Moneyball Clinic: EINTRACHT FRANKFURT | Team, Tactic & Transfer Guide | FM24
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2024
- Predicted to finish 5th, Eintracht Frankfurt have had a pretty torrid time in FM. Failing to meet expectations on a single occasion, they even managed to get themselves relegated. What did Toppmoller get wrong, and how can we fix it? And, can we get them into the Champions League spots?
MONEYBALL CLINIC
A team guide series, using a statistic-led approach to squad assessment, tactic building and recruitment.
CLARIFICATIONS
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads.
In the UK, 2 Unlimited released No Limit without the rap, retaining only the word "Techno, techno, techno, techno". I appreciate that Ray Slinjgaard did, therefore, actually contribute more than 4 words.
The screenshot used for Skhiri and Knauff for comparison had not been filtered by position (showing their pizza chart compared to all players rather than their specific position group)
FEEDBACK
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METHODOLOGY
I performed 10 full detail simulations of the Top 30 leagues to create a single database to give me insight into player and team performances under the current Match Engine. Set up in real world mode, with the first transfer window disabled. Teams were able to make transfers in January, allowing us to get a sense of what the AI considers each team's areas of weakness.
All player statistics were exported for players in active leagues who played over 900 minutes, aggregated and then standardised to per 90 metrics. All player recommendedations will come from this pool.
League results were similarly exported, and averaged out to help give a high level overview of team performance, which will instruct us on the state of teams at the start of the game and provide a baseline for us to measure against. I'll be using the save file from the season that is the closest representation of a team's average performance to then drill further into specific details.
No editor files were used as part of this process, ensuring that the guide provided is applicable to the vanilla game.
FILES
Maybe you want to take a look at the saves for yourself? Have at it:
Holiday Simulation 1: www.mediafire.com/file/xji85w...
Holiday Simulation 2: www.mediafire.com/file/9azptg...
Holiday Simulation 3: www.mediafire.com/file/odcjrp...
Instant Result Simulation: www.mediafire.com/file/mv540u...
Tactic: www.mediafire.com/file/h4puzd...
MUSTERMANNFM
A veteran of the FM series, going all the way back to Championship Manager Italia in 1993 (yes, I'm old). Creator of the Mustermann skins (links below) and recently started creating CZcams content. Awful sense of humour.
MODS USED
Mustermann Iconic Skin: bit.ly/46zPxAP
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Background & Stadiums Megapack: sortitoutsi.net/graphics/styl...
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DONATIONS
If, for whatever reason, you are so enamoured with this skin you want to send me a coffee, feel free to donate via PayPal: www.paypal.com/donate/?busine.... I would like to stress there is no obligation whatsoever!
MUSIC
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One of the best moments in an afternoon when you open the CZcams app and notice that you have posted a new video.
Aww, you're making me blush 😊 thank you
The work you put into these videos is astonishing, dude! You brought such an in-depth approach to FM that it just amazes me.. just please KEEP THESE VIDEOS COMING!!!!
Thank you, dude 🙏
It's obviously a challenge to make FM look "interesting", but hopefully I go a little way towards making it look less like a glorified spreadsheet 😂
@@mustermannfm yeah, i bet! Looking forward to seeing you try a save in Brazil!
Love how you highlighted the stats you will be looking at. Very helpful. 😊
Glad it was helpful!
I could go on for quite a while about how good your videos are but I’ll just keep it simple, fantastic every time and all the time!
Thank you 😊- I'm just glad that people are enjoying it!
@@mustermannfm your series are the best on CZcams in regards to football manager, nowhere near what we have seen before so not thank me but thank you :)
@@cormacohalloran9096 I really appreciate the kind words!!
Techno, techno, techno! Great video mate! Love how you break everything down and make it sound simple.
Thank you very much, dude!
I truly believe that it is, ultimately, simple. Just intimidating to start with.
Been refreshing all afternoon! Thank you sir! Fantastic one there! Especially the "No Limits" moment!
I am here to slowly address the lack of 90s eurodance references in FM videos 😂
very good. deep detail and stat driven. Always trying to learn more than just looking at attributes and expand my game. Thanks for the effort behind the scenes
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Absolutely love the money ball series! Great work
Thank you very much, dude!
As always brilliant, just brilliant. Your methodology and insights has made playing the game so much more worthwhile.🙏🏾
Thank you very much 🙏 just glad that people find something useful from it!
Also, I've just seen the donation. You are far too kind, thank you!!
Best content, keep up the good work and keep bringing out new videos.
I subscribed to you because you do everything in great detail and put a lot of effort into it.
Thank you 🙏 glad you enjoy it
Thank you so much for making a video about my favorite club! Keep up the good work man :D
Hope you'll forgive me for saying mean things about Rode. Not his fault that he's rubbish in FM
@@mustermannfm No worries man if he wasnt a legend i wouldve sold him in every career cause he always complains about lacking playtime😭😭
@@mads...1793 the fact he starts the game with retirement set kind of makes it impossible to sell him. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Same with Hasebe. I'm not taking over a job and then immediately selling the 40 year-old. Just too heartless.
@@mustermannfm well atleast they help with the international squad regulations😭
Best fm content out there right now, no question.
Thank you, dude! Far too kind!!
Excellent video as always!
Thank you, dude! It is safe to say that things fell apart a little after I sent that screenshot 😂
Another top class video dude!
Thank you very much 🙏
Did you hear Man Utd are rebuilding staff... They could do with someone like you. Amazing work! Great content and very enjoyable. I have been playing FM for over 20 years and I never saw the game in such a detailed way. A big round of applause👏
😂😂 Thank you, dude!
Love these moneyball videos. It's a different approach from what I usually go in Football Manager and I'll probably run with it when I inevitably get bored with this years cycle.
Glad you're enjoying them!!
I heartily recommend giving it a try. It is, if anything, actually easier. You're signing players you know will perform, rather than hoping players live up to their attributes.
Love these vids! Is that a skin on the squad overview if so what is it? Love how in depth everything is 👏🏼
As mentioned in the description:
"The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads."
Love these vids soooo much
Thank you, dude!
Is there a particular team you'd like to see? (this isn't a commitment to doing it - the list is growing far larger than I'll ever be able to do before FM25 is out, but I'm always interested to know)
Great episode again. Though I would have liked for you to do a test before the signings with only the tactical changes as you did with the Sevilla episode, since you could have found different areas of improvement. The last part was great, seeing unexpected players getting great performances is one of the great things about FM
Thank you for the feedback. I will consider it for future episodes. After the Sevilla episode, I had initially decided I did not feel it provided any value as it detracts from the holistic approach, but I will reconsider.
Yeah I get you, at the moment you start using the tactic, it's already your involvement in the simulations and the problems you'll identify were not the original ones. I did like that approach, though, and I think we'll have great videos whatever is the approach you use
@@kingameno6492 as with everything, it's a learning process. I'm still working out how I want to do the series, and refining as I go...so who knows what future episodes have in store 😂
For the next moneyball clinic, it would be very nice to see a 2nd or even 3rd tier team and see how moneyball can help a team with almost zero transfer budget and having to rely only on expiring contracts, loans and market opportunities. I've started a campaign with 1860 München and it could help me a lot taking some insights with this team or similar. And as always, you've done a marvelous work!
I don't want to give false hopes, so whilst there will be some 2nd tier teams eventually, it might be a little while before that happens - the next 5 or 6 episodes are already kind of set (with one of them in the Championship). The data set I've created focuses on the Top 30 leagues, so lower than that is unlikely, I'm afraid.
Edit: Although the principles remain the same. You're looking for performance, so free agents and players not playing is tough unless you're a couple of years in and can look back at performances whilst they've been contracted. This is one of the oft ignored aspects of Moneyball - it prioritises performance over potential. E.g. it is much better to sign someone who you KNOW can perform, than the hedge your bets on someone that you THINK might be able to perform.
Otherwise, look for performance indicators the same here. Compare against your own team, and search for players who perform better in key metrics for the role you want them to play.
@@mustermannfm As always, thanks for the attention and for your work in increasing the challenge (and fun factor) for us.
your graphics and videos always enthrall me, they're so detailed and pretty i love em'. What programs do you use if you dont mind my asking; I'd love to create similar graphics with my own works. Thanks for the vids
Just FM, Figma and DaVinci Resolve. My knowledge/skills are very limited, but I've found a way to make things occasionally work as I want.
Because I made the skin before I even embarked on YT, I have all the assets I created in Figma. I then use the protoyping facilities for recreating some things to make them appear as if they happen in game (not so much for this video, but that's how I've done a lot of the transitions in the PAOK series, for example). I also can't draw for toffee, so use Figma for illustrations. Taking reference photos and drawing boxes over the top. All very unelegant 😂. Things that have had an animation element is usually done through Figma prototyping, too.
That said, I've noticed a drop in resolution quality on Figma's prototyping, and recently started using DaVinci Resolve for editing, so trying to get as much done either in game, or inside Resolve itself.
Took me far too long to get to this, my apologies. You're really hitting your stride now though. Nothing in the community comes close to this, bravo sir.
Now we just need some kind of Kitchen Nightmare's style intro and it'll be top tier, hahahaha
Now that would be something! Knives being sharpened and all!!
Also...never any need to apologise!
@@mustermannfm hahahaha yeah go on, better yet. Oil your calculator or something. Whatever is the moneyball equivalent
Hello mate, love the series and all the content you provide across all your videos, you're a very insightful guy and I'm learning a lot. The thought and effort you put into making your videos is truly commenable and it really makes for videos of the highest caliber.
I apologise if this has been asked/answered before, but is the spreadsheet of player data is publically available in the same, or similar, way your save files and tactics are? I would really enjoy cifting through that data for myself to practice my analysis skills and I don't have the time (or, let's be honest, effort) to put together something like that myself. Thanks!
No, it's not publicly available, for a few reasons:
1) I knew it was about to become outdated as soon as the patch gets released. After all, players have had attributes changed, and that will impact performance, which will require tests to be rerun. Same goes, when the next patch is released, too.
2) It's a live document that is not in any way built with the intention of it being useful for anyone other than me. I don't plan on tidying up a document for public release that I know is only temporary (see 1.)
3) It is a tool for the concept of the series. You are best served extracting that data from the game yourself after you've played through a season. When the game starts you won't have performance data available, but you will be the time you've been able to actually see your players play games. Data from your own game world will always be more valuable.
I appreciate the detailed reply! It's a shame but that all makes sense, so fair enough.
In my mind I wanted to use it mostly as a means of making 1st season transfers as recently I've been playing mostly short-term (1 or 2 season) saves with the first transfer window enabled - so for a significant period of my saves I'm restricted in the pool of data I have available. Therefore reason 3 probably applies less to me personally than it would to others. Although, as a general rule, I would agree wholeheartedly with your point that my own data is infinitely more useful and that is how I'm currently playing the game. The intention was never to abondon that completely in favour of your data - merely fill in the blanks at the start of each save.
In saying all of that I'm possibly an outlier in how I am playing and I totally understand your first two points. Perhaps I'll have to try and muster the effort to create something for myself. Cheers again, and have a good Sunday. Looking forward to the next video :)
@@Cosafish even in those situations, using your own gameworld will still be more beneficial. How you set up, in terms of leagues/detail level/etc... will result in a different pool of players available.
It's not hard to set up your own version, though. When you start a new save, start with someone unemployed. Go on holiday until the end of the first season. Go to Player Search -> Set up a view with stats and export that. Then go back to the start of your save and take over a team normally. This way you'll have the information, and it will be relevant to your actual game.
@@mustermannfm Of course, I'm not discounting that. I do think that there are pros and cons to both sides, but it would be a purely academic exercise to discuss it and I don't wish to take up more of your time than needs be.
And sorry if it sounds like I'm being a contrarian, I have a tendancy to play devil's advocate and I quite enjoy these types of discussions as I often learn a lot from them.
As for the advice in your second paragraph I really appreciate it, and I'll be doing this when I next have some spare time.
Fred and Rose West!!!! When I was in the Army, one of my regiment mates was called Tony West was called Fred. Always makes for top borderline bants humour.
I hope the nickname was just because of his name, and not because he shared a personality!
@@mustermannfm absolutely the case! Short Fred anecdote - one Sunday Fred drank far too much to the point that he was still drunk from his bender. We had to lock him in his own locker and keep him hidden away until he sobered up. Those were the days!
@@BretHiggins 🤣🤣
I do have to say, you pronounce Polish names pretty well. Benedyczak was very good and I remember during paok saves you even pronounced Raków Częstochowa correctly. I think it's fair to assume you don't speak Polish too often so I'm really impressed by that.
Thank you! That's a genuine relief to hear - I try and do my research, and that often involves finding commentary in foreign languages so I can hear it said natively (rather than trusting those "how to prounounce" websites). I know it's not perfect, or even close to it - in fact the bit that makes the final cut is usually a case of "that's close enough" after I've got it wrong hundreds of times in previous takes 😂
Got a new request for you -- there's rumors of a Liga MX, MLS merger. I know there's tons of mods out there, ans I sure you know some people.
I think that would be really flipping cool to explore! It would actually be a really solid league.. both leagues rank as low as like 9 to as high as low 20s globally. I have to imagine the combination of the two with a tier system (honestly probably 4 tiers deep worth of talent) would make for a top 5-8 league in the world.
I just think it would be cool to explore
That does sound interesting. I'd be surprised for the MLS to open itself up to that idea. But then, I suppose the Leagues Cup has potentially been building towards that.
@mustermannfm mls wants validation adding in Club America and FC Monterrey would do that I think.
Were at a stage now we're there are several MLS clubs who would be good enough to enjoy a relegation battle in the PL, whereas those teams listed above would probably be mid table in the PL.
And Liga MX would enjoy the marketing power of the MLS
thanks for your work. detail by detail what a nice way to play FM! And is there any chance to make a Gladbach analysis video as well? Really love your work!!
because Gerardo Seoane is another pure shite 😅😅
I'll add them to the list, but realistically probably won't be until FM25 at this rate!!
thanks for that😀@@mustermannfm
Hi mate love the skin! How should we setup our saves to make sure accurate data from the top20 leagues across the world works properly?
There isn't a specific set up that is required - it really comes down to your PC's capability and what you want from the save. I do explain how/why I set up leagues in the PAOK series here: czcams.com/video/f-H4GfG9mH0/video.html
awesome video series idea! please do one chelsea, we need a saviour
Chelsea are in consideration. Thinking of maybe doing one using "Your World" mode so as to imagine it is without Pochettino and the summer transfers at all.
It's a little difficult to take a proper Moneyball approach with a club who has such a blatant disregard for market values and wages.
I’d love to see this done at Leeds. We’ve got some great youngsters who play multiple positions so I’d be interested to see how the CPU fits them in and the data that comes with it
I'll add them to the list, but I doubt I'll get to them before FM25 is released!
Awsome video again is the skin been updated? as when you select player pizza graph comes up on left now
No. There will be future updates to the skin, but this will not be included as it makes it impossible to view players not currently at club (e.g. out on loan) or international squads at all.
@mustermannfm oh OK thank shame tho looks so much better and more effective
I know, right. I was heartbroken when I discovered the issue! Even had it so that you could compare players on the screen (it uses the training screen, where you can select multiple players, and had it that whenever you had multiple selected it would have mini profiles with just their pizza charts - like here: x.com/MustermannFM/status/1760426474333487263?s=20)
Great video as always. Love your content.
I noticed the squad view looks different than mine in the skin, has it been update or how do I get that view? Thanks
As mentioned in the video description:
The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads.
@@mustermannfm ok thanks mate. Sorry didn’t see in description. Looks amazing though.
@@shaunhoward7876 no apology necessary. I genuinely find it heartbreaking that it's not something I can add to the public release. One of my favourite things I worked on.
Great video Sir Mustermann!! question, do you have a baseline stats available somewhere similar to FMSTAG that one could use?
Not as a publically available table, no. The baseline stats are available by using the pizza charts in the Mustermann skin (or other skins that have incorporated the pizza chart).
@@mustermannfm ohh I see, thanks.
I’d be very curious of how you would set up your recruitment focuses if you didnt have the spreadsheet from the first season. I supoose you get your potential targets from the spreadsheet
I'd set up recruitment foci the same way I do here: czcams.com/video/_ENLzv68fuM/video.html - it's just about building a pool of players.
Very unrelated but I have been following Ebimbe since his debut for PSG in 2021. I just thought his name was funny for some reason. Very cool to see him perform so well (albeit in a simulation game)
He seems to be a cracking player in-game. I saw his name pop-up in the Scouting Centre for my PAOK save, and was genuinely disappointed that I don't currently have a need for his position(s)!!
Not seen him in real life, though, so can't comment - but if this is anything to go by, he looks promising!
@@mustermannfm Don’t watch much Bundesliga but, based off his ratings, he seems a tad inconsistent. But obviously can’t trust ratings. Even so, didn’t expect Ebimbe to even reach the height of starting for a top 6 German team!
@@GCVideos and he's still young - plenty of potential to get even better!
unique , just as always , nothing but unreal unique . my only problem still remain the same . what do i need when the transfer market is open 😂 so i most of the time ending just sign a lot .. however i have one note according to musterman Skin , WANTED manager icon do not appear on manager page , so i just got shoked that ( in may save ) that your ( real life Team AV ) wants me . i changed the skin to see , it is real 🤦🏻♂️😂 but when i went back to musterman skin its just disappears . . i know you already said that u dont want to update the skin and want to play the game ( which we are also enjoys as well even if its ( u ) play the game , not we 😂 ) but still hope that u adress only the main bugs on the skin and fix it ( if , only if ) wont takes much time . . . greeting bro , u the best , and i mean it .
Paragraphs, my dude! They make it a lot easier to read 😂
As mentioned before, there will be updates to the skin - they will just be a few weeks after any patches that update the ME! Thank you for raising the issue, though. I'll add it to the fixlist.
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Which Pizza chart should I use for mid strata? There is a Pizza chart for DMs and for AMs. But Which one is for CMs???
Depends on the role the player is used. If they're a midfielder whose primary job is to attack, AM. If their primary job is defensive or supporting build up, DM.
@@mustermannfm which of is for box2box then or CM on support? Hmmm
@@PabloCheerNightShow I would use DM, personally
Hi mate, been meaning to ask you this but when you do your IR sims how do you set up your responsibilities?
Everything delegated except transfers. Although, as I holiday between games - that is set to accept all offers, but only for transfer listed players.
I basically treat it like a regular holiday simulation, with the only difference being that I select the lineup for each game.
@@mustermannfmI tend to not holiday my saves so if you’re not simulating would you do anything differently?
@@letri6593 I don't tend to holiday either. Literally this series is the only time I've done simulations or used the Instant Result button at all. So in that respect, there isn't great consideration as to the setup - I was just trying to find a way to address the inability to set up a rotational hierarchy/squad depth.
In terms of a normal save, I have no hard and fast rules. I try and think about the "character" of the manager and what they would be involved in. And so, responsibilities tend to be narrative driven. So what is delegated changes save to save. I appreciate this isn't a helpful answer 🤣
I have a question regarding the amount of headers won/90. Would you still believe a low amount of header won/90 is concerning if a CB is playing in a top of the league team? Maybe he is not involved in many challenges because the team is spending most of the time attacking or with the ball. But I would like to know your thinking.
A fair question, and yes, teams who are dominant are likely to contest fewer aerial challenges. That extends to all defensive metrics, as there are not possession-adjusted stats in the game. And often I would priority % won as far more valuable.
In this situation, Frankfurt averaged 51% possession, and so were not a particular dominant team, and as seen with the other centre-backs, they were (relatively) quite active in that regard. I should've possibly stressed more that whilst Tuta won the majority of his headers, 61% is low for a centre-back who is not a set-piece target.
Roles can also play a part. A cover duty is less likely to engage in those initial duels, but we know he was used as a Wide Centre Back, where that duty is not an option.
It is also important to stress that by being concerned, that doesn't mean that a player isn't capable, but it is useful for understanding the profile of a player. Tuta might struggle in a backs-to-the-wall, park-the-bus, defensive system, or alongside another centre-back who is aerially challenged. But recognising this means we can be mindful of such when constructing a tactic.
@@mustermannfm Great answer, thanks! It happens to me in my save. I play Leverkusen and doing well but my CBs have low percentile bars altought they win the majority of their headers. That's why I wanted to know your reasoning. 👌
I have your skin but when looking at scoutreports i don't see attributes listed the same way as you do in this video?
As mentioned in the description:
"The squad view in the skin in this video is not part of the public release. This is because it causes a number of issues elsewhere - including, but not limited to, being unable to see players out on loan or international squads."
@@mustermannfm ah sorry about that didn’t see it.
Love your work dude
@@simoneriksson8724 no apology necessary. I don't expect anyone to read the description, but I put it there anyway because I know people will ask 😂
These are always fun to watch and I love the extra bit of knowledge I grab out of them every time.
That said, if you DO go to South America...Palmeiras is there for you to peruse.
South America IS on the horizon - 3 episodes away, in fact (best laid plans and all that). Vasco da Gama were the team I had my eye on for Brazil, I must admit. Recently(-ish) promoted and had legends like Juninho, Bebeto and Romario.
@@mustermannfm They're a solid choice of the bunch too, especially as they narrowly avoided relegation this last season from Serie A on the last day. Bahia is an intriguing one too as they now are part of the City Group as well.
@@BrasilianFury I have a series "concept" for the City Group, that I'll never have the time to put into serious consideration.
The premise was to bring down the entire City Group from the inside. The trick being that you have to be successful enough to essentially get promoted through the entire group, saddling each side with overpaid, old players on long contracts - ones that are good enough to bring success, but all on the precipice of regression.
What happened to the Kolo Muani money? There were no transfers in 23/24 but the money disappeared?
They made transfers in 23/24 - €59m worth in fact. Dina Ebimbe, Pacho, Max, Knauff, Larsson, Skhiri, Koch, Ngankam, Nkounkou and Chaibi were all new arrivals over the summer.
@@mustermannfm Yes, that's right but all of them came before Kolo Muani left. So there should be a lot of money left over. It seems very unrealistic that nothing happened after the Kolo Muani transfer.
@@user-zg4vu4lj6q depends on a few factors - SI might contend that there was indication that Frankfurt knew all along that Kolo Muani would be sold before the end of the transfer window and some of their activity beforehand was with this in mind. They might also contend that the funds generated on September the 1st weren't intended to be part of the summer transfer window.
Might be interesting to see what their budget is now the new patch is out.
How long did it take for that sim to be completed? 😂
Joking aside: Great vid this!
Surprisingly not too long! Not that I properly notice - I'll write the script whilst it's processing, so I'm distracted. I think there's one simulation where I completely forgot about the game for 4 hours. It was just sitting there waiting for me to save and run a new sim 😂
@@mustermannfm i saw everything simmed in full detail i was like wooow 😳 Full detail and lots of leagues loaded seems to be the way to go for most realistic results and balanced saveworld, but i’m always hesitant for the game becoming too slow 😂
@@KevinV90 oh the baseline sims - yeah they took ages! I work from home, though - so it was 2 a day. One whilst working, one whilst sleeping. Then cross my fingers and pray when importing the data into Google Sheets 😂
Please do River Plate. I am waiting for that episode.
I am planning to head to South America in a few episodes time, but team not decided yet. I'll add them to the list.
Do River Plate pleaseeeeee!!!!!
The second request for River Plate under this video!! I will be heading to South America in 3 episodes time, but I haven't confirmed the club (or country) yet! I will keep this in mind, though
7:50 your skin receive an update?
No. That is an edit just for this video. The changes sadly cause issues elsewhere, including being unable to see players who are out on loan or international squads and so won't be incorporated in future releases.
Robin who?
Robin KOCH. Really need to emphasise that strong CH sound 😇
@@mustermannfm ehehhehehhehhehehehhehehehe