6K Pro Review: I like it but there are some issues here
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Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera 6K Pro (Canon EF)
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Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera Pro EVF for 6K Pro
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Blackmagic Design Pocket Cinema Camera Battery Grip for 6K Pro
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Watson NP-F550
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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens
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InCamera is AMAZING!!!!!!
@@EpicLightMedia too kind 😘
Good news, I think I've read somewhere that blackmagic is going to add the ability to to calibrate the monitors white point in a future update in camera (my guess the future gen 5 update) so the wait shouldn't be toto long at least
my friends were happy to be in the video and thank you for letting me film a few things
You FOUND the video!!!!!!! Glad to see you here!!!!
A couple of YOUR shots were in the video!! They were good
@@EpicLightMedia yea, i got a camera on my birthday and im gonna start filming things. Pleasure to be able to film a couple things in this video. I also love your videos.
As hard as I concentrate I just can‘t tell if he is joking all the time or he means it serious😂
agreed
haha so true
😂😂😂😂😂
OMG, the last scene is just beautiful. the color, the lighting...just wow!
I want this camera so bad but Blackmagic makes me nervous. I wish they would charge slightly more if it allowed them to improve their quality control. Seems like the people that purchase their cameras are basically acting like beta testers.
You don't have to buy it now (or maybe you do). The problems people are having now are exactly the reason why I'm never an early adopter. I also don't think charging more would translate into better QC out the gate.
@@reanetsemoleleki8219 I'm with you on not being an early adopter! Preordering seems like idiocy to me. I'm just saying a would gladly pay $3000 or maybe $3500 if I knew for a fact it would work exactly as advertised out of the box. It seems ridiculous to send broken products to paying customers, even if it's just firmware updates that are needed. It looks like a wonderful camera though! I may even wind up getting one against my better judgement lol.
Yes, I agree, I'd wait until they release a reliable model before buying. Still best to fork out the cash and get a good Sony.
@@startonix3613 deff not best lol
I completely agree. As a 4K user, I couldn’t be more excited to get rid of this camera because the batteries just don’t last more than 15 minutes. I’ve tried new batteries, Canon, third-party, but the camera just cannot be trusted. It’s such a shame it gives you such a professional image, but I would never bring this on a professional set because I cannot rely on it.
I was hoping that waiting for the 6K pro would solve this lack of quality control with 3rd gen hardware essentially , but receiving faulty battery grips and blue tinted screens just goes to show there are always going to be new persistent quality issues
Yes plz i have been waiting for this video. BTW 0:20 was so smooth the best storyblocks add on yt ever!
I brought a girl home from a date last night and she immediately asked:
"Why are there white bed sheets all over your ceilings and next to the walls?"
Me: "It's for the soft lighting."
Girl: "Oh..."
did she say " What are we calling this movie"
Could you please do a tutorial, how you record and process your audio!?
Listening to your videos is just a bliss.
THE EVF is a full on OLED screen while the back screen being 2200 NITS its a basic LCD. While the former 4k and 6k both had OLED back screens which is why they are better but they dont get as bright though! These two key factors to keep in mind when differentiation the two. Great Review!
Blue Screen tint was a calibration issue on a batch. Future firmware will be correcting and they are looking at giving the option for monitor calibration in the menu option as there seems to be variations from camera to camera as to how bad it is with some being worse than others.
This really sealed the deal for me. C70 it is!
Did anyone read this title like Jim Carey in Dumb and Dumber 🙋🏻♂️
Thanks for the real world review. It's great to see how the camera works in the feild. @12:10 You mention you can't use the screen for proper exposure. That is true of any monitor or external screen that you can control the brightness. You would need a properly calibrated monitor to check exposure. The histogram and or false colors are your best bet for proper exposure.
Just got mine in and have all the same issues with the screen. Reached out to BM and they said a firmware update is on the way so hopefully that comes soon. But even still I'm really liking this camera.
With the update having come out, how are you feeling it now?
I like your lighting
You’re too kind!!!!
Love this channel, great material and the host actually REPLIES your questions for real, not a stuck up star.
I haven't tried one yet, but it seems to me that if the EVF plugs in at the top there, that sooner or later there will be a cable for it and some kind of mounting hardware to put it where it might be more comfortable. Especially the camera is on a tripod in a strange position - being able to just have the EVF in your hand and look at your shot, would be fabulous.
The screen is bad on a level that is mind-blowing to me (at least on the ones that are bad; it seems like a couple people got OK screens). One of the worst screens I've used... ever? In any product? I'm hoping they come out with firmware before my return period is up, otherwise I'm sending it back.
@Cinema Therapy brought me here from an old post :) I do photography, so I find your.m channel super interesting! Thank you!
By the time I'll have money for this camera there will probably be Blackmagic 20k out in the market. Still fun to watch this though!
And when there is Blackmagic 20k, please make a review as well!!
Glad you addressed the ND and rear screen color problems. I am still very interested in this camera. Thanks for the review!
This channel is amazing!! I get so EXCITED when they post a new video!! 😆 the 6k pro is going to be AMAZING! cant wait to get my hands on it!
You can take your quality content and shove it up your playlist 👀
+1 on using the original Cinema 4K! Appreciate you highlighting the shenanigans, but still letting us know that you enjoyed the camera. 🙌🏾
Seriously, I need two vids a week from you guys, lets go!!
Your videos are soooo good. Changed to black magic from Panasonic from watching your stuff. Awesomeness
the battery grip for 145 its a steal... the camera as a whole is a masterpiece. the options are unlimited.. the drawbacks are just a few... at the price this camera sits, the lack of autofocus and blue-ish tint on display are unnoticeable and easy to pass by... this is the best money can buy for this price range up to 10k.
I wanted to get one, but I opted for the regular Pocket 6K for gimbal, car rig, and quick HH use. I don't know, the new offerings didn't push it over the top as a buy. Regardless, it's a great camera especially for folks that said no when there wasn't a flip screen and wanted better battery life.
I have no problem waiting to buy the Pocket 6K Pro. I would definitely buy one. I really want one with a PL Mount however. I've completely switched to PL glass, and am so much happier. It's the best mount. Nonetheless, I still am fine with the EF lenses I have. I would use the Pocket 6K Pro with the same EF glass I use on my Pocket 6K. So don't get me wrong there.
But waiting for the issues to be solved with later shipping models is always fine by me. Certainly for run and gun shooting the P6KPro is the right camera with the battery grip and EVF. That's what I've wanted for the Pockets for a long time. Now, if only they could go ahead an implement CFExpress in future cameras since I love that new recording media.
in the UK you can return your 6k pro free of charge to retailer if you are not happy and unfortunately experience the blue back screen issue (CVP)
The new lighting setup is insanely precise! GJ
Aaannd, now that I have a Pocket 6k Pro, I also like it. I like it a lot! Mine doesn't seem to have the blue tint issue on the LCD. I shot with it bare bones yesterday at 1080p and got some great stuff even out in direct, cloudless sun. Can't wait to really test everything this week to see how it holds up!
8:46 buff dudes went into cinematography! ahahah
His vocabulary is absolutely extraordinary
Guys I love you but I didn’t believe a word of this. Please stay authentic guys. Your audience appreciates that about you
Bought the 6K Pro three weeks ago. Don't seem to be experiencing the tint on the screen; would love to hear if yours ever got resolved. I was blown away by how bright it gets. I bought the EVF, too, and while I actually think it edges out the screen slightly in terms of image quality, color depth, contrast, etc., I haven't used it since my initial out-of-the-box honeymoon with the camera. I agree with Alan that the placement of the EVF is goofy and impractical for most uses. At the end of the day, this is going to serve as a locked-down B-cam 50%+ of the time anyway.
Wake me up when they fix the screen!
Please make a in depth of all the lenses you use with the blackmagic cameras, and why you end up using some over others.
We need the best combos for these cameras!
Just got mine in today. I am so excited for it to pair with my G2!
Love your content Tyler from Africa waiting for my G2 this weekend
Does yours have this blue greenish tint aswell on the display? Mine arrived today as well and sadly it does. BM really is letting it slip recently. Ordered the Video Assist twice and it also had a blueish display. Much worser than on my 6k pro though.
@@YannickGalaske to be honest I’ve been buried in edits that I haven’t even had the chance to open the box haha
i believe Blackmagic stated that the screen issue was an incorrectly set white point in the factory and will be fixed with an update. Hopefully this works.
That looks like Freestone Park, maybe I'll run into you guys filming one day! Keep up the good work, loving your stuff!
I already ordered one. Guess I'll watch the video now to help confirm any preconceived biases I may or may not have towards my poor financial decisions.
ive been waiting for this review the most.
Finally black magic 6kpro review
There is always wierd issues with BM cams.
Some u might think they did it on purpose lol
Mere problems make huge impact
The only issue I have had, is the issue with the ribbon connector on the back of the screen is faulty. When the screen is at certain angles, even when my screen brightness is set to 50%, the screen will flash when I turn it one and then will stay at 100%.
Luckily BM is fixing the issue or replace the camera for free if they can't fix it.
The day RunwayML (or some other genius CST nerd) figures out the way to emulate BMPCC 6k colors its over . What we really need is the lovechild of a Sony ZV-E1 , BMPCC 6K, and a Lumix S5 .
someday blackmagic will try an ergonomic camera, for now they'll always have the best menu setup and the greatest data specs hands down
Great video! Honestly though, ending up at an f4 with an ND6 means that ur actually not able to film open in bright sunlight, or am i wrong? I've got the Aurora Aperture variable NDs and if i buy a 6k, I'd prefer the normal 6k I guess, ND's not dark enough for the 6k pro and the screen is apparently not alright, also u mentioned that some people complain about the nd's not being neutral.
Great review. I just got my pocket 6k pro and I’m excited to test it out with my c70
Sounds like the 6K Pro is a solid camera. Hope your battery gets fixed!
6:19 Well i see the blue tint there (look at the shadows and mindtones) Idk if it is the colorgrade or not but ye
maybe one day we'll see you on Netflix or a Hollywood movie because of your humor. really Epically Humor!! :)
Why don't you use false color to get better exposure rather than relying on the monitor? i don't think anyone should use camera monitor to determine accurate exposure setting
I believe most of the blue tint issues is just people reaction to the back screen color issue. If only using external monitors it should be fine
What camera did you use to film yourself on the dark blue background? 0:01 for example. There is alot of banding and i would like to know if that is the bmpcc 6k that produces that. Great video :)
That’s the CZcams conversion that causes the banding
Been waiting for this!
sensor stabilization would be such a great thing to have with this camera
Nice one as usual! Quick question: how are you feeling about the 12K one... ? I believe you still have it right? would you shoot a nature docu with it...? thoughts? thanks mate!!!
We kept it cause we lots of live streaming and we ended up needing all the cameras we own so we didn’t return it. Also we are waiting for the rawlite olpf filter for it. It’s a good camera. The only issue is the moire. For nature it would be perfect cause there isn’t much moire in nature haha
@@EpicLightMedia ha good point! except of course if one shoots water scenes or trees....(grass, etc...). To be honest I had my eyes on the 12K... but after seeing your review, (reviews I trust! ;) ... I decided to wait... now I am thinking RED Gemini or Komodo... but of course price is totally different... (also the post...). Now the 6K pro Black Magic could be like a 'Komodo" option...
Whats the point of just showing slow mo image? Is it to hide the fact that this camera have a nonexistent image stabelization, not mentioning the nightmare of TRYING to mount this monster on a gimbal?
Very dumb comment, this review is shot @24fps on a BMPCC6k pro..
I heard you also can hotswap the batteries in the grip without the camera turning of, thus shooting until the media fills up.
Yes!!! It’s true!!
Man, I love your content guys! Been subbed for a while now (sorry!) and love everything you come out with °¬)
I really wish they would just make a mini ursa mini with v-mount on the back - as someone who ACs quite a bit I'm not a fan of this form factor
Very good idea!! I would like that too
Great video as always!
Would you mountain sharing which projection snoot did you use in particular for that awesome thumbnail? :)
It’s the prolycht light
Hey Bro, the screen protector I think is still on the monitor screen that’s why your getting the green tint.
It`s definately a white balance shift problem with the monitor and they will fix it with a special update.
Cinema Therapy is a great channel!
I checked the color cast on my nd's and the shifts are better than my non IR filters. I guess we couldnt expect NISI quality from ikea of cinema cameras.
Beautiful images/colour at the skate park - I don't see any blue ND tint.
Holy crap. Is that park in Gilbert, AZ? I grew up there. Seeing this footage brought back SO many memories.
1:42 That’s strange. My original 6K with the battery grip lasts me around 2 hours. And it makes sense since it holds 2 Sony batteries. I have tested this througly, perhaps it has to do with the brand of batteries you’re using. 53 minutes seems pretty inaccurate.
I bought my first Blackmagic (6k pro) and I'm happy with it. I only have the screen tint issue so I'm waiting for a firmware update! Any news about cages for 6k pro?
People are not saying the ND`s are giving the tint...they say the display is giving the footage the tint but just on the display like you also noticed...
Shame about that color. I was lucky for mine. No issues at all. I think it may have killed my old USB type c cord that runs to the SSD. But I had that for years. So it is what it is.
Cant you load a lut to fix the blue tinge on the back screen
Just a simple lut that only changes the wb to neutralize defect
Nice content guys. When doing the battery test, were u recording onto Cfast card? was the screen at 100%? what compression setting did you choose?
Yeah, thought to ask the same. Im going to opt for the Samsung T5 SSDs - waaaaay more affordable
What kind of media do you use for your Pocket Series cameras? I use SSDs on a rig for my 4K but I specifically got the 6K to free myself from a rig (just another option). Do you use internal media? If so what do you use/recommend? Thanks for the videos and the sharing of knowledge. I am a huge fan of your work.
I don’t have a specific brand I recommend. We use Komputer Bay c-fast cards!
I've heard normal colors burn in after a bit of use. I am skeptical about this but let us know if this is the case.
Still waiting for a Pocket 4K Pro super 35 sensor. That would be the best camera of the year
I do notice the lens flare is different for the different levels of ND...
Waiting for 8k version
lmfao
Watching you from Canada! Please keep up your amazing content and your sense of humour, I digg it! Of course, as soon I as finished the video I went to @InCamera and sub, because their content happens to truly be amazing as well! As for 6k pro, Im getting one for sure! There are no perfect cameras, we've been using external monitors for so long now, we're not about to let a blueish ref monitor change that 😂😂 !
But real talk, did you keep the 12K?
its in the end of the vid
@@madefortravelling Ahh yes, still looks like the 1 in 12K is blacked out too. Welp I guess that means they are all in on Blackmagic Cameras!
Really think they hate black magic cinema cameras. The last shot proves it
My 'normal' 6k is feeling like the ignored brother
I think some people have gotten too nitpicky and are trying to find issues. There's no noticeable blue shift with these ND filters in any footage I've seen. I don't think anyone that wasn't anal to the extreme would see any. If there is any, it's so minor I'm not sure that color correction would even be needed to fix it.
4:25 I see what you did there 😂
Love your channel and a perfect person to ask. I posted this on FB and no one responded. Could you possibly shed some light?
I just received the Pocket 6K Pro and putting it side by side to my Pocket 4K, I noticed 2 things that seemed peculiar.
1) I know they have different LCDs, but the 6k Pro has a green tint. I even noticed it before I brought the 4K out.
2) The 6k Pro has a very low noise when it's turned on.
Do you have a similar experience?
My question is that what happens to the cameras you guys returned to the manufacturer? Do they just wipe them down and repack them and sell them to other suckers as new?
I love this camera if. If I was just getting into black magic I would definitely get it. I have a pocket 4K and that works great for me especially because it will get gen 5 colors. I have fixed the battery issue with a vmount. Because I film commercials and films I often have my camera rigged up so I wouldn’t be able to use the EVF. I love the built in NDs, but I don’t want to pay $2500 for just nd’s. I am going to wait another year or so to see what they put out. And I will probably end up going ursa just for the sdi
I'm sorry but I have a confession to make. All this while I've been subscribed I know you strictly told me not to subscribe and I'm sorry I've been lying to you but I have no regrets and I'll do it again if I had a do over. Epic Light Media keeps bringing the best CZcams content and other awesome channels man I couldn't resist. I'm also gonna snitch, you didn't hear this from me but there's about a hundred and thirty thousand of us who subscribed. You must feel betrayed.
So can you trust the false color exposure tool within the camera via the screen?
Excellent review! +1
Just one thing: 1:46 the length of those graphs seems off: the lengt of the bars does not correspond to the numbers below
Examint the last two bars for example, 3 hours versus just over 1 hour should have an almost 3 times longer bar...
Also the 1h16m versus 0h53m bars seem to show little difference in height.
Hi, great video, thanks for the information. Do you know if this BMPCC 6K is compatible with Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 IF EX DG HSM lens for Canon?
Thanks!
Mine arrives tomorrow fingers crossed it is a batch issue with the monitors and I get a different batch.... Son of a Batch! It's probably the same batch... siiggghhh... blackmagic....
Yeah hopefully your screen is ok
how bad is the tint in your unit?
did the tally lights cover fall off?
did you have sensor with dust under the ir filter?
how is the IR polution in the Nds in yours?
the faulty units are piling up on the stores and black magic is beeing less than transperent
Nd color shifts and blue tint on lcd screen
Great review 👍
I loved the music choices on this one guys! Can you share the tracklist please?
It’s all from artlist.io. I need to start listing the tracks we use but I’m lazy
Obsolete and not ver adaptable mount due to distance to the sensor. The only thing that bugs me.