As much as i might get heckled by people i feel vendreads will become broken if they get two or three good support cards Ps i hope this happens cause i want a deck like nekroz to come back to the competitive scene
The really sad thing is that vendreads were really strong after the first set and the the ocg got then in the extra pack and Konami just went, "there no longer tcg exclusives so... There's no point in any good support!!!" Also saviour is supposed to support majestic and vendread which means it's hopefully gonna have a tribute effect with hopefully a search effect and a GY effect since both decks need those for synergy #AdvendreadMajesticForMayor
Already lost my hope with the Vendreads. They're too slow, and just isn't consistent enough. Makes me wish they were broken. Heck, even the Fur Hires are better.
@@koruoshouji9960 I mean if you play friendlies chances are you will play against a fun deck meaning your bad deck could win. Now obviously don't use bad decks in tournament. Competitive scenes really aren't meant for fun, many would love to have fun while playing competitive but its not likely.
@@livingstone1084 Right. I agree which is why someone would be curious to know if the deck they just bought sucks. And on the other hand if they're into friendlies. Perhaps they don't want to play meta. I literally just dulled my friend recently. We're pretty casual and when I explained to him that "Witch Golem Aruru" was a "Hand Trap" he immediately started calling his own card bullshit and said he didn't want to play it. Note that Aruru was the only card that genuinely kept him alive against me. As he decked out with very low LP and a has 52 card count vs my 40. If your deck "sucks" its likely to not have the "dreaded" "meta" label. I know it's not that simple. But people are like that. They still get to decide what to do after the video ends anyways. I understand your plight though, completely.
Mr.Dueler0905 same here dude 😆🤙🏼 only deck I own that can go toe to toe with Gouki & pure sky strikers. Tribute their firewall for cost & banish their divine sword equip cripples Gouki Knightmare heavily lol
When I had a guy scoop both games at a regional turn 1 and turn 2 I knew Infernoid Lair was booty. I even built it and when that happened against my 60 card deck I just decided to trade out most of the cards for better ones.
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ShadowThunder563 debatable, it's run heavily in infernoids and it can compete on locals level if you're going for a deck that flopped honorable mention to fur hire and 2018 counter fairies
Uhm...the comment on Krawlers shows that the 2 support cards from Cybernetic Horizon weren't taken into consideration. It gives them speed, consistency and a way to trigger their floating effect.
The Trap monster is more of a Palladion thing...it can't even replace World Armor as a World Legacy searcher in Krawler decks as it is way more specific (as it needs to be summoned in a linked zone (and Krawlers...if at all only go into Subterror Behemoth Fiendess in their 1st turn).
Really? Krawlers is one of the decks I play at my locals and I took out fiendess because I never used her. I prefure to set up my defencive plays and graveyard first turn as krawlers play style lends itself better to a long grind and advantage game than a 1st turn spam game and Fiendess is vulnerable as all hell when left on the field during your opponents turn plus its a target for communion and you really dont want to waste that. The trap monster just helps the deck with long term consistancy and can be used as material for any of there links so it synchronizes very well with the decks style
@@jonathanpompa5537 but like they are not played as Konami meant to, i.e. making that shitty fusion monsters. They are played or as a synchro spam deck or as a rongo turbo, but like they are not still good enough. Six Samurai for becoming good needs the link monster that searches gateway and gateway at 2 at minimum
I'd like to see firewall dragon not banned but errataed so it only takes cyberse monsters to make. It'd give that deck a major boost and make the player base happy by essentially getting rid of it by making it archetype exclusive
I personally think it should be generic but only be able to special summon cyberse monsters and bounce monsters back equal to the number of Cyberse monsters co-linked with it
you need to find a way to make Firewall Dragon actually archetype exclusive to Playmaker's version of rather generic Cyberse monsters so you keep Firewall Dragon away Salamangreats! It's possible by having him locked down "Cyberse" Cyberse monsters as his Link Materials.
Unfortunately that would make salamangreats even better and, considering how good they are despite all the limits and bans they faced, this'd damn near break the deck.
In my opinion Weatheries are actually pretty good if you run them right. Using thunder pattern to disrupt enemy board and then the hand loop one, just to have them come back every standby phase is quite nice. As for Elementsabers, they have an easy way to an almost invulnerable board, plus negates.
Alan Ricks they need this Tindangle (whatever) Link-1 ➡️(⬅️) 1 “Tindangle” monster If this card is Link Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 “Tindangle” monster from your Deck in face-down Defense Position, then, if you have “Tindangle Base Gardna” in your GY; flip all monsters you control in face-up Defense Position.
Ive played weather painters for months and the aim isnt really to summon rainbow but to out grind and out resource your opponent whilst using cards like windwitchs or metaltron or even eater of millions to give the deck a way to have extra firepower. If you're playing rainbow turbo you're playing the deck wrong
Aiden Wren As a WP player, you hit it right on the head. We play the grind game, Rainbow is a win more card that's really only viable with a Soul Charge in hand
I knew they would be bad from the gimmicks alone. If u pull of the gimmick, u can do really cool stuff though. It's a rewarding deck. Gave up on it after a week or so.
Mr. Mango hundred percent for fun. Life has enough real stress without making my hobby another source haha. Gagagaga kind of came out of left field so I wasn’t sure if there was some synergy there I haven’t heard of.
As a magical musket player I can say that the new link "magical musketeer max" fixes a lot of the problems they had. They are very early game reliant and before they could barely get out a good board fast. Now with Max you can pull out like 4 monsters in one turn or get 4 spell/traps which is all you need for a good start. The problem is when you loose on the die roll and have to go first in which case max completely flops.
Cyberse as of now is more of a beat down deck. It's slowly becoming something good but I'm sure it won't become that till the entire Vrains series is over. lol Oh, and they can finally extra link too.
Twilightsworn should have been one of the decks. I was super hyped for it when it was announced......then it actually came out, and I bought all the individual cards....even bringing Grass back wouldn’t save them.
That's a good choice. Punishment dragon can do some broken stuff late game but the other cards didn't synergies at all with the deck. I was sad to hear after they came out, a pure lightsworn deck got top 16 and not some twilight hybrid monstrosity
CTRL Z0Y depends how you play them. They were never meant to top a YCS but it is more than capable of doing damage at locals and possibly regionals if run correctly
they're a decent roguey deck and I enjoy playing them :) Im actually planning on taking them to a regionals myself, no Im not expecting to top, but I know theres certain decks that it can beat like altergeist I guess I dont really get it since Im not super keen meta player, but I unintentionally embarrass people at my locals when I win my match, and then other people crowd round my opponent and start mocking "HAHA I cant believe you lost to weather painters! they're such a shit deck!" ...like...obviously they're not that bad if it can stand up to some of the more meta decks? right? am I missing something?
thanks :) and hey if it goes badly I still get to go to comiccon afterwards haha, Im going to london regionals and it happens the same weekend and shares the same venue as comiccon, so the entry price for the tournament comes with free entry to comiccon for the day too :D
Rokkets suffered from a few things 1) Revolver kept being used as jank generic dragon support 2) Gouki floats better 3) No good quickie link monsters to go into that aren't link 4 If they got their own version of multifaker I think they can turn it around until then yeah its jank
Honestly, Cyberse is a pretty good deck when you can open a decently consistent 3-card combo that ends with Cyberse Witch + Honeybot + Cyberse Magician. Heck, I even built a $30 variant that does the same thing fairly good. Of course, it’s no meta deck and can’t handle disruption that well and the combo loses to non-targetting removal. Granted if Cyberse Magician is destroyed it searches any Cyberse monster and later can be banished with cynet ritual to generate 2 tokens
Once we finally get Cynet Codec, Micro Coder, Code Radiator, and Code Talker in that structure deck, Cyberse will actually be a pretty decent Link Spam/Beatdown deck. I've been playing it recently, and it's a pretty good Link Spam deck once the Codec searches start popping off. Extra Linking with 5 "code Talker" monsters is super satisfying. I also enjoy OTKing with Clock Dragon and locking with Transcode & Honeybot + Magician.
Hey at least you have Borrel Regenerator Now, it's a great support card and definitely worth picking up. Also I don't think you should've put Cyberse on this because they got support in the OCG that doubled their strength IMO and even managed to win a tournament in the OCG!
Man I want rokkets to be good, I love them, their art is cool and their bosses are AMAZING, they need another monster that can special two rokkets from your grave when targeted from an link monster, but negate their effects and destroy em during the end phase or something that helps them with floating, they don't get enough monsters on board to summon their borrel or topologic monsters
I never played rockkets but it was fun watching them do stuff unlike goki who go off doing anything. Rockkets were way more fun than some of the meta stuff going on
My biggest problem with Rokkets is when your opening hand is clogged with Rokket Monsters and you don't have Boot Sector Launch to get rid of them. You Just set a Rokket and pass, and with how fast a game goes, you'll get run over by your opponent before you get to summon your Borrel Link Monster, let alone knowing how it takes a considerable field setup for Rokkets to get going (Borrel Link Monster, 1 or 2 different Rokket monsters, Boot Sector Launch, possibly a face down trap like Solemn Strike.)
I think another huge weakness of Magical Musketeers was that every card, iirc, was hard OPT. Like I can accept the monsters being that way; being able to fill a field with Starfire would be broken. But the spells and traps didn’t have to be that way considering they’d become strict minuses after they make one of the monsters get their effect.
at least they're TCG exclusives, and we have learn from time to time that OCG always knows how to fix a TCG deck when they want to fix it *SPYRAL Flashbacks* *If only Burning Abyss would get their link monster already on TCG* *still waiting on Subterror Guru in TCG*
Vendreads keep getting better. Tons of new zombie/ritual support coming. For f.as, I was hyped too. Went from a werid stun deck that I wanted to play, to a spam deck that u lost a lot of interest in.
He's kidding right? Cyberse have been a joke since their debut and still playing catch up. It's obvious that Konami knows how to make a busted deck. They just choose this deck to be terrible. The best thing cyberse has going for is a little bit of disruption. Cyberse aren't bad turn one but after that they suck.
F.A. was a huge letdown. Just when it seemed like they were finally going to take off, a single hit on the banlist (Ancient Fairy Dragon) took their moment in the sun.
The year is only half over and you guys are making this list ALREADY? I guarantee you that by December there will be ten more decks worthy of being on this list!
Why am I always attracted to decks that seem to underperform? A few of my favorite archetypes conceptually, visually or both have been Ghostricks, Frightfurs, Madolche, Aroma and Vendread. What is this curse? (PS, by "Underperform" I mean they aren't generally considered to be mid-tier or higher when used primarily by themselves. Fluffals are Rogue, but as far as I know that's as high as they got usage-wise.)
Same man :( Galaxy Photons, Yosenju, Weather Painters, Magical Musketeers, Flower Cardians, Superheavy Samurai, Noble Knights and the list goes on and on... i cri myself to sleep evri nite. At least Weather Painters and Yosenju are getting support while Noble Knights have proven themselves to steal a win here and there. The other ones are rotting :(
I used to play Cyberse before Firewall got banned, the soft lock with Cyberse Magician and Honeybot was fun to pull out against people that didn't know about it, but sadly yeah, the deck doesn't work too well, I'm hyped about Salamangreats though!
Rokkets suck now because it plays like it's missing half of its cards. They're more of an engine at this point than an actual deck. Give it a few sets so they get better support.
Amorphages had so much potential with amazing shut down effects. Sadly it falls short having no removal, no search, no real recovery, no counter, no boss, no support of any kind, the limited pendulum scales. Plus the tribute cost dwindled your small amount of resources. Add the fact that Master rule 4 limits how many monsters you can pendulum summon from the extra deck, cuts off their one comeback. Maybe in master rule 3 they could of been a tier deck 3 with OTK potential.
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I think I have actually discovered the way they intended the secret 6 to be played, in tandem with the other six samurais, because the secret six a lot of them share the effect if exactly one 6 Samurai would be destroyed by card effect and no others you can banish this card from your graveyard instead,and a lot of the other six samurais share the effect of if this card would be destroyed you can destroy another Six Samurai instead,so what happens or what you do is get some of your secret six into the great first maybe they're like your first line of defense or somethingthat way when your other six samurais hit the field if your opponent goes to destroy like by battle or whatever well you use that six samurais effect to destroy another one instead but since that is a card affect you and then banish a shadow 6 from your graveyard instead that way none of your samurais die and you still have a field of monsters
Vendreads, Lair of Darkness and Secret 6 Sam. I don't think anyone had high expectations for Krawlers. Also I built a very competitive Magical Musket Deck plan on finally competing with it.
You forgot to mention Chemicritter, Digital Bug, Dinomist, Igknight, man, especially Igknight, i used to love them so much because of their bad ass artwork. But now, even with the help of Electrumite, the Igknights still can't do anything on their own. The Igknight boss sure looks awesome, sure it can place an opponent's monster back to the deck non-targeting, but still, it is a minus 3. Rest in peace Igknight
You guys haven't seen Weather Painters in OCG land and what can they do lol. A bunch of slowly pluses that works under a lot of floodgate is nothing to laugh at
Konami were really dumb in making support. They made a link monster for a Ritual Deck and a Fusion monster for a Synchro spam deck that needed a link monster.
Speaking of a Vendread Link Monster, what archetypes are you guys hoping get a Link Monster in Vrains Pack 2? Would love to see a Top 10 video on that. Personally I have fingers crossed for Ghostricks. They could really use it :(
With Magibullets, you have to play where you’re opponent think about where they play they play their spells and traps. Sure any kind of effect negation will shut them down, but that’s why you gotta run tech cards to deal with that.
Idk. Vendread got that extra link combo with gumblar now. And F.A. is just underrated and piloted incorrectly in my opinion. I still need to do more testing with the deck but i have gotten pretty good results and there is a pretty good soft lock that you can use and just so much negation in the deck I still feel like it's getting slept on. But just my opinion.
In 2020 I made a cyberse deck that can end on a 3 negate apollusa red eyed dragoon equiped with the buster lock. If you ask me they are not all that dissapointing.
I'm surprised to see Lair wasn't on here. This was something a fair amount of people were looking forward to, the rest dreading, and it seemed like a good concept, but with it being too rare a concept, it had little good support, and only one good search card that came in the deck itself, being Ahrima. If Lair could, on activation, search for a Dark monster that had an effect with a tribute cost, like absolutely every other field spell that's come out for competitive themes these past few years can, then it would have been a good deck.
Kind of glad Super Quants weren't on this list. I also feel like that's maybe because people forget about them. I'm excited for their upcoming support though
Remember when LoD was meant to turn over table, break the meta and be apart of every deck with an OP deck momster.... Those where the days Ofc I would be the guy to pick to pick rokets as my new deck into the link generation.....
what do you think about A-Z, technically, it isn't an archetype, but once you get out armed dragon catapult cannon, it's over, you can't touch it, especiially once you get assault core, and crush wyvern equipped, plus maybe a support platform, and buster drake.
I've built an elementsaber invoked deck and although I admit it will never compete with top tier decks like thunder dragons and the rest it is a really good fun deck and can make other decks struggle because between the elements effects and the invoked fusions effects it can be difficult to figure out what to do. I do agree with the tears for vendreads I love them but the support has been mediocre at best and they need a better way to get the monsters and spells especially as you can't use pre-prep on them.
If F.A.'s link monster had had a AFD style field spell popping effect (albeit one limited to the F.A. archetype) then they still could have been in contention, but of course...
I feel like cyberse has good main deck monsters and can flood the field, but it really has nothing to make in the extra deck that’s really worth it, especially the cyberse exclusive link monsters
I actually got inspired to make a Vendread deck, after seeing an OCG build topping a small tournament. Am I being a fool with that, after listening to this?
Yeah....bought a Spirit Warriors box, made a Weather Painter deck...it sucks, big time. But still, I really like the archetype idea. Like you said: It does alot of nothing
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I have an Invoked Elementsaber deck and it's WAY better than just pure Elementsaber. Definitely try Invoked in the deck and only run like 2 of the Elemental Lords and the deck becomes way more consistent
Still have some hope for Rokkets. Vrains is still running and Revolver (Varis) might still run new support into this deck. There needs to be more spam in this deck. A Link-3 targeting Borrel Dragon too? A better Link 2 engine then Miniborrel Dragon would be nice also.
InfinityCorps but that basically flopped too didn't it? No real showing or tops, which isn't ALWAYS needed for a deck to exist (duh) but in the vain of what they're talking about it seemed to under perform
InfinityCorps well no there's no wondering it just didn't, regardless if people lost with it or not. if it had that potential SOMEONE would have had success with it, if BAs can win a nationals a new structure deck would have seen play too IF it was good. In the BA example he must of been in the hand full of people to even bother with BA in a room full of skystriker-trickstars and gouki. The amount of people doesn't matters it's the decks strengths
The one that really chaps my ass is the Cyberse deck. It's so close i think, but it just falls short. As a tier 2 deck, its spam is decent, but against anything even remotely meta, it loses... quickly.
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As much as i might get heckled by people i feel vendreads will become broken if they get two or three good support cards
Ps i hope this happens cause i want a deck like nekroz to come back to the competitive scene
The really sad thing is that vendreads were really strong after the first set and the the ocg got then in the extra pack and Konami just went, "there no longer tcg exclusives so... There's no point in any good support!!!"
Also saviour is supposed to support majestic and vendread which means it's hopefully gonna have a tribute effect with hopefully a search effect and a GY effect since both decks need those for synergy
#AdvendreadMajesticForMayor
Already lost my hope with the Vendreads. They're too slow, and just isn't consistent enough. Makes me wish they were broken. Heck, even the Fur Hires are better.
Joseph Dacsil sadly ur not wrong hell i think digital bugs are better than them
Please don't be the deck I just bought... Please don't be the deck I just bought....
I know its been 5 months but was it the deck you bought
You buy a deck to have fun. Who cares about this youtubers opinion? If you like it, play it.
@@koruoshouji9960 I mean if you play friendlies chances are you will play against a fun deck meaning your bad deck could win. Now obviously don't use bad decks in tournament. Competitive scenes really aren't meant for fun, many would love to have fun while playing competitive but its not likely.
@@livingstone1084 Right. I agree which is why someone would be curious to know if the deck they just bought sucks. And on the other hand if they're into friendlies. Perhaps they don't want to play meta. I literally just dulled my friend recently. We're pretty casual and when I explained to him that "Witch Golem Aruru" was a "Hand Trap" he immediately started calling his own card bullshit and said he didn't want to play it.
Note that Aruru was the only card that genuinely kept him alive against me. As he decked out with very low LP and a has 52 card count vs my 40. If your deck "sucks" its likely to not have the "dreaded" "meta" label. I know it's not that simple. But people are like that.
They still get to decide what to do after the video ends anyways. I understand your plight though, completely.
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Lol
Tell that to my most lovely Crystal Beasts.
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Rokket tracer makes the deck so good.
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Remember when Lair of Darkness.dek was supposed to be busted? Yeah neither do I.
Gave a new tool to infernoids at least
I play lair of darkness competitively and I do well with ir
Mr.Dueler0905 same here dude 😆🤙🏼 only deck I own that can go toe to toe with Gouki & pure sky strikers. Tribute their firewall for cost & banish their divine sword equip cripples Gouki Knightmare heavily lol
When I had a guy scoop both games at a regional turn 1 and turn 2 I knew Infernoid Lair was booty. I even built it and when that happened against my 60 card deck I just decided to trade out most of the cards for better ones.
We need a "Discard 1 Infernity, Draw 2" card for Infernitys. The higher level ones just brick your hand.
I own all of these decks I feel attacked.
who knows there might be really good support in the future that bring these decks to a semi-competitive level or at least somewhat viable
Rom The Space Knight as you should! 🗡 Owning them says MORE than them being bad to begin with! you spent time and money on them!
Rom The Space Knight I feel it man don’t worry there’s always a new support coming 😁
Aside from world chalice the others are very underwhelming. But cyberse will get better soon
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I truly agree. Especially cyberus. My friend is making a cyberus deck but for links right now, idk if it’s gonna work for him
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i think one you could have put as a honorable mention is lair of darkness, it got released, and never saw the light of day again
ShadowThunder563 debatable, it's run heavily in infernoids and it can compete on locals level if you're going for a deck that flopped honorable mention to fur hire and 2018 counter fairies
Uhm...the comment on Krawlers shows that the 2 support cards from Cybernetic Horizon weren't taken into consideration. It gives them speed, consistency and a way to trigger their floating effect.
And they've got a new trap monster coming too. I doubt they'll ever be meta but they've become a really good casual deck
The Trap monster is more of a Palladion thing...it can't even replace World Armor as a World Legacy searcher in Krawler decks as it is way more specific (as it needs to be summoned in a linked zone (and Krawlers...if at all only go into Subterror Behemoth Fiendess in their 1st turn).
Really? Krawlers is one of the decks I play at my locals and I took out fiendess because I never used her. I prefure to set up my defencive plays and graveyard first turn as krawlers play style lends itself better to a long grind and advantage game than a 1st turn spam game and Fiendess is vulnerable as all hell when left on the field during your opponents turn plus its a target for communion and you really dont want to waste that. The trap monster just helps the deck with long term consistancy and can be used as material for any of there links so it synchronizes very well with the decks style
I am no fan of going into Fiendess either, but it is pretty much the only way to use the trap monster properly
Rip sprit warriors lmfao the whole set ended up on this list.
Six Sam's are good though
@@jonathanpompa5537 but like they are not played as Konami meant to, i.e. making that shitty fusion monsters. They are played or as a synchro spam deck or as a rongo turbo, but like they are not still good enough. Six Samurai for becoming good needs the link monster that searches gateway and gateway at 2 at minimum
I'd like to see firewall dragon not banned but errataed so it only takes cyberse monsters to make. It'd give that deck a major boost and make the player base happy by essentially getting rid of it by making it archetype exclusive
I personally think it should be generic but only be able to special summon cyberse monsters and bounce monsters back equal to the number of Cyberse monsters co-linked with it
you need to find a way to make Firewall Dragon actually archetype exclusive to Playmaker's version of rather generic Cyberse monsters so you keep Firewall Dragon away Salamangreats! It's possible by having him locked down "Cyberse" Cyberse monsters as his Link Materials.
Unfortunately that would make salamangreats even better and, considering how good they are despite all the limits and bans they faced, this'd damn near break the deck.
Damn, you're an oracle. The second effect errata only works on cyberse
In my opinion Weatheries are actually pretty good if you run them right. Using thunder pattern to disrupt enemy board and then the hand loop one, just to have them come back every standby phase is quite nice.
As for Elementsabers, they have an easy way to an almost invulnerable board, plus negates.
Tindangle so disappointing it didn't even make the list
Alan Ricks they need this
Tindangle (whatever)
Link-1 ➡️(⬅️)
1 “Tindangle” monster
If this card is Link Summoned: You can Special Summon 1 “Tindangle” monster from your Deck in face-down Defense Position, then, if you have “Tindangle Base Gardna” in your GY; flip all monsters you control in face-up Defense Position.
It ain’t disappointing when the deck was dead on arrival
Is that... a Mudkip???
Ive played weather painters for months and the aim isnt really to summon rainbow but to out grind and out resource your opponent whilst using cards like windwitchs or metaltron or even eater of millions to give the deck a way to have extra firepower. If you're playing rainbow turbo you're playing the deck wrong
Aiden Wren As a WP player, you hit it right on the head. We play the grind game, Rainbow is a win more card that's really only viable with a Soul Charge in hand
I agree, if u have enough weather painters on board to build rainbow then ud be better off not
Digital Bugs is the GOAT disappointment deck.
They could've used a Link Monster T_T
I thought Digital Bug was gonna be their #1 pick xD
I knew they would be bad from the gimmicks alone. If u pull of the gimmick, u can do really cool stuff though. It's a rewarding deck. Gave up on it after a week or so.
WHAT ABOUT you murdering their bro and so was regular show of the day to myself
Digital bugs are great
Oh I’m in fresh. My number one let down is magi bullets.
Mr. Mango like what, now? Explain yourself.
Mr. Mango hundred percent for fun. Life has enough real stress without making my hobby another source haha.
Gagagaga kind of came out of left field so I wasn’t sure if there was some synergy there I haven’t heard of.
As a magical musket player I can say that the new link "magical musketeer max" fixes a lot of the problems they had. They are very early game reliant and before they could barely get out a good board fast. Now with Max you can pull out like 4 monsters in one turn or get 4 spell/traps which is all you need for a good start. The problem is when you loose on the die roll and have to go first in which case max completely flops.
Cyberse as of now is more of a beat down deck. It's slowly becoming something good but I'm sure it won't become that till the entire Vrains series is over. lol Oh, and they can finally extra link too.
Yep, kinda like Pendulum Magicians took the entire Arc V series to become meta.
Try halfway into the next series. 😥 #cyberseplayer
Yes it was the same with quasar dragon and pendulums
meh
Twilightsworn should have been one of the decks. I was super hyped for it when it was announced......then it actually came out, and I bought all the individual cards....even bringing Grass back wouldn’t save them.
That's a good choice. Punishment dragon can do some broken stuff late game but the other cards didn't synergies at all with the deck. I was sad to hear after they came out, a pure lightsworn deck got top 16 and not some twilight hybrid monstrosity
Too bad weather painters were so disappointing :( their art was so good.
CTRL Z0Y depends how you play them. They were never meant to top a YCS but it is more than capable of doing damage at locals and possibly regionals if run correctly
"art." Get it? 'C-'cause they're artists?
I'll see myself out
they're a decent roguey deck and I enjoy playing them :) Im actually planning on taking them to a regionals myself, no Im not expecting to top, but I know theres certain decks that it can beat like altergeist
I guess I dont really get it since Im not super keen meta player, but I unintentionally embarrass people at my locals when I win my match, and then other people crowd round my opponent and start mocking "HAHA I cant believe you lost to weather painters! they're such a shit deck!" ...like...obviously they're not that bad if it can stand up to some of the more meta decks? right? am I missing something?
@@gameramaproductions Good luck on regionals! Seems that I underestimated the deck
thanks :) and hey if it goes badly I still get to go to comiccon afterwards haha, Im going to london regionals and it happens the same weekend and shares the same venue as comiccon, so the entry price for the tournament comes with free entry to comiccon for the day too :D
Paul.... you broke my heart heart when you said world chalice was disappointing.... 💔
Rokkets suffered from a few things
1) Revolver kept being used as jank generic dragon support
2) Gouki floats better
3) No good quickie link monsters to go into that aren't link 4
If they got their own version of multifaker I think they can turn it around until then yeah its jank
id love to see Cardians somehow bump there way back up, hell i still use them to this day lol
Cardians can OTK
I think cyberse would be good if there was a link cyberse monster that lets you draw for each link cyberse monster you summon like the T.G. Synchro
Honestly, Cyberse is a pretty good deck when you can open a decently consistent 3-card combo that ends with Cyberse Witch + Honeybot + Cyberse Magician. Heck, I even built a $30 variant that does the same thing fairly good. Of course, it’s no meta deck and can’t handle disruption that well and the combo loses to non-targetting removal. Granted if Cyberse Magician is destroyed it searches any Cyberse monster and later can be banished with cynet ritual to generate 2 tokens
Once we finally get Cynet Codec, Micro Coder, Code Radiator, and Code Talker in that structure deck, Cyberse will actually be a pretty decent Link Spam/Beatdown deck.
I've been playing it recently, and it's a pretty good Link Spam deck once the Codec searches start popping off. Extra Linking with 5 "code Talker" monsters is super satisfying.
I also enjoy OTKing with Clock Dragon and locking with Transcode & Honeybot + Magician.
Alec's tears got me LMFAO at 1am waking up everybody. I wasn't ready🤣
Hey at least you have Borrel Regenerator Now, it's a great support card and definitely worth picking up.
Also I don't think you should've put Cyberse on this because they got support in the OCG that doubled their strength IMO and even managed to win a tournament in the OCG!
We play the TCG.
Just wait! Rokkets are becoming competitive with savage strike support
5:57, Did you just predict the rise of Salamangreats in the meta?
The Secret Six Samurai matter in Duel Links at least, including the boss monster.
Man I want rokkets to be good, I love them, their art is cool and their bosses are AMAZING, they need another monster that can special two rokkets from your grave when targeted from an link monster, but negate their effects and destroy em during the end phase or something that helps them with floating, they don't get enough monsters on board to summon their borrel or topologic monsters
I never played rockkets but it was fun watching them do stuff unlike goki who go off doing anything. Rockkets were way more fun than some of the meta stuff going on
My biggest problem with Rokkets is when your opening hand is clogged with Rokket Monsters and you don't have Boot Sector Launch to get rid of them. You Just set a Rokket and pass, and with how fast a game goes, you'll get run over by your opponent before you get to summon your Borrel Link Monster, let alone knowing how it takes a considerable field setup for Rokkets to get going (Borrel Link Monster, 1 or 2 different Rokket monsters, Boot Sector Launch, possibly a face down trap like Solemn Strike.)
3:45 - this is rokkets too lol. You really need the field spell and you need to know how to manage your resources according to the situation.
I think another huge weakness of Magical Musketeers was that every card, iirc, was hard OPT. Like I can accept the monsters being that way; being able to fill a field with Starfire would be broken. But the spells and traps didn’t have to be that way considering they’d become strict minuses after they make one of the monsters get their effect.
For me the most disappointing has to be Vendreads and F.A.
at least they're TCG exclusives, and we have learn from time to time that OCG always knows how to fix a TCG deck when they want to fix it *SPYRAL Flashbacks* *If only Burning Abyss would get their link monster already on TCG* *still waiting on Subterror Guru in TCG*
Vendreads keep getting better. Tons of new zombie/ritual support coming. For f.as, I was hyped too. Went from a werid stun deck that I wanted to play, to a spam deck that u lost a lot of interest in.
4:12 2020 rokkets are calling and they are ANGRY
I use Rokkets in my Blue-eyes deck. The main thing is quick launch. You need that spell to support the Rokkets and make easy links
I’m glad none of my disappointing decks made this list. Dinowrestler, Duston, Cubic...all die to one Solemn Warning or one Ash Blossom :(
Farfa says cyberse are one or two cards from being broken.
He's kidding right? Cyberse have been a joke since their debut and still playing catch up. It's obvious that Konami knows how to make a busted deck. They just choose this deck to be terrible. The best thing cyberse has going for is a little bit of disruption. Cyberse aren't bad turn one but after that they suck.
F.A. was a huge letdown. Just when it seemed like they were finally going to take off, a single hit on the banlist (Ancient Fairy Dragon) took their moment in the sun.
rokket revolt makes the borrel section uncomfortable. Cyberse are slowly getting better too.
The year is only half over and you guys are making this list ALREADY? I guarantee you that by December there will be ten more decks worthy of being on this list!
Why am I always attracted to decks that seem to underperform? A few of my favorite archetypes conceptually, visually or both have been Ghostricks, Frightfurs, Madolche, Aroma and Vendread. What is this curse?
(PS, by "Underperform" I mean they aren't generally considered to be mid-tier or higher when used primarily by themselves. Fluffals are Rogue, but as far as I know that's as high as they got usage-wise.)
Same man :( Galaxy Photons, Yosenju, Weather Painters, Magical Musketeers, Flower Cardians, Superheavy Samurai, Noble Knights and the list goes on and on...
i cri myself to sleep evri nite. At least Weather Painters and Yosenju are getting support while Noble Knights have proven themselves to steal a win here and there. The other ones are rotting :(
Same here with Raidraptors
I used to play Cyberse before Firewall got banned, the soft lock with Cyberse Magician and Honeybot was fun to pull out against people that didn't know about it, but sadly yeah, the deck doesn't work too well, I'm hyped about Salamangreats though!
Rokkets suck now because it plays like it's missing half of its cards. They're more of an engine at this point than an actual deck. Give it a few sets so they get better support.
Amorphages had so much potential with amazing shut down effects. Sadly it falls short having no removal, no search, no real recovery, no counter, no boss, no support of any kind, the limited pendulum scales. Plus the tribute cost dwindled your small amount of resources. Add the fact that Master rule 4 limits how many monsters you can pendulum summon from the extra deck, cuts off their one comeback. Maybe in master rule 3 they could of been a tier deck 3 with OTK potential.
I just found out about this channel a couple of weeks ago. Just recently got back into YGO a month ago via Legacy of the Duelist: Link Evolution. Have been binge watching... Really enjoying the content.
I think I have actually discovered the way they intended the secret 6 to be played, in tandem with the other six samurais, because the secret six a lot of them share the effect if exactly one 6 Samurai would be destroyed by card effect and no others you can banish this card from your graveyard instead,and a lot of the other six samurais share the effect of if this card would be destroyed you can destroy another Six Samurai instead,so what happens or what you do is get some of your secret six into the great first maybe they're like your first line of defense or somethingthat way when your other six samurais hit the field if your opponent goes to destroy like by battle or whatever well you use that six samurais effect to destroy another one instead but since that is a card affect you and then banish a shadow 6 from your graveyard instead that way none of your samurais die and you still have a field of monsters
Vendreads, Lair of Darkness and Secret 6 Sam. I don't think anyone had high expectations for Krawlers. Also I built a very competitive Magical Musket Deck plan on finally competing with it.
You forgot to mention Chemicritter, Digital Bug, Dinomist, Igknight, man, especially Igknight, i used to love them so much because of their bad ass artwork. But now, even with the help of Electrumite, the Igknights still can't do anything on their own. The Igknight boss sure looks awesome, sure it can place an opponent's monster back to the deck non-targeting, but still, it is a minus 3. Rest in peace Igknight
Rokket, archetype that has amazing boss monsters but are basically unable to summon them. Sounds like ice barrier to me
This did not age too well
You guys haven't seen Weather Painters in OCG land and what can they do lol. A bunch of slowly pluses that works under a lot of floodgate is nothing to laugh at
Rokkets aren't getting enough support to make it good. Konami too busy making support for cyberverse.
My only question is: Why not have this video for the end of the year?
Josh Dracoian because lunks didn't come out in last year in December
I think it is because the Yu-gi-oh! year ends shortly after the World Championship.
Konami were really dumb in making support. They made a link monster for a Ritual Deck and a Fusion monster for a Synchro spam deck that needed a link monster.
Speaking of a Vendread Link Monster, what archetypes are you guys hoping get a Link Monster in Vrains Pack 2? Would love to see a Top 10 video on that. Personally I have fingers crossed for Ghostricks. They could really use it :(
I wasted my money on elementsabers and F.A.
I wasted money on f.a too.
@@magicmanscott40k any card can be good you just need to know there strenths
With Magibullets, you have to play where you’re opponent think about where they play they play their spells and traps. Sure any kind of effect negation will shut them down, but that’s why you gotta run tech cards to deal with that.
I don't know how, but Krawlers actually have 2 regional tops. Yeah, I know, I'm surprised too
Idk. Vendread got that extra link combo with gumblar now. And F.A. is just underrated and piloted incorrectly in my opinion. I still need to do more testing with the deck but i have gotten pretty good results and there is a pretty good soft lock that you can use and just so much negation in the deck I still feel like it's getting slept on. But just my opinion.
There's also Amorphage deck, it was an awesome stun deck, but you need too many resources to mantain it self
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Elementsabers litterally need a harpiequeen kind of monsters thats searchable by makani. That way the deck basically always has field.
MAGICAL MUSKETEERS ARE AMAZING. SOME OF THE DECKS ON HERE ARE ACTUALLY QUITE DECENT
Secret Six Sam swarms really well, my friend always gets a huge amount out when he plays it
In 2020 I made a cyberse deck that can end on a 3 negate apollusa red eyed dragoon equiped with the buster lock. If you ask me they are not all that dissapointing.
Congrats on 100k. Can’t wait to see what you got in store for the future! 🙌🙌 Well done SQUAAAAADDDDD
literally the entirety of the spirit warriors set
I still have faith that the cyberse deck would be competitve in the future.
I'm surprised to see Lair wasn't on here. This was something a fair amount of people were looking forward to, the rest dreading, and it seemed like a good concept, but with it being too rare a concept, it had little good support, and only one good search card that came in the deck itself, being Ahrima. If Lair could, on activation, search for a Dark monster that had an effect with a tribute cost, like absolutely every other field spell that's come out for competitive themes these past few years can, then it would have been a good deck.
I can pretty consistently loop 4 cards with elementsabers first turn.
Love the deck turn 1 wipe entire hand of opponet and draw 23 cards 2nd turn ftk. Elementsabers are a sleeper deck ppl just dont knoq how to play them
Anthony Scott it is a glass cannon for sure though if you get stopped early on it can be real hard to recover
Kind of glad Super Quants weren't on this list. I also feel like that's maybe because people forget about them. I'm excited for their upcoming support though
How long / many hours do you guys go over your decks, build new ones and play the game daily?
Remember when LoD was meant to turn over table, break the meta and be apart of every deck with an OP deck momster.... Those where the days
Ofc I would be the guy to pick to pick rokets as my new deck into the link generation.....
TheKidFawFul Rokkets master race
Rokkets will rise, be patient brother...
what do you think about A-Z, technically, it isn't an archetype, but once you get out armed dragon catapult cannon, it's over, you can't touch it, especiially once you get assault core, and crush wyvern equipped, plus maybe a support platform, and buster drake.
Imagine calling rokkets disappointing not knowing they can ftk a year later
I've built an elementsaber invoked deck and although I admit it will never compete with top tier decks like thunder dragons and the rest it is a really good fun deck and can make other decks struggle because between the elements effects and the invoked fusions effects it can be difficult to figure out what to do. I do agree with the tears for vendreads I love them but the support has been mediocre at best and they need a better way to get the monsters and spells especially as you can't use pre-prep on them.
If F.A.'s link monster had had a AFD style field spell popping effect (albeit one limited to the F.A. archetype) then they still could have been in contention, but of course...
I wouldn't even call The Weather painters a link deck, more of a disruption/stun-lite deck that has a link monster too.
They said Cyberse, and I gasped at my Code Talker deck. It’s one of my best ones 😳
I feel like cyberse has good main deck monsters and can flood the field, but it really has nothing to make in the extra deck that’s really worth it, especially the cyberse exclusive link monsters
Krawler floating effects still activat when face down if they are destroyed by card effects
“Vendreds need a search card”
But one of the ritual spell searches form the deck for tributes
I actually got inspired to make a Vendread deck, after seeing an OCG build topping a small tournament. Am I being a fool with that, after listening to this?
Yeah....bought a Spirit Warriors box, made a Weather Painter deck...it sucks, big time. But still, I really like the archetype idea. Like you said: It does alot of nothing
Man, I'm still goin to get a Vendread Deck but it just fell too quickly. If only they can add more support to them.
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I have an Invoked Elementsaber deck and it's WAY better than just pure Elementsaber. Definitely try Invoked in the deck and only run like 2 of the Elemental Lords and the deck becomes way more consistent
Still have some hope for Rokkets. Vrains is still running and Revolver (Varis) might still run new support into this deck. There needs to be more spam in this deck. A Link-3 targeting Borrel Dragon too? A better Link 2 engine then Miniborrel Dragon would be nice also.
Hey hey! Krawlers and Vendreads are my 2 favourite decks this link era!
3:22 when your decks best card is a continuous trap that banishes opponents monsters upon battle your deck is too slow.
I believe that guardragons will save rokkets
I completely forgot about weather painters
#1. Lair of Darkness
John Smith what's worse that or the fairy deck?
The fairy deck is amazing
InfinityCorps but that basically flopped too didn't it? No real showing or tops, which isn't ALWAYS needed for a deck to exist (duh) but in the vain of what they're talking about it seemed to under perform
Well it depends if people choose to use it and it lost or it didn't get used an we don't know how it would have performed.
InfinityCorps well no there's no wondering it just didn't, regardless if people lost with it or not. if it had that potential SOMEONE would have had success with it, if BAs can win a nationals a new structure deck would have seen play too IF it was good. In the BA example he must of been in the hand full of people to even bother with BA in a room full of skystriker-trickstars and gouki. The amount of people doesn't matters it's the decks strengths
I enjoy playing my cyberse deck for fun with my friends
I don't find Link Era Six Sam disapointing at all , just worried about Isolde getting hit
Top ten decks that are depressing:
10-1: spirits
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The one that really chaps my ass is the Cyberse deck. It's so close i think, but it just falls short. As a tier 2 deck, its spam is decent, but against anything even remotely meta, it loses... quickly.
Thanks for not putting my deck in there i feel better
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