How Ants and Bees Broke the Game
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A top tier class complaining about another class being busted, TZ is truly a gamer.
@Newcious Nobody will remember you.
And not only a top tier but THE top tier class complaining about other class.
@@mauriciokenway9922 Ants have more biomass on this planet than humans, also probably cover more ground, so they are more successful in those metrics.
@@CheeseOfMasters yes but if humans decided to they could wipe half the class on a whim, human class is still top tier while ants are simply viable when playing coop
@@mauriciokenway9922 Depends on how you define winning the game. I dont think humans are THE top class. To say they are just plays into their designflaws of thinking they are the center of the universe, pinnacle of creation.
Never realized just how much ant and bee eusociality breaks the game. And to think the devs have been letting them get away with these broken builds for 100 million+ years...
Hey it's Curious Archive! Love your videos by the way!
I think they're calling it a feature now
Peak fiction youtuber😤😤😤😤
We busted the game wide open by mastering the tech tree over evolutionary stat bumps. Our build doesn't need exploits to be viable, dude. Unless the devs add growth to the next expansion, i doubt they will overtake our position in the leaderboard.
The game devs have brought a huge nerf to these exploiters already:
The long term solution is global warming. Sadly the recent patches have only contributed to the dying of very specialized and laid back groups,
The tryhard factions like the red fire ants or yellow crazy ants are already coming up with new exploits. One Bee faction is now respecing to be Africanized “Killer” Bees, which shows their desperation. We can only hope the Wasps will be left out in the next patches, to stop the terror of their new and upgraded yellow jacket.
This guy is such a genius
explaining nature using gaming terms making it understandable AND interesting
True, I actually have zero intrest and knowledge in gaming but these videos are still highly entertaining to watch
Gamer English is becoming this weird pseudo-dialect in the same way Legalese is technically English, and it’s interesting how gamer terminology makes knowledge transfer more efficient with all the shorthand words.
He also does it in such a way where the gaming terms don’t distract or cover up true facts that much; he doesn’t like make up stuff just to make it work for the terminology
first time? *meme*
It’s great for younger kids as well, I think this approach should be utilized in kindergartens.
If anyone wonders what the parasitoid wasps do that is so disturbing, they will paralyze their prey before laying eggs on them, the prey is alive but in a permanent state of paralysis, so the larvae would hatch and literally eat the prey alive. (Source: Brave Wilderness, Tarantula Hawk)
Aaaaah I remember one time I found a bug that looked like a caterpillar… it could barely move or at least that’s what it was trying to do… anyways I decided to poke it with a stick and as soon as I touch its body, it cracked open and hundreds of tiny larvae came out from its insides… aaggg it literally traumatized me ( i was 8 or 10 years old) and I could never get that image off my head
Alien…
Propably what xenomorph was based on
some species can even enthral the larvae.
They turn you into a mother and a meal. I think it's sweet in a hannibal kinda way
That was a really nice explanation of how eusociality breaks down normal natural selection processes. Just by changing how genetic information is passed on, the math of the objective itself switches.
Hymenopterans be like: Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions
I'm glad the info came across well enough to be understood! It's a complicated topic so I was worried that the gaming jargon would obfuscate an already difficult point too much.
@@TierZoo Personally, the gaming terminology is much more understandable than the legitimate scientific terms which each have like a bajillion sub sections and etc
I wasn't expecting eusociality to be based on changing the genetics math, i just assumed the queen intentionally only birthed infertile females to the only way to keep their genetic code going was to serve the queen. I didn't realize that the sisters were 75% the same making them closer than they are to their own children, which really changes the math on how to best pass on your genes.
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@@TierZoo can now send this to explain during my cool caste infodumps to explain the relatedness theory
Imagine spawning as an ant, one of the most powerful and viable insect classes ever, just to be used as a literal barrel
@what now wtf is that
44 likes yo I'm famous
80 likes wtf
Or as a glue gun in the case of weaver* ants.
It matters not. I life and die by the colony.
Have you ever played Goths?
@@hundred-eyedmonster1160 a family of spam channels that have been crippling a lot of comments section lately
"Every player needs to respect them as a threat"
Me with a marine build: i have no weakneses
Marine build is a great counter for this types build
Flying eusocial builds like to wait for their pray outside the water, so amphibian builds are in big trouble, while with full marine builds usually have no problem unless they're also mammals
never heard of a marine frog.
@@mattoiles_9641 i think a dolphin cannot live in ponds and bees cannot stay so much long in the sea. If they are a full marine build, they usually come to sea, where a more competitive meta offers more rewards (with some River builds as an exception)
Wasps stuck in pools able to still sting: *Drowning anger never dies noises*
I love how you used the darkest dungeon fear effect to show their intimidation stat
I like how the music in the beginning was the intro for the godskin apostles.
Everyone always forgets the termites, they invented eusociality, agriculture, climate control, standing militaries, and more but the upstart ants always get the credit.
And have crazy castes organization with all those different types of queens and kings like ergatoids and nymphoids...
Also they have gender equality
They are not from the same species. They are more closely related with beatles than ants or wasp....
Termites are more basal, less aggresive and less dangerous. Not to mention that they are not as widespread as ants wasps and bees.
@@jiekimbuous holy shit, based bugs
Calling scientists "dataminers" has to be one of the more clever things I've heard here. Great stuff man.
I love it.
Considering the dataminer that made the knowledge of passing down code more widespread only did so after his character's offspring spawned with debuffs because of the "incest" mating style in humans, I'd say they're doing good work.
ok
@@BlazingShadowSword So science started.. because the first scientist.. fucked his family?
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It's great that you used hornet's theme from hollow knight as the music in parts, considering the theme of the video
cultured.
and the Hollow Knight font too!
Shes actually a spider team cherry made the lore a lot more confusing with the name.
@@chezfry I forgot that she isn't a bug 😂
A fellow gentlefolk of culture, Doma Doma to you my good man 🪲🎩
2:13 I don't know why but I find this moment incredibly hilarious. It's like three friends just messing around with the launch and physics mechanics.
An ant tier list would be really good
he needs to collaborate with Ants Canada for that!
@@reavl6494 OH HELL YES!
"What's up AC family, today we're talking about OVERPOWERED ANT BUILDS."
"You get an S, you get an S ..."
Man, ants are SO cool!
There are so many ants to cover up
That video will be juicy
"the game is being played less like an RPG and more like an RTS.." honestly that's an amazing analogy haha
supreme commander bee edition
Still want him to comment this clip
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Yeah that stuck with me. Interesting implications for the human race too.
I am a dumbo what does Rts mean
@@hohoboi8719 Real time strategy.
Age of empires is an example of such a game in that genre.
This actually is a really common type of exploit in a lot of games, entirely disregarding something that seems really important to most players (in this case size and HP) in order to spend all your available points into OP abilities that you could never combine otherwise or unlock that early.
Except any Game with a Minimum of difficulty that punishes you for having low hp
@@jesussanjose2664just don't get hit 😔
@@jesussanjose2664stop fat rolling. Just take the armor off for better s
Would be interested in a rating of the mantis shrimp build and other related builds; as the mantis shrimp has some of the most unique perks of any build in the aquatic server
I think they broke the game too. Hackers from another Meta imo.
Modded attacks
We don't support hackers here. They have maxed STR stats & quickdraw ability
@@NickSibz: mantis shrimp are hackers
Mantis Shrimp: lol, get good scrub
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Tier zoo already has a video on them!
An ant tier list woulr be really good. Even though most of their playstyles are the same, there are some species that are clearly better than the others and have different strategies or abilities.
Yes please
Think bullet ant may be a tier
And leaf maybe a s teirs
The best ant build is definitely the chimera ant, combining their eusociality with human intelligence is definitely a meta warping build.
the S+ tier is the ant whose head is a door, without him an ant nest is everyone's nest
@@YuniversalYT human intelligence?bro please, ain't no ant aeroplanes, ant animes, ant radio signals...
"It essentially changes the game, from being an action RPG, to being an RTS."
That's an extremely *clear* way to sum up the entire subject, really.
WHAT THE WHAT??? i am over 100 years old and still making youtub videos? oh yeah baby. why? because i am the ultimate youtuber. woo woo woo you know it dear waya
@@AxxLAfriku*It seems as if the bot is having a stroke. Which doesn‘t really make sense considering he is a program and nothing more.*
Amogus
@@deadchannellollol that might just be there as an intended error to make it seem like a human typed it
@@roberine7241 It just comes off as someone having a schizo moment
I’d like to hear you talk about how the Argentinian ant supercolonies have exploited this even further with the way they entered other servers leading to a lack of in fighting between their colonies on invaded servers allowing them to heavily out compete other ants in the area.
Actually a video covering the major effects of server switching invasive species in general would be interesting.
South American parrots settling into North American cities should go here too - one particularly fascinating case is monk parakeets in Chicago building their characteristic gigantic multi-chamber stick nests on top of active electrical equipment, giving them both heat and insulation to survive astonishingly brutal Chicago winters!
Playing as a worker ant is so fun, being able to not have the common breeding main quest makes a lot more time for fun, while also the spawn availability is so big, so everyone can just do a suicidal attack at a powerful enemy and still spawn as a new ant not very long after.
Normal players: Ugh, I need to survive!
Ant players: LET'S DIE BY THE THOUSANDS FOR THE GLORY OF THE HIVE
Incels really need to stop taking their anger out on the world
I'm doing the 'play through Elden Ring' side quest right now and hearing the death sound at the beginning brought so many painful memories back
Back? You should be living them still, game came out like yesterday.
This man went to Nokstela and decided to make video about ant
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
“I am Malenia. Blade of Miquella.”
I'm not a biologist, so I'll just stick to pointing out that this is a great analogy of eusociality and game theory. Great job!
Not an analogy. You may need to read the selfish gene.
@@FilosSofo I'm thinking he meant analysis
Not only does it make it more entertaining, but also easier to digest. The comparison between nature and gaming seems to be one that this guy has gotten really good at now.
I'm also not a biologist, yet somehow I'm able to distinguish a bee from a wasp
I am not a biologist, but blabla women
I never understood how so many players could collaborate for something that goes against the main objective until I watched this. the way you describe it is perfect!
Man I remember discovering this through the super smash subreddit when this was a super tiny channel and now it's HUUUGE! Big congrats man! Haven't checked it out in a while but it really shows how much dedication has gone into it. Everything good about it back then has gotten even better. The throwbacks to oldskool games blend seamlessly into the educational narrative that doesn't even feel meme-y, it's simply become a legitimate language to talk about how lit nature is, which in turn underlines the transferable nature of 'game logic'. I'm sure you're aware but I am pretty confident that this channel might actually be highly impactful in shaping the next generation of biologists, even if it's only by being extremely successful in nurturing passionate curiosity in the current generation of the modern youth. Cheers!
Let me just say, as someone who studies honeybee behavior and is also an avid video game fan, watching this video and also discovering your channel has been the *highlight* of my career.
Welcome!
You must be new to the internet
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GOP vs Queer;
an amazing video by 'Some MOre News' that i warmly recommend all my fellow
Zoo-Fans.
What is the main goal of Outside?
Normie players: “Survive and reproduce!”
Human mains with god-tier INT:
“What *IS* the main goal of Outside?”
Their INT stat is so high that they start asking stupid questions
Humans get so bored they seriously try to get 110% completion...
@@Daniel_45 So high that they start questioning their own existence, which is indeed a pretty stupid question -- the sidequest "Outer Wilds" taught me that the goal of Outside is to have fun :) Enjoy your playthrough while you're here, because the servers *will* shut down one day, and that's okay. We had a great time together, didn't we?
That's true!
Bees/Hymetherions: OK let's survive and reproduce by helping our Queen (Our Glorious Leader) by gathering food so she can clone herself or her grubs and so we can continue building our dominions!
Also Bees/Hymetherions: "Damn Bears! Stealing our food-"
(Later) *Damn Bears! I stab you! Stab Stab*
Those ants really snapped that dragonfly’s neck.
My mom won’t let me watch this video because of the violence but I just want to say that this is one of my favorite channels! Keep doing what you’re doing :D
Ur mom is a bad mom. Sorry to tell you the truth.
L mom. This is hella entertaining and educating.
What violence? Its Nature
Its just nature, does she not let you outside or something? Plus its really educational
A bit too overprotective with a touch of control
But her heart is in the right place so its all good❤
Aside from the highly informative biology lessons explained eloquently with gaming terms, can we take a moment to appreciate how TierZoo's editing has improved a lot over the course of a few years? The amount of dedication put into his videos is genuinely unreal.
Personally some of the changes feel like a downgrade to me. The shift towards increasingly catchy and clickbaity titles and content feels like a break from the enjoyable mix of real world biology and video game speak that came from his earlier videos. Especially here when he is saying bees are op during a time they are in extreme crisis feels detrimental towards the reality of how fragile they are, and how important it is that we preserve them.
@@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7 Except that's not really true. The only reason that crisis exists is because of humans, the only creatures that can really oppose bees besides other bees. Humans spread the honey bee so much that a large amount of the planet has become dependent on them over the last few hundred years as they killed off native pollinator populations, so when something bad happens to one species of bee, it becomes a big deal. But overall the 'faction' is still doing extremely well and overall populations are still increasing even with humans fucking with them and a few species going down in numbers.
@@e4Bc4Qf3Qf7 oh I was mostly talking about his video editing skills. Compared to the early days of his CZcams channel, the quality of his editing has came a long way from where it started what with the more polished visual and audio. As an amateur video editor, I admire his improvement. I'm not sure that he's becoming more clickbaity though, he's titled some of his older videos with similar wording (e.g. "How humans broke the game" and "How Mosasurus broke the game" both from 2019). And personally I don't mind "clickbaits" as long as it actually delivers quality content which TierZoo does. I do agree to a certain degree about him seemingly glossing over the fact that the population of some bee species are decreasing, especially because he usually briefly mention it when a species is endangered. But eh, he could've just forgot to put it in the script, slip ups happen.
Yeah, it's amazing how much his videos have evolved.
TierZoo: "Hymenoptera is so cool with their unique eusociality"
Termites: "am I a joke to you?"
And let's not forget the naked mole rat
Yes yes they are
Ants are aesthetic, termites are gross
Termites are a couple buffs away from destroying human habits in the rural zones.
*Naked mole rats* :guys?
*Ambrosia beetles* :uh, guys..?
*snapping shrimp* : GUYS!
Heterocephalus glaber, Austroplatypus incompertus, Synalpheus regalis
I've seen quite a lot of players trying to specialize into a crab build lately, could you talk about it please ?
Crab mentality
The various music, be it RuneScape or Kingdom Hearts or some other on-theme tunes that you drop in at the perfect moments, really make these videos even better than they otherwise would. I feel nostalgic while I’m learning, AND it’s entertaining! Brilliant.
"It essentially changes the game from being an action RPG to being an RTS."
That was such a good analogy. It's perfection.
Could something similar to be said to colonial builds like corals and sponges?
@@artman40 Not particularly, because said corals and sponges have no real communication and no strategy. Coral and sponges are really more like auto-clickers.
I wonder what happens when they figure out they can use macros
@@meneermankepoot Get banned for hacking by humans
That's what humans did.
I love how he used the hornet music over clips of bees attacking a hornet
I think Hive Knight would've made more sense but using Hornet's theme just makes her name a corny pun
I can’t believe I slept on this channel for so long. The videos are interesting, I love the framing device of Life being a game with expansions and DLC and etc., but most of all, I absolutely LOVE the music choices. Every time I hear some old RS music or whatever that iconic little ditty is bookmarking this video, it makes that happiness thing happen 🥲
This channel is perfect for me. Very informational and osrs graphics/music plus many more gamer related things. You are brilliant!
I’ll never forget when I was a kid, I watched this science video showing that a honey bee will find a patch of flowers and then return to the hive and give the exact location to others by shaking it’s body in different directions for specific periods of time. “Go this way for 8 seconds, then that way for 5 seconds, and then this way for 15 seconds, etc”. The others will circle around and watch this dance and memorize exactly where they need to go. They’re amazing little creatures.
It's doubly fun cause bees and wasps bloody learn to recognize you too. Like the whole hive will learn who you are. So one of them passed on your description to another who passed it on to another. It makes me wonder if they have short names for people or just describe them in detail every time.
"That loser kid scumbag Steve is back!" "Attack him before he takes out that bright light circle thing!" (magnifying glass)
@@misomie So THAT'S why my GF had the same huge bumblebee queen twice in her room🤔🤔🤔
Gotta say i prefer bumblebees over the rest, especially the bombus terrestris, they are peaceful asf and never bothered us in any way, they are hilarious and even defy gravity, that's some A Tier material!
@@andylaw3222 "According to all known laws of aviation..."
@@andylaw3222 Yeah, I love those peaceful little ladies too. At my parents' old house, the queen would come and say high to my brother every spring. He was certain they recognized him, and I think so too. He gardens, so they saw him more than anyone else. But none of us ever harmed them, so they were never aggressive towards us either.
This is one of your best videos to date! The fact you explained complex topics so well with the gaming analogy is really impressive!
I love your channel so much I just subscribed to Nebula through your link! I absolutely love your style of content and I will definitely keep watching any new content you make :)
AMAZING! This is the first TierZoo video I've come across, and wow! So dang creative and interesting!
This is truly top-tier science communication.
On the off chance the people involved reads this comment, WELL DONE!
You are doing a real service to young people with this type of content! (and I like it too)
The ant gameplay is not that engaging in solo
But in squad is really fun: scouting, defending, going on food raids on human territory...
You always find things to do and more
Well, yea. As stated in the vid. It's no longer action rpg. It's RTS. You have your base, resource pickup, infantries, heavy armors...
Dunno if they have superweapons. But encountering big opponents animals must have felt like taking down epic/commando units.
The Flood game mode is also very fun when there arent any 3 year olds playing.
Great way to start the game too. Meet a bunch of other people who need you just as much as you need them so they colony survives
@@EnTiempo824I can see the clan builds and guilds having a lot of fun but the use of bots on this server is op
@@thelukesternater so is malware. It’s crazy that Fungal Class players figured out how to take control of Insect Classes
23 years of watching nature docs, and never once did anyone talk about why bee colonies have a Queen. You made me understand so easily!
You really upped the phase and flow with this one. Well done! Very entertaining and educational.
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wth this only has 1 like
@@ASocialistTransGirlcuz literally no one cares about nebula
@@daxlucero2437LOL he forgot to pin his own comment.
The fact that something like a door head ant actually exists and was ... evolutionarily created due to necessity? for the purpose of blocking entrances with their heads astounds me
ants block door to stop predators. the ant with the biggest head is most likely to be successful. repeat ten billion times, each time the biggest head is most likely to "win" thereby enabling its hive to pass on its genes... and eventually, there's literally a gene for biggest head because there has been a "selection pressure" to elicit that gene in a phenotype. :D
@@Laeiryn explained almost perfectly!
@@Laeiryn okay but if the queen is responsible for breeding, then how are adaptations developed in the rest of the colony? To explain what I'm asking better, if this large headed ant never does anything itself to pass down its genetic information, how does it end up evolving?
@@OverAchieverStudios the ants colony with no ants with bigger head to block to doors are most likely to just die. So on the long term the queen that are able to generate them are more likely to survive and reproduce. People dont realize how much time pass before we can actually realize and categorie this"new type of ants" haahah
@@martinlabossiere ah okay makes sense. Just didn’t know if I was missing a certain detail or if it really was only the queen that passes down genetic information. I also know nothing about ants or colony species. Thanks!
I'm surprised for the 'sacrifice their lives for the colony' part, you didn't show Colobopsis Explodens, ants which literally explode themselves with the acid contained in their abdomen to halt the attackers.
Glyphid Exploder
@@electrum5579 rock and stone brother
Ants are so OP they literally created Creepers before Creepers were even a thing
@@radiation6913 Leave no dwarf behind!
Which mad lad thought up that ability?
Another clean transition from normal content to the advertisement part of the video. This isn't a complaint; I'm genuinely impressed at how smooth your transitions are.
I have no idea how stumbled onto this video but this presentation was amazing! You sir have a new subscriber!
2:52 In many cases, veteran Bear mains have the endurance and the armor values to simply tank all damage Bee players deal, as they've found the XP gains of raiding their hive far outweighs any damage and debuffs they might get in the process.
I’d be curious to see how a bear might respond to exotic species of bee/wasp.
@@TheRestedOne well it would probably fuckin die
@@fork9767 no they would not
@@bigmanbigman2544 prove it nerd
@@fork9767 the bear is strong big bear strong the bear can ignore the bee no matter the kind of bee
Tierzoo: "This faction's strategy is so disturbingly brutal!"
Me: It's Parasitic Wasps isn't it?
I was thinking same thing. Like "O H, you're talking about tarantula hawks and the like, right? Right."
Cordyceps fungi: “Hold my disgusting brain mushroom”
A worm tier list would actually be pretty interesting. They don't even have to be closely related, such as flatworms and earthworms
Even things like mealworms?
@@jaimemartinez8963 Nah like it would only include animals that are called "worms" even in their adult stage. So things like inchworms, meal worms etc won't count. I mean things like earthworms, flatworms, bristleworms, bloodworms, among others
So I thought I was clicking on a dark souls video...but this was even better. Just an amazing idea to impart knowledge in such a huge way.
I'll definitely go and watch more videos from you rn.
The patch notes on these guys are always a treat to read. Things like:
"Asked bee players very nicely to stop being so useful to other playstyles so that we can finally nerf them."
Its no wander they needed to break the game because many other players need them to play, therefore it makes sense that they play with self modified rules
Yeah, Outside has been patched around pollinators since at least the Cretaceous build. I dunno about the kids these days, but I remember back in the day suppliers couldn't keep the _Flowering_ expansion to _Outside: Jurassic_ on the shelves! It was so popular that vanilla Jurassic had to be scrapped and Cretaceous was rushed out with baseline _Flowering_ options.
Just goes to prove how much more fundamental the exploits become when a fan-made feature with rushed play-testing time gets sent out to the public.
Imagine breaking the meta so hard the devs have no way of nerfing you without destroying their own game.
@@sonokawaray It's called corporate capitalism.
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5:08 One minor correction:
Sister bees attain 100% of their father's DNA since the father only has 1 set of chromosomes. That means all sisters share at least 50% of their DNA just from the father. The remaining 50% is provided by the mother, who contributes 50% of her DNA. This in total makes sisters 75% related, like you were saying.
This confused me too, but fortunately the graphics show that 100% of father DNA is passed on
So... 75% it's an exact copy of the parent's DNA and the remaining 25% is RNG?
Thanks for clearing that up. I had to pause that section of the video and I still didn't get it.
thank you, i was confused as well by what tierzoo was saying but this comment made it clear
@@Srevengel
No, every life is 100% a copy of their parents' DNA barring mutation, the 75% similarity in hymenoptera is with their siblings.
Wow re-watching your vids because I have a rolled ankle. It’s actually helping (with rest and forgetting it hurts). Thank you, tierzoo. Your the best. And could you do outside play through again? I really liked them and would enjoy watching them again (especially in the modern game).
First video I'm watching from this creator. I'm instantly impressed. Keep it up mate.
Was grinding xp recently to unlock the "better memory" perk, and as I was doing so a wasp flew into my territory and engaged in combat so i couldn't fast travel. Almost lost my character, but I managed to win. Good thing too, it took me years to get where I am now, though im still trying to optimize my build for the current meta.
You got lucky, accidentally walked into an ambush of bees. I died and lost everything. Always make a hearing check before walking into a new area.
pro tip: if you have access to tools in your build, always utilize them. Human players who can endure the intimidation debuff can trap a wasp unit under a plastic cup. They don't even have to actively kill it or try to remove it via the somewhat risky strategy of sliding a piece of paper underneath, they just have to outlast the insect player. Granted, it's usually the "get the wasp under a cup" step that's the most difficult.
@@Romanticoutlaw I opt for a grab move while having a cloth equipped
be sure to stay away from the alcohol and marijuana debuffs, and you should be just fine
@@onigirl05 thank goodness they have the audio cues.
Ants, however, have always tripped me up with how quiet they are. Kinda busted that they mostly use the invisible pheromones-based ping system so players like me who don't spec much into scent abilities can't detect their signals.
I'm simply amazed it took this long to get to eusocial insects, considering how many times they've been mentioned on the channel.
I've been begging for it on every video for a while now.
I think it's really hard to do them justice, and TierZoo did an excellent job here!
Imagine humans working together for the greater good without a single thought of self interest.
We would break the meta even more, giving us evolution beyond scope.
In that type of situation I think that is what the Borg is. Sure we can excel at things like never before but part of humanity is our chaoticness
So all dissension in mankind is just a nerf to prevent complete game breaking
I wish people would stop imagining that, because attempts to implement that level of collectivism inevitably end in disastrous failures,. The most examples are the 10s of millions of bodies left by communism.
That level of collectivism completely disregards the dignity of individual humans, and it goes completely against our nature and how our minds work. Remember that the only reason it works in bees and ants is a genetic trick that's biologically impossible in humans.
There were two attempts at this strategy. One doctrine was fascism and the other was communism. However, humans generally rejected both play styles.
@@QualityPen true that lol
As always your edits are out of this world.
I must say, as an occasional termite player, that I am a bit disappointed that you didn't even mention this other lineage of eusocial insects, but still great video!
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They don’t have all the other special abilities.
Invested players look at casual players that just camp as something to increase their kill streak and maintain their energy levels.
@@evilsharkey8954 They have some other ones which are really cool
For example, some can shoot acid, kill a tree by removing its bark, build nests up to 9m high and 9m deep using feces mixed with mud, have secondary queens (and kings) in case the main ones die (to replace them)...
To be fair termites aren't closely related to ants wasps and bees at all, they're closest to cockroaches
Not gonna lie, the companion video about parasitoid wasps has gotten me tempted bigger than anything else.
Also, I can't believe you didn't mention the human+bee co-op strategy! It's a criminally underrated game play style, especially because its one of the few human co-op strategies where the human is the support for the bees, rather than the other way around.
The bees are very much our support as well. Insect pollination dramatically increases the fertility of many fruits and vegetables we take for granted. Without bees and other pollinators, the plant-based part of our diet would be limited mostly to crops that can be pollinated abiotically, e.g., wind-pollinated cereals and legumes.
Yeah, it would be nice to see a video on one of the few times a human is the support class for another class.
Human support builds is a whole meta for sure if you were to cover it. Interesting to see new strats in the realm of niche co-op teams with porpoises and such, too in the future.
seems like controlling coincidences to me.
It's a testament on how broken humans are that we support entire guilds of players just so we can have a few more materials in our crafting mini games. We're so dominant we can spend our entire lives only working on side quests and perfecting mini games, and if youre lucky and spawn in a good server you never have to even touch combat (I mean, at least after the PE section of the tutorial). I'm glad it lets players diversify their builds and opt into "suboptimal" builds. Adds flavor to the game.
Love the RS poison damage. And the RS music during the ad roll.10/10 content.
Love that the opening theme was the Godskin Apostle theme 👌👌 Excellent taste, sir
Other insects: Invests points into painful stings and solid armor
Ants: *Rapid birth-giving, take it or leave it*
Using Hornet's theme from Hollow Knight as background music shows just how much of a man of culture you are.
Ok, but may I present to you: Bullet Ant.
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@@VeganSemihCyprus33 are you dillusional
Summoner is a great clases in outside
@@BarcelonaFan3213 its delusional
It always amazed me how many times the hive seems more conscious than the single ant, as it shows collective behavior that is "smarter" that what any ant could do (eg, creating a bridge made of ants to reach for food, even if most of the ants making the bridge will die). This is more plausible when you realize that there are more ants per colony than neurons per ant, and that the ants are always engaging on chemical comunication, so it isn't that bad of an analogy to think of the ants as the neurons of a decentralized brain
Meanwhile me and my friends when we’re together are the exact opposite. When we’re together, all of a sudden there’s more of us than there are neurons per individual, thus causing us to have only a single neuron which we all share.
I like to think that the ant's queen is the real player controlling them in God View... XD
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@@Luis-qj3pg The colony is the actual organism, not the individual. A single bee is as useful as a single cell in your body
I think of hives more like how multicellular organisms first evolved - individual cells started sticking together, forming a safe environment within, for cells to specialise, and due to sticking together, when moving, they'd move together, increasingly functioning as one macro-organism, until we get to a point where if they separated, the whole colony dies, and now we have one macro-organism.
So now we have two models of macro-macro organisms. Eusocial, and civilised (us). We can literally manipulate reality's building blocks on an atomic level, and regularly manipulate them on a slightly higher level to create the silicon dies that power the devices on which we type all of these comments.
Whoever makes tierzoo deserves millions of dollars a year. Genius content
Awesome video as always. Would love seeing a video about stag beetles! They are my favorite animal
I love how Tierzoo used the "Hornet" theme from Hollow Knight once he started actually talking about the bees ants and wasps lol, fitting.
Even though ironically Hornet is closer to a spider than an actual hornet
@@astuteanansi4935 yeah, there really is no hornet phenotype in her, she's the daughter of a wyrm and a spider queen lol
Best CZcams channel. Every one of your videos is quality.
this is the first of your videos that i have watched
the gamer references throughout the video had me rolling
s-tier narration and scriptwriting
“Eliminated Hornet” while the Hornet theme is playing. Classy, TierZoo.
I was super impressed that the most distriburbing thing Elden Ring could do was put extremely realistic ants into the game but make them huge
You should see them in EDF
If they were this big irl, we'd be beyond fucked
It's always semi-disturbing when the ant grabs you and stabs you through the abdomen (And doesn't it pump you full of poison too? I only went down to that hellhole once.)
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They put big ant in dark souls 2
theres a major point you should have mentioned is that even if these choices are awesome, you can't really play your own way, the queen is controlling the whole hive and makes you obligated to give all of your exp and resources into the common inventory where only the queen can decide to give back these items, making the point of playing itself non-existant since you can not do your own things.
there is also the issue of how you have to attack if judged nessesary by the hive, essencially risking all of your progress.
Agreed, in addition, how does one become a queen? Is there a dlc required?
"Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?" Thumbs up for that line alone. Also, great video! I was looking to see if there were already a video game named after the main game of "Outside" and unfortunately it looks like someone already made it and it is a poor executed horror/survival game. It's totally unworthy of the title "Outside". Oh well. Still, I think it would be really cool if a video game of similar name were made because I believe it would serve as a good in-game guide to this game we're already participating in. Sort of a hidden game within-a-game that might give one hints or cheat codes to better perform in this game. I understand through things like 'education' and 'common sense' we already have player guides but I believe it cannot hurt to have another format for a player guide and visual/audio formats like video games or mmorpgs are very engaging and might assist in upping the intelligence attribute of many players.
Issue is, TZ made this like a DnD-WoW-platform fighter-FF hybrid that would be very hard to recreate
As a queen bee main, I find that being a queen bee really changes the gameplay style from an rpg to a wartime strategy game where you control different groups of troops
that's what a real time strategy game is
The queen doesn't control their hive, that's why it's called hive mind. It's more like a neural network with each part contributing to the system.
@@Gaunerchen no its not. They are literally bots who do their job and communicate but they dont have a shared intelligence or a group conscousnes (as if the current understanding of them)
@@CoNteMpTone it all comes down to how you define consciousness.
Each individual insect is very simple. Even the Queen has a relatively simple nervous system, and would not be considered intelligent on its own.
The whole hive though, acts in what appears to be an intelligent and organised way. It's an emergent behaviour from the simple choices each insect makes, and the simple rules that they instinctualy follow. Whether you can call a system intelligent or conscious, or if those terms are reserved for individual organisms is a matter of deffinition.
TZ has me rollin when he refers to extinction level events as "balance patches".
I'm just waiting for humans to get patched out by the devs.
@@lee-jj1js will dragon mains finally be a thing then?
@@hyzmarie maybe if their are enough radioactive lizards that can reproduce 😇
@@samlink686 yay! (Don’t tell anybody, but I’ve been modding it in)
@@lee-jj1js brother , you want to be logged out early ?
I don't normally rewatch videos. Glad this one got put on my scroll!
I like this channel , this is such an easy way to learn more about nature and biology! Thx for your work
I was recently grinding for xp by collecting rare fungi and came across a newly active wasp base. Players started logging in like crazy to join the offensive. Had to toggle auto-sprint until I could fast travel out of the area. They are a mighty opponent in numbers.
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the same thing happenened to me
Just so everyone is aware, bears attacking beehives for honey is mostly a myth, while bears do greatly enjoy honey, far more valuable in XP are bee and ant grubs, and it is, mostly, the allure of tasty little protein fat nuggets that lead bears to beehives.
I am a beekeeper and I approve this message
But as long as the bears are there to collect the protein, they won't mind chewing on a few carbs too.
@@Zak-cf2zp I'm a bearkeeper and I also approve this message
@@Zak-cf2zp You mean server owner?
Elliott Cooper,
Wow! Bonus learning.
Thank you.
This channel is so creative. Love it.
5:00 is mind breaking, thank you for this realization!
I play as a human. Back when I was a noob, I used to grief ant bases with a stick (thank you, tool use!). I was always amazed by how quickly the ant players rebuilt their bases. A few times, I even gave them a little XP. I’d chase a lone arthropod player towards a group of ants, then retreat and watch the show. Worms, pillbugs, even ants from different teams-all bodied in seconds.
Meanie!
so tell me how the fuck haven't you been banned from the ant servers yet ?
@@yankee_0013 everybody who isn't a member of the colony has already been banned even before they were born, the access and IP to their servers are just weak and don't use encryption
That second thing sounds really cute, actually. You use your superior, well, everything, to pressure a smaller player into a situation that doesn't benefit you, but helps others.
Even as a fellow human player, I'm constantly amazed at how broadly we apply our social skills, and how we use them for things that, even to other humans, seem pointless.
@@yankee_0013 Anything gets through Ant servers because they don’t have any server protection lol. I’ve gotten so much EXP as a housecat main because of them.
I would be extremely happy if outside became a real playable game by the way keep up the good content tier zoo!
It already is except we're stuck maining humans.
The runescape edits are the reason I watch these lol. I love it.
I’ve moderated gameplay with a large amount of bee players before, where we actually would at times introduce new queen bees to a hive. Most of the time the hive would accept her, but sometimes they would reject the new queen and kill her. Your explanation was quite good, but if the only motive for the sister bees to work with the queen bee is their shared code, why would they ever accept a queen bee with whom they share no code? Great video as always.
Long story short, when your whole world concept is dictated primarily by what pheromones those around you are producing, one queen bee looks much like another.
Can't have a new auntie queen hatched by our queen (at great calorific expense, I might add) just get immediately killed off by her own nieces on her way out of the hive, can we?
by getting more queens you also make your colony bigger, which makes survival even easier, which means more reproduction to your queen and you
I heard that one way of introducing a new, unrelated queen is in a special box with something sugary plugging the only opening big enough for a bee to get through (obv there are also air holes). At first they think she's an intruder, but the only way to reach her is to eat their way through the sugary stuff and that takes them long enough they'll get used to her smell in that time. Even knowing it's a pheromone thing, I still like to picture it as:
Bees: WE SHALL NOT BE RULED BY A FOREIGN MONARCH! DEATH TO USURPERS!
New queen: I'll let you eat cake.
Bees: Yes, Your Majesty!
@@dbseamz Yes, we used these cages regularly to introduce new queens. It’s just fascinating that it still works even though the queen shares no genetic code with them.
I would also add that the average bee is probrably considerably more likely to meet a related queen than an unrelated one. So it is enough for the average bee to know to 'protect THE queen' in order to further their own genes.
This was thought-provoking and very informative which is exactly what a good biology video should be. Extremely well done, sir, and very funny, too. "broke the game" makes me chuckle every time. "should be nerfed" lol
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Doing a little trolling
Just picked up Curiosity stream for the year after finding and LOVING your channel. Checked it out and if anyone is on the fence, it is an incredible deal. There is so much content and very comparable to National Geographic and old History channel in terms of quality. Was not disappointed, keep doing what you do and thanks for the hook up!
Thankyou for using your superb "teach ability" to make these videos. I cant get enough of
I like how bees are useful to the environment. While
wasps exist just to torment people.
Stop commenting everywhere
I mean there's gonna be at least one downside to playing humans
Wasps do pollinate some plants, and kill harmful insects
@@sway_deaddream4733 that rude
I know that you are actually an AI. Your mustache can't hide your artificial nature.
This feels like a genuine deep dive/rant someone would make about a busted strategy in a game and it's fantastic
The GE theme during the sponsor segment was the chef's kiss on this beauty
Recommendation: ticks
They are so small and yet so annoying and can carry very dangerous diseases. From spring to autumn I feel like I'm not living on a open world server without very high level beefed up protection gear and 100x caution
Anti-recommendation: ticks are gross
Ticks Main Are Annoying
@@FakeWaterLoL Tick mains need to be banned in the next balance patch.
I get why you'd separate Parasitoid Wasps. They're wasps that lay their eggs inside other creatures to feast on them and kill them over time. It's the stuff of nightmares and it does very little to alleviate my own personal spheksophobia.
if bees are druids, parasitoid wasps are warlocks lmao
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New video! Hype! Love code-contributions as a DNA analog
I know little about gaming but am impressed by the way this channel analyses the dynamics of the animal kingdom.
I love these! Keep it up!
Regular player base: We will struggle to win this game!
Ant guilds: The game will struggle to win us.
Watched the Parasitoid Wasp video, and I can just imagine all the keyboards breaking in two as the player is forced to watch their still living character be mind controlled, turned into a living food source for larvae, and all the while being unable to even alt-F4.
tfw you're stunlocked for literally weeks