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H.E. Tai Situ Rinpoche on first meeting His Holiness Orgyen Thrinley Dorje in Tibet.avi
Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. This clip describes the powerful experience that His Eminence Tai Situ Rinpoche, as well as that of a western dharma student, in meeting the young 17th Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley Dorje in Tibet.
Karmapa Chenno!
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Bhod Tulku on Shamar's tenure at Rumtek.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. This clip describes the way Rumtek Monastery was run during Shamar's 12 year tenure. Karmapa Chenno!
Shamar and the difficulty with pure view.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. This clip shows the reasoning behind Shamar's beliefs, as well as a clear refutation of his position by the late Ani Dechen Zangmo. Karmapa Chenno!
Shamar on the Karmapa as an ordinary being not a buddha.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar describing how the Karmapa is just an ordinary being and that people make him out to be a deity. The late Ani Dechen Zangmo and the late Lama Gyaltsen help correct this view showing just how vital the tsaway lama, Karmapa, is for any Kagyu pra...
Shamar on the possibility of 2 or 3 Karmapas.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. Here Shamar makes the strange assertion that there may be two or three Karmapas. Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche and the late ven. Lama Gyaltsen, attendant to the previous Kyabje Kalu Rinpoche, and father of the present Kalu Rinpoche explain why this is impossible. Karmapa Chenno!
Shamar on his letter to His Holiness Dalai Lama.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. This clip shows a very over confident Shamar desribing a letter that he wrote to His Holiness the Dalai Lama, as well as an analysis of Shamar's behavior. Karmapa Chenno!
Shamar on the role of the Dalai Lama in the Karmapa's recognition.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar describing that the confirmation of His Holiness the Dalai Lama regarding the prediction letter left by the late 16th Karmapa was unnecessary and without historical precedent. His Eminence Tai Situ Rinpoche clearly demonstrates the relationshi...
Shamar claims that major kagyu lamas support him.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar boasting that the majority of Kagyu lamas support him, however an interview with a previous chief-minister of Sikkim, N.B. Bandhari, and with a Tibetan layperson suggest otherwise. Karmapa Chenno!
Shamar on validity and proof of prediction letter.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar boasting that only he can know who is the genuine Karmapa and that there is, somewhere a letter that validates his concern. A member of the Joint Action Committee explains that Shamar has never satisfied the people's demand for proof. Karmapa ...
Shamar on the role of His Holiness Dalai Lama.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar asserting that His Holiness Dalai Lama may have made a mistake and that the Dalai Lamas have no business in the affairs of the Kagyu. The late ven. Lama Gyaltsen shows how he is wrong. Karmapa Chenno!
Shamar claims that the Joint Action Committee is illegal.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. This clip exposes Shamar's approach to the wishes of the Sikkimese people reagrding His Holiness the 17th Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley Dorje. It includes a rare portion of footage of His Holiness the Dalai Lama in which he describes his vision regarding the birth of His Holiness t...
Shamar on the ownership of Rumtek properties and China.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar describing his skepicism that His Holiness Orgyen Trinley Dorje would ever end up in Sikkim taking ownership of Rumtek. A supporter of Shamar suggests that as Shamar is the nephew of the 16th Karmapa perhaps he should be regarded as the owner ...
Shamar on the four regents.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar claiming that the four regents never created a cycle of regency to lead Rumtek Monastery; that there was no history of such a regency. Thankfully, there is a dharma student who can help provide a description of what really transpired. Karmapa Chenno!
Shamar on Prediction Letter.avi
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Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar declaring that the predition letter must be a forgery following a clear refutation of Shamar's views and visions by His Eminece Goshir Gyaltsab Rinpoche. Karmapa Chenno!
Karmapa Controversy part4.avi
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A documentary by Rishi Jindal exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the 16th Karmapa. The film, made in the early 1990's, offers a rare glimpse into the often contradictory and confused view put forth by Shamar Rinpoche regarding the legitamacy of His Holiness Ogyen Trinley Dorje, the 17th Gyalwa Karmapa.
1) Guys read Terchen Chokgyur Lingpa's Prediction - 1st KARMAPA to 21st KARMAPA in details. 2) Guys read well 1st to 16th KARMAPA #BIOGRAPHY carefully, who recognised, who Enthroned KARMAPA, before passed away letter gived to whom. 3) Guys read - Prophecy of 5th KARMAPA about 17th KARMAPA. 4) 8th KARMAPA - Mikyö Dorje was born in Satam, Kham. According to the legend, he said after being born: "I am Karmapa." and was recognized by "#Tai #Situpa" 10th KARMAPA -  Chöying Dorje was born in the kingdom of Golok, Amdo. At the age of eight, he was recognized by #Shamar Mipam Chökyi Wangchuk, the sixth "Shamarpa." 13th KARMAPA - Dudul Dorje was born in Champa Drongsar and recognized by "#Gyaltsab #Rinpoche" at the age of four. 14th KARMAPA - Thekchok Dorje was born in Danang, Kham and was #recognized because "#Drukchen Kunzig Chokyi Nangwa" received a #letter from Dudul Dorje, the thirteenth Karmapa, detailing where his next reincarnation would be born. He was ordained at the age of nineteen as a monk. 16th KARMAPA - The 16th Karmapa was born in Denkhok in the Dergé province in Eastern Tibet, Kham, near the Dri Chu or Yangtze River. The previous Karmapa Khakhyab Dorje (1871-1922) left a letter setting forth the circumstances of his next incarnation. The Karmapa's attendant, Jampal Tsultrim, possessed the letter of #prediction, which matched exactly with the proceeding the "11th #Tai #Situpa " was already undertaking to find the 16th Karmapa Rangjung Rigpe Dorje.
Tai situ rinpoche you are totally wrong that you said that Dalai lama is the head of all the four sects of tibetan buddhism that is totally wrong. Dalai lama is the head of Gelugpa only. he were just king of Tibet. For that reason all sects of tibetan Buddhist respect him. Otherwise KARMAPA , GYALVA DRIKUNGPA , GYALWANG DRUKPA, DALAI LAMA all are reincarnation of same Buddha . That is AVALOKITESHVARA The Compassion Buddha.
His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader of the four major sects in Tibetan buddhism and is associated with gelug. Speaking strictly, the head of gelug is the ganden tripa.
8:59 "People with very little learning and lesser wisdom often have more confidence than the those who are learned and realized." Thus, this idiot in spectacles, who is not even a lay monk, talks as if he would know who is the true one
Which is real Karmapa I’m so confused would you please tell us a bit. Thank you
Both are the real karmapas'.....long live his holiness Orgyen Trinley Dorje la and Trinley Thaye Dorje la❤️💐🙇🏻♀️ #Karmapachenno
It is not unprecedented though. In fact pre-1959, due to their absolute power in Tibet, the Dalai Lamas always put the official seal on tulku lamas, including that of 14th Zhamarpa! In addition, it was not the 14th Dalai Lama who decided the 17th Karmapa, it was the handwritten letter by the 16th Karmapa himself that he gave to Tai Situ Rinpoche before he passed away, together with all three Karma Kagyu heart sons and the vast majority of Karma Kagyu inside and outside Tibet that decided Ogyen Trinley Dorje is the official 17th Karmapa.
Are you sure that letter was authentic?
@@kanatsizkanatli of course it is authentic. Such a high lama like tTai Situ Rinpoche would never forge and lie about such an important and sacred letter! All the other senior Karma Kagyu teachers agreed it was by the 16th Karmapa. In fact, anyone who suggests that needs their head and perception examining. That is just rude and offensive.
Are Karmapas allowed to marry? How many Karmapas got married?
I remember this, "under the sign of a cow" this confused the experts but even a chillum worshipper could figure this one out. There were traditional picturial map of Tibet with all the ethic groups drawn in regional costumes it was so common it was sold as a postcard. Well there is a couple with a cow south central Tibet and under this cow the 17th Kamapa was born. He later escaped to India. I think I saw him when he was 19 debating with other monks behind a wire fence Macleod Ganj and I hear from him 'nothing for me in this time', well that wasn't news to me; the first Kamapa had been a comtempory of Rechangpa. Millarepa still walks the earth.
Useless go to hell
Long live his holiness 14th the great Dalai Lama 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🌞🌞🌞🌙🌙🌙☀️☀️☀️🌈🌈🌈👏👏👏
Long live his holiness 14th the great Dalai Lama 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🌞🌞🌞🌙🌙🌙☀️☀️☀️🌈🌈🌈👏👏👏
Matter of money
Long Live His Holiness The Dalai Lama.
Chap so cha Rinpoche 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹
what about if both r not real.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
༧ཏཱའི་སི་ཏུ་མཁྱེན་ནོ།
My question is to all great rinpoche how many karma pa will be there after this 17th reincarnation.
Summary 21 Incarnations of Gyalwang Karmapa
@@FlussdesLebens1 but rt now there are two of them ,so many left?
Thrangu Rinpoche said that there were never 2 or 3 Karmapas. Karmapa is so unique und special that the World only needs one genuine Karmapa.
@@FlussdesLebens1 so which one is the right one
There are various opinions on that topic. Each has a side. Some say both are legetime. Some are fighting. In terms of genuine Karmapa I believe that the time will show who is the real one. Maybe a complete stranger. It is all about realization, realizing the nature of buddha mind and even supernatural power. If one of the candidates would have realized it all would know. But this is not the case. So there is the possibility that no one of both is the real Karmapa. This is my honest opinion
Maybe one Karmapa is not enough and the world would need hundreds ore more of them. (little joke, sorry)
Shamar Rinpoche speaks logically and believably. Very intelligent. Tai Situ does not give an impression of trustworthiness. Trunks full of Yuan, neatly stacked and organized have been found in monasteries under his control.
In this false film they state there has never before been 2 Kamapas this is false , I might also add that Kamapa &Shamapa are the 2 highest Lamas of the Karma Kagyu
Shamapa has always recognised the reincarnations of Kamapa , the Dali Lama has never previously done this he was duped
The one chosed by H Holiness The Dalai Lama is real one because the Chosed one knew one of their student Jamgun rinpoche gonna be reincarnate and saw in dreams about the location of reincarnation and approved it. If the Shamar rinpoche chosen was real then why didnt he got any dreams about Jamgun rinpoche one of the 16th Karmapa student.
I think shamar Rinpoche is in pobebly in hell 😭. OM MANI PADMI HU 🙏
I believe Ogyen Trinley Dorje is the real reincarted Karmapa...just look at the striking physical resemblance and identical mannerisms ...He looks exactly like the 16th Karmapa ..I am not a Buddhist but when i see the 17th Karmapa, i feel convinced that reincarnation is a real phenomena
Long life to Tenzin Gyatso 14th
So unfortunate what shamar rinpoche has planted, though it is much clear now in 2022 about who is who. I pray for him to work for the benefit of all sentient beings again, for the karma he has committed is very unfortunate. May the great lotus born master grant you insight 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
We believe only one .. Real karmapa...that is Dalai lama say
This guy's hubris is astonishing.
Now I feel Being Nyingma is more peaceful 😂 don’t have to fight what others are fighting for.
He is laying to say about Shamar Rinpoche.he is very bad Monk
I have great devotion for H.H.Dalai Lama, all those mischieves were created by those egoistic followers. Recognition of karmapa doesn't need permission and confirmation from h.h.dalai Lama. As to show respect for each other and to ease off the barrier between different schools of tibetan Buddhism and to promote ཆོས་ལུགས་རིས་མེད , they do go to meet with high lamas of diff schools, receive teachings and vajrayana empowerments. Dirty politics isn't making it anywhere, we could clearly see it. I am not a sadist to upon other's sufferings but it's time they reflect on themselves and their karma.
Situ Rinpoche said true
Łap się za różaniec ojciec.
The guy at 12:00 speaks about taking the Dali Lama to court... I wonder what type of court they have in Buddhism or Tibet? How would the Court in Tibet recognizes the laws of Buddhist religious declarations of lamas? I don't know much about the Tibetan country. But I think there is some separation between religion and the law of the country.
mis hermanos en el Dharma..., sois las valiosas joyas que voy encontrando..., en el sendero del camino..., hacia el abandono del sufrimiento de samsara..., y por el beneficio de tod@s l@s seres del ciclo de existencias..., podamos tod@s alcanzar la iluminacion.
mis hermanos en el Dharma..., sois las valiosas joyas que voy encontrando..., en el sendero del camino..., hacia el abandono del sufrimiento de samsara..., y por el beneficio de tod@s l@s seres del ciclo de existencias..., podamos tod@s alcanzar la iluminacion.
mis hermanos en el Dharma..., sois las valiosas joyas que voy encontrando..., en el sendero del camino..., hacia el abandono del sufrimiento de samsara..., y por el beneficio de tod@s l@s seres del ciclo de existencias..., podamos tod@s alcanzar la iluminacion.
Thanks for exposing disgraced shamar
shamar n charlatan thaye has reunited as a Himalayan cult with the sex maniac leader teaching the sacred secret tantric arts to privileged followers
Bhandari is just an fucking ass hole he doesn't know how to respect rimpoche
Zharmar Rimpoche ‘s point of view looks more political of issue than proving with facts. Particularly when he said “ Karma of Tsurphu can’t own land and can not change his citizen.I believe Karmapa doesn’t necessarily have to be Indian. Can reincarnate form any part of the world I guess.
shamar is disgrace to buddhism
When money, power and religion is mixed together, it will definitely produce human challenged!
JJ... Until we live in a world where there is no need for money. Unfortunately we will always be somewhat dependent on it. Until people learn to share, be kind and make things more free.
shamar is serious tibetan artifact businesmann
( MOTIVATION ) Motivation gone wrong everything goes wrong.... Spiritual and politic is completely two different thing you cannot mix together. The result of all this is now in front of you.
Very confused 😰
Dear Nawang Dolma. It's Buddhism! What else do you expect? The same religion that worship statues that look like demons. Interesting they also ware red too! isn't that the Devil's favorite colour? Point is Christianity's the only real religion. Hinduism and Buddhism is basically the scrap religions left over from ancient Babylon. You will see soon there will be only three religions left. Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, and your going to have to pick the right one! Its all apart of God's plan. The fake to the intelligent well be exposed. And the real will be brought forward !
The Karmapa fued from what I've seen, started well before either karmapa were born. I have received teachings, initiation and empowerments from the16th Karmapa and all 4 regents. I was there at KTD when Shamar showed up with his sister Chimay and other family members. It, the fued, had already started. May have started when HH Karmapa's heart relic came out on Situ Rinpoche' s side. Karmapa cheno. I like both candidates.
Shamar Rinpoche alone is the Brutus among the horde of conspirators. He was the only one who sided with the white Karmapa with pure intentions, while others have all the selfish reasons. Unfortunately he is fed with all the wrong information by Cassiuses and Cascas. Sharmar Rinpoche is worthy of respect from both the parties🙏🙏🙏🙏.
Sharma is the power crazy n greedy one. He invented thaye n started the schism within karma kagyu, leading to the Sikkim riots. Karma is great...he is now gone but a fake one has been installed on earth. Full of politics n deciet
@@leongsam5197 Please read play clled "Julius Ceasar" by Shakespeare
@@factspoken9062 get urself a proper education first
@@leongsam5197 I have MA in English and PhD in Tibetan Buddhism and Himalayn studies. So I am not speaking out of ignorance.
@@factspoken9062 wow, then u should get ur ego check.
Some say Tai Situ forged the letter etc. Wow! He must be a professional forger! Good job requires qualifications of a master in profession of forgeries.