Boox Page - Unboxing and First Impressions of the 7" Android E-Ink Reader That Improves On Leaf 2
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00:00 Intro
02:21 Indy Says Hi :)
02:37 Unboxing
05:58 Device
11:35 Cover
14:15 First Impressions: First Power-Up
17:39 First Impressions: Reader Performance
23:34 First Impressions: Image Quality
25:32 First Impressions: Performance
29:25 First Impressions: Video Performance
31:29 Conclusion
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Boox Page is the latest iteration of their relatively new line of 7" eReader devices that were previously called Leaf. I liked the Leaf 2 device, I liked it a lot, but it was underpowered. Page seems to be addressing that issue head-on with the octa-core CPU and 3Gb of RAM, which is a serious upgrade over the Leaf 2. So Let's unbox it and see what the first impressions are like :)
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Great review as always Voja and so nice to be introduced to Indy! Thank you for that! Looking forward to your in depth and testing review. The Page looks very nice but would be difficult for me to justify buying having a Nova 3 and Kindle Oasis (2017 though) and Paperwhite (plus a Note Air 2 and Kindle Scribe).
The Page has a form factor that looks like the Oasis but the Oasis has a nicer aluminium body (with the gold option) and much better positioned tab buttons). Plus I actually like the Oasis’ extra thickness on the side you are likely to be holding it from plus prefer the Kindle device over the Android e-ink Kindle app.
BUT ….. it’s great with Boox being able to read via non-Kindle apps - Libby, Scribd and BorrowBox plus Google Books for example and the screen refresh options and programmable buttons options (ignoring the left right screen colour adjust issue you pointed out) are big pluses as is the expandable storage option and that gorgeous magnetic case is very nice looking too.
Price wise for the UK it’s not too bad either, especially considering you are getting a much more flexible-use device - £290 incl postage for the Page v £308 for the Kindle Oasis bundle (and the Oasis still comes with that micro USB B charging input!).
It’s widely reported that Amazon are going to announce a new Kindle device in September but no guarantees it’s actually a Kindle. Lots of Oasis lovers ate hoping for a long overdue updated Oasis, may be 8” and may be colour, or perhaps much more likely an 8” Kindle “Scribble”! I guess that would compete against the Nova Air 2 or C (if it marked Amazon’s first move into colour). However if it doesn’t have expandable memory - not a must have once you are at 32 if not (as with my Scribe) 64GB storage - and it won’t allow non-Kindle reading, it would, to my mind, not beat the comparable Boox devices.
It’ll be interesting to see what choices we have come September!
I received my Page yesterday. It is my first e-ink device, carefully chosen after learning about e-ink on and off for months (which your videos have been invaluable for).
I wanted a light versatile device on which I could install any app and that I can also use as an e-reader, and not a dog slow one.
I played with it a few hours already and here my initial impressions.
It is really fast, thanks to the 8 core CPU and additional 1GB RAM (compared to the Leaf). Everything is as fast as you'd expect on a modern device.
The SoC is the Qualcomm Snapdragon 665, a SoC released in 2019 in that was used (among other devices) for the Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 (2019) and the Sony Xperia 10 II (2020).
The 300 ppi screen is awesome and I say that as a general pixel density enthusiast for all displays.
The magnetic cover is as great as you said in the video.
I will use this device a lot for reading in a web browser and it is perfect for that using einkbro and its myriad of eink tweaks (also tested Firefox which works fine and is fast).
I really appreciate the page turn buttons (which are also volume buttons), although I would prefer them to require a bit less force to click.
I also like that the OS let you customize per app how these buttons operate: as Page up/down keys (if the app support that), as volume keys, or as simulating a scrolling action to simulate whole page scrolling in apps that do not support other means of displaying the next prev/page.
One of the thing that confused me initially was how to bring the regular Android UI for switching apps (multitasking). On initial setup, I also disabled the navigation bar and enabled gestural navigation. In that setup, there is no gesture configured to display the multitasking screen. For this you have to go into Settings > Gestures and change one of the bottom or side (left or right) swipe gesture to 'Multitasking switcher'. I would have expected this action to be assigned by default to a gesture (for example to one of the redundant 'back' gesture), especially since it is available if you enable the 'navigation bar' as a square icon button.
The backlight seems to be of excellent quality and it is possible to assign vertical gestures on the side of the screen for adjusting warm and cold lights.
I agree that the default 15 min idle timeout after which the device will shutdown is ridiculous, especially since it takes a while to boot and that itself must use quite a bit of battery.
Overall, loving this device and exactly what I wanted and it is so much easier on the eyes than the regular smartphone I was using before.
Thanks for the great report.
I want it too.
I'm looking to buy my 1st e-reader too, specifically to read on my favorite apps which are Google Books, Aldiko and Moonreader. What do you think about it now after 2 months of use? How is the battery life, how long would it last for a heavy reader, let's say 4-5 hours/day? Is the 7" size confortable for ebook reading, isn't it too small? Are there any new downsides you discovered? Thank you
Great review! How are you enjoying it currently? Still in love with it?
Time out to sleep or shutdown could be adjusted from power setting
Great review. How was the speed of browsing Internet? Is the speed of Internet browsing similar to this video when he scrolled down different CZcams videos? 29:09
I wasn't expecting to be impressed, but I totally am. The video playback quality is very watchable and I'm a big fan of physical buttons. Great impressions video!
I own this device video playback quality is good but the device starts to heat after few minutes so you cannot watch videos.
Thank you for your impressions of the Boox Page and the Boox Tab Mini C! I am debating between these 2 devices. I will not make much use of the note taking features on the Tab Mini C, but I will be using the device for reading magazines regularly (in addition to eBooks and PDFs.) Because of this, I am intrigued by the colour display of the Tab Mini C, but I am a little worried that the extra weight vs the Page would make it difficult for longer reading sessions. The cost savings of the Page is obviously nice too. What are your thoughts? Do you think the colour display is worth the weight trade-off?
I have been using Poke 5 for 3 weeks and have set the shutdown time to 12 hours of inactivity. This seems ideal for me as I mostly look at it in the morning and evening. And this way when I open the cover it is immediately available.
Very nice. I am considering buying between Page and Note A2 Plus.
I'm wondering if they will come out with a color Page in the future, and if it'll have the same improved refresh rate as the color Tab devices. I've always wanted a dedicated e-reader with color. I ended up getting the Tab Mini C, which is more expensive (understandably).
Ordered a refurbished BOOX Nova Air C -- wanted to get my daughter an e-reader that wasn't "locked" into the Kindle ecosystem, and could easily use Hoopla and Overdrive/Libby from the library, and hopefully even read webtoons and manga well. Fingers crossed...
Greetings, what do you advise me to take, the Boox page or the Meebook M7 Pro? Thank you very much for the answer and interest.
good job!!!thanks!!!
Hello, how much Time between thé unboxing and the review (i am asking for the palma)
would love a meebook m7 review and comparasion with the Page
Thanks for the review. One thing I wish you'd add in these reviews of Android devices: does it go from sleep mode to the last page you're reading (like in Kobo and Kindle devices), and how fast?
With my ancient Kobo, I find that it's one of the most important features I can't live without. Sometimes I just flip it open and read for 3 mins. whenever there's a break in whatever I'm doing.
I tried it. Had a book opened in the Neoreader app. I put it to sleep and wake it up. It took about 1 second (or even a bit less) to put me in the exact same page it was, so it is extremely fast
Can anyone tell me if this model is faster for browsing the web than Boox Nova Air2? Or are they the same?
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Hi, can you tell me something about light distribution on page. Leaf had quite disturbing visible shadow on edge and I am wondering if that problem was resolved.
My son had a white Leaf 2 and I love the quality of the screen. For you, which has a better screen quality, the white Leaf 2 or Boox Page? Thanks!
Unfortunately I have never had the4 chance to try the While Leaf 2, so I don't know.
Can anyone owning this tablet comment on the reading experience when using either one of the following Google apps: New York Times, The Economist, The Atlantic, Libby or Pressreader? I mean, can we press the page-down button to see the rest of the text within a selected article? Or do we need to scroll all the way to the end of the text? I am looking for a tablet on which I am not endlessly scrolling my way through the articles...
I would suggest that a spring loaded "rocker" type switch might offer better button tactile feel than two separate buttons. Slide finger up or down from the indented middle to create the page forward or back action. Never have to actually lift finger off the rocker; just slide back to middle of rocker to release up or down switch pressure.
I'm curious how the white leaf 2 and this compares though.. been frantically searching the web but no in-depth comparison so far
same, but this ones faster
I have some questions about it.
Does it also have the (same) accelerated GPU (APU) included as the Mini C or Ultra C? If not, how is the speed difference between the Page and the Cs? How is the battery time? How is the glare compared to other modern Onyx readers and tablets?
The Ultra C uses the Qualcomm Snapdragon 662 (from Wikipedia) while the Boox Page uses the Snapdragon 665 (reported by the cpu-z app on my Page). Both SoCs are nearly identical and have the same Adreno 610 GPU.
This is incomplete information, as the Tab Ultra C and Tab Mini C utilize in addition a completely separate GPU unit that is designed to improve ghosting and refresh speeds on those devices.
@@MyDeepGuide That is good to know. I suspected something like that.
Do you know if more information is known? Did somebody reverse engineer it, or is it completely proprietary at the moment?
AFAIK it is completely proprietary, as it is being marketed as designed and engineered by Boox for such purpose, specifically for the e-ink devices.
I don’t get why they didn’t put any space between the page turning buttons like every other ereader out there.
For Onyx to discontinue the Boox Leaf 2 within 9 months of release and without warning is a crappy thing to do. The Leaf 2 was my first Boox device and I bought it less than a month before the Boox Page came out. 😢 I now realise that Onyx have played this dirty trick before and although I am happy with both my Leaf 2 and the Note Air 2 Plus bought used soon after, I'm not sure that I trust Boox enough to buy from them again.
Yeah, welcome to the Boox experience. At least it was a device upgrade and not a sudden decision to stop supporting its firmware
But what's the problem with discontinuation ? Your device is yours, what does it matter if the company stops selling it? that's a normal thing and depending of the development, some devices are routinely updated to newer variants. Isn't this good instead of a set of devices stying the same for years with now improvements? Yes I understand it often feels bad that you just bought something "new" and only weeks later it's now the "old" device. But that store a psychology aspect than a real problem.
Can the buttons be on the left?
How is it in terms of response speed in comparison with tab ultra?
Slower, obviously.
QUIESTION: Trying to decide between Boox Page and Boox Poke 5. Any input on that? Thanks!
Poke 5 unboxing is scheduled for next week, but generally speaking, it's down to money vs size and performance, because Page is faster, and has the auto rotation and the buttons. But Poke 5 is perfectly ok, and cheaper. So it's down to individual needs and possibilities.
I think the main difference is the size. If you want the smallest device that fits in your pocket, then get the Poke. If it can be a little bigger then Page. I have a Poke 5 myself, and I wish it was as fast as Page, but I always carry it in my pocket and it can't be bigger.
@@marmezz ok thank you! I just received the Poke 5 and am getting used to it. The Kindle is so simple, this has a few more clicks to get to what you want. AND it is slower unless I want ghosting. But I think I have it where I want it now. And yes I do love the size!
I really think they should put more thoughts on performance/battery life tbh.. One of the merit of an e-ink reader was that the battery life lasts weeks of usage, but with the recent ones, even at twice the battery capacity, sometimes it doesn't even last 2 days, like my poke 3 for example.... I actually sold it and kept my super old c67ml carta 2+ cos I'd rather suffer the slow dual-core cpu than to having worrying about my device needing a charge..
My Poke 2 still holds charge for well over 100hr of reading time and easily 4 weeks of standby time, so you may want to try to disable your wifi, as it might be triggering the device into constant wifi scanning, which will drain the battery more quickly on any device.
I’d like to see how Libby performs in the full review please.
I don't use Libby, and I won't be registering another account just for such a purpose. You should be able to conclude how any app will perform after seeing a couple of standard apps shown on a device, as they will show a general performance and functionality of a device that in most cases remains consistent.
Do boox devices support Farsi? فارسی؟
I think you will find that you are easily able to set the left side to control light intensity as you wanted. You can even see the setting on the screen while you are saying it is not available.
18:02 Where? All I can see is Cold Light or Warm Light intensity controls, but separated? What I am talking about is Front Light Intensity+/- and the Front Light Color Balance +/- that are not present here, and as such it doesn't allow you to have the overall front light intensity level control on one slider while maintaining the desired color balance with the other side slider, which is the way Kindle, Kobo and other industry leading eReaders function.
If you are referring to the Dark Color Enhancement and the Light Color Filter, those have nothing to do with the Front Light, those are E-Ink center controls that allow you to fine tune the contrast.
So I'm confused where did you see the options I am talking about?
@@MyDeepGuide I am a little confused about the difference between Cold Light intensity and Front Light intensity. I find using Cold Light intensity to increase brightness quite efficient. I may have to readjust Warmth but it works. So I have Cold Light on the left and Warm Light on the right. This is my first Boox so the subtleties escape me. I defer to your expert judgement. I'm happy with it. It is far more flexible than my Kobo Elipsa but I do miss using a pen. I apologise if I misunderstood. Thanks for your ongoing efforts.
Nothing to apologize for :) Device's front light has 2 main controls, light color (temperature, cold is the blue light, warm is the orangish tint light) and the intensity. Normally, what you should have as controls is a blend between the cold and warm light, to balance them to your liking, and a separate intensity of the overall light. That way you can adjust the color balance the way you like it, and adjust the intensity of the light, while maintaining that color balance. This is what industry leading eReaders utilize, such as Kindle and Kobo, however, this is not easily, or in some cases at all, possible on majority of Boox devices ( some have received the updated front light control which works as I describe it, majority doesn't have it. Yet another messy inconsistency).
What Boox has is the lazy approach, and that is, separate intensity control for the cold (blue) light and separate intensity control of the warm (orange-ish) light. This is wrong and incomplete, because it doesn't allow the user to simply adjust the brightness of the light, without messing up the color balance they've setup. I hope that helps clear it up a bit :)
@@MyDeepGuide Thanks. I get that. I agree that would be preferable. I appreciate the clarification.
@@MyDeepGuide for devices that don't have that update, there exists the Gentle Glow 3rd party app that gives you brightness and warmth as separate controls
Pozdrav, da li si probao da instaliraš Eden books aplikaciju, ako jesi, da li radi lepo?
Pozdrav, nisam jer je ne koristim, tako da zaista ne znam kako radi.
Does it look the same as Onyx Boox Leaf 2? In particular, would a screen protector for Onyx Boox Leaf 2 fit Page? (I can't find any for Page on the local market)
Yes, it should fit it.
@@MyDeepGuide thanks!
Hello, I would have a similar question regarding the case/cover.
Would a case for Leaf 2 perfectly fit the Page? I don't find many case options for Page in the market as compared to Leaf 2.
@@girish2591 case probably not. Screen protector fits
@@myxail0:Thank you
Really like the page, but I also hope there is a version for writer only. The function shall include:
1. A foldable Keyboard Case with KickStand Cover( like Lenovo Duet 3) .
2. There is a dedicate key or you can set your key shortcut to launch your desire APP.
3. A Writer's Mode option in System Setting. In this mode , you got a minimal menu with only 12 Apps of your choice.
4. When connect to keyboard, the refresh rate automatically set to high for better typing experience.
Doesn't see to be a complex products and sure the niche is narrow. But There is no such e-reader/Typewriter products in the market right now. The distraction-free productivity device will be the future.
I will prefer this tech in poke 5 because that is a better size for me
Same as me.
Feels as if they took some stock Android system and did the bare minimum tweaking. The support is sparse and bland. How big a MicroSD card would this support? They could hire proper people who can write comprehensible manuals and guides....
Voya, did Boox ever resolve its lack of respect for the Linux software license? That's a deal-breaker for me. Unless I know they are respecting upstream open source software licenses, I will never buy a Boox device again. If Boox has become compliant with the GPL, this does look like an interesting, well executed device. Thanks for your great work.
There is so much conflicting information regarding that matter that I no longer follow it. Last I remember was that it turned out that people have been misinterpreting GPLv2 requirements, as in, that it is "good practice" to publicly release source code modifications, but it is not a requirement. What is a requirement is that if someone request this information from them, that they need to provide it.
The second aspect, which was also conflicting was wether or not Boox has modified the kernel at all in any way. If not, then they are not bound by anyone to reveal anything.
So honestly, I don't know, but what I do know, from the research that I did back last year is that it's not nearly as simple of a matter as some people are making it seem to be, and legal and licencing experts who understand these matters far better than you, me, and 99.9% of really loud people online should clarify this, so that we (non-experts) finally can know once and for all what is the reality of this matter is.
I own both the Leaf 2 and the Page. I really liked the Leaf 2 but disliked the Boox book management firmware which I dislike on all Boox devices. They need to talk to Kobo about book management and Kobo needs to talk to Boox about book syncing. I really like the Page and was not expecting the positive differences I found between the Leaf 2 and the Page. I definitely like the Page better and feel it is worth the money.
I did have a problem with getting the SD tray to pop out of the Page. I contacted Boox about the problem and all they did was send me videos of their emps getting the tray to pop out as if I was a moron. The videos included both the Leaf 2 and the Page. I don't think they realized that. I looked at the expressions of the emps in the videos and saw that they had a harder time getting the tray to pop out on the Page. After days of emails and having acute frustration with Boox, I took a full box of altoids and pounded the hell out of the tool while it was in the hole. Then the tray popped out just fine. I told Boox they needed to change their instructions or look into QA. So note that the Page may require more upper body or hand/wrist strength to install the SD card. Keep your altoids handy.
Thank you very much for the heads up about the SD Card tray. I will test that for the in-depth review.
Thank
Just tried my Page, SD tray pops out very easily using in-box pin, maybe it was an odd sample
Why so stingy with Ram. Really upsetting. No need to go from 4GB to 3GB just to 'stay' below the ultra C, which btw should have deserved 6GB.
More is always better but I'd say 3GB is adequate for most people and a huge step up from 2GB which is clearly not enough.
They don't customize the boards and SoC's. They just buy a bulk and then use it, and obviously, they are trying to maximize profit, otherwise, 4Gb would have given it a nice margin of comfort. That being said, 3Gb seems to be enough for most tasks that one would expect to use this device for.
why don't you teach how those settings got there? all you do is just touch here and there, it's really annoying
Have you tried reading the user manual? I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to find most on the information you are looking for in there.