Why Palpatine HATED Darth Vader's Red Lightsaber(CANON) - Star Wars Comics Explained
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- We all know that Darth Sidious was not in love with lightsabers, in fact he only wielded them just as a spite to the weakness of the Jedi that rely on them and this ultimately led him to the Sith convert, his student Darth Vader.
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I like how palpatine thinks that he’s smart and powerful for killing and surpassing his master, but he’s always skeptical of his apprentices overthrowing him, as stated in the code of the sith.
The code of the Sith is pure nonsense to me...why would sociopathic and narcissistic beings deliberately choose an apprentice that it supposed to kill them?
@@harlandeke someone to place ur will upon
@@harlandeke Many reasons. As a trophy. A tool. An extension of your own power. A disposable pawn. A vessel for your reincarnation. A controlled threat to keep you focused on increasing your own strength. A monument to your legacy. A sex-partner that doesn't break when you squeeze it. Whatever works for you.
@@harlandeke Its because of those very reasons that the rule of two was instated as being a dark side force user, those individuals would be endlessly power hungry and would create so much infighting that it would counteract any goals they would have of defeating the Jedi and ruling the galaxy.
It also helped the Sith grow stronger as the force wouldn't be spread out among so many users and the act of being Alpha meant that they were made to stay on top of their game in an effort to survive any attempt their apprentice would have on their life.
It’s kind of a forced tradition. The master will pick someone to become powerful, a bit like a trophy but also like a pet. I don’t believe any master truly believes the apprentice is more power than him, until the apprentice slaughters them. Like you say sociopathic narcissistic people can’t imagine anyone else being better than them. When the apprentice attacks, the master will fight for his life. Power decides the fate.
Sidious-'Touch me with the force again, and I shall do what Obi-wan could not.'
Vader-*later picks Palps up an yeets him into a pit with his own two hands.*
Well... he didn't use the force...
he used the force of leverage & gravity
@@200cfu The high ground.
"Hand"
Never mess with a man's family...
He used force, but he didn't use force
Sidious is a lunatic, I think deep down he tortured Vader that way because he was scared of him
He was definitely scared that, even despite being injured, Vader had the power to eventually overthrow him, yes. As much as Sidious believed in the Sith, he did NOT believe in the Rule of Two. Sidious was in a way a corruption of the Sith; he viewed HIMSELF as the Sith - the only truly necessary Sith, anyway. Even though he knew a natural part of the Sith Code was that the student would one day murder the Master, he was afraid of this, and afraid of Vader's potential. He wanted to live forever as the sole Sith, perhaps using Vader as a weapon or as his eyes and ears in the Galaxy.
So yes, he was afraid of Vader. He knew Vader still had the potential to be more powerful than him. Keeping him down, messing with his already severely depressed mind was a way of keeping him on a leash. Because he was afraid of what Vader might be capable of without any sort of leash.
Well He is a high functioning Psychopath that is properly paranoid about other people including Vader. He knew how dangerous Vader can be. For Vader is a proper Sith Juggernaut. there is a difference in being afraid and being cautious. Sidious is very cautious around Vader and let him know whom is top dog within the Empire and within the Sith.
me? scared of vader? never!
@@DeathScepter Does anyone here think that there is a possibility that disnet will make films that go 100,000 years after Episode IX?
@@Obiwan7100 well it has potential if there is a good story to it. Familar enough to be Star Wars while giving something new.
Darth Vader has been practicing crash landings his entire life. You can't kill him by crashing his ship.
Another happy landing!
His entire life was a crash landing
@@wilhufftarkin8543 haloo dere
@@wilhufftarkin8543 As you wish.
The same person that sent Vader on a whole comic arc to make his red lightsaber
Palpatine: You know that thing I said that sith and Jedi use because they can't use the force properly?
Vader: yeah.
Palpatine: go make yourself one.
Just because Darth Sidious did not like lightsabers does not mean that he did not see the value of having them and using them. They are powerful weapons.
@@mikekazz5353 well Vader’s suit blocks most of his force power that he might have, he would’ve been a much better sith had he not been “killed” by obi
@@monkeybandit222 palpatine didnt want that tho, he wanted an apprentice who was capable but not a threat to him
@@jim8171 honestly I think if Ankin had let Luke take him on the ship, he might’ve lived and recovered but idk. He prob would’ve died on the way since his “lungs” were broken
Me at the lightsaber shop, "Can you color match this?"
Armorer: "Sir, that is a jar of Cheez-Whiz"
Me: "Exactly."
That is cursed as hell
Perfect
I feel like Palpatine would only hate the design of the lightsaber hilt itself, since it resemble so much of Anakin's first lightsaber in attack of the clones.
Sidious: Hates Lightsaber
Meanwhile: used a lightsaber to offend the Jedi and use it for battles.
he wanted to humiliate them
Not that he hates Lightsabers but the Sith are supposed to be So Powerful that they do not even need a Lightsaber, Plagues disdained Lightsaber combat considering it to tedious an affair and it was he who instilled that teaching into his disciple Sidious
I don’t remember what’s canon anymore and what’s not. I remember reading about Vader and Palpatine getting shot down on Ryloth and Palpatine going nuts with the lightsaber on some predator animals
@@02grad "Plagueis was also skilled in lightsaber combat, although he disdained using his blade in combat, regarding lightsaber duels as tedious affairs; Tenebrous viewed his apprentice as a master of the art. He was able to run so fast during his duel with Venamis that an onlooker would have thought him a thunderbolt racing through the trees.[1] Plagueis had on one occasion utilized Jar'Kai on Bal'demnic.[5] Skilled in the more unorthodox applications of the Force, he was skilled in conjuring Force illusions, convincing enough to fool even Sidious.[1]"
@@02grad star wars legends+Comics+First 6 movies: Cannon
else:
Non canon
This guy writes scripts like he’s got to reach a word count
😂
He does, it's called the 8 minute mark that gets him ads
Yea he stretches every answer the question he is answering in a video to the point that I ask at the end if he even answered the question. So uh did he answer it btw?
Edit: oh yeah he doesn't like it because it will remind vader of his jedi past.
For real 😂 love this channel but I'll admit it does get a little annoying
@@AmaryIIion I heard that the Palpatine hates Darth Vader's the lightsaber because he relies too much on it. Hence, why he mockingly asks where his lightsaber is while electrocuting him. Palpatine mentions Vader's past to push him more towards the dark side. It reminds him of his defeat at the hands of Obi-wan.
Originally, the explanation for the red blade was that the Jedi controlled all or most of the locations where Kyber crystals formed. The sith had to produce synthetic crystals for their blades and that process always resulted in a red crystal. They liked the color as a symbol of their order and kept it up even as the Jedi were scattered. The death star used Giant Kybers in it's main weapon and the beam is green so they could get Natural kyber crystals but preferred the red ones for personal use. The synthesized crystal explanation is more straightforward and pragmatic but I will concede that here is a certain mystique to the "bleeding the crystal" thing, though, that fits the sith mindset. The real reason for the colors was to provide contrast for the optics of the film. For example, Luke's green blade was used in Jedi because they found that a blue blade was impossible to make out against the blue sky; particularly in the Sarlac pit battle. It was also easier to tell who's blade was doing what in other fight scenes like Obi Wan vs Vader in the first movie. The lore that evolved from the Light saber blade colors is pretty fascinating.
I think the reason that The death star had a green kyber crystal is that it would be too dangerous to make it bleed
The Fact that Vader landed the damaged ship with only piloting skill rather than the force is incredible.
i mean this is why i love star wars comunity....smart comments with logical thinking
he was known as a great pilot so of course
“He was the best star pilot in the galaxy”
“He sensed Vader’s angst” 😂
I found it an interesting detail that the design of Darth Vader’s lightsaber hilt greatly resembles his old hilt from when he was Anakin Skywalker. Almost as if there’s a little bit of Anakin still left inside.
Vader believed in the force and lightsabers too. When fighting a cyborg using 4 lightsabers who mocked him for using only a single, single bladed saber he responded "When you wield the power of the dark side, one lightsaber is all you need."
Vader fought grevious?
@@moonshine588grievous was dead by the time Vader was born, this is mostly likely another, like the cyborg from Mando, but with a bit more force Knowledge
Palpatine hates red lightsabers
Also Palpatine I hate the sith
He hates everyone equally. He thinks he is better than Sith, Jedi and the galaxy.
@@DeathScepter Reminds me of Valkorion
@@ThePalkiaTrainer valkorion is based on palpatine.
He hates everything and everyone
@@drunkbastard3466 Well He hates everyone because he think that everyone is inferior to him. What do you do think with a High Functioning Psychopath with Sith Training that has a god complex.
Am I crazy or is this edited weird? I found it jolting, LOL.
You're not.
At least the final forth of the video is out of order (scene starts with Sideous shocking Vader who is kneeling. Then at the end, suddenly he was attached to the operating table, and Sideous STARTS shocking him.
Other people are also saying that apparently this is just to or three older videos spliced together and re-edited.
Feels like 2 different videos put together
Engage in pirate editing, fix it and re up
I felt the same way
Ya this is literally all over the place
“He’s litttttterally the best pilot in the entire Galaxy”
“Let’s cut his breaks hurrrrrr durrrrrr”
Soontir Fel
I like how everyone hates Anakin/Vader. Like anything he does the jedi judge him or sidiouss judges him. Like dang my boy, hes truly alone.
Only Obi Wan, Padma, Ahsoka, Luke, his mother, and R2 are the only ones who loved him.
This is the curse of being chosen. Everyone only saw that side of his power, and ignored the human being. Well not everyone, but most people did.
Lord Vader and palpatine had a interesting master and student relationship
Yea it shows you how cold Palpatine really is
@@thechosenone3061 I honestly always wanted for Vader to kill palpatine
Yea me too but he couldn't Palpatine had unlimited power
U mean enforcer cause there was nothing vader learned from sidious
@@Akeno0002 if he didn’t learn anything then he would’ve been the same way he was when he was a Jedi which we know isn’t true
This video is a mess lol.
i think when palpatine said “NO” he was saying “INCORRECT” i dont think he was angry, more like he was saying “trick question it never belonged to you, vader, it belongs to anakin who is dead”
Good point
Why did u start at a later issue then jump to an earlier issue with no explanation?
Even with that narrative you stitched together, he never showed distaste for his red lightsaber. In fact he was pleased with the new hilt and sent him to construct it
Star wars videos have such odd subjects to make videos on haha. "why jar jar binks was particular to yodas grandsons shoe laces, but felt compelled to share his biscuits with chewbacca". Like... Wut. Keep em coming tho
ur high
😅
@@JonBeDoinThings yeah probably
I believe there's two reasons why, one reason is to hit that 8 minute mark for ads, and two is there isn't to much star wars content to talk about that's to interesting anymore.
"Why Obi Wan secretly shidded his pants when he was captured in Geonosis?"
Conclusion : They hated each other's lightsaber
Honestly, no matter how evil Sidious was, he was a very good and manipulative teacher. He was even better than yoda. And that, that is why the Sith were so strong, and why the Empire rose with Sidious.
That kinda explains why Palpatine isn't using his Red Lightsaber in Return of the Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker.
I think old age had a role in that too.
Tell that to Lego Star Wars
@@kingmitchum lego Star Wars is true cannon
@Haljordan4life Atleast Dark Empire was a great comic series
@Haljordan4life exactly that’s why George Lucas made that legends unlike Disney
It's strange to think how Sidious went from father figure to sadistic torturer.
And how he effortlessly goes back and forth, even when Vader was in the suit.
He was never a father figure. That’s manipulation.
@@Trash2000s yeah but that's how Anakin saw him so to do a 180 like that would have been jarring. Anakin as Vader maybe expecting comfort after Padme's loss and instead getting electro shock therapy.
@@apollyonkatastrefia1586 word. Most definitely.
This really didn't answer much about why he hated Vader's RED saber. It was more of a synopsis of another video you did describing how Vader got his new saber. Somewhat of a let down
I really wish for a High Republic world-building issue where we learn how Vader's predecessors acquired their red blades. Vader sort of had it easy; he was out openly hunting Jedi survivors, who had no Ordervto support them. Sidious, Plagueis, and Tenebrous had to find their Jedi conveniently, and kill them without drawing attention to themselves, while knowing that the Order would eventually determine their fate. Who did the eccentric starship designer, or the philanthropic banker, hunt down and kill? Where did they bleed their crystals? Did the Jedi note how these Knights died? Were killed, and their lightsabers taken? I think Sidious had to wait several decades to make his saber. I wonder what Jedi met their end at that sociopath's power? He also had several sabers, so did he have to kill a handful of Jedi? Was he a Senator by this point? I know it is not important, but it's the kind of support content I just really love to see.
sith and jedi alike had planets they could go to where they could find and harvest Kyber crystals. the sith preferred to kill jedi and bleed their crystals but if they had no other choice they could track them down the same way a jedi could. Kyber crystals to my knowledge are also invisible to people who are not force sensitive.
It is funny given how Vader hated Sidious' saber as well. I haven't watched the video yet and am not sure if that was given a mention. He was forced to use it a few times in extreme situations where they were both in real danger.
@@reecemota4028 He hates it because it's super fancy and ornate. Vader sees lightsabers as a tool, not a status symbol. Even when he was Anakin, his lightsabers were very rugged and practical with no thought put into aesthetics.
0:26, Emperor: I like Ur cut G....
I love when Palpatine actually stops being evil to just teach Vader stuff word by word LMAO
I wish we had a Canon comic where vader reminds palpy of who he is.
I just realized that Rey and Palpatine had a thing for taking lightsabers away from people, particularly Vader and Kylo Ren. Rey takes after her grandfather.
And kylo takes after his...
@@l.d.cfilms4363 oof
Rey IS NOT a Skywalker
Rey IS NOT a Skywalker
Is it ever explained how he managed to get busy?
This literally never mentions why palps hated Vaders saber.
Ya, it seems like he was just happy Vader lost the blue one, wouldn't that mean he would be happy with vader's new red one?
I always think of Vader as being old, slow, all knowing, methodical. one forgets hes a young man still with much to learn under the helmet in many of these comics/lore, does it say anywhere how old he was when he became Vader?
Just look up his birth date and the date the emperor announced the first galactic Republic. Easy peasy
He was 22 when he became vader
About the same time he was a teenager when he was Anakin. Which is shortly after he killed Padme from anger. So teenage yets. About early twenties.
The question is how long has he been Vader at this point. Looks like before Rouge One went down. Much sooner. With the way Vader is showing confusion and assuming it seems he's still getting into the groove of "Showing no doubt". This is a Vader before his prime.
I don’t think it was hate for the lightsaber,
I think it’s because Vader answered the question as Anakin, not Vader.
Anakin fought & lost to Obi, but VADER did not, and Vader was not Anakin.
That's what I thought too.
Until kenobi
Why is this video cut so awkwardly? Is this 3 videos spliced together?
This whole channel when there's no new content
This is just how his videos are. If you actually pay attention, most of his "new" videos are just re uploads of the same content with different editing.
I could barely follow along and by the end I had no idea what any of this had to do with his thesis of The Emperor hating Vader's red lightsaber. All he did was describe some scenes in the comic with little to no greater context. And the editing was jarring as hell. I feel like I actually know less than when I clicked on this video.
@@MadTheDJ 🤝
Why do you keep reposting old videos. Literally just sliced two vids together and made this one.
He needs that money
It not even spliced correctly. The end segments are put of order. Lmao
In my opinion they aren't even very good to begin with. The biggest gripe I have is his "translation" style, where he states a lot of the events point for point and includes many unnecessary details. But it's also not done for all of the events. Just some of them. Idk. It's probably just a personal preference for videos talking about stories like these to instead be summarized, and often with some analysis.
Sidious WAS into the Rule of two, but after over and over defeats of his apprentices he gave up. With Yoda he said thay Darth Vader will become more powerful than them both, so he believed in him, after his defeat he said "oh, come on....I will do it myself" and thats why he wants to be only one Sith.
After hearing Sidious whine about how "weak" he made Vader, I find myself genuinely craving a canon vision of Darth Vader with no more cybernetics than Anakin had at the start of episode 3. I would love to see the sheer terror that would his raw power would create, you just know it would be badass
Sidious is fronting. In a canon novel set 5 years after Revenge of the Sith he thinks to himself Vader is stronger than before the suit. The writers confirmed canon Vader lacking limbs doesn’t hinder him at all either.
Except maybe making lighting unusable for him. I haven’t seen him or anyone mention him not using force lightning in canon.
I think Sidious surpassed Vader around A New Hope though.
Vader tried to rebel after Empire Strike Back and his defeat caused him to accept his place and legit try to kill Luke if he doesn’t turn to the dark side.
0:11 this is what I believe characters like Palpy and Yoda should've been like in the prequels and both clone wars shows. Not duelists, but powerful with just their knowledge and expertise of the force alone.
Yoda is the third best duelist from the movies, surpassed only by Kenobi and Windu.
Vader: Ships blows up
Also Vader: This is where the fun begins
Sidious' face in this comic... brilliant.
Their relationship is so wholesome, in an insufferably evil sort of way. There's a reason these two became the most successful Sith in the history of the galaxy.
They're just so *purely* sith, together.
It isn't wholesome at all, it's abusive.
@@looksirdroids9134 It is wholesome. *From a certain point of view.*
@@looksirdroids9134 That's your own fear and weakness talking. If you can't deal with abuse then you can't survive in the worst. If Sidious is hard on Vader it's for a reason.
Put up or roll over. Deal with it or wallow in despair. You'd likely wallow and whine.
Sidious and Tyranus were more successful. Vader was just an enforcer. Dooku ruled half the galaxy and oversaw and helped orchestrate the most crucial parts of the plan. Vader by comparison had very little to do and Sidious never trusted him with even 25% of the responsibility that Dooku had.
Kinda tom brady and bellichick vibes.
Nobody:
Palpatine: Electrocutes vader*
So in summary: People in the Star Wars universe hates everything in Star Wars.
It's a Sith thing. Hatred gives them power. they look for excuses to hate anything because it makes them stronger. The thing is The Sith Creed is not actually evil. It literally just encourages you to embrace your emotions and gain strength from them. The fact they all choose NEGATIVE emotions always struck me as rather limiting.
@@theo-jamesmoulton2000 Welp, I guess I'm the weakest Sith cause I don't hate anyone in my life.
@@michealnotmichael6595 Hate's highly overrated.
@@theo-jamesmoulton2000 It really is! And grudges, when held on to, only hurt yourself. I know that sounds cliched, but it is one that happens to be true! :)
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Ur editing is peak quality
Wow, Palpatine seems like he has more respect for Jocasta than his own apprentice.
If darth sidious didn’t like people who used their lightsabers instead of the force. They he must’ve Loathed dooku. He’s literally known for his dueling skills.
Starting to get the feeling Palpatine doesn’t like Vader...
Palpatine didn't like him calling it a 'laser sword', which Anakin did since he was little.
"Darth Sidious knows how to temper his force lightning"
Rey: "I pretend I did not hear that"
??? Why did Sidious hate his red saber? You never said.
He probably a purple one like Samuel Jackson.
He did say it, in the beginning of the episode.He judges sith by their power with be force and hates lightsaber combat
Lmaoo right??
Ya, this feels like a video for the sake of a video
Sometimes this channel answers what the video is about Sometimes he doesnt...
Yo! New sub here and loving the new respect for palp tganks to u
4:35 I couldn't help but notice that there was a bit of a cut-off from one part to another that seemed a bit too mashed up together.
Was the last half part of a different video that was put in by accident?
Sidious killed and absorbed the power of plagious, of course he would be worried about Vader murdering him from the rule of two
No wonder he barely used his lightsabers
He hates lightsabers
Zap
It's good to see that some things never change Anakin Darth Vader whatever name he went by he was always terrible at holding on to lightsabers
This video was uploaded out of order, or some editing /upload error occurred
They need to make a Vader series of him in his prime
Every recommended Star Wars video: "Why this guy HATED this guys lighstaber"
Now I understand when Vader told Luke " You don't know the power of the dark side. I MUST obey my master. (Because he can fry me like a pork chop on a grill.)
Lol
1:26 another happy landing
I believe imo, Palpatine should've just told Vader to get a new and better lightsaber.
1:30 another happy landing
-calls down the shaft.-
" DIDN'T USE THE FORCE, MASTER!"
Vader: You have barely taught me about the Sith beliefs and creed, and nothing about their techniques, yet expect me to follow them by the book, you sick lunatic?
Sidious: I do not test
Everyone ever: 🤔🤔🤔
Sideous gave Vader Corporal punishment. Capital punishment is a death sentence.
Insidiously wholesome..🧐 in a way.
anakin should have disengaged from obi-wan and trained for a future battle. palpatine: "you were unable to defeat master kenobi, my apprentice." vader: "no, my lord....btw, how did things work out with master yoda for you?"
Capital punishment is when you kill the victim. Unless you meant that as a pun, because Palpatine is the head of state.
Maybe Vader's saber hilt looked like a certain intergalactic trophy hunter's plasma weapon
Sidious is a lunatic with a dog he has personally overseen the torture of, ensuring this dog is scared of him, so it will direct its anger at anyone else.
Next on starwars lore accounts: *why the entire starwars universe hated every lightsaber (canon)*
The ninth sister! She’s also in fallen order, I didn’t know she was also in these comics
Sidious's method is if you want a powerful weapon such as Vader is now you must temper that weapon to the point of absolute from a blunt piece of metal to a ultra sharp wakizashi that can cut through any armor or sword in battle to learn both mentally physically and as well as spiritually he made lord vader into a smart cunning stronger sith lord by this method to make him forget his past but also not to forget as in to temper his use in the force to remember to fuel his hatred his rage but also control it like how he can control his lightning giving vader the lesson in control as well which vader has used on many ocassions to fool his enemies into false security then whammm vader destroys them, all thanks to the many methods of darth sidious.
What if Vader pulled a really fast one on Palpatine while he was handing him the saber? Like cutting his hand diagonally so he feels insane amounts of pain, and just rapier stab him in the heart, quick moves really, you know? How would the galaxy turn out?
Everyone: let's use lightsabers :D
Also everyone: f*** that thing
So we are going to ignore how much Palpatine enjoyed fighting Maul and Savage?
He could have just juiced them with force lightning, but he wanted to get his hands dirty.
there was a reason for that. maul prided himself on his combat prowess. sidious wanted to show him his skill at combat pailed in comparision to his own it was his way to taking even more from darth maul. to humilate him and hummble him.
That lightsaber was his life
According to Tarkin at least.
Has palpatine and Vader ever duel with Lightsabres in anything ... training etc ? Anyone know
One would think thatThe youngling slayer 3000 would have quite the darkside aura about it 🤔🤔
Yes
Futile lessons if he keep him yet as a puppet. This one has been made for much more.
Is that the same helmet in force unleashed in the last ending when star killer is turned into a sith death cyborg.
gadamn, Palps with the lightning fetish
Maybe invest in some fuses Vader?
palpatine to lightsabers: so uncivilized
The rule of two kind of screwed Sidious over. Vader is absolutely strong, but entirely lacking in some Sith arts. Meaning that if he becomes the master, those arts die out, but no other apprentice can ever hope to take Vader's position, as he is too strong. Also lacking in the field of politics, sith sorcery, people manners, intrigue and a lot more that would be need for leading the Empire. Meaning that the Sith Empire would shortly becoming nothing, after Vader is a master.
I love his lightsaber
He hated the lightsaber, but he loved the helmet polished with woodoo hide!
Been over a year since I watched anything Star Wars. Time to catch up.
Studious: you reach, I teach.
Is there a video of Vader making his new lightsaber?
4:15 Vader has a Halo now ey?
Good. Gooooooooooood!
Now. Fulfill your destiny
I thought Palpatine on the thumbnail snorted coke.