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House of the Dragon - Reaction - S1E8 - The Lord of the Tides
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The Aegon he is talking about is neither his son nor his grandson, it's Aegon the Conqueror who is the one who had the dream and prophecy. He indeed thought he was talking to Rhaenyra, reassuring her of his decision
yes!! I thought so! Poor guy - Morgan
@@TheReactPack And Rhaenyra's kid is named Viserys as the king, not Aegon as Alicent's son.
@Table Salt Oh, my bad then.
@Table Salt Yeah Aegon III and Viserys II
@@rangiku860 yep but youre still a little right its not after her brother but the conqueror. from what i read well jus the starks and targaryens they have like certain names that are supposed to be like king names. i think with the starks their king name is brandon
I don’t know if you guys noticed, but Aemond got mad and made that toast because the cooks had placed a roasted pig in front of him and Lucerys chuckled at him in reference to the whole “Pink Dread” prank they played on him as children.
They are such dickheads that they still laugh at aemond after they blind his eye
In the books it is even implied that it was done on purpose by Lucerys so Aaemond reaction is not totally unjustified
@@rahilrameez8635 yeah, if I was them and saw how badass Aemond is now I wouldn't have done that lol. Might have even pushed him to what he does in the finale
Doesn't matter... They still cheering about Aemond getting jumped by 4 other kids
@@jmoa5758 forget how he tried to kill one with a rock?
“I don't give a shit about tourneys. Nephews, have you come to train? Final tribute. To the health of my nephews: Jace, Luke, and Joffrey. Each of them handsome, wise... strong. Come! Let us drain our cups to these three Strong boys!” -Aemond Targaryen. Aemond has some of the most wicked lines. Since can appreciate a good antagonist, certainty hope you can appreciate Aemond. His one my favorite characters in ASOIAF.
The Hand of the King is permitted to sit on the iron throne when the king is unable to. The hand becomes acting king in their stead. Remember Ned Stark sat on the iron throne in season 1 and held court while Robert Baratheon was out hunting.
I love me a non-binary King.
The make up for Viserys progressing illness was amazing, but Paddy Considine really acted the hell out of that scene...I got chills.
Facts, Paddy Considine’s performance was amazing
Best single episode performance in the GoT franchise for me. Just absolutely stellar
Aemond took a big punch to the face and shoved someone to the ground with one hand without spilling a drop of wine
Yeah he’s for sure gonna be a problem him sparring with Cole too he’s nice and the biggest dragon I like him reminds me of Daemon
boss
15:29 Come on guys. Alicent gave her a bag of money to go away.
18:36 Why on earth would she kill her own Dad? He's the only reason she's still heir.
20:32 I have no idea why people think it's a big deal for Otto to sit on the Throne. Ned Stark did the same thing when he was Hand of the King in GoT season 1.
The woman on the left doesn't know what she is talking about half the time.
@@jasonsumner3386 lmaoooooo I swearrrr she checks off a few stereotypes
@@jasonsumner3386bro she annoys tf out of me, she is so close minded when it comes to supporting the blacks. Thr other two are more reasonable black supporters
@@apomtaylor8054 team green
Bro it’s been 8 episodes and y’all still not over the incest lol its literally what this family is known for
@@thegoldentake7675 true. But to pretend to be shocked EVERY TIME it’s brought up is dumb. Goof
@@nukiesduke6868 ????????
@@thegoldentake7675 I mean tbf, Targaryens are literally built different. The Dragon blood is implied to draw them to one another, and Valyrians were intermarrying close family for centuries even before the doom. Probably something to do with the blood mages, but who knows?
So I’m not the only one who finds that part of their reaction annoying. It’s already been 8 episode, it’s fine if they find it disgusting but being shocked by it in each episode is frustrating. It’s not like incest isn’t the part of our own history in royal families.
11:25, 22:34 I think they named 1 of their kids Aegon not as an insult but instead because of Aegon the Conquerer being such a figure important to them and their history. There have been quite a few Aegons over the years.
Well...books say it was a combination of that they didn't want Alicent to have the only Aegon, AND it was an insult at her for audaciously naming her own son "Aegon" in the first place
Also, Daemon’s mother had a boy Aegon that lived for a year but she died from childbed fever. Daemon was 3, and Viserys was 7. So he names his sons after both of his brothers.
Yeah, France had like 18 kings Louis for example
Otto sits on the throne because he speaks for / acts as the King in the petitions while Viserys is uncapable to. He cannot do that if the King is present though, not at all.
Ned Stark also sat on the throne when Robert wasn't there
she's not poisoning the maid girl, its the same tea the maesters brought rhaenyra after her night of fooling around, the medieval plan b
Yeah 😂😂
Margerys mom was a Hightower, her dad a Tyrell. So papa Tyrell married a Hightower. So Margery is related to Hightowers but yeah she is a Tyrell. Hightowers are still around in GOT, they are Lords of Oldtown, which we see in season 6 when Sam and Gilly go to Oldtown to join the Maesters guild, which is located in Oldtown.
yeah and they're quite literally still going "strong", compared to the Velaryons and Targaryens they are still one of the richest and most influential houses in Westeros.
Margaery's mom is still alive!
If you watch closely to Daemon & Aemond's reactions to each other scenes, there's a mutual respect there. Also Aemond's name is just Daemon's name with the D moved from the front to the back. They are mirrors of each other: second sons, rogue princes, black and green.
Aemond is both Daemon’s prime rival and foil in so many ways. And a very worth one at that in my opinion. I can’t wait for more reactions from him. So far he seems to bring out very passionate ones😅.
It depends on how they end up portraying him, he can either be a darker version of Daemon (for all his flaws, Daemon is actually very savvy and cool most of the time unlike Aemond who loses control often), or a wannabe Daemon (this is the impression he gives in the books but not the show so far) if they decide to go down that route instead.
@@Arctic_Stark He will be a combination of both. But never viewed him as a wannabe
@@tajaemartin2251 OK and your point is what exactly
@@Arctic_Stark Daemon I would say overall is more evil than Aemond currently, as he kills civilians to make a point, kills his wife, harasses his current wife, grooms the princess and beats up any unfortunate person in the vicinity when angry.
Aemond's deeds currently, revolves around prior hatred established from the confrontation that lost him the eye and even Luke's death was more by accident. Aemond also currently is very loyal to his family. So most likely if he changes it will be war related changes in the upcoming conflict.
@@Arctic_Stark Daemon savy and cool? Doesn’t lose his cool?? Your bias is showing 😂😂
Vaemond is a liar: the standard inheritance law in Westeros is male-preference primogeniture...which is still "primogeniture". The books explicitly say that a lord's daughter inherits ahead of his younger brother -- thus Laena was always ahead of Vaemond in line of succession. IN TURN, Laena's daughters inherit before her own uncle. By all rights, even IF Rhaenyra's sons are bastards, then BAELA is the heir to Driftmark, and she knows it. "Primogeniture" means inheritance goes until a lord's entire bloodline is extinguished, even through granddaughters. Rhaenys of course got pushed aside because the Great Council voted "uh...royal inheritance should be different!"
baela is not pressing her claim is she? she is forfitting it.
if she isnt gonna fight for her claim, vaemonds not gonna fight for it either
vaemonds gota fight for himself and his blood.
Margaery's mother is Alerie Hightower, so she is related to the Hightowers.
We've pointed this out in the comments more than once, not just me but others, I wonder if they read this or record them in advance
@@thedragondemands5186 Looks like they only read the ones from patreons because this is released 3 weeks in advance there
@@yero1990 blah!
@@yero1990shame because they're so lost all the the time they went back in forth from poison to plan b like 5 times when the context clues clearly meant abortion
Paddy Considine essentially playing a number of different 'versions' of Viserys with the disease progression in one season, he really nailed the role.
7:52 Laenor named his "son" Joffrey after his lover Joffrey Lonmouth, who was brutally killed by Ser Criston Cole in E05.
Viserys, THE GOAT! It was a crime that Paddy was not nominated for awards for his performance, it just goes to show how political the industry is, totally sad...he deserved it.
The Emmy nominations haven’t even been announced yet. Calm down.
@@alexissimpson5819 But he already had awards where he should have been nominated and he wasn't... I hope he doesn't get snubbed again.
@@rogerluiz2479 That was literally in one award, pipe down and stop whining
Milk of the poppy… poppyseed…. Opiate.. Cmon guys put 2 and 2 together. It’s like morphine.
Apparently the scene where he dropped his crown and was picked up by his brother and helped up the stairs was improvised and wasn't scripted.
It is true Viserys, thought he was talking to Rhaeynera. He only confided the prophesy of the song of ice and fire to her early in the season as it is only passed down to the targaryn rulers. If you recall the prophesy told of a great evil threat that would descend from the north and threaten the realm. A Targaryn named Aegon would be the one who would unite the realm to fend of the great threat in the north...the prophesy of course would come true about 125 years later... (as best as i can recall)
Never forget the Alicent and Viserys have another son (with a dragon) that was like never mentioned
he's coming in Season 2
@@thedragondemands5186 he was supposed to be present at the dinner though
@@ProHero86 No, he's living in Oldtown on the other side of the continent
in the opening bloodline he is there but you are right in the show at least once his name should mentioned
@@thedragondemands5186 he didn’t leave for Old Town until after the dinner
Tywin Lannister and Ned Stark also sat on the thron when they were Hand of the King
Daemon seemed amused at aemond, like he got a new toy to play with. Daemon is not a good person but my god he is so charismatic
Just to confuse you even more, there's now 3 people called Aegon.
There's Aegon the Conqueror, who had the dream about the White Walkers and passed down the tale through the line of Kings to Viserys (His great, great grandson.)
Then there's Alicent and Viserys' eldest son. (Aegon the Elder,) and Rhaenyra's 4th son (who is also) Daemon's 1st (Aegon the Younger.)
Don't be too hard on yourself for making mistakes about how everyone is related to one another.
The Targaryen family tree is incredibly messy.
In the entire tree, there are 13 Aegons
( If you haven’t finished Game of Thrones, don’t read this)Aegon is a really common name to the Targaryen‘s, because everybody wanted their son to be the conqueror and the prince that was promised, but if you finish Game of Thrones, you find out in the later seasons, that John Snow‘s real name is Aegon Targaryen, because he is the Prince that was promised to fight against the darkness ( knight king)
Aemond the goat is here
the what? lol
@@aleksandrakorycka2716 THE GOAT
@@peters4115 in alternate universe maybe
@@aleksandrakorycka2716 everybody loves an underdog as they say
@@peters4115 he is no underdog, neither is he goat
It makes no sense to poison the king. If he dies, Rhaenyra gets the throne. As long as he's alive, Otto as hand gets to rule in his name.
They are giving him milk of the poppy to keep him sedated.
Why do you guys still think Aemond “stole” Vhagar? There’s only one way to claim a dragon and it isn’t by parentage 😬
Most of the dragons you see weren’t inherited by direct offspring.. Caraxes, Meleys, and although unseen, Balerion all passed down to different relatives because they claimed them not because their parents were previous riders
They already discussed aegon marrying helaena in the last episode remember the targaryens have married outside of their house through generations just for alliance but also still keep the tradition of marrying cousins or siblings within the family so they can keep their Valeryan blood pure and their dragons , also alicent didn’t kill dyana she felt bad and she knew that in those times women don’t get justice so the best thing she could do was fire her while compensating to make sure shes not pregnant by the prince other wise it’s death for her ugh she deserved better 😢💔 you can see the difference of motherhood with alicent and rhaenrya for instance rhaenrya had her boys later in life through love and trust which is why she’s so loving with them also her children in order is : Jace , Luke , Joffrey, aegon , visery’s and another one on the way. Alicent who was a child bride to visery’s that was forced to have her children through duty and young age didn’t know how to be a mother but that doesn’t mean she does not love them any less even though aegon keeps doing disgusting things and she has no choice but cover up for him even though his behavior is no excuse which is why alicent hugs on her daughter since she felt bad in that scene cause she had to marry her crazy ass brother which she has children with too , alicent’s children in order is : Aegon , helaena , Aemond and apparently alicent and visery’s actually have 4 children together which they never showed through out the show and his name is daeron who’s the 4th child , also helaena is a sweet heart and she’s the only one who doesn’t really wear green like the rest of her family does , yes alicent has been driven duty her whole life so of course she gets the misunderstanding with visery’s about the prophecy that’s only secretly shared with targaryens and will now push for her son aegon to be king! And Rest In Peace visery’s even though I kinda blame for some things but he was a decent king tho, he could’ve done things better otherwise this family drama shit wouldn’t really be happening but I also blame otto too.🤦🏾♀️😭💀😬
Rhaenyra has not not visited Viserys for 6 years who's on his deathbed but has the Audacity to demand him and belittle him for the problems which is 100% her fault , talk about being spoilt lol .
I thought you said the show was trying to portray her as a saint?????
@@alexissimpson5819 😂they can’t make up their mind clouded by team salty and bitter🤣
@@alexissimpson5819 He acts like an incel
Dude just in another comment you said Rhaenyra is portrayed as a saint? You sure have severe confusion about this character 😂
@@alexissimpson5819 Because the show *does not* portray that as a negative even though it is... like y'all really think them saying this and their saint comment contradict each other but it doesn't... let's think a little
Rhaenyra always trying to reach out and apologize after she already gotten what she wants from her dad ...if I was Alicent I'd be fuming😂😂😂
At least she did that and not be a hypocrite like Alicent to hold people to her standards. Alicent has no right to be fuming just because her father is a piece of shit. Jealousy does not give you the right to act self righteous.
I am so mad, Rhaenyra herself left the capital and for all these years neither she nor Daemon even thought of visiting the sick aging Viserys. Did they realize that Viserys would be left alone with the Hightowers and they would rule? This is as obvious as the origin of the "strong" boys. And when it smelled fried and the inheritance of the child began to float away through their fingers, the relatives suddenly suddenly remembered the king and hurried to the capital where, oh, surprisingly, someone was engaged in politics all this time. Alicent is not Mother Teresa, nevertheless she took care of Viserys. Even on the last night of his life, she was by his side. The old man didn't have half of his face! He was just a walking corpse. It's amazing that he somehow managed to survive all these years on poppy milk. Without him, he would have given his soul to the seven much earlier from the pain shock..
In F&B, she and Daemon are exiled after they marry. The show brushed over that.
They knew the Hightower's would rule. They had no power to stop that unless they wanted to go to war.
viserys is a well written and acted instance of a horrible father and king, who deceives himself that he is well meaning, but really isn't. he is well meaning only to his daughter, to others, including his children by alicent, alicent herself, and his subjects, he is opposite of well meaning . he is a horrible father, husband and king. foreseeable consequences of his actions prove that clearly.
@@alexissimpson5819 That never was mentioned in the book. Stop making stories, clown
She left the capital because she could not handle the politics. That's a political weakness they showed in the book too.
Aemond did not take her dragon
It is easy to remember the second son of Alicent’s name, it is Daemon with the D in back and it is pronounced the same.
Viserys was continuing his conversation where Rhaenyra asked if he believed Aegon the Conqueror’s dream. This is obviously not a conversation he had with Alicent. He also didn’t mention naming Aegon as heir.
Rhaenys had no choice one Viserys walked into the chamber. What was she going to do? Challenge the king’s authority? She had to side with Rhaenyra.
20:33 In the absence of th King, the Hand rules, hence why Otto is sitting on the Iron Throne. When King Robert was sick, as his Hand, Ned ruled, and sat the Iron Throne. Only the King and the Hand are allowed to sit on it.
Bruh ... Otto as hand has authority over the queen (while the king is still alive). How do you not know that? 🤦♀️😆
Alicent was serving as regent though, so they'd be co-equal, or arguably Alicent could dismiss Otto.
Regents have dismissed Hands in the past.
@@s1lm4r1l6 The Queen Regent is someone who has temporary authority while an heir awaits his coming of age. As the line of succession is to pass directly from Viserys to Rhaynera, Alicent should hold no such powers. She's merely the second wife and mother to a boy who is not the declared heir.
Daemon is the best character in the show
Vaemond was right, it would suck to see someone with no actual relation to you or your family stealing your family home and titles.
Exactly I don't see why people don't understand that
@@grifcheese1076 especially knowing that Luke is a bastard. Of course Vaemond was angry
Because Lord Coryls agreed to the arrangement. He knew his son was gay and that it was possible that he may not father legitimate children. That doesn’t matter to him though - he just cares about their name living on (as he discusses with his wife at some point during the season - “history doesn’t remember blood. it remembers names.”) Vaemond is just a butthurt second son who wanted to make a name for himself but made a poor/impulsive decision (for which he paid with his life). Acting the way he did, in the setting he was in, was, to put it plainly, stupid.
@@beingandtime it's stupid. Jace is going to change his name to Targaryen anyway and the entire concept of the legitimacy of these feudal Houses requires a blood connection. Moreover, rumours about Rhaenyra's kids parentage were known and written in history books. Vaemond was totally right, Corlys ignored his house desires and that's why his nephews ( I guess Vaemond's sons in the show) will side with the greens.
@@yasmina3999:
No one is going to know for sure what the exact blood relations were in a couple of centuries or how "legitimate" people really are by blood. Take Daenerys, for example, who is only ~2% Targaryen.
Rumors will forever be rumors, even if they might be true; there are plenty of accounts by Mushroom in _Fire & Blood_ detailing various rumors, but only a small handful are likely to be true.
Corlys did not "ignore his house desires"; Corlys is literally the head of House Velaryon, what Corlys desires is what his house desires.
all these characters are so morally grey, especially Daemon, like you want to love or hate these people completely but each one of them has a good and bad quality too themselves and in this series especially so far, we get to see how the villains become villains, and unlike in game of thrones the reasons that we get shown on screen are somewhat very legitimate reasons for why someone turned bad or evil. for Aemond it was bullying, for Aegon it was neglect and abandonment and so many other things the parents could have done better on, it makes you sorta sympathize with them and for me makes me really wish they could have had that extra love or extra attention, bc they for sure would have turned out better, if it wasn't for their parents and their other adult figures they looked up to
i love Alicent, Aemond and Helaena completely so i promise it can be done
@@soniaiboyako4023 I ain’t much of a team green but I’m definitely a team Alicent Helaena and Aemond
Besides the King the only one alaud to sit on the Iron Throne was the hand of the king, on GOT we saw Ned Stark sitting there when Robert was on his hunt.
indeed as well as Tywin Lannister
The tea that Alicent gave Dyana was Moon tea. It is a “Plan B” but the tea only works if it’s brewed right. If not, you can die from it. So yes, in a way, Alicent is trying to give her a “way out” from having a child.
these three need to watch a Targaryan family tree explanation video because its frustrating to watch them confuse all the Aegons. lmao. There is Aegon the Conqueror, who is the 1st of his name. He isnt in this show because its before. He's the one Viserys is actually talking about. The OG Aegon, he is the one who had visions, the dreams about a song of ice and fire, he passed it onto his heirs and them over to their until Vicerys. All the other Aegons that came after was named after him, including the 2 in the show and Jon Snow in Game of Thrones... who is the ACTUAL "prince that was promised." Jon Snows real name is Aegon Targaryan as well. Also Viserys NEVER named anyone else his heir other than his daughter. He had one true love and considered her his only "real" child.
Lebron's younger son is taller than his oldest.
22:37 these brief seconds where Viserys looks at Rhaenyra were so powerful, I always get emotional
in the moment where she was being cornered, her father came to help, even in the condition he was in
he is a creep who calls her his only child.
@@sitting_nut why is he a creep?
@@davidnobre5660 you ask? among other things he married very young alicent by choice( if he married leana reluctantly due to duty that would have have been cringe, but by marrying alicent by choice he is a creep ). and then treated her and her children horribly even calling rhaenyra his only child, in this episode.
@@sitting_nut you mean this epsiode, the episode where he was pumped with drugs and half way in the grave?
he was pressured to marry again, for the realm...
it's interesting to see that you would choose the youngest of the two, if you were in his position
and you have the audacity to call him a creep lol
at that time it was normal to marry at 16 and 15, some times even at 14
when a girl got her first period, it meant she was ready to be wedded
@@davidnobre5660 only a lover of creep like you will say it was "normal". he was pressured to marry but he he chose his bride. if it was due to pressure only, correct ( though cringe) political choice would have been leana, not alicent . he chose alicent because he is a creep. throughout his life he was covering up murderous crimes and frauds of his daughter and brother . and his incompetent criminal actions directly led to war .
Ned as Hand sat on the throne. Tywin as Hand sat on the throne. Of course Otto as Hand should sit the throne.
The moment King Viserys enters the Hall and defending his "only child". Always gives me goosebumps even i've watched it many times.
Also when Daemond helping Viserys to sit in the iron throne.😢
Viserys, Rhaenyra And Daemon love for each other. 🥺
Margaery is a Tyrell, but her mother is a Hightower.
2:43 Juse like Samwell's family (House Tarly), The Hightowers are vassals of the Tyrells. Like the Boltons, Karstarsks, and the Reeds are vassals of House Stark. Both the Hightowers and the Tyrells are from the kingdom/region of The Reach. The Tyrell's seat is Highgarden, and House Hightower's seat is Oldtown, which is where Samwell went to study.
Aemond goat status
33:47 this was such a beautiful moment 😭
what a great episode, what a great character Viserys was
RIP
viserys is a well written and acted instance of a horrible father and king, who deceives himself that he is well meaning, but really isn't. he is well meaning only to his daughter, to others, including his children by alicent, alicent herself, and his subjects, he is opposite of well meaning . he is a horrible father, husband and king. foreseeable consequences of his actions prove that clearly.
@@sitting_nut you're saying means them harm? how does he mean them harm?
@@davidnobre5660 perhaps you should be clear as what you are asking .
viserys is a horrible father(except for rhaenyra) , husband and king. foreseeable consequences of his actions prove that clearly. among other things, he act like a petty tyrant, and literally covers up and furthers rhaenyra's fraudulent attempt to get driftmark, by murder..
@@sitting_nut I couldn't have been clearer
you said "who deceives himself that he is well meaning, but really isn't. he is well meaning only to his daughter, to others, including his children by alicent, alicent herself, and his subjects, he is opposite of well meaning"
the opposite of meaning well is meaning harm
so basically you said Viserys meant harm to everybody around him except Rhaenyra
but that is such a ridiculous and so far from the truth thing to say that I still had to ask, to be certain...
@@davidnobre5660 you clearly have reading comprehension problems and is obviously irrational. typical for creep supporters.
if you want to defend the creep and refute what i said, do that . but don't try to falsely attribute to me things i didn't say.
i said , "he deceives himself that he is well meaning, but really isn't. he is well meaning only to his daughter, to others, including his children by alicent, alicent herself, and his subjects, he is opposite of well meaning."
all of which is factual . creepily marrying alicent ( purely because he wanted to, not because he was "pressured" as you falsrly claim in another thread ) and then treating her and her children horribly as he did throughout ( eg: denying justice to aemend , calling rhaenyra his only child etc etc ) is opposite of well meaning .
Visarys was undeserving of Alicent's love and devotion.
Lol, Rat otto and Alicent weren’t deserving of being the hand or being married to the king. Bunch of fuckin schemers out for themselves who don’t actually care about what’s best for the realm. Self righteous snakes
for real
viserys calling rhaenyra "my only child" in my opinion is a reaffirmation that aemma was the love of his life and that he does not consider the children he had with alicent as his and i love him for that
you love the creep because he plays favorite with his own children. despicable much?
@@sitting_nut no one could love those salty and bitter people😂
@@JessChillN_ so you love a creep and his criminal petty tyrant daughter and brother? ok . thanks for showing who you are .
you love him for forcing pregnancies on a girl endangering her life over and over again for literally no reason at all?
The point of Targaryens marrying each other, is to keep their (dragon) blood as pure as possible. The dragons will only bond humans with Targaryen blood.
21:22 Now THAT is an entrance. Not some drug addle old man but the King in his right mind with all his wits.
Ok this one is my favorite episode. Hi Dimple!
jesus christ... immediatley you are jumping on the hate train when Alicent is shown. The tribalism is so weird.
people seem to not really pay attention during her scenes or scenes related to the Greens which causes them to fill in the blanks and that's how we get all of these bonkers and mind-boggling takes
So no one corrected them on the whole stealing dragon thing?
The second Viserys shows up and that whole scene is one of my favorite tv moments ever. I love it so much
14:58 “Oh He Has A Wife”
Yeah, You Girls Don’t Remember In The Last Episode That He Was Betrothed To His Sister?
And That’s Why His Lil Brother Was Saying He Wishes It Was Him, That He Would Do His Duty
Evan Mitchell who plays Aemond is 26. Tom Glynn-Carney who plays Aegon is 28.
viserys is a well written and acted instance of a horrible father and king, who deceives himself that he is well meaning, but really isn't. he is well meaning only to his daughter, to others, including his children by alicent, alicent herself, and his subjects, he is opposite of well meaning . he is a horrible father, husband and king. foreseeable consequences of his actions prove that clearly.
show did well to ensure vaemond went on saying what he said instead of backing down, even though he knew there wont be a good outcome for him. he for one is not taking injustice of entitled tyrants passively. and this is an instance where making his house black fits rather well. scene is full of various subtextual nuances and allusions.
aemond started only after luke served him a pig.
also prophecy can be misleading. that prophecy was probably made intentionally to destroy targs and dragons.
0:49 Ah yes, Alicent's second son, A-a-ron :))
The 1st to have the name Aegon was Aegon the conqueror.
Alicent and Viserys son is the 2nd to be named Aegon.
Rhaenyra and Daemon's son is the third.
Aw you guys missed the 'greet our guests in a manner that befits their station' from Otto, while Rhaenyra and Daemon receive no greeting at all. Shows how corrupted the council is already that they say this openly about the heir.
Yeah, the cold reception was such an obvious shade. Compare that to when Robert Baratheon showed up to Winterfell and all the Starks, their assistants, and even lowly castle peasants were lined up to receive their king. And on this show the Sea Snake stayed inside and sent his daughter out to receive Viserys at Driftmark as shade for Viserys marrying Alicent instead of Laena.
@@atkim122 exactly, they did that scene to set this up I'm sure
@@atkim122 ikr? The amount of disrespect Targaryens already are facing (mainly Viserys’s line) is so much visible about renegade councillors.
George RR Martin said in a interview that he recycles the names in the show because in times of old England every king was named after each other (King Richard, Charles,Henry etc)
One other point I needed to address for ya Margery is related to the High tower her mother is Alerie Hightower who married Mace Tyrell! So yeah Margery is 1/2 High Tower !
so the show is really showing aegon in a villinous light and whitewashing rhaenyra massively. he wasnt a rapist in the book and rhaenyra in books gave order for vaemonds execution to daemon,, who tracked vaemond down killed him and rhaenyra feed his corpse to syrax. mind you book vaemond did not even put forth any petition neither did he called her whore. he just complained about her bastard kids inheriting to his brother nd some relatives in private,
then vaemonds kids and relatives came to court to complain about it to king viserys and he had all of their tongues removed.
He is a rapist and a child predator in the books as well. Cope
They try to make rhaenyra look like the hero in the show
I mean they massively whitewashed Alicent as well. They made her a “victim” of the patriarchy in the show when SHE IS NOT in the books. She is worst than show Otto in the books. Everybody gets altered in some way or another. That’s why it’s called an adaptation.
@@ev2155 well they tried to whitewash alicent but it fell flat, she is the most hated character of the show.
book alicent was better she wasnt a victim and had more agency.
@@nitikasood6597 I disagree I think most people hate Otto in the show the most because he manipulates Alicent which is why she is a empathetic character!
It's not poisen, It's moontea and it prevents pregnancy.
Ya'll I love ya but the confusion over the basic lore stuff is killing me!! 😭💀
The Aegon that had the dream of Fire And Ice is Aegon The Conqueror.
The Aegon that Viserys is saying is the one is not his son or his grandson. It is the One that "Knows Nothing"!
Daemon and Viserys had a 3rd brother who died early named Aegon. Daemon probably named his two sons after his brothers.
The Targaryens marry brothers and sisters so much to keep bloodlines pure because the dragons are the source of their power and if they mix with other house those house could have kids that can ride dragons too so the Targaryens are trying to keep the mix of bloodlines down as much as possible so they don't lose "control" of the dragon power in the country.
"Is she going to kill her dad?" ... what the hell?? :)) Anyway, the Hand of the King sits the throne in the king's absence. Ned Stark did the exact same thing in S1 of GOT
Aemond is justified in his anger towards the strong boys.
But the reason you thought Margery was a Hightower is because the tyrels are from high garden!!! So you were close 🥳
The hand of king is there to assist the king, oppose the king and sometimes act as king when king is unavailable. So, Otto can sit the throne under some circumstances.
"Off with his Head!"
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I understand the Aegon confusion, there are just too many of them lol
After watching all of game of thrones and 8 episodes of HotD and y’all still don’t understand the significance of the name aegon 😂😂
Right or wrong. You dont get to call the princess a whore, especially at court, in front of her father, and husband.
Is Sam the only one with a brain? Lol jfc
Looks like Rhaenyra and her brother got some things in common.
jace have 15 years and luke has 14 aemond has 20 and aegon 22
Guys come on...8 episodes in we are still confused 😢
5:39 The king will have your tongue for that
you guy miss alot of stuff
I honestly think the prophecy was talking about Jon Snow especially since he’s obviously called aegon and says ‘u are the one’ and Alicent says prince aegon thinking it’s her son but could be a hint it’s actually Jon since technically he’s a prince and he’s named aegon
I need episode 9 today ladies!! 😭
He says only child because he loved her the most from he's first wife and true love that's why he said my only child Alicent's children were bred because there were too few targaryens and now there are too many
Family tree? Its a family wreath!
Viserys said aegon, right? But its aegon are jon snow, your real name
For the Strongs Boys!!!
Viserys was talking about Aegon the Conqueror's (the one who united the Seven Kingdoms) dream, he prophecised the song of ice and fire, aka the events of the OG Game of Thrones
The tears I shed this episode maaaan
Yall are rlly saying Otto wants the best for the realm lol yall probably one of the few girls who dont rlly question the gender system in westeros cus they want a man no matter what on that throne and yall kinda just accept that when the best for the kingdom is somone who is strong like Daemon but kind like Viserys = Rhaenyra
Squelching cracks me up.. But stranger things is the king of (Squelching*)
All this confusion among them about Aegon... just to all be wrong because they're talking about Jon Snow aka Aegon Targarian, The Prince That Was Promised 😂😂 tragic smh
Congrats to the makeup team for making Viserys look worse each episode