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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2011
- A documentary by Rishi Jindal exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. The film, made in the early 1990's, offers a rare glimpse into the often contradictory and confused view put forth by Shamar Rinpoche regarding the legitamacy of His Holiness Ogyen Trinley Dorje, the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa.
mis hermanos en el Dharma..., sois las valiosas joyas que voy encontrando..., en el sendero del camino..., hacia el abandono del sufrimiento de samsara..., y por el beneficio de tod@s l@s seres del ciclo de existencias..., podamos tod@s alcanzar la iluminacion.
Praise both of em
What d fuck the Chinese govt. has to do in between and as for shamar they don't get it, why they are not conceding to the official one that is recognized by H.H Dalai Lama? Is it only because of Money and posts for sham mars?
Indeed, no matter what the truth is in all this, what Situ Rinpoche says here seems to be wrong. In fact, previous Karmapas had do deal with a wrong Karmapa being supported by the Dalai Lama. His recognition is not needed in Kagyu and Nyingma lineages, and might even create obstacles. If he agrees with correct recognitions, that is of course very nice. But no more than that.
To Spaceand Joy......Frankly I think it is making the religion look like a Joke. One way or another you are going to have Buddhist monks and supporters whom are not going to be happy, regardless of which one they support, and it will creative division in the faith. Even if it is just a little. And keep in mind it is not the first time that Lamas or Rinpoche, or Karmapa's and any other reincarnated holy people of this religion get reincarnated into multiple bodies. By splitting an essence of their soul in those multiple bodies. It is rare but it has happened. According to the religion.
Also keep in mind even in Christianity there is the belief that their will be a real messiah and a false messiah that is to come. Jesus, and the Anti Christ. And we are suposoto be able to distinguish the true messiah. It seems this is the case lately for many religions.
what situ rinpoche is saying is not really true because we reincarnation of the different lineages are found by the their own lineage master, not nessecarily HIs holiness, if this is the case is Situ rinpoche yourself alsp approved by His Holiness the dalai lama no right???????
Are Karmapas allowed to marry? How many Karmapas got married?
Traditions had to be changed acc. to changing world for god's sake, thus His Holiness Dalai Lama is so right about unifying Buddhism!! Long live his holiness __/"\__
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The one chosed by H Holiness The Dalai Lama is real one because the Chosed one knew one of their student Jamgun rinpoche gonna be reincarnate and saw in dreams about the location of reincarnation and approved it.
If the Shamar rinpoche chosen was real then why didnt he got any dreams about Jamgun rinpoche one of the 16th Karmapa student.
if you believed in reincarnation,who re- incarnate He must proved by himself.there is no necessary to approved by any other people,
Nepali Nepali... Well they do have test in the Buddhist religion. Most of it is artifacts and necklaces that the Buddhist person in the prior life had. If pick those items among many other items, than that is considered an indicator to them. As well as other supposable tests they preform too.
we want to 17th Gyalwa Karmapa real one plz plz plz all Karma Kagyu Rinpoches are some thing do that.
I just send pema wangchuk to "THE KARMAPA'S PROHECIES" from sylvia wong! If after this reading you still have the same judgment............... nothing to say.
U will all learn the hard way...u better ask yourselves who is reincarnation pf padmasambhava ? Karmapa is not and will not ever b the little buddha
Matter of money
Bring both Karmapa together and let them debate publicly. One who is true has qualities of Buddha. Impostor lacks in knowledge.
dtseringdorje... I agree. I think it should be televised this debate, or if not televised for religious reasons, then brought out live among a crowed of thousands and thousands of people.. Particularly of the Buddhist religion. The Dali Lama should be present for it. Cause he is still one of the most senior lamas of the faith.
And as for , " Knowledge" What happens if one Karmapa gets all the attention and all accesses to the knowledge. But the other doesn't cause he was not recognized by the Dali Lama, and there fore can not educate himself to spark that remembering of that specific knowledge? Even if he maybe the real lama? Lets face it, there has been a heck of a lot more recognition of one of the Karmapa's from the Dali lama then other one, and he is younger too. Frankly there is a underlining situation that he is a Chinese spy that was let lose on Buddhism to try to control the religion. Or gain intel. And he he did have Chinese friends.
And then there is the other issue. Because it comes down to theology. What if because they are frankly two different denominations of Buddhism at play here. What is the real path of Buddha? Why so many different schools of thought. And not one school of thought? That's problem!
@@Cat-ql7jm You need your own awakening to become Buddha. Anything beyond that is none of your business.
Maybe one Karmapa is not enough and the world would need hundreds ore more of them. (little joke, sorry)
To follow past tradition based in the Golden urn selection and advice of the high lamas, it is the prerogative of the Chinese President like his predecessor Emperors of the past to authorize and give his approval for twin reincarnations for Living Buddhas in China Tibet from now on to end this sort of controversy.
Long live his holiness 14th the great Dalai Lama 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🌞🌞🌞🌙🌙🌙☀️☀️☀️🌈🌈🌈👏👏👏
No karma pa lol
Sharmar u r gone but u creat Lott problem
hellow, think before you write any thing about great master The Sharmapa
+Pema Lhamo rightly said . One must think before saying such words its a shameless thing .
shamar lama by by
Everything coming out of Sharmapa's mouth is just plain not true. I was there. He is not telling the truth! Why? He wants power, obviously. What a shame and disgrace! To slander his childhood friends, to break the strength of the Karma Kargyu, to defame it so. It breaks my heart.
I don't choose any side but if you go back to history of TIBEt, there always been 4 major religion and shamar rinpoche is one of major lama of karma kagyu sect. And he is right about them choosing their own reincarnation of Karmapa. Talking about power, it goes both ways and there seem to be interference from Gyalug sect in choosing reincarnation whether it is in case of karmapa or Thulshik Rinpoche from Nyigma sect. In a way what I personally think H.H. Dalai lama himself being top guru and well known personality from Gyalug sect is trying to unionized all 4 sect of darmas in Tibetan Buddhism by having his own choices of reincarnated guru from other three sect. In a way, I think it is a good initiative to have common practice and prevail peace within all sect of darmas. However the problem here is that each sect of darmas has its own core values and ways of performing puja so the followers of each sect are not ready to accept one particular sect of darmas. Just my thought