Why Season 4 of Game of Thrones is THE BEST
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This is a Video Essay analyzing why season 4 of Game of Thrones is the best season within the show. Taking a look at the best Subplots, primary turning point, aura of mystery, main villain, character turning points, and efficiency of storytelling.
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Timecodes:
Intro: (0:00)
Peak Subplots: (0:24)
Turning Point: (6:20)
Loot Crate: (9:00)
Aura of Mystery: (9:41)
Main Villain: (11:51)
Character Turning Points: (14:56)
Efficiency of Storytelling: (17:20)
Conclusion: (20:03)
For the next season, I'll most likely look at Season 5 and go over why it was a letdown.
I am no Patreon so maybe my opinion is not important. But i would have prefered if you started describing the 8 subplots beginning with Jon's rather than Dany, to hold the viewer's attention.
Finishing watching now and sharing;)
can you make a video about season 6, how great it was ?
I mean... season 6 wasn't really great, definitely not on the same level of season 1-4
@@Schutz_Staffel tough to make that video, as season 6 was not great by any means
@@KaladinAndSyl season 6 had amazing moments not gonna lie
*Tywin dies*
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I think Charles Dance as Tywin is possibly the best and most perfect casting decision probably ever.
Agreed
Nailed it I love him
he and pedro as oberyn
No, the most perfect casing decision for a character was Travis Fimmel as Ragnar Lothbrok in Vikings.
I'd argue every veteran actor helped the show and as they were 'killed' off, we were left with 3rd rate actors, child actors whom grew up and proves this will always be an issue with children 'growing' with roles, and a script adjusted to make up for these shortcomings. After Got ended, the constant attempts to profit from these lackluster actors made popular by everything which propped them up continues to haunt us. Certain Actors whom really shine are proof of great casting even if largely unknown. A good example is HBO's Rome casting Indira Varma, while in GoT she was just 'less' effective.
If Tywin survived till Season 8-
'It's because you're a dwarf, and I'm tall.'
'I nEvEr ReAlLy CaReD aBoUt ThE fAmIlY lEgAcY'
Tywin: " at least you have balls unlike that spider "
If tywin had survived until season 8, the night king would have retired
Thank god they killed him, he was my favorite character when it came to dialogue. They would have butchered him
@@thewiseass895 lmfao
He was granted the grace of dying before being ruined as a character.
I'm so confused when people say that Joffrey's murderers weren't revealed until Olenna's death. Didn't Littlefinger admit his involvement immediately while ushering Sansa away (telling her about the poison in her necklace)? And Olenna admit hers to Margaery the next day: "did you think I was going to let you stay married to that monster," or something along those lines? I've heard several people say that Joffrey's killers were a mystery but unless I'm inventing conversations that never happened I recall them letting us know pretty much right away.
Yeah, theres a clear as day scenario at Littlefingers brothel were Olenna straight up says "our fates are bonded, together we killed a king". Saying the reveal came seasons later is a big oversight.
I didnât believe either of them. i always assumed the true killer would be revealed later, I was wrong.
This is exactly what I thought when he said it was revealed in season 7 too
Literally 2 episodes after Joffrey's death, Olenna straight up tells Margaery she did it Lmao
I knew as soon as he was poisoned, there was a scene during his death where Olenna looked at Tyrion and it just clicked to me.
Answer: Pedro Pascal
Yes.
Hell yeah
Yes...he's awesome
"season 3 was good...but it could be better"
"you're hired"
This is the way
Charles Dance really elevated every scene he was in. As much as I loved him Iâm almost grateful they killed Tywin off before the writing went out the window.
Ikr? I didnât know it was possible to hate and love/respect character like that at same time đđ»
@Larry Love That's the thing, though. They can write. Tywin's introductory scene where he's skinning the deer, that was written by them. The entire Chaos is a Ladder speech, written by them. The scene between Robert and Cersei, written by them. None of these moments were in the books.
I have no idea what happened with later seasons, though. Seems they just lost interest.
@@megashark1013 Itâs because D n D weâre in talks with the big bad mouse to do a Star Wars movie. George had said there is enough content for 13 seasons but the writers wanted to be done and move on so they shit out the last few seasons as quickly as they could
@@johnthebaptist9828 Weird that they would prioritise anything over the ending of the most popular TV show of all time, one that they've been writing for well over 5 years.
He even came out and said that he didnt think the last 2 seasons were very good so imagine if they tried to make him act as Tywin out of character.
"You think a crown gives you power"... Tywin didn't have a crown and he was litterally the most powerful character in the show at the moment
Master pycelle says ' Lord Tywin wore no crown yet he was all a king should be'
Yes, that's what he meant.
Thatâs literally what he was implying by saying that. Congratulations. You spelled it out for everyone else.
@@friendlyneighborhoodcollec5928 must be miserable to be an asshole for for no reason đ€Ł
He had to wait for Robert to die, bro was scared đ
Even if he's only in s4, Pedro Pascal did a fantastic job as Oberyn Martell. And The Viper vs The Mountain is my favorite fight scene in GoT. That f****ing ending... still gets me...
My favourite fight in the entire show is Beric vs The Hound in the cave. Freaking music there is amazing and their powerful strikes... Best fight ever. I've watched it countless times
Yes Oberyn Martell was an amazing character.
It pisses me off every time because he had him but... he just had to be petty.
It's no coincidence that peak GoT was also peak Tywin.
Well, they ran out of book material in season 5 and had to improvise a lot. (Sand snakes, Stannis, ...)
Seasons 5 and 6 still had good moments. (provided by the author)
But starting with season 7 the show slowly fell apart.
@@JackoBanon1 Bullshit. They didn't ran out of books THAT IS A GIANT MYTH THAT NEEDS TO DIE! The two fuckwits D&D simply decided not to adapt most of Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons. They only adapted the major points and made everything else up. The Dorne plot is completely different in the books for instance. Stannis' plot line is also different and basically every other plot line is much better and more refined in the books.
The show after season 4 is a giant load of crap.
@@Ignisan_66 That's actually what I tried to say. The problem with A Feast For Crows and Dance Of Dragons is that many of the storylines there are unbelievably boring and tedious and even the author doesn't seem to know how to bring them to a satisfying closure. (Why is The Winds Of Winter taking so long after all?)
That's why I said they ran out of book material because they didn't adapt the (unfinished) storylines of the author and improvised most of it.
@@JackoBanon1 I disagree about AFFC and ADWD being boring and tedious. At the first glance they may seem boring and tedious but they are much deeper and interesting when you read them again. These two books also add a lot of worldbuilding to the story and I'm a fan of worldbuilding.
@@Ignisan_66 Yeah, I read them after the first 3 great books (before I started watching the show) and I hated them. Nothing happens. A lot of foreshadowing and hints but then another 50 sites of boring nonsense. And GRRM still doesn't know how to end those endless, boring storylines.
Olenna actually revealed that she killed Joffrey in a conversation with Margaery, in S4E4, two episodes after his death. But only the audience and Margaery knew. Season 7 was when the rest of the characters found out.
Other than that, this was a great analysis.
She heavily implied it. I wouldn't say she outright admitted it though.
@@bovineking8927 You could argue that. She never outright said âI killed Joffrey.â
But she did say âTyrion didnât kill him. You didnât think Iâd let you marry that beast, did you?â Which is basically admitting it, in my mind anyway.
@@Little_Lotta Yes, she definitely admitted it. It's an easy an example of reading between the lines, just like Ned Stark reading Joffrey being "golden haired" obviously meant he was the bastard kid of lannisters and not a baratheon, nobody needed to outright say it. So you're 100% correct and the reveal in S7 was just for all the other characters to find out.
She also threatened Little Finger when he came back in s5. So twice before s7.
Bovine King oh come off it. Saying âyou didnât think Iâd let you marry that beast did you?â Is admitting it, sheâs saying she did something to stop that happening.
Tyrion's trial was one of the best things I've ever seen
Tyrionâs whole speech at the end was some of the best acting ever. The amount of emotion he shows and transitions through from rage, sadness and frustration, he cycles through them all multiple times and itâs both satisfying and heart wrenching.
YES! That scene alone made it my favorite season.
Dinklage's performance in the courtroom scene just makes me even sadder that he didn't get the opportunity to portray a darker Tyrion in the later seasons. Seriously, that would've been magnificent.
Because of Tywin, Oberyn and Tyrion, not to mention Joffrey was killed
Best explanation ever
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You edited this comment and it still makes 0 sense
â@@xdlmao42 They're just answering "Why Season 4 of Game of Thrones is the best"
Trumped by season 3: Red wedding, Jamie looses hand, littlefinger speech chaos is a laddahh, Joffrey at his peak, Daenerys unleashes dragon for the first time. John and Ygritteâs relationship
The end of season 3 was too calm and familiar? Do you remember a little thing called the Red Wedding?
I was thinking the same thing. There was nothing calm and familiar about the demise of Robb and Catelyn. It was one of the more painful things to watch in this show.
Maybe the wording wasn't the best, but Supercuts made the point that it was because the Red Wedding completed the story arcs for Robb and Catelyn, as heartbreaking as it was.
A lot of the other characters end up in fairly good positions at the end of season 3, meaning that their stories become calm and familiar for the time being. The closing of Robb and Catelyn's story arcs removes them from the story as a whole, leaving those other characters in a relatively lofty, comfortable situation.
that wasnt the end of 3 though...
@@glennross85 what wasn't the end of season 3?
@@glennross85 it was close to the end
When you realise literally all the people in the courtroom are dead but the man standing trial is still aliveđđ
Well, very dumb and naive but still... alive
It's almost like running out of book was a huge issue for the show.
It was.
They didn't ran out of books. They simply didn't care to adapt it properly. The last two books are enormous and have material for about 6 seasons. GRRM himself said that they could have gone to 13 seasons but D&D wanted to rush everything to get a sweet Star Wars deal.
@@Ignisan_66 Yeah no dude, they ran out of book. Sure, they could have stretched out the show to include more details from the books, but at the end of season 5, they caught up with the books' plotlines, and had nothing more to work with. There is no more material to advance the story.
@@NavidIsANoob Not to mention the writers were getting impatient and wanted to do other projects, but refused to bring on more writers to carry it along because they wanted the credit to themselves for industry clout.
...and promptly shot themselves in the feet by trashing the end of GoT and damaging their reputations in the process. Fitting.
The show couldâve easily got better than Season 4, if they didnât run into so many problems, and if D&D could write, anything đ
The best character turning point for the hound is that he realizes that he can't eat every fucking chicken in the room
lol
He can eat every #$%& chicken, but he chooses to share one with Ariya
"I suppose that's what happens when you tell the king to f*ck off"
It's Ygritte and not Rose. Also, Olenna did hint at her being the one who killed Joffrey when she talked with Margery about it.
Other than that, Great Video.
That completely flew over my head. I don't know why I was calling her by her real name Rose Leslie
Interesting the casting for the actress who play Ygritte was gave to her after she deliver the line "you know nothing John Snow"
@@SupercutsDelight i don't blame u. she was so perfect for that role that it's hard to distinguish between the actress and the character she played
Yeah and olenna and littlefinger also talk about killing joffrey in littlefingers destroyed brothel in like season 6
@Jacob Sirak I am not sure, On hand, he hated Tyrion enough to do it, and on the other, he most likely didn't want to be remembered as the man that sentenced his own son to die.
It's like that theory about Oberyn poisoning Tywin, He would do it if he could, but did he actually manage to do it before the duel with the mountain?
The Tyrells are the most compelling family to me. They play nice, But play well. They Made every season they were in worthwhile to watch. I hate that the show killed them off.
Fun Fact: Kit (Jon) and Rose (Ygritte) are actually together and got married back in 2018, they met on the Game of Thrones cast and it was apparently love at first sight.
This makes me happy and explains why they were so dynamic as romantic partners
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@@lornafarrelly7797 I don't think some people did. Just because you did doesn't mean others did
Then they broke up
@@jamessmith-bt3jj :[
@@jamessmith-bt3jj false, they're still married and had a kid in 2021
The first four seasons are are perfection as everything feels morally grey, slowly but surely the conflicts start becoming very black and white, having obvious heroes and villains.
Exactly. Stannis is one of my favorite characters, partly because even though heâs very much an evil, horrible villain heâs also the greatest man in Westeros. The slaughter of the Raynes, of ellia martel, of the north at the red wedding, all of these acts were pure evil but they were also the best solutions to dangerous problems. The Raynes would never respect house Lannister, and would inspire others to do the same, so he made an example thatâs enforced loyalty for decades. Ellia was innocent, but she was married to the enemy and her children were the Heirs to the throne after Aerys died. If they werenât killed then there would have just been another war, another succession crisis. Itâs not his fault the mountain heard âkill Ellia and her kidsâ and took it as ârape her with her childrenâs bloodâ, the mountain is a monster. And even though the red wedding was a heinous crime against customs of Westeros, it was the easiest and least bloody way to end the war and keep the losses to a minimum. The Boltons and the Freys got the blame for breaking guestright, along with prestigious and powerful castles. And Tywin got rid of his biggest threats with one order, and not a single battle won. If thereâs a simple and relatively bloodless way to end a war immediately, is it not the right thing to do? All of these acts are awful and evil from one perspective, bad but pragmatic and smart from another, and the righteousness course of action in another. Some characters may have different perspectives, but we used to always hear every side. Now itâs just âgood dragon lady and her boy toyâ vs âbad Lannister Lady and her fucking walking crime against natureâ
@@fort809 I think you mean Tywin but yep I agree!
Season 2 was a little rough. But yeah 1, 3, and 4 were the best.
I'm just happy that Ramin Djawadi is returning for House of the Dragon. Seasons 7 and 8 were mostly garbage, but the music was still amazing.
Queens justice spoils of war long night and in my opinion the bells are all fantastic episodes
@@xdlmao42 I agree with the queens justice and the spoils of war, definitely not the other two
I have the music on Spotify haha
House of the Dragon will be another load of crap. Mark my fucking words.
@JustWater yea that's because die hard fans like us were still willing to give it a chance, after a mediocre season 5, a promising season 6, a action packed but most times lack luster season 7, and a black hole of terrible writing, ridiculous plot progression, non stop character assassinations, and an over the top level of epic scenes that just completely abandoned everything that GRRM has worked more than 30 years to accomplish, and that the actors worked the past 10 years to portray those characters accurately, just to rush thru and complete season 8 so they could go try and ruin star wars. Which they god they didn't get the chance too. There's been too much ruining of star wars going on already.
There are two issues I have with this season.
1: I think finding out who killed Joffrey so soon was a bad decision by D&D in hindsight. Can you imagine just how much people would have lost their SHIT when Olenna confesses to Jaime in Season 7 if we didn't know?
2 - and this is a BIG ONE: Tyrion's Motivation for killing Tywin. In the books, Tyrion has a final straw moment with Tywin regarding his first wife Tysha - he mentions her in Season 1 to Shae. He saves her from being raped and they fall in love and get married in secret, Braveheart style. But then Tywin tells him she was a whore they paid because they thought it was about time he was with a woman - and then they had all the guards have sex with her and paid a gold coin for each before sending her on her way.
However, in the books, Jaime tells him that she was all she ever seemed to be - a girl met on the road. He loses his shit, tells Jaime he killed Joffrey and goes to confront Tywin with the crossbow. He asks him where Tysha is and Tywin replies "wherever whores go" - crossbow bolt to the gut.
Omitting this completely ruins Tyrion as a character because it removes his motivation for killing Tywin and stops him from going completely down the deep end. From there, they just kinda have Tyrion doing whatever, whereas in the books, he's angry and vengeful, and there's theories he is instrumental in corrupting Dany in the Mad Queen storyline, which would fit with his rant at the trial.
I think they removed it for 2 reasons -
1: Tysha simply wasn't instrumental enough in the show and they didn't want a call back (in the books, Tyrion is a POV character and she's constantly in his thoughts, which you can't really adapt)
2: I believe Tyrion is the anthesis to Jaime - Jaime is the knight in shining armor who fucks his sister and kills his king, but redeems himself throughout the story when you realise he's actually a decent guy overall. Tyrion is the dwarf who is misunderstood, mistreated and longs for love and affection - but the hatred and abuse he receives turns him into the evil monster everyone already believes he is. However, they wanted Tyrion to be the good guy.
This causes problems later on because I believe part of the reason they killed Barristan in Season 5 was because they wanted to replace him with Tyrion - but this means Tyrion is in service of Dany now, he's just a cog in her arc and has no arc of his own. So they kill one character prematurely to replace him with another that really shouldn't be in that role. This choice I think creates a ripple effect that means the Mad Queen storyline just ends up being fucked up. I mean it was still doable, but I think not giving Dany a darker, incredibly influential counsel to feed into her hatred of Westorosi people is a missed opportunity, and a darker Tyrion and fatherly figure of Barristan could have been an interesting dynamic - like an angel and devil on her shoulders.
As things happened though, it completely reduced Tyrion to being a small part of Dany's arc, when he should have had an arc of his own.
this is such a great analysis honestly
I feel like after Dance Tyrion will somehow get up from this hole he is now. After all we still see that deep inside there is good in him when he saves Penny and risks his life for Jorah. It's like back in book 1 when he went to save Cath. It's just natural for him to risk his life for others. Of course maybe he will lead Dany into a darker path and may want to fix it once he comes to his senses.
Agreed.
And Tyrion is just so spiteful of Cersei in Book 5. So its so dumb in S7 when he somehow believes she'll do the right thing and help fight against the Night King. Its like he completely forgets the torment he's received his entire life from Cersei
Yeah the mishandling of Tyrion was a huge disappointment and was when I started losing interest in the show, and it just went futhrer and further downhill from there. Also having read the books between season 3 and 4 I noticed a there being a lot more unneccassary and just kinda dumb sub plots being introduced. Worst one was Yara infiltrating Ramsey's castle to rescue Theon, just leaving him there after seeing how broken he's become and having Ramsey be some shirtless dual knife wielding boss fight.
Watch The Dragon Demands videos about why D&D changed major events from the books and even their own screenplay right before the production of each season started including omitting Tysha which completely killed Tyrion's character arc, David Benioff often talked about how his parents neglected him growing up and it got to the point where he was a bit older when a friend's mother pointed out that he had a speech impediment, it was a problem with "sh" sounds and he went to speech therapy and got it fixed, but he just did not want to say the word "Tysha"
Season 4 was the major start of many storytelling problems to come aside from the changes to Episode 2 The Lion and the Rose, like killing off Pyp, Grenn, and Jojen Reed for no reason, minimizing the depth of the Night's Watch storylines namely Jon Snow's scenes and rushing Bran's story to the end of A Dance With Dragons so they had no Bran for an entire season, which was jarring for such an important and magical character, not including Lady Stoneheart was another missed opportunity for something really good in the show
They also took way too long with Stannis getting to the Wall and he killed off Mance Rayder instead of glamoured Rattleshirt which is more of a Season 5 problem, but it all goes back to dumb and lazy decisions in Season 4, and there were other intriguing events involving Stannis at the end of A Storm of Swords like the Jon Snow legitimization offer, Stannis showing Aemon Lightbringer, and Jon Snow's election as Lord Commander, but instead they slowed that whole thing down and kept making Stannis as uninteresting compared to the books as possible, that's why Stephen Dillane said he never understood why Stannis made the decisions he did and that he relied on Liam Cunningham to explain everything to him
Tyrion demanding a trial by combat is possibly the best moment in the entire show.
They way Peter deliver the line too.
"I demand a trial by combat"
And the stare down between Tywin and Tyrion.
Can't believe they ended the show this season I wish Tyrion gets himself together and start a new life
Same. What a shame, but at least it ended on a highnote and will be remembered as a really good tv show and not a complete letdown forever and always.
tbh. i got into the show between the airing of s4 and 5, so after s4 i had such high expectations... but it all went downhill after that
@@yoshilover4202 I started right before s8 so I binged the whole show in under 2 weeks and I was on such a high that I refused to believe that s8 was bad, but I had to admit that the last seasons sucked and that s8 is actually a pile of herpes and poop smothered over a script. Damn the 4 first seasons were good. I feel bad for all the other people involved because everything from music, costumes, sets etc. were amazing, but the god awful showrunners dum and dumber with their dog ass script ruined everything.
@@yoshilover4202
4 years straight of disappointment ... jeez
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Not sure why HBO is focusing on prequels, still waiting on the Season 5-8 Remake
When will people stop demanding this???? The actors are waaay too old. Olenna is even dead. And it would never be the same with other actors. So forget it!! Prequels is the best we can get.
Same.
@@pepsibente489 lol if you donât relax đ
@@pepsibente489 yeah and also if youâre gonna redo game of thrones it should be if all the books are out
(f)Aegon would have been very nice to see
Charles Dance as Tywin is phenomenal casting. Dude is so menacing and he oozes power whenever he speaks. Everyone knows heâs the true king behind the scenes
Oberyn Martell was such a good additionâŠmanâs was there for one season and became a fan favourite.
Euron: I killed Jamie Lannister.
Drogon: Hold my beer
brick*
Brick says hi
@@shintojohn1647 but bricks have a bit of that on so magical dragon fire on them
Bricks : *Am I a joke to you?*
"It's the simple things in life that matter the most."
but didn't we discover that olenna killed joffrey in a conversation between her and margaery?
I'm still not convinced that Margaery was ever aware that it was Olenna who killed Joffrey.
@@mrtom2854 iirc olenna says tyrion didn't do it, margaery asks how could she know and she says smth like "you really thought i was gonna let you marry him" so i always thought that she knew then
@@yoshilover4202 Oh yeah I'd forgotten about that conversation
@@mrtom2854 I actually thought baelish killed him and olenna was in on the plan.
But it was the opposite. He gave the poison and she offed joffrey
ikr. we did
I mourned Oberyn's death. One of my favorite characters in GoT. Up there with Stannis, Tywin and Ned. Wish he had more screen time.
Oberyn's death was D&D foreshadowing how they were planning on killing GoT.
Stannis? Really?
@@lornafarrelly7797 yeah aha I liked his character arc. The not chosen king that is lead to believe he is the chosen king. He's like the hero of his own arc. Champion of the people. Right up until he sacrificed you know who. Then, I hated his guts. But even when he was dying, he did so with grace and fortitude. He didn't complain about his circumstances even when he realized he had made a huge mistake. He took his loss with dignity. The witch was his biggest poison.
The scene with Sansa defending Petyr Baelish is honestly one of the best moments in the whole season. In the books she is a very imaginative character, so of course she could come up with this story so easily. She's starting to realize, as a woman, that she can be anything that the men around her want her to be, to ensure her survival. If they had kept up with this development of her character in later seasons, then I would have liked her character a lot.
Oberyn was my favourite character in the entire show, such a badass
He is the great mandalore
When he said that epic speech (some how with out making it cheesy at all) đ„
"At least wear a helmet"
Yeah man... His death kinda left me empty
@@philippkoch662 Yeah if he wore that Beskar helmet he wouldn't have got his head crushed. I swear the fight between Djin Jarin and the Darktrooper where he kept getting his face smashed was a homage to that.
The rape scene between Jamie and Cersei was the first dose of dumb and dumber. Wasnât in the book and served no purpose. Also made the actors very uncomfortable. Crazy how dumb and dumber actually got credit for these seasons when all they did was copy a book đ smh.
Other than the 1st season, s2-s4 were deviating big time from the book.
Even brienne vs hound wasn't in the books.
@@randomhuman97 yea ik but it was still great. The only change dumb and dumber made that I really liked is Tywin meeting Arya. Mainly just the acting especially for a child actor was phenomenal imo.
I think after the success of every season dumb and dumber started to think it was because of them. When really every change they made was worse.
Letâs just hope the prequels are good. I think an anime got announced and would actually be faithful to the books. đ
Yep. One of many rape scenes they added that were not in the books. As well as Khal Drogo raping Dany on her wedding night, and Ramsey raping Sansa.
@CZcamsr Yeah, they came up with so many rape and almost-rape scenes that not only didn't add to the plot but detracted from it. If Khal Drogo is a rapist, why does she fall in love with him? What sort of fucked up message does that send? "If a man is a rapist, you just need to be sexier for him and then he will stop hurting you"?? In the books it makes sense because he seduces her and she's willing from the beginning. Apparently they also wanted Sansa naked during the rape scene with Ramsey and she refused. Sansa was never almost raped during the riot either. It wouldn't have made any sense because it's later implied that Littlefinger planned the riot to kidnap Sansa amid the chaos just like he planned the Purple Wedding despite having no clear motive against the Lannisters - just so he could kidnap Sansa using Dontos. This makes sense in the books because no one tries to rape Sansa. A man takes her horse's reins as if to lead her away somewhere but then the Hound comes, chops off his hand, and escorts Sansa back to the Red Keep. Littlefinger would not want Sansa, who is important to him for some reason, to be raped by some rando peasant so ofc his henchman wasn't about to rape her. In the show the almost rape scene doesn't provide any value to the plot and is just used to show up her skirt basically.
@@otterlover3399 The Ramsay Sansa scene was substantially worse in the books my dude. It was her friend being passed off as Arya and there were dogs involved, theon was involved, it was horrible.
Tywin was one of my favorite characters. He was so awesome.
10:51 Joffery's death wasn't really a mistery. Lady Olenna straight up told Margery that she's the one who murdered Joffery, right after it happened.
Best actors of the show all clashed together this season. Charles Dance (Tywin), Pedro Pascal (Oberyn) and Peter Dinklage (Tyrion).
I would say show Oberyn is even better than book Oberyn thanks to Pedro.
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau is also amazing and relates to the plot
Thatâs why I prefer the show to the book for season 1-4. The book is awesome but itâs always better to see something lol. Especially when the acting is so good
Shame on you for not including Lena Headey
@@ayourmum8521 You never even read the books did you?
@@glennross85 I did and their my favorite books lol.
Just if you told me to rewatch seasons 1-4 or reread books 1-3. Ima rewatch the showđ€·ââïž. The books are better in basically every way in terms of story telling. Not denying that.
Seasons 1-4 are right up there with breaking bad for goat television.
Fuck dumb and dumber
When Tywin died, so did the true quality of the show.
Iâm calling bullshit. 8 is fucking awful and 7 is bad, but 6 is great, and five is ok
@@kylepollack3029I liked every season
Season 6 was actually my favourite Season. Mainly because of the hodor episode, battle of the bastards and the most amazing finale to a season I've ever seen. I was so hyped for season 7. But as soon as they stopped making 10 episodes it went downhill...
@@yon5244 then watch it again, because Tyrion went from being the smart and funny to being the useless and stupid in the later seasons.
@@hnys7976 Season 6 had some of the greatest moments in the series, but overall it's not as constantly good as the first 4 seasons were.
The Hound and Arya meeting the farmer with his daughter is one of my favorite scenes in the whole series. It shows us so much through those characters... I was seriously emotionally attached to those side characters...
Tywin + Aria = my fav onscreen duo. Wish there had been more of it.
My only problem with season 4 is that it didn't end with the Stoneheart reveal the books ends with.
And that they just didn't mention Tysha, wich makes absolutely no sense, for it makes Tyrions snap to murder Tywin a little more "understandable" .
@@leone.6190 Yeah that too.
Dont forget they also butchered the Dorne plot and Fageon
@@Ph3nom1998 That's season 5. Although you are not wrong. As book fan, I hate season 5.
Omitting Tysha ruins Tyrionâs arc as well as Jaimeâs as it causes Tyrion to reveal to Jaime all of Cerseiâs affairs
Watchers on the Walls is my favourite Battle in GoT.
It's just so fun and emotionally satisfying. Plus Jon's combat roll is đ€
I feel like that episode doesn't get nearly as much credit as it deserves. Easily the best battle in the entire series for me.
@@rickybindahoose6193 easily
THAT and Hardhome imo. Tho the latter is flawed, I loved how it ended at that time.
@@AqwDragulum hardhome is great we learn that Valyrian steel works on the white walkers and ofc the best when the night king resurrects everyone basically like Iâm coming for everyone living and you got no chance
Blackwatter is the BEST
Oberyn might be one of my favorite character of all time and he was only in the show for 1 season. Insane how good the show was in its prime
The mountain vs viper is so frustrating and good at the same time
And they say we are pissed off just because our favorite character didn't ended the way we wanted to... đ
aka Morons
And yet we loved all those momens like OberynÂŽs death, NedÂŽs execution and Red Wedding even though they were heartbreaking and werent what we wanted. First four season were literally denying the fans what they wanted. In fact show ending sucked because DD tried to appease stark fanboys.
@@blaubeer8039 Hahahaha, how did that go?
@@blaubeer8039 that sounds like a sociopath, people who genuinely enjoy season 8 need serious help mentally
My favorite character Lord Tywin died at the end of season 4đ„
Oberyn Martell. That's the only argument you need
Iâve refused to rewatch game of thrones because of how disappointing the later seasons are. You just made me remember why I loved this show so much.
Omg me too. I'm so sad but I just cannot rewatch it knowing that none of it really meant anything in the end.
Book one Littlefinger: "I warned you not to trust me."
Book four Littlefinger: "Olenna and I planned Joffrey's death."
And people just believe everything Littlefinger tells Sansa, bunch of Ned Starks.
I think The Tyrells also came up as a powerhouse (pun intended) in the season 5. Olenna killed a KING just to keep her granddaughter safer.
Also, honestly the slips of agression and obvious jealousy towards Olenna and Margory from Cersei was so satisfyingly palpable in season 3,4 and 5.
@@BambiLena666 If she would have stop helicoptering and let Margory take her place, her son would have survived. Also Margory was the only one that had the power to blunt Joffrey's worst tendencies which Cersei was aware of. It was pure selfishness on her part.
@@ironmonkey1512 your comment actually got me thinking, I cant really remember if Margory actually was able to blunt him down. She got him to like her and at least sometimes humour her because of it, but I think Olenna wouldve killed him regardless. As skillful and smart as Margory is Joffrey was far too cruel with a fragile ego and he enjoyed causing suffering. He got off on it. I cant imagine Olenna would allow to leave Margory in such a situation, to be completely at the mercy of Joffs moods for the rest of her life. I think Olenna was plotting his death from the moment they saw what a monster he is in person and saw/heard from Sansa.
Although i think all of what you said is true for Tommen tho. If she couldve just let go, her family (joffrey excluded) couldve had great and mostly cozy lives (at least until Dany came to Westeros), even if she married Lorrace she wouldve had a cozy life in High Garden, Lorrace was a kind man and gay, he wouldnt bother her for anything.
there are several scenes where Margory is doing charity work and gaining popularity with the poor and Jeoffry appears to be buying into it. This is when Cersei gets concerned and starts undermining her.
I hate the Tyells.
Lord Hightower
Paxter Redwyne
Randyl Tarly
Mathis Rowan
One of these should be warden of the south
11:35 "Joffrey Baratheon" - a lie, take it out.
Joffrey Waters
Tywin Lannister was the greatest character in any book or show ever.
That Brienne v Hound fight was probably my favourite moment of 1v1 battle in the season
7:15 âby the end of season 3, things were a little too calmâ
*The Red Wedding has entered the chat*
During that time Jon Snu was my favourite character and I was rooting for him to survive everything
Now I'm depressed again. I'm glad I came in after S7 was out. Can't imagine being invested for so long just to see it crumble and limp to the finish line.
I'm happy that you didn't have to suffer the trauma. I wish I'd held out on it for longer. But i got in right before season 5 aired... Right at the time the show went southđ
It was actually way better to be a fan early on. There was a period of 5 years where we had the perfect show. I think that was worth it even if everything afterwards sucked
@@chetsirene3835 same I started when season 4 was releasing. So I was utterly shocked when season 4 aired, I could not seriously believe what i am seeing with my eyes. It was magical seeing GOT. That light bulb came to life in the winds of winter episode. After that everything went downhill.
This is why A Storm of Swords is my favourite. The stories are so satisfying!!
We went into Season 4 being used to the Starks getting trampled on, but we ended up seeing any comfort the Lannisters had be destroyed.
I wish that, for some reason, the show got canceled after season 4. The end would've been when Arya leaves Westeros and we would have always wandered what could have happened next. GoT would have been remembered as the greatest show of all time.
It wouldnât be considered the best because then thereâd be a ton of unresolved plot lines
@@jaimelannister1797 and the ones that were resolved were solved awfully. Theorizing about what will happen next in the books is still something fans do 11 years after the last one came out, and a lot of theories were right, R+L=J being a good example. Iâd rather wonder until the end of time what other great stories the GoT universe could tell, than sit through seasons 7 and 8 and realize the answer was none. When the show was unfinished it had limitless potential, now it just has nothing.
Less than nothing, actually, since the utter catastrophe of season 8 has permanently stained the GoT for many of its fans. Why re watch the series when you know the end of Jamieâs massive, complex and amazing character arc is just to crawl back to Circe and be killed by a brick. When you know all of Dannyâs convictions meant nothing and her story ends with her doing a complete 180 and killing hundreds of thousands of innocents, despite her crucifying the masters of Mereen for much much less. Hell, why watch the prequel series HBO is making when the last writers they hired to adapt GRRMâs books decided they could do a better job than him after season 4, and proceeded to dismember the story like a Bolton prisoner.
I know I would prefer unresolved plot lines to what we actually got
@@fort809 Worst thing is that the Charakter which the books are named after (Jon Snow) gets completly destroyed in the last season.
It was so popular that there is no way it could be canceled. Someone with no connection to GRRM would have bought the rights and ruined it some other way.
@@eddarby469 well the cast the producers, and basically everyone that worked on the show could just suddenly die.
This man literally made a special separation for the sponsor, evne in the timeline, so you can very easily skip it or watch it, what a hero. Not even considering the great analysis of the season. What a legend.
This actually makes me so sad. Watching this and realizing that Season 4 really was and still IS the best season, makes me fantazise about how good the later seasons could have been. It was SO GOOD, no other show could keep up with the experience season 4 provides!
From one to four it just got better and better, imagine it wouldâve still gotten better man. They ruined this series so bad. Up until season 6 i watched the series over and over again regularly, but after 7 and 8 I never watched it again.
I must admit, King Joffreyâs Death was very satisfying. He did way too much damage to our heroes ever since his guards murdered Ned Stark.
My heroe is Tywin
Until season 4 everything was nearly perfect, since then the show went downhill, slowly in season 5 and drastically in seasons 6, 7 and 8...
The good bits of Season 4 were the best the show reached and that hides that the bad bits are worse than what came before. The valley of badness was always descending, but until the end of Season 4, it was hidden behind the hill of goodness and then slowly came into view in Season 5 as the hill of goodness descended too.
Yeah but Season 8 was for NFL players and soccer moms, not you. You were not the intended audience, just the inevitable source of money. You'd pay no matter how bad the season was. But Karen soccer moms and concussed 3rd grade failures would pay only if it was the way it was. So, Season 8 did what it had to do to make money.
As a book fan, I have to disagree. Season 5 was a fast downhill.
You are right about everything else.
@@Messilegend1000 what do you mean?
@@Messilegend1000 bruh even casuals hated season 8
The background music is brilliant.
I watched Season 1-3 for the first time just as Season 4 started and followed straight on into it. What a great time.
That bad poussy part was the cringiest thing on the show
LMAO yeah she was trippin
âTywin is the villainâ
Me an intellectual: A lie take it out
Maybe an Antivillan but slander I say!
I think he didn't take joy in hurting ppl he just did everything to protect his family and save his legacy.
@@aigaf well he doesnt enjoy it like the mountain but hes pretty ruthless when it comes to killing apparently even innocents
@@aigaf That makes him a compelling villain, still a villain tho
And if you guys don't agree with the word villain, he's definitely the seasons main antagonist
A lie anywhere
Wasn't it revealed that Olena killed Joffrey much earlier than season 7? I'm pretty sure there was a dialogue between her and Margaery where she said something like "You didn't really think I would let you marry that monster, did you?"
Yup, she fiddles with Margeryâs necklace alluding to how she fiddled with Sansaâs necklace at the wedding which she did to take the poison to slip in Joffreyâs drink
Little finger was involved in Joffreyâs death as well right? Or am I mixing the books with the show?
@@jaimelannister1797 yes
@@jaimelannister1797 he tells Sansa that he was involved pretty much right when she gets to the ship I believe.
I wouldâve done anything to have had a scene even just an outtake between King Robert and Tywin⊠thatâd be priceless!!
Season 4 was when Game of Thrones was perfection, the show could literally do no wrong, it was popular in a way that was unparalleled in entertainment... thus the fall from grace was so much more pronounced in season 5.
so in conclusion: pedro pascal
Yes.
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Charles Dance
Pedro Pascal, Charles Dance, Peter Dinklage, ... many actors had epic moments in this season.
The reason why season 4 was best cuz we finally got to know that LITTLEFINGER started the war of 5 kings almost singlehandedly and most people assumed that SANSA will now work with Littlefinger but just in season 5 DnD sold her to boltons and i was like WTF without planning why LF is selling her for God's sake sell her with a plan DUDE...
The show deviated from the books from s2 itself
Ikr they did littlefinger and varys so dirty
They went from Machiavelli to complete idiots in two seasons flat
@@babyramses5066 exactly bro there downfall started from season 5...
Even talking about a fictional character that way, "... without training ..." turns my stomach. I hope you grow out of that.
@@eddarby469 bro what can you expect i am clueless here he will never sell sansa to anyone in upcoming books i was just saying IF IF you want to sell whats your plan and all .... i shouldn't have tried to find a better way for this trash plot i accept
my mistake... i edited my comment
I wish they included the post Blackwater scene where they are dealing with captives and joffery hurts himself on the throne, leading Tywin to sit on the throne, but only on the first few steps. (The throne is massive in the books)
S01 will always be my favorite. Viserys, Khal Drogo, Robert, Ned. So many great characters and dialogue.
5:29 "Who has a better story than Bran the broken?"
Hot Pie! Facts
Literally every other character
Every other named character in the series.
Oh, and all the unnamed ones as well.
âSquashed by trial by combatâ... I see what you did there đ
I rewatched this after a year and was about to comment the same thing when I rediscovered this đ
Thank you for having the themes from game of thrones in the background throughout the video really made watching/listening to this 100 times better đ„°đ„°đ
Having Reigns of Castmere play in the background was great idea.
Olenna Tyrell tells Margery that she killed Joffrey during season 4. The audience doesn't have to wait for season 7 to find out. Aslo Rose is the actor, the character is Ygritte.
Also Little Finger tells Sansa when he gets her out of KL that he played a role in that too
I'd completely forgotten about this show----thanks for reminding me about it :(
No matter the season, Ramon Djawadi killed it.
8:15 : 'our hope is squashed' very good choice of words
'by the end of season 3, things were a little too calm,'
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A great analysis but I would nuance it. It's true that this season contains some of the best moments from the books : death of Joffrey, Tyrion's trial, Oberyn vs The Mountain, Tywin's death, besides several revelations. However, these events were diluted in ten episodes even if they span only throughout one third of a book, contrary to season 3 which was covering the two thirds (the irony is that season 5 covers two entire books in the same amount of episodes). So their impact was diminished compared to the book: for instance, Tyrion's trial and Oberyn vs The Mountain was in the same chapter in the book, while in the show they are separated by two episodes. Arrived then the 'filler' material, with the fail rescue of Theon by Yara, plus all the Night Watch arc prior to the battle (with the other guy with the skull which was a very bad villain) just to put the battle of the Wall at episode 9. Battle which was, imo, kinda disappointing: it became more 'good vs bad' guys and accumulated Hollywood clichés. The best example lies in Ygrid's death. In the book, Jon only found her after the battle and never knows who killed her (maybe one of his friends). In the show we know who is the killer, they even put a justification for her murder (i.e. a child who wanted to avenge his dead parents), which felt unnecessary and reinforced the manicheism in the battle, and Ygritte dies in a very tropy way during the battle itself...
But yeah it was still much better than the upcoming seasons, but there were several signs that D & D weren't able to correctly handle things when they don't adapt book material.
One of the best and most dramatic fight scenes in history. It was awesome to watch the Mountain and the Viper
God damn! At the end when you were talking about Oberyn I got goosebumps and nearly cried, again.
This was my favorite season out of the whole series next to season 1.
Tywin, Tyrion, Cersei, Margaery, Littlefinger, Varys and even Goffrey all perfectly written in this season
i always thought it was and now you've given the reasons why it was. thank you
So well done! Thanks for this analysis.
I just love the subtle Force Theme thrown in when talking about Tywin... One can say he's the Darth Vader of Game of Thrones...
Yeah like I wondered through the whole video like: why do I hear the Force Theme?
Itâs bittersweet watching this.
I know thatâs GoT music in the background but at one point that repeats I swear I hear the violin playing the opening notes of the Star Wars IV The Force Theme.
Brilliant breakdown of all the so many aspects that did make this the best season!
Now I remember why I loved
"GameOfThrones".........
19:37 What a great shot ... Varys in disbelief and Dany feeling the pain.
"Jon is struggling with both his love for the free folk, and Rose".
I think thats the cutest slipup Ive seen someone make with this show :D
11:28 The musics omg. Game of Thrones was good man !
makes me sad to think about how good it used to be
@@debrickashaw9387 It's insane, idk if the prequels will ever be watched or aired not if they are going to have an audience.
I remember yelling when Oberyn died. I thought it's all over...Tyrion is going to die and the Lannisters were going to reign supreme. Little did I know D&D would kill everything this show worked for.
Amazing video. Amazing analysis!
Fantastic video! In my opinion this is the best season of television history (or at least what I have watched) it is absolutely superb from start to finish without a minute of wasted screen time, and I have always found myself speeding through it at extreme pace
Season 4 also has 4 of the best episodes of all time with The Lion and The Rose, The Laws of God's and Men, The Mountain and The Viper, and The Watchers on The Wall.