How Long Could a Sword Duel Last?
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- čas přidán 8. 11. 2020
- Some of my current thoughts on this frequently asked question. Would a historical fight with longswords, messers, rapiers, or other swords be over in seconds or would it likely drag on for longer?
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Scalls answer: it depends
Matt's answer: CONTEXT
Shads answer: What about the dragons
Dragons??Huh?
@@joe125ful its a shadiversity channel reference
Machicolations!
@@JasonMBroyles i was thinkin about putting that
Metatron's answer: I SMOKE ARMOR!
Depend on the strength of the plot armor
underrated comment
Here before thousand likes
ah yes, the strongest weapon
@@taterds7858 greater than the power of a thousand pommels thrown at light speed
@@adarheim1013 What about the plot pommel? Like the one that David used in the bible.
Short answer: It depends
Long answer: It depends
Short Answer: It depends
Long answer: It really depends
THIS. IS. *NUANCE!* >epic kick of Viking legend
deep ends.
Real answer- It very much does depend on many things. If you are skillful enough to disarm your opponent, do you expect him-her to counter you with effective martial arts techniques? Hand-to-hand fighting techniques can turn an unarmed nobody into a fearless and dangerous force to be reckoned with. Be sure to always be prepared to go at it with fists and feet. In fact, I'd say that ALL weapons training should be grounded in unarmed combat skills!
Long answer:The Variables of each fighter’s sword,quality and skill shall be the decisive factor on deciding the victor
Until the hero's theme plays in the background, usually accompanied by flashback or monologue
... don't forget the almighty training montage !
Extra "You're fucked" points if the hero is being cheered on by his friends
Dont forget the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP/LOVE INTEREST
Or the hero remembered he/she is invincible anyway as having plot armor.
THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL!
Swordmaster: Yes, I will train you, I will teach you the warrior ways of the forefathers . But first, I name thee Noob.
Seems fair to me.
Reality: he who strikes first.
Fantasy: he who has The high ground, has the biggest pommel, and is the most chosen one.
he who has the better armor and is stronger, more skilled at taking his enemy to the ground.
He who learns from Indiana Jones if you understand me
@@Br4Ker He who rolls on the ground with his opponent, giggles, and puts a flower in his hair.
I do like that joke, but high ground vs low is also very important in a fight. It is a lot easier to cut/poke the head, when you are above them, but it is also easier for them to get your legs.
Tbh the low ground could be better just doge and stab up
3:42 "oh there's the neighbors again playing with their swords"
Look at those things bouncing
Glad he put a clip of the saber fencing about Lee Smith and Richard Marsden in. THOSE TWO ARE MASTERS.
I can't not love their sparrings. If I didn't know the context I'd assume they're all scripted and practiced to death lol
The more videos I see of hema training/sparring/tournaments the more amazed I am anyone ever walked away from a sword fight unscathed!
It is common in tournaments in HEMA and Kendo to be much more aggresive than you'd be in real life since you don't actually risk much.
Duels had rules like "first blood" for good reason.
@@thewayofthesword4136 Indeed, the Academy of Historical Fencing channel has videos where they simulate duels more closely, and there's a big difference in conduct. Much more cautious and probing.
@@InSanic13 It is the same when you watch the highest level in Kendo. 8th dan today have matches that have minutes without a single cut, just pressure and binding.
It is even more apparent when you look at 90 years ago's matches between 10th dan. They are extremely cautious, and do not attack without creating a decisive opportunity.
If you've seen many modern street fights, sometimes one guy gets lucky and ends it instantly, sometimes they beat eachother black and blue before there is a winner, sometimes they just grabble until everyone is exhausted and get broken up.....mutually agreeing to end it. I figure it was pretty much the same back then.
So _The Princess Bride_ got it right with The Man In Black and The Swordsman fighting for ages without hitting each other and got it right again with The Swordsman taking out those four guards in four seconds? As you wish.
I would like to say that I really like the direction that the channel is moving towards lately. I especially enjoy this type of video, where you talk about misconceptions about Sword fighting/historical weapons. Good stuff!
It's not really a new direction, just business as usual. :)
@@Skallagrim but you brought up this topic a bit more often recently what we like a lot!
@@Skallagrim It's soooo good to see you on trainig drill again. Add stairs running and push-ups and you will never run out of strenght and stamina. Im a former 400m competition runner - I know this shit ..a bit.
Also, I think you are in perfect age to fight contests. Will you?
Street violence does tell us several things in that matter:
1) many times the attacker picks a victim where he has a clear advantage and thus the fight ends very fast
2) in case two evenly matched opponents square off, both the skilled and the non-skilled tend to take some time. The prior because they are more careful, the latter because they fail to land decisive blows
3) The number of deaths is surprisingly low every time both sides are armed with melee weapons. Most of the time, both sides just hit air and don't dare to get in range... This goes on until one side chickens out, or makes a bad mistake...
I think for number 3, there are difference between peacetime duel and wartime duel. The latter are used to prevent bloodbath, with guaranteed death for losing side in duel.
@@fadhli179 3) refers mostly to ethnic clashes seen in Europe. Many of them are in between clans that are deeply involved in organized crime, however, compared to Italians and Russians, they aren't that organized and have no intention of remaining low profile. Heck, many of them think in all seriousness that spending time in prison makes a man!
Hands and arms measure is different from heads measure, that is why (I think) sometimes people think attacks are out of measure when in reality they are in measure.
Yes, exactly. People seem to often miss attempts to attack the arms that are evaded (and sometimes even ones that hit).
@@Skallagrim I agree. It depends on the parry:
if the opponent aims for my head and I Parry with a step back we are in Punta di spada (crossed at the point of the sword) and the opponent either tries to hit my hands and arms or attacks again at the head, with another step.
If I Parry without doing a step we are at Mezza spada (crossed at the middle of the sword), and the opponent can try to counter my parry with another blow to my head, but it is very dangerous: he must be sure not to lose the centerline catastrophically, because the time he has to go around my sword is longer than the time I have to thrust him (if the does not evade laterally),
If I (boldly) parry with a step forward we are now at the Stretto (close play).
So, to conclude, with the longsword the best target for the cuts are the arms, for the thrust is the body. Cuts to the head are very good, but they necessarily need more Tempo to be performed because the head is far away from the sword, if we are crossed (so if the first blow fails, as it is common). All of this is my opinion obviously.
@@Skallagrim My HEMA friend is 195cm tall but his arms are wider/longer (when wide open) to freaking 197cm. And his one-and-a-half sword is to me (187cm) like a great sword... aaand he is way younger and more "fit".
Personally I am delighted to hear "it depends." I've always loved watching movie/TV swordfights (and I love writing my own even more), so hearing that it doesn't always end in seconds and longer duels DO have a basis in fact has made my day. Thank you very much Skall.
I agree with you
@@SirPlusOfCamelot Thanks.
@@Wright805 No problem, it is a pleasure meeting someone who agrees with me!
the thing about fighting, any type of fighting, is it contains so many complex nuances concerning psychology and physiology that virtually everyone fights differently and every fight is inherently different. duels could be boring cagey affairs, duels could be brutal one sided murders, from the same duelist, a shallow cut may deter one person in the moment and make him psychologically falter while similar instance with a different individual makes him sharper and more relaxed and reactive in the moment.
@@JeffPenaify Good points.
"it depends," is also the answer to every economics and Age of Empires 2 question.
I think context is important in every answer.
Truth is absolute, but there are a lot of factors to account for.
"should I use a unit comp of flaming camels, demo ships, petards, and nothing else?"
It depe- *ABSOLUTELY NOT!*
@@petersmythe6462 it depends, do you play regicide?
The viper say the same everytime
Fun game, take a sip every time Skall says depends
... or "context" over at Scola Gladiatoria ^^
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As former hockey executive, Brian Burke would say: "I'll give a lawyers answer, 'that depends.'"
I feel like things like skill, armor, and shields are important factors, but like you mentioned, knowing things like master cuts is also a game changer if you know how to use them properly.
With shield and armor both stamina and strenght move to the front line fast.
It depends on whether one of them pull out a sack of pommels and just starts yeeting them onto their opponent.
Depends on how fast you can unscrew your pommel.
I like your comparisons with MMA. Short of some real sword fights that's about the best real world experience we can look to.
Especially in the context of two trained and skilled fighters. If you see video footage or brawls, they are completely different.
On a one on one dual, it seems like if an opponent can get inside the perimeter of sword reach and grab the opponent’s body and take him down then the sword becomes useless. A knife would be very effective.
MMA is not much of an analogue to unarmored swordfight. Hardly any MMA attacks will rapidly incapacitate a competent combatant, & there's low danger of death or serious injury. By contrast, even a weak thrust with a sharp blade might well fatally wound the strongest & toughest human who's ever lived. Because of these dynamics, MMA fights tend to more aggressive than sword duels. (However, cultural factors did make some historical duelists astonishingly reckless. We have accounts of men who ran each other through or cut each other at once.)
@@b.h.abbott-motley2427 Funny you mention that, I was just thinking about that too. I think the overall nature would be similar but obviously one or two sword connections is very different than one or two punch connections, so the duration of the fight would be shorter. You can punch somebody for 8 rounds sometimes but not slice them that long. I've heard bladed fights are some of the least pleasant because a lot of the time the slices don't incapacitate you right away and basically you both end up landing blows and then bleeding out hours later. Fun stuff.
@@alanashley6097 this isn't the case, people can reach their arms away from themselves and keep the tip pointed at you, if you try to push their arm away you're only putting it in the proper position for them to make you stab yourself on their sword when you walk forward.
Edit: In fact it happens in this video at 5:20
It depends on your motivation! Bury the light starts playing.
That only applies if you have the blood of Sparda running through your veins
Wow quarantine has really helped me pick up my quickness to Skall’s videos
Same
110% coincidence for me. Still nice though c:
Are you still freaking quarantining? -_-
Hey folks, take a look at this guy. He is still not infected! 😆
Are people really still quarantining? As a matter of fact, are people even made to do such a thing? My work schedule hasn't changed at all. Still working 50 hour work weeks. Been this way for two years now.
In my own personal sparring, the longest a match went without someone scoring a good hit was about 2 min 30s. I've had maybe a couple other exchanges that went 2ish minutes. The vast majority of exchanges were somewhere in the 5-20s range.
Most duels described that I have found last 2-4 minutes, to which the writer considered "intense", whatever that's to be interpreted as.
So its not 15 minutes of fighting while the "bad guy" gives a monologue about why he is right? 🫤
Woah last time I was this early people ended others rightly with rocks instead of pommels
I am so late that I am using the M60 MBT
A Duel can last only seconds
if you throw a pommel at your opponent
Based on accounts, many historical duels took quite a while. George Silver thought two masters should simply stalemate each other, fighting on indefinitely. On the other hand, plenty of battlefield accounts have brief exchanges that leave one or both parties dead or badly hurt. As you say, it depends on aggression/intensity. The cautious dueling approach might not work well in a military context. If it's critical for you & your comrades to take a position swiftly, you're going to be more aggressive than in a structured duel. Etc.
The biggest reason that fights could have dragged on is that people aren't as easy to kill as people think. Inflicting the kind of trauma necessary to immediately drop someone is very difficult and people who are motivated and is having an adrenaline rush doesn't even necessarily notice lighter injuries. Fights to the death would have been a pretty messy affair.
I really appreciate this upload. This is something I've been curious about for a while.
This is probably one of, if not the best, explanation video you've done. Perfectly illustrates the complexities that are inherent of hand to hand fighting.
Great content. Loved watching your sparring!
It would be nice to know the longest and shortest historical duel
The shortest is probably a few seconds... not possible to say what the record is.
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Shortest would have likely been a few seconds, from expert duelists challenging novices in "First blood" duels.
Longest I've come across is one in Italy between Benito Mussolini and Fransisco Circcotti in 1921 which lasted ~1 hour and 15 minutes.
@@tarille1043 Yes, that was sort of information I was hoping to hear! Thank you!
Shortest is when the other guy dies before the duel.
HEMA fights with money on the line, could be a good representation of how self preserving swordsmen might act.
Great idea.
God, imagine the toxicity. What, every double decreases the pot for the winner?
We have joked about setting it up that every track is recorded, and after fencing, you have to do a shot of the nastiest drink around. We are close enough to Chicago that we can get Malort, and while I don't fear 3 shots of it as much as being stabbed, it is close enough that my defense will get a lot tighter if that is the penalty for being hit.
By watching your videos I found my self being interested in sword fighting more then I initially expected. I realized how much there is to it. Thank you.
Instructor: Who all here is new to HEMA?
*Two people raise their hands*
Skall: Oh, have those two spar!
Instructor: Why? They need to learn first.
Skall: It's for a video. *Pulls out stopwatch*
Best video that I have seen so far on this subject.
Greetings from Argentina Skala! Keep it going! I love your videos!
Combat of the Thirty (March 26, 1351)
(English against French)
Fought 30 against 30 knights (men at arms) on foot.
The fight lasted several hours with a break.
The English lost 10 men to the French 4.
60 heavily armed professional warriors fight each other for hours and "only" 14 men died.
a really interesting topic, unfortunately nobody has made a video about it!
Very interesting. Will read abt it
Now that's a top notch youtuber - says something's a topic for a separate video and provides it! Truly unprecedented :v
With winter quickly approaching I think you should try shield sledding.
Glad for the clear explanation in the video. I don't remember which pair it was, but I remember reading about a duel that went on for a long time before the combatants realized that neither had the advantage or could win the duel without risking their own death, so they just gave up and called it a draw. And there would obviously be situations where one person just decided to give up before the duel could become lethal.
I remember asking this question on his temperamental morning livestream!
i’m so happy i got a whole video about the topic.
I know he’s not doing this bc of me, but still lol
Very good analysis!
'It depends' is always the best answer for any creative. It means as long as we remain internally consistent we're not bound by any hard-and-fast specifics. It gives us a lot of leeway to craft tension and reveal character.
some time ago I worked out the basics of any confrontation down to three factors: Exposure, Potential, and Sustainability.
Exposure represents whatever factor of the confrontation, which could or would come under contest at any given time: a certain point in an argument, a physical position in a battlefield, a part of a fighter's body in a duel, etc.
Potential represents the ability of any side of the confrontation to produce any significant change in that confrontation: is your weapon ready? is the opponent's weapon ready? is the enemy at shooting range? are *you* at shooting range of the opponent? can *you* strike where the enemy can not? are *you* in any advantageous position? etc.
Sustainability is the time any given factor of the confrontation could remain as is, before being affected by any countering factor: amount of ammo in one's gun, safety of supply lines, time before a given message is sent, physical exhaustion of the fighters, time before the hearing ends, etc.
in a 1v1 duel, with regulated equipment, on even terrain, on equal grounds 100%, Sustainability is the deciding factor.
..... so, the duel will last as much as the weakest contender can put up a fight, up to and including last-resort tactics by their part: if they employ a last-resort lunge at an exposed part of the opponent's body, and it connects, then too is the fight decided by the weakest opponent.
Quick and informative!
Agreed. In sparring I also like to strike slightly out of distance to test my opponent's reaction. Great Video!
this is helpful for my fantasy fiction and historical fiction stories.
Good answer. As you said, it depends on so many factors, skill, equipment, etc. Each fight would be a different combination of those things. As always, enjoying your channel.
Just to clarify for non-fencers watching, cutting short vs out measure are two different things, and require more explaining imo. All sword fights start when/where...always out of measure. What you do out of measure, or as you move into measure, like as Skall states here, is part of fighting provocations. Examples of provocations are attacks to miss, feints, guard changes, entering or changing of measure, hits to the hands (part of feints as well), earnst attacks, stingere etc. So as he said...it depends, and with more context, it depend on "how BOTH" fencers are approaching the fight.
thank you for the video!
So you are talking about cutting into Sprechfenster, awesome!
I increasingly like your videos, O Skallagrim. A swordfight lasts as only as long as it needs to. Incapacitate (Not kill) your opponent, then move on to the next, real battles were all about being adaptive and not getting stuck in the same drills and focusing on only one opponent. My best friend is a southpaw, and a lefty in a melee changes things in some ways
"How long can a sword fight last"
"Yes"
I‘m in a 2nd Lock down so I use the Time to learn something new and I just got into Hema/ Swort Fighting Books and train with a Broomstick 😂 so the Neighbors don’t get nervous... and because i don’t have the Money for a swort at the moment.
Yesterday the Neighbor Boy be like : hey Dad, the Crazy Neighbor with his Broomstick is back and he is beating the living shit out of a shirt on a line 😂
Thx Skallgrim for this wonderful Hema Training Experience 😂
nervous neighbours are good and obedient neighbours!
keep it up.
@@phileas007 later just need to lern how to ride a Horse and then I will conquer my Entire Neighbor 😂
Would be interesting to see how long some historical ones have lasted, and your thoughts on those.
They would agree but also could bring the acctual examples life/death fights in certain points.
I had the experience of a mismatch of skills at the Minnesota RenFest. They had a booth with the Sherriff offering to take on anyone in a duel, best two out of three; you got a kewpie dragon or something. We suited up, I signed waivers, and we tapped blades. I immediately went for a full-on lunge and touched him mid-chest. He was apparently had been dulled by a long series of lubber-cows and didn't react quickly enough. Needless to say, his eyes took on an angry glint, and I didn't come anywhere near him while he quickly disposed of me.
I remember having a sparring match with a friend of mind at school. We used old badminton rackets as swords (not the best analogue, I know), and we were going at each other for awhile. We were rather unskilled, admittedly, so we were quite cautious. At the time I was basically Roleplaying as a raid boss or something, and three hits anywhere meant I was down. The battle went on for hours, and I didn't even get a single hit on him lol. Most of the strikes were on my hands as opposed to my body, but it still counted.
I like how your neighbor doesn't even look up while you sword fight as she leaves her home.
She might have seen nothing because of the fence and camera position.
Love your videos
Apparently, in the middle ages CZcams videos were over almost instantly. It's a modern misrepresentation that they might go on as long as 6 minutes and 12 seconds.
I've heard legends within the SCA community of two drastically different fighters that clashed during tourneys: one was the ultimate tactician who always planned out his fights with extreme precision and decisiveness, and the other was the ultimate purely-instinctive warrior who fought with no mind and only highly-refined cued reactions to anything he saw coming his way. I wish I was there to watch their fights, but I'd assume that the former fighter's decisiveness would've made him extremely cautious and hesitant to make any moves until he saw the right moment of opportunity. And the latter fight's best strength being his reactivity would've also made him not proactively attack a lot.
TL;DR it was like seeing the unstoppable force meet the immovable object, as per the stories I've heard, and I can only guess that the fights would've been dragged out because of each fighter's respective methods.
What was the relative frequency of the sorts of fights you mentioned, namely amateur vs amateur, amateur vs master, and master vs master? That is, how often did people fight each other, and who were those fights usually between?
Great training
You Just had to end with that clear cut answer quip didn't you. 😄👌
Caught a 2 minute and 30 second Sidesword round in January of 2020 :P over at a tournament in Texas.
3:11 I keep hearing the sound of two cats growling at each other.
Another huge and significant factor is how most of the time people refer to specifically fencing as there alibi for fights lasting only seconds, however there are HUNDREDS of different sword fighting styles originating from hundreds of different areas of the world at different times using different kinds of swords. You can't fence with a claymore, it's too big and requires both hands to wield, a long sword is able to be weld with one hand but doesn't have the finesse of a rapier, point being most people on the internet are ignorant of various fighting styles and equate everything to fencing. A good example of how long it other fighting styles lasted is how english knights would often have trouble cutting through opponents armor with a longsword and would resort to grabbing it by the blade and hammering each other with the pommel, an act that would take quite a long time to do considering the armor they wore.
Would love for you to do something relating to how good a rapier of fencing foil is in a fight
A rapier is pretty good in a duel. A fencing foil is not, because they were never actual weapons at any point. They were created for fencing, which is the sportive side of sword fighting. They were meant to be small sword simulators. Small swords are pretty OK in a duel.
When he talks about throwing a cut towards the blade it's like when boxers don't immediately start swinging for the knockout but firs they use the jab to find distance and measure the opponent's reaction.
P.S love your videos man.
2:06 oh, so they're playing Footsies in fighting games then.
Sorry, that just instantly came to my mind :')
Real life is very neutral game heavy
Simply great video. Randomly pass by
Just randomly duel people to the death and win so you can have a reality based answer to this, Skall.
Ideally? Until one gets tired, but I've seen them over in a couple seconds, because one was tricky, and snuck something in unexpected. It's one of those questions. It depends, even with 2 duelists of high skill, but if they know each other, I've noticed that it can last a lot longer. (I mean they spar together a lot, not that they go out for beers 2, or 3 times a week.)
Also, what's the Quarter? That's a fairly common stipulation, how far will it take for the Challenger to be satisfied? The win-condition makes a big difference, because if it's to the Death, it can take a several minutes for someone to bleed out from a puncture wound. Even to the heart.
"Cuts out of measure...You're not supposed to cut at their sword..." This is more like a Feint. They're feeling each other out, maybe trying to draw an opening, before they commit to closing into you can cut Me distance (Or measure) This is actually a sign of a defensive fighter, they don't want to be TOO defensive, so they jab out of measure, trying to draw an attack. If both sides just defend, then the duel can last forever. Somebody has to attack for you to counter. In gaming terms, it's both sides playing Black on a chess, or Checkerboard. You'd think it would get confusing "Is that your king, or mine?" but the reality is that by the rules, black reacts to White/Red. If white/red isn't playing, and doesn't go, nobody gets a turn. They just sit there, staring at the board, for hours. Or, grab some white/red pieces, and Rochambeaux for who goes first.
Were there ever duelists that liked to stall the fight and wait for enemy to tire and lose concentration?
Hollywood: 30 minute fights
Real life: awkward swording
The thing is that I like the tactical aspect combined with having the size advantage.
I haven't joined HEMA yet (Interested, but not sure if there are any clubs nearby), so most likely I will be the type once I join to constantly charge into someones sword because I feel like once you close the distance you can focus on deflecting someone's sword, while also minimizing its lethality, and also move in quicker than enemies can back off.
Moving back first isn't that easy, it's easier to advance than to retreat.. Most likely skilled masters will be able to retreat and get a stab in from a blindspot, but it just feels like in low-mid level fights the most useful method is to advance, force people into a corner, and just grapple/stab. Most effective for taller/bigger people.
But that's me just fantasizing about stuff I haven't done.
Be aware, though, that as soon as you're behind the opponent's sword tip, both of you are in the danger zone. A sword cuts along its whole length, which makes it really dangerous to be next to its blade. Compare that to polearm fencing: As soon as you're past opponent's blade, you're quite safe as the lethal part of his weapon is out of the way.
Duelling with polearms may be interesting. Since I am interested in learning how to use Naginatas properly with my martial arts discipline. Especially if you set it up to have a few weapons in the surroundings like swords, shields, daggers, axes and so on as you would see in a real battlefield. In which case if you are dissarmed of your main weapon and have to use your side arm with both being in full plate armour but, with bluntnened weapons of course. Then when you use your backup you have to use what's closest to you in order to defend yourself. You could even make it more interesting to have a different friend play dead and if you get near he could attept to distract you while your opponent tries to skewer you while the opposite could happen as well. Just an idea.
Definitely agree with the "it depends" stance and would add matchups to the variables. Being tall, I generally outreach my opponents by a noticeable amount, which makes out of measure movements less threatening towards me as they'd have to commit to advancing much further to reach me, especially if I'm in stances that keeps my arms safe.
Outcomes would still vary dependent on the skill and mindsets, of course, but it could be an unfamiliar scenario for some, which could potentially leads to atypical mistakes being made by the less experienced.
I lost it at 'feeling each other out' 😆
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Me: It depends...
I watched one that lasted a little over 1 hr and 40 min. Sword and shield and in plate, though. They had a rehydration pause in the middle. Both very highly skilled.
Pls do more videos about staffs maybe different types.
YES
Have not watched for a while. Dropping by to tell you that while I was on my phone, a "new" mobile game was using one of your videos for their ads.
Those beer bellies are like a natural gladiatorial armor :)
Speaking of master with the sword ... Skall, I got a video idea for you: Who is the greatest living sword fighter? Yes, yes, I realize it's all subjective and "greatest" could mean a number of different things, but I could see this potentially being a fun video.
Reminds me iirc of that story of dismounted English and French knights fighting until both sides were exhausted with few casualties
thumbs up lol clear cut answer, best line in the video XD
I am not a fencer (atleast not yet) but I also depends on the intention of both fighters. If they are looking to savour the fight then they might do I suppose. And perhaps the opposite if they want to end it as quickly as possible.
somewhat illuminating indeed, sir.
Great explanation of why it depends on the combatants.
It also depends on how long the two fighters talk to each other while their rapiers are bound. 😉
Cardio dude,cardio.
I like the term "cut out of measure."
Hey Skall, would you be willing to react to/rate the historical accuracies of Vinland Saga? I'd really love to hear your thoughts on it.
it is similar to boxing in a way here.
Those light jabs that are not even aimed much really, they are just tasting each other, looking for habits, patterns, at the same time they are eyeing any opening that might present itself thus end the fight in a flash of skill.
Hey I dont know if you still do movie fight reviews but if you do you should check out Macbeth final duel from 1977 I think
Another Factor influencing the duration of a duel are the agreed upon rules, for example you might be limited in which parts of the body you are allowed to target which also influences the duration, since scoring hits can be more difficult.
When I took fencing in college, we were constantly admonished for dragging out the fight. I wanted to make the foil to make the cool clack-clack sound, but the instructor just bellowed "FINISH HIM!"
As a hand to hand martial artist (Muay Thai, JKD and a few others) I've had non-sport street fights having to defend myself from an aggression from noobs and it has ended pretty quickly -and badly for them-. However, when competing against highly trained and skilled fighters (competing, not sparring) I've had some really long fights in which no one gets ko'd. I have some experience with weapons (Kendo, Eskrima) and even though I've never had to fight with them neither competing nor in self defense, I believe it would be a very similar result.