The Perfect Personal Wind Turbine | KiteX Full Interview
Vložit
- čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
- Learn more about KiteX here!
kitex.tech/
Thanks for watching Disruptive Investing! We Interview up and coming companies and their CEO's, who are moving the needle in sustainable technology.
Join our Investor club: / nowyouknow
In the UK there are a lot of caravan parks which are on the coast. When you go there and you are in a car, you think this is lovely. You get out of the car and realise that there is a strong wind coming off the sea and it is pretty chilly. A wind turbine would be perfect for powering your caravan etc at these locations.
Fun fact, in Denmark all children have to learn to speak English at school from the age of 6 because Danish people are very smart and they know very few people can speak Danish, hence these guys can answer all the questions so easily.
Imagine that camp grund with 20 wind turbines humming along .
Now you have a noise problem
@@CHMichael - if it is your power source you will sleep comfortably happy that the batteries are being filled, lol...
(Strong wind blowing through trees and around chimneys and tv antennae makes whistling noises already, ppl are just too easily pi$$ed off by somthing new.)
Just had to click to confirm SBF wasn't running some kite company. Carry on.
:D
🤣
Thank you so much for making this, I am looking forward to your residential solution!
Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth....
Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste
🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊
AWESOME!!!! I loved the interview.
I would be interested in a larger home or small farm model if it would last a very long time. Interested?
Why attempt to tie to the grid ? Give me a unit wired to a heater that can go in my garage or basement. Totally independent. Knocks some of my heating bill out and no complex tie in to the grid or household power system.
Here in the Northeast of Brazil, we have the very large wind farms already, but this would be ideal for a beach house. Fairly constant wind.
With a 4 meter rotor diameter that would mean that the 200w production is ~5% efficient. Feel free to do your own math and check mine, but that seems a little low. Everything else about this approach seems great. I'd get in line to buy one if they have 48v battery changing support even at the low efficiency. I'd love to support this project growth.
$2300 oof 🤦
Princess doesn’t camp!😂 Great idea, though. 👍🏻❤️
What a down to earth and refreshing take on wind turbines and their uses! Fantastic conversation very interesting and informative ❤🙏
Also less stress on my battery during the winter months.
My roof might be high enough. TV antennae used to dot the landscape, so we got used to these large objects on the roof. Worth a thought.
Gotta ask: What sort of NOISE profile does this solution have? This would potentially be relevant question for home installation.
KiteX MUST also explore maritime and yacht applications 💡 .... May need higher quality elements due to salt water and salt air BUT this would be perfect market for RICH BOAT OWNERS ... Power boats and sailors 💪.... GOOD LUCK MEN ❗
Thank you, and noted :-)
What a wonderfully informative video. Thank you. Sheila Mink in New Mexico
Great to see more 'off grid" products which will liberate many in unaffordable accommodation!! Unfoldable Solar also a good option?? Refugees looks like a big emerging markets!!
(containerised self unfolding (unfurling) solar - is very doable, allowing for a rapid deployment - can even make it fold away in bad weather / night for protection)
A suggestion: install the system on top of an RV while it’s parking somewhere. Dismantle it only before driving away to a new place.
I think we'll get you guys back in the world of kite based power eventually
Amazing podcast, thank you so much!!
PLENTY of wind in tree-intensive areas !
I like that they designed this turbine with goal of mass production where is a good chance for affordability and competitive pricing
46mins! Alriiight let's go
Excellent interview. Thank you!
Hey everyone you guys are welcomed to join into the convo....after all the years of watching now you know you two have really did an outstanding job informing the world of the facts which helped a lot when debating all the positives of clean renewable energy....my issue is i am not retaining information like i once was. haha As someone looking to start a transitional business for clean renewable energy from your experience which was one of the best, most affective, and easily scalable ideas you've seen come across the channel. Looking for any additional insight from anyone.
Is there a kit where I can print the 3D parts myself and just buy the parts that remain to put it together.?
They wrote in their Kickstarter campaign in 2021:
"We are using an open source design
At KiteX, we're on a mission to make the world a greener place. Therefore, we will license our mechanical design under the creative commons license. This means people can share, copy and improve Wind Catchers design. We believe that having an open license, people can contribute towards making the world a greener place.
If you have the skills and knowledge to help expand our community and improve Wind Catcher you should do so! We believe that when people come together, we can create a product that's even greater - allowing you to harness clean energy for your adventures!"
I searched a lot but was not able to find anything.
I'm also interested to give the pitch mechanism an try with a little more stationary approch with aluminium foils and statorhight of 8 meters, what makes more sense in an garden enviroment next to a house.
Would be good if the guys remember their words to make "the world a greener pace"
On the subject of neighbors complaining about the structure which has wind generators, perhaps getting advice from a hired military vet on how to camouflage it would reduce the complaints. If they're unable to see the structure, they're less likely to complain about it. If there's a cliff nearby and it blends with the cliff or it blends with trees nearby it would be less likely to be spotted by busybodies. The knowhow once obtained could make it easier to sell it afterwards.
YES, perhaps component color options would help in that regard !?
BRILLIANT💪❤
Would like to test this product at night when the solar is depleted and get some power in at night. Obviously not a lot of power but powering my heat pump and to power my EV at night is very much a use case that people would use it for.
This is cool
For the low output problem, I tried plugging a solar cell parked inside a garage producing only half a volt from the neon lights. To increase the voltage, I tried using a joule thief which would cumulate the charge in a capacitor until it could discharge in the proper voltage to connect to the solar controller and charge a car battery but I couldn't get the joule thief I bought to work perhaps the part was deficient. it would have resulted in quick charging bursts if it had worked I don't know if it would have been enough to overcome the discharge rate of the battery though.
Good stuff fellas, this is the way to go.
Solar and wind combined... nice.
Is there a set up for boats? Maybe the blades are too big?
yep 3mm spectra lines are incredibly strong , many don't realise quite how strong.
- I have been actively around kites and model aircraft since the early 2000-s...
(Mech/Mcha background)...
I still like to work out ways to do things with the simplest control systems possible.. Self limiting - feathering / starting, using centripetal force is nice to do passively (a 2/3d swashplate - allowing an active override, and "parking" is relatively simple to do for low power systems).
If competing with solar, a functioning wind turbine system for under $500 (per half kW unit) is hard to deliver on.
Most choose to put a tent out of the wind when camping - this needs to be easily riggable ~50m (say) away from a campsite to be clear of trees etc...
NB, vertical turbines can reduce solidity by using larger radius - and can be spectra stayed simply too.... And variable blade pitch - cyclic control changes the dynamic totally compared with the "historical limitations, there is still "physics", of course.
I seem to have missed the price on it. I was listening for it but never heard it. Any idea what the ballpark is on the price for this model?
Hi Steve. Right now theres a limited sale going on so the full kit comes in at $1595
One possibility for discrete residential area renewable power would be to use thermal energy from a compost pile to produce energy. A small system like Lockheed Martin's OTEC could do this or Thermoelectric Pelletier generators. The hot water could be heated by the compost pile and the source of cold water could be the swimming pool or a pile of melting snow accumulated during the winter months stored in an insulated pool.
Dutch Antilles!
There are many islands with prevailing winds.
How will the unit fare over years of operation and in salt spray?
Quite interesting. Sadly I can't found table (or graph) with power output and wind speed, so I can't estimate daily production in my location (have collected 10 min data from the whole year).
For a permanent installation, I think it would be really interesting to build a sand battery, in order to offload excess energy, when batteries have been filled. Seems like having a company with a big auger driller, that can drill down into one's backyard, 10 or 20 feet, drop in a culvert type pipe section, fill it with sand and the electronics necessary to heat and then recapture the heat, Bob's your uncle. It could be filled over with grass, it would be pretty cheap to build and run and it would solve the waste heat issue of full batteries or over peak rpms.
Great stuff
The key for wind turbines is cost.
Hello I am about to buy the KITE X and I have one doubt and that is on days of rather high wind how does the blade and the structure that supports it behave?
Thanks Hello
I am interested in purchasing your wind turbine, but I would like clarification on how to connect it to a Deye inverter that requires a voltage between 180 and 850 V. Could you kindly give me some directions? Thank you, I look forward to hearing from you to proceed with the purchase.
I had resesrched a very thin light kite type cord that was highly sun resistant and rated well over 2000 lbs. It might work for you guys or it may be what you are using? Its been 10 years so I forgot the material.
We use Dyneema which is actually 15 times stronger than steel wire. Could be that?
@@KiteX_tech I researched it about 7-9 years ago. I purchased a yellow and black color but I forget the name of the material. Its about 1/16 inch and ultra resistant to UV. I'll send a message if I can find it again.
The biggest problem with wind turbines after having not enough or too much wind is that anything with moving parts requires much more maintenance. 3d printing sounds great, if you have one, but having to fix your 3d printed wind turbine every couple months is a big issue. I'd want to know how many years they have had their turbine running continuously 24/7? How often did it need maintenance? How many hours of their life did they have to spend maintaining their turbine? How much does it actually cost to maintain after initial setup?
Yes the big one i need in my powerplant 😎
I live on the gulf coast of Texas. The wind almost always blows. How can I test test my wind to determine if your system will produce worthwhile net gain?
You may have to go to their web page and ask them directly !? Good idea on the testing first 💪
This could work well for generating power at night for an RV. I may not make it through the night if I use too much power in my RV. I have solar panels. I could use a generator at night but they are so noisy. They should focus on the RV market. Night charging is a new feature. The wind turbine looks like it will break within one season.
Very solid points. We do actually also focus on the camping and off-grid community, because you are right; its hard to live on solar alone in many areas.
When this Wind Turbine is running at full speed, what happens if you stick your fingers in the path of the blades?
Do you have a video of that?
We do have several recording actually but not sure any are uploaded. It will give you a good whack, but the blades are so light you should be fine.
I just checked the specs, 3 m/sec to start is not very good for the majority of people who have less than 4 m/sec year round wind speeds. Much cheaper wind turbines have cut in speeds of less than 2 m/sec, which is much more useful for most people. Low wind windturbines with low cut in speeds are the most useful for most people.
It’s completely unrealistic ( with the current level of wind technology) to make a turbine that is somewhat economical and produces most of its power between 2 and 3 m/s.
@@AndreasOkholm Absolutely not. The only thing that is important is the year-round m/sec windspeed for where you are. And you base your perfect wind generater on that. What you just did was trash talking and that in itself is actually a definition of unrealisticness. People need to stop listening and mindlessly repeating what they think they have read and start going in depth for themselves and learning everything about a topic that they are interested in for themselves. And definately not taking another person's word who pretends to know something. :) Also you need to learn how to read, if the year round windspeed is 4 m/sec it also means it will have lower and higher speeds, but you will need to choose the right diameter of the copper coils and the number of windings to match the general 4 m/sec and the lowest cut in speed that you can get, which, at this time is i believe 1.2 m/sec or somewhere around that. I have not been interested in wind generators for over 20 years to go backwards with them, fyi, i am only interested in making them better for every situation and for almost everyone. ;) Also: And i apologize to other readers for repeating, but for the majority of people, which means the people who live "in-land", a low wind win generator with the fastest cut in speed (the wind speed at which a generator starts to make usable power) is the most important thing for them in particular. Also: The combination of wind and solar gives the most overall best performance, because, generally, when there is less sun there is more wind, generally speaking and measured overall. So it is still a good idea to be using smaller residential low wind windgenerators, also in non coastal areas, just as long as it's made for the situation. Also, the recoupent of the initial investment, which is actually very affordable, not to say cheap, for small wind turbines (let's call them micro wind generators actually, with low wind speed cut in configurations) is still pretty good, especially if you want to go for the most generation all in all that is possible, let's say. So: As much solar panels as you can make fit, home batteries that are calculated for exactly comfortable for your needs, and low ind micro wind generators combined. Of course one can do even more than that, but to keep things simple: That as a start. Other things would include housing that does not or barely does not need extra heating or cooling. Things like that.
If Brennen Island is any indication, the little islands in the Sacramento River delta (SF Bay Area) could almost support this company by itself. I once spent a miserable weekend there, with constant 30mph winds. There must be a lot of spots there.
also massive bird habitat and breeding ground
Theoretically if you're using 10 times less material the cost of production could be 10 times less as well but to get the cost down you'd have to go into very big volume like 7 million units
That's good for the producer as they've got your money, but this is not necessarily good for the consumer if it fails more often and needs maintaining, replacing or binning as is common when manufacturers skimp and try to save pennies.
@@ahaveland yeah the big wind turbines last 30 years without much maintenance when you factor in the lifetime the cost might not be competitive, too early to know that
@@13thbiosphere With billions of dollars and the future of humanity at stake, you can be sure that the people that design and build the big wind turbines have researched the entire knowledge space of science, physics, carbon intensity, economics, supply chain, implementation, infrastructure, transmission and ROI and know what works, and what doesn't already. There region that satisfies all those criteria is small.
The rest of us are just playing in the sand pit with toys that look pretty but add little to the solutions. I have little hope for new breakthroughs, as you can't extract out of the wind more energy than it has available.
@@ahaveland Certainly it must be possible to extract the energy that's available in the wind with more or less resources used to do so.
WHAT THE..! Specifications
Rated power: 200W @ 5.5 m/s wind speed for $1500. SAD..!
Ill buy it if they have a 6+kwh one
A 200 watt wind turbine? That's large enough to charge a cellphone and a few small items. Definitely not large enough to power a home. Not even close.
This would be the best channel in the world if you guys weren't Tesla fanboys. I'm just saying.
Looks great for off grid but now show me something for home power.
military mentioned XD
these dudes sound like arnold swatzheneigar
We take that as a huge compliment!
Maybe I missed it, but if you didn’t ask at what wind speed this thing makes 200 watts, this video is useless to anyone trying to make decisions about it. 200 watts from a 12' wind turbine is pretty low. Maybe the price could make it worth while but I didn’t hear that in the 'specs' either. I gave up watching after these were missing.
Numbers guys?
You could say that you could say...
Lots could be said for sure!
To me it feels 5 x too expensive.
Elon could use this on Mars.
Wouldn't the air be too thin?
It supported a helicopter, though small. A larger one is planned
"You can't have a chemical plant in your backyard. ... What are you going to be producing there?"
Meth! Than answer is meth. ;-)
Meh. I'm sure wind turbines already do this. It's just a different market segment.
expensive for 200W. Flexible monocrystaline solar panels are less than 1$/W...so that's 2kw of solar power for the same price...and no moving parts...this wind turbine is silly.
Solar is clearly the winner on cost. But many places have long winters with little sun. Also it could be a good alternative to batteries for clouded days or just for having power during the night.
They're at a very early stage, so we should expect it to be uncompetitive for all but niche applications among keen supporters. That's just how technology develops.
@@jonathanmelhuish4530 it's hardware and can't scale to any amount that would significantly bring the cost down...and i mean like 1/5 the cost...at least. there are lots of clever windmill designs..vawts and hawts...this design is simply too weak to matter.
Exactly, my computer is using 65 watts and the least power TV uses 100 watts. The water pump uses 100 watts when running and the furnace fan uses 100 watts and then needs propane. Just get a little generator and a LifPo4 battery. You could do better charging the battery at home and bringing it along. The reason they aren't used is the low power output. We have to think of using a Tesla motor in regen mode. To make power from wind or water takes a lot of wind to counter the resistance or a lot of water pressure as in gravity.
200 watts is nothing. All day is 4800 watts. You need a battery to buffer the power. Might as well just get a small generator and run it a couple hours to charge the battery. Sorry about the pollution. Just a refrigerator uses 100 watts while running and a larger starting power and runs half the day. That is 1000 watts alone. Computer uses 65 watts so there is 650 unless you keep it on all day like me. Water pumping and furnace fans etc. People want power and not to baby it.
Please stop using watts and watt-hours interchangeably. One is power, one is energy. Two different things. That said, your point is valid. But it's not meant to cover your whole electricity bill, it just needs to be cheaper to operate than paying for the amount of energy it will generate during its lifetime. So when it comes to home power it all boils down to maximizing [avg power]*[lifetime]/[setup cost + lifetime maintenance cost]. If you want more power and you have space, you can just get more of them if this ratio is good but it's small.
*Bad design!*
Scam crap