What's going wrong for Liverpool? - Liverpool fans REACT to European Exit!
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- What's going wrong for Liverpool? - Liverpool fans REACT to European Exit!
Dan & Chloe discuss what is going wrong for Liverpool at the moment following The Reds Europa League exit at the hands of Atalanta. Liverpool fell to a 3-1 aggregate defeat in the Quarter-Final.
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We can't score at the moment from open play.
That's the biggest issue. Our entire front line is out of form.
I love Klopp, but I think his tactics being him close but not over the line. Indeed it leads to exhausted players. Don't get me wrong corruption and FFP means he could have won more.
He should have played the kids. The senior players can't be arsed.
We haven't played heavy metal football for years. The tiredness excuse cannot be used.
This Liverpool team is absolutely unable to control football games at the moment leading to a constant barrage of chances for opposing teams. Add our lack of composure in front of goal and it’s a shit show
Hey - we managed to get the desired result tonight, don't you know! The idea was to _look_ like we were giving it a go. In the prem title race, the other 2 went out of euro comp last night and will be hurting. Klopp is laughing that he could get a win with zero fuss that also saw them exit. Match-fixing by any other name, you could say. I'm fairly sure Atalanta would have bit hands off to take a nice 1-0 defeat on the night.
No mystery its 2 years ago repeating itself when we were on for the quad 2 years ago team looked gassed then with the exception of Mane now we look the same but no mane to get us out of games .. squad not big enough to challenge in 4 cups .
Didn't learn from 2 years ago
2 years ago repeating itself squad not enough quality to take on 4 cups ..
They've been like that on and off all season. Maybe ,if Klopp leave Salah and Nunez out we might gel in front.
The time is coming, and the change of manager is needed. Klopp we love ya, but fresh blood, fresh ideas, fresh new players is where we must go. LFC, YNWA the future is bright
A big reason for our success over the years were the overlaps on the wings which drags defenders out and creates more space in the middle. At the moment it feels like we are a massive triangle where the ball just gets played across the back four then forced through the middle. We are crying out for width, stretch the pitch and create overloads. I'm tired of seeing Diaz pick the ball up on the halfway line completely isolated, and tired of watching Mo hold onto the ball then pass it back to Ali. Natural wingers are needed
Maybe next manager needs to be a badass. No more Mr Nice Guy
Expect more of this in the final games - teams will go for the early goal, then go man to man and press like crazy
Klopp has this team run into the ground. Thankfully there's major changes incoming.
Don't exaggerate. Other clubs have just as many games, press just as hard. He didn't prioritise the first leg and with it going the way it did, he certainly didn't care too much in the second. We also like to think we're still in the title race (we are indeed) and with the other two going out last night, you have to think Klopp was happy to even things up by accepting an early EL exit. It wasn't fatigue that saw all the dicking around at the back, passing back to Alisson, when a second goal would have thrown the tie wide open. It was a thinly-veiled desire to exit comp to focus on the prem.
He isn't. Klopp routinely runs players into the ground. His record, both at dortmund and with us, bears this out. Maybe wake up/accept reality@@neillynch_ecocidologist
@neillynch_ecocidologist it did look that way. Well see on Sunday if it was worth it.
@@bobadicious Bottom line is the result of the final fixture and where it leaves us. Sunday should see a LOT more effort. And ideally a meaningful win to contrast with last night's meaningless one.
He's doing that while telling them he's knackered so he's leaving. He's lost the player's, Klopp has mentally checked everybody out. The new signings who believed that they were signing up for Klopps Liverpool must feel like they've been fed a bunch of bullshit. Fair play to the team I didn't think they'd last as long as they have but now it's over.
I'd start Quansah, Clark and Danns at Fulham, we need to get some fresh energy into the side.... Elliott should certainly start his the only one who has been consistant
Last night was far worse than the first leg and the palace game, at least we created so many chances not taken, last night first half apart from the pen we had THREE shots on target, 2nd half we had ONE shot on target, something is dreadfully wrong behind the scenes, how does 6-7 players go from scoring 7-8 /10 to now 3-4 /10.
It is now the blue print for any team to beat us, press high up, let our players go for a stupid long ball, never give away a panalty since it is only Liverpool way to score, instead let them throw 1V1 they will miss!
END OF SEASON AND ERA...
For the last few weeks it seems every opponent has outthought Klopp and outplayed the tactics and team and we have no answer to it.
teams done seasons done we ain't winning another game
I think it’s a combination of things - yes the team is tired, but the way we play forces that on the players come be business end of the season. We also concede early in most games, finally, we don’t play well when man marked and heavily pressed. So team look to score against us early, then man mark us and press hard - as we are no without the energy our basic game plan is exposed. To improve we need to develop into a team that can win without relying on blitz Kreig counter attacking - we need to have a plan B which is more like the City approach - then of course we also need to be clinical
Have you ever seen someone when the Adrenalin is exhausted? - that’s what we look like
The team is physically and mentally spent, and has been for a while, due to Klopps style. All his career he has flogged his players to death. Quite simply, his style is unsustainable over the course of a season and over successive seasons. This is why we have non entity seasons every other/third season. The players are burnt out. This is why we have won 1 league title in 9 years, the same as Leicester City, who did it with far less money/resources than us. Not exactly a great record for someone regarded as "elite" and paid millions.
Hope the next guy has a more sustainable playing style than Klopp.
I agree with all of this. You’re spot on.
I agree with you 100%.
Most is right but we lost the league twice by a point fine margins if we had that again who nos it could go are way
Totally agree, Klopp is a great person and great manager,but not a legend,due to him loosing as many finals as won and not getting over the line in the league.
I agree with most of that assessment but you have to factor in that going up against the city juggernaut isn’t easy and I’m surprised we managed to topple them just the once
I think Klopp and the players decided not to bother with Europa after the 0-3 thrashing. Klopp to me sound defeated in his pre press conference. I think their focus is on securing top 4 with the energy they have left. Hopefully they fight for the PL till the end but I think once they mathematical secure 3rd spot they’ll give up.
Chloe Bloxom: “Mo Salah! Best In The World!!” Actually, No Chloe… No He’s Not..
Still living in the past
That’s the problem with redmen to, they literally do live in the past and they can’t see the obvious fact that this team / manager / tactics all need a massive shake up. As much as I love Klopp I’m actually looking forward and really excited to see a new manager / tactics come in
Let's not let recency bias make us forget how good Salah has been for us. Maybe the time has come for him to move on, but Salah has been world class since joining.
True if it was up to redmen tv they would still keep henderson even though it is pretty clear he is finished.
I’ve been watching this channel for years but I’m finding myself watching less and less.
There’s only so many times you can hear someone describe things as “absolutely unbelievable”
There is something else going on that we dont know,players leaving.
I have never seen a Liverpool team ever give up until now.
The last month we dont even look like scoring, plenty of ball no end product!
What? How many times have we seen this with a Klopp team? Last season - up/down, lack of energy, odd results until last 9 matches when we got in a groove.
Guys you’re forgetting the fact that several players have been out for long periods of the season. So I’m not buying that they’re knackered.
i ordered a chicken tikka mosalah with chips i got a f salahd
Really refreshing to hear Chloe talk and not be interrupted or cut off 😂😂😂
Great program. I'm glad you saw what I saw in that second half. Awful display, subs made no impact at all. That miss by Salah in the first half was the key. Going into the second half 2-0 and you never know. Same old. One positive...we didn't concede.
As sloppy as it gets. Inconsistent, casual, zero chemistry and tactic, just punting balls to and fro to no one in the proximity. Pathetic really. They will finish with the absurd Caraboa Cup and that is all. Big whoop!
ALL GONE TOO SHIT😮
Not really at all. The club manufactured an exit (less games) under the pretence of winning away in Italy (on the night, the match finished 1-0 to Liverpool). *None* of the top 3 in the prem are in Europe anymore.
Game on?
Sell Salah ffs
The performance was as bad as the last 2 games. The only goal we could score was the penalty.
We just looked toothless and once the 2nd half started you just knew it wasn’t going to happen. Usually in the last 10 minutes you start to think we can still do this. But tonight you just thought we couldn’t score an open goal for the last 260 minutes so how can we score at least 2 in the last 10 minute of this game.
The problem as started since Salah and Sozlabhi return, the energy went when they came back.. Jones returning as made us slower than ever.
The bottom line is Macca, Endo, Nunez, Diaz, Gapko, Elliott, Bradely, Quansah Kellecher, Gavenberch, Clarke carried this team since February.
We waited for the big guns to return from injury and they have all failed to deliver.... Salah miss today, was the worst miss of the season
I don’t think Bayer L spent loads of dosh on players - they are absolutely flying. It can be done, but need a better system and manager and identify players that are good enough. Can’t have players in the team that constantly miss chances or cannot defend, or too slow.
Klopp is mentally and emotionally goosed. He thought he had enough in the tank until the end of the season, but has fallen just short. You can see it in his press conferences, particularly when we don’t win. He just wants it to be over. It’s really sad, but there is no escaping it, and it has unintentionally transferred to the players.
The same as last season; sticking with the same players in the same formation and same style, and refusing to switch it up or drop players. Eg: we looked dangerous and especially unpredictable with Nuñez left and Diaz right, but then Salah came back, Nuñez went back through the middle and we've been poor.. and stuck with it anyway! The kids, the cup final heroes, are completely forgotten too.
Well done red men, forward with confidence, congratulations Atlanta❤
Atalanta si scrive atalanta
The 2nd half was piss poor. We couldn’t get the the ball to the half way line let alone to forward players. We were marked man for man yet again. We were out numbered in the middle of the park and every passing option with their backs towards goal. Everyone who came deep for the ball was tracked and it was easy and repetitive. Klopp should have got the full squad behind the half way line for a period and build up the pitch with triangles and players close enough to win second balls
Klopp's burnt out, players burnt out trying to fight on too many fronts. Needs fresh ideas hopefully new manager can re energise the squad.
We also played way too narrow for too long during the game. We could have benefited from having Diaz really wide stretching the pitch, but instead we just pushed central.
We are really falling apart when the prem is asking to be won, nothing really changes
Looks like team that needs a new message, Klopp is a genius for recognising it is time. No certainty a change brings improvement but recent performances are starting to resemble last season
Excellent Vlog. I can’t believe what am hearing. We have over performed all season up to the last few games. I can remember the beginning of the season and the predictions from some of the panel was possibly win a trophy “tick” and get back into the champions league “tick”. Cause we have over performed we have gone from what should be Very Good season to the End of the world. What am hearing on the grape vine May be it’s time for the likes of Mo and Van Dyke to go if that’s what they want. We could easily go £150-200 mill for them and let the new manager invest in maybe 4-5 new players.
I agree the players don't have it in their tank and look like they can't be arsed! I would play Danns and Clark against Fulham. Elliot not starting would be criminal, too! Id also play Nunez on the wings
Seems like even Jurgen ran out of ideas. He’s making it easier to say goodbye.
I just wonder have the players heard something regarding the new manager.
David Ornstein did an interview with a US TV media network earlier this week. It was clearly orchestrated by FSG.
During the interview Ornstein stated that Amorim possibly wasn’t the number one choice. He spoke about LFC possibly springing a surprise where a new managerial appointment is considered.
There have been other similar rumours this week regarding Amorim not joining LFC, and feels as though FSG wanted the rumours to be in the public domain.
Have the players got wind of who the incoming manager could be and it is an underwhelming option?
Something is off because teams don’t just implode like this. Not when they are getting their long term injured best players back.
idk what kind of training klopp is putting those lads in but it needs to slow down
nice sarcasm
I think he needs to stop teaching them to dick around passing it back to Alisson.
But then that was probably just tonight's tactics (to ensure we got eliminated 'respectably')...
The international 'break' has a lot to answer for here. Let's face it both the Brighton (Welbeck 2mins) and Sheff Utd (Lucky Nunez keeper deflection) games which came straight after, were very very dicey for long periods and it's slipped away from there. The last best performances were the 1-1 against City at Anfield and the Southampton 3-0 in the cup which was a masterlclass performance. Forget the Utd fa Cup game, that was just stupid. I'ts finished. More concerned about Villa 8pts behind us and 3 away games to come.
The way the Atalanta fans started chanting in the last 10 mins was menacing
When was the last time Liverpool scored from open play? 😂
Liverpool have too many players with a "mercenary" attitude. They are professionals who don't have an emotional contact to the club. The fans must understand this. They were knocked out of that cup. OK.. Now play the next game. That's their approach.
Our attacking players have been terrible over the last 4 weeks. That is what has let us down last 4 weeks.
well done girl your content was 100%
It was bound to start to creep onto the pitch. Rumors of players maybe leaving, or wanting to leave, Klopp giving interviews of life after Liverpool, big changes to backroom staff, and uncertainly over new manager. It all slowly adds up. You can also see that Klopp's starting to go on holiday in his mind. Don't want to say this, but I think he's starting to lose the dressing room. It was all good and dandy if everything's going our way, but a slight wobble and you can see things aren't as steadfast as we like to think.
You cant play out from the back if everyone is marked and they're going man for man.
This happened in Klopps first couple of seasons when they ran out of steam
Welcome to the Liverpool excuses show!!!
The reality isn't Klopp or the tactics, it's what we've been seeing consistently throughout the season, IT'S THE FORWARDS. How many chances have we missed from these guys? The reason why we're losing so consistently recently is because our talisman, Salah, left himself with the national team after the injury and looks like a shadow of his former self. Regarding everyone else, the shooting coach should be slapped for not getting them into shape. Jota is our best striker right now....Jota. I used to borderline groan before this season when he came on. Nunez is a monster and with correct practice he'll be hitting 30 goals a year easy. We need to sell a couple of strikers (Gakpo, Salah, Diaz maybe) and buy another couple that can legitimately finish. We should also sell someone from the midfield and bring in a monster DM. Can't wait for Amorim
That bad we’re only 2 points off the top and wanting Amorim in isn’t gonna guarantee success. Always be careful what you wish for because I see us dropping off big time when klopp leaves and could take years before we’re back anywhere near a title battle
We were awful last season. So as a starting point what do you do? Sell 7 players, and sign just 4. The result? Another awful season.
Not difficult really.....
How can you be tired when only 5 players have more than 1900 PL minutes, and only 1 player has more than 2100 mins. Infact only 6 outfield players have more than 1600 mins
You can be mentally tired which is worse than physically at times
many players lost imagine on field
The problem with always playing heavy metal is there are times when it should be laid back blues.
I'm sure he does but Klopp looked at the end that he really wasn't that bothered. Don't know why but he looked happy. Does that rub off on the players? Don't know.
Atlanta were exceptional with their press last night. But worry not opponents who can't press like that, tiki taka football will unravel us at the back, get your goal and then park the bus.
Atalanta si scrive atalanta
The game was like a microcosm for our entire season... started well and had a chance but then just fizzled out with little to no fanfare and a weak wave goodbye.. Poor!
Maybe the dressing room misses James Milner's assertive pep talks.
Sad to see Liverpool running out of steam !
All you have to do is look at the stat of how many touches Alison had and that will tell you everything you need to know about the match. He had the second most touches of all our players 😱
We literally had the perfect start and still bottled it. No hope for the season
We dont have a divine right to win all the time we so needed a second to sustain hope that we could do it. We actually needed some individual flashes of brilliance to shake it up you could see belief draining away. Dan you were right, they didnt have another way. That is why a fresh approach is needed. Konate isnt a play maker. McA not in the best position to do it. Salah off the boil but getting there. Too many not at the hundred percent but near which isnt enough.
Really shouldn’t have bottled the Europa League. There is hope. Gotta try and do a “Leverkusen”, strong set up, defensively robust, go to the market and find those players talent and execution an abilities. This time make sure they can bloody score and not miss like our front line FFS!
The last dance doc is going to be a good watch unless we send klopp off with the premier league and I can’t see that happen I watch the Michael Jordon the last dance doc and that was exceptional but this one could be not very good
If I was betting man I'd put a bet on Liverpool loseing to Fulham as we look hopeless in front of goal. They spent the whole of last night passing the ball back to the goalkeeper rather than actually attacking. The team is a joke right now. The whole team doesn't look like they can be arsed. Sorry but I'm not having this they look tired they get paid enough money to play the game you should be top of your game at all time. This lot should try having kids working 40+ hours per week and do all the other things that need to be done in life and then they will know what tired is. These lads get paid enough to have everyone run errands for them I think its just lazy.
Pedestrian performance with no energy or urgency. The most un-Klopp-like two legs of European football we’ve ever seen. If that’s the best Klopp can come up with then the sooner he goes the better. It was utterly shameful. Losing with a spirited, passionate performance is the least we expect. Ali, Trent, Virg and Konate on go-slow looking like they didn’t fancy it and couldn’t be bothered is a disgrace.
I understand your frustration, but it feels a bit unfair to to single out the backline. Atalanta marked every player at all times, the midfield was overloaded, which forced Trent and Ali to ping the ball to the wingers and from there the movement in the final third was really lacking. Especially in the first half Mo and Cody dropped all the way to cdm to collect the ball several times to help out playing through the press, but then we had no one up front to make the attack dangerous and we kept giving the ball away until both tired out and stayed up front in the second half.
We might make the top 4!!
We couldn't get passing going. They killed us
The emotional toll of the Man U matches has taken the steam out of the squad. They wanted to send Klopp off with a bang, but the emotional realization that he's leaving appears to be too heavy to bear.
Did nunez even touch the ball ??
I think maybe they are putting the league first...probably more chance of winning the league than recovering from 3-1 down at half-time and going through.
Can’t see us winning another game now , this is the worst Liverpool team I’ve ever seen in front of goal
The team seems deflated. Reminds me of a marriage thats gone stale. The November announcement should have stayed in the boardroom until May.
Salah miss was horrific and it killed any belief throughout the team and probably most of the fans! There was no reason to start with Salah or Jones for that matter.
Plan A has been countered, no Plan B. Rumours now that it was Klopp and Linders who insisted on buying Nunez against others wishes who stank again last night. Somehow, we ended up buying Diaz, Nunez and Gakpo who all play in the same position when we clearly needed a striker, which Nunez isn't and will never be, despite the arrogance of someone who believes he can coach him into one. Someone compared this to the end of Wenger at Arsenal and they're right.
I'm just glad you guys were as confused as the rest of us!!! 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Love you klopp but gasperini outclassed you both games
Sir Alex won the league at a canter on his final year
And??
@@G-LFC-85 Klopp could only manage a flukey Carabao cup.
Levels apart. Always have been, always will be.
@@samwize28 that's funny because we're the most successful club in England, you are right we are levels apart,we are competing for the title you're competing to stay in the league you're that shite!
Confidence is gone in attack remember a couple of seasons ago we thrashed Crystal Palace then couldn’t score for love nor money it’s happening again for some reason
Klopp lost it and hit rock buttom, the guy is clueless, long ball FC, never even won the second ball!
We aren’t as good as everyone thought and it’s now coming home to roost. Quadruple kings just 3 weeks ago……and the amazing Man Utd started the rot, then world class Crystal Palace then added to the misery……and yesterday European kings Atalanta scuppered us in Europe. Remember when Dom Sob was the next Gerrard. Our fans are almost as bad as Arsenal fans for going OTT. Can’t wait for the League Cup parade……going to be amazing.
Get the kids back. Bobby Clark did not deserve to be dropped.
Atalanta went man to man...in the second. We had no answer. It was that simple
Go figure. .
I know you not gone like it and hope you Really Truly think about it Klopp is the problem Solly coz he said he’s leaving and the way he said it. After few games it Hit the players what it meant how they feel etc VVD made those remarks about players leaving etc. Klopp has Already left in his head simply put . YNWA
The effort was pathetic, not enough urgency in the 2nd half taking Trent off was pointless
We've lost the plot guys. It is heartbreaking to watch the nosedive!
That’s a game you miss firmino
Atalanta is more than a good team. In Italy is not a surprise this result, cause know the play of Atalanta.
DID THIS REALLY HAPPEN..LAST 2 MONTH...FUCK SAKE.
Chloe has too much faith in the likes of Jones, Szobo, and Gakpo. I don't see it.
Bet ya we drop as bad as Chelsea next season, we’ve been absolutely garbage of late
Where over achieved this season. Klopps over it and that’s why he’s leaving, now you can see why. He knew he should have been sacked last season, he wasn’t so he’s left this season. Klopps a smart person, we are kinda stuffed when he leaves
I know it’s ironic cause it’s also his fault we aren’t playing well because he’s over it 😅
Klopp 😂
Bench the luxury players.
If nothing else, they could do with a rest