It's Hard To Grasp That I Am Not The Doer--April 18 2021

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Komentáře • 11

  • @bluffdweller1
    @bluffdweller1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    In times of forgetfulness, I repeat this quote from Shakespeare to myself: “Nothing is good nor bad, but thinking makes it so.”
    And if I find that’s not enough to shake me free, I rely on videos and writings by Robert, Joan Tollifson, and Darryl Bailey.

  • @maxreinsch
    @maxreinsch Před 5 dny

    I had no real choice in writing this. It happened because it did.
    Every thought, imagining, decision and action - is because of everything.

  • @markharris4659
    @markharris4659 Před 2 lety

    Hi Robert. Would recommend some reading please?

    • @RobertSaltzman
      @RobertSaltzman  Před 2 lety +1

      On what subject, Mark?

    • @markharris4659
      @markharris4659 Před 2 lety +1

      @@RobertSaltzman you are the first person I have read who expresses their experience of being awake in the way you do. With out faith and the need to believe anything. That’s new to me. Tony Parsons comes close but with an annoying jargon and something I would call smugness. I’m interested in anybody who writes about this without the need for ‘magical thinking’.

    • @RobertSaltzman
      @RobertSaltzman  Před 2 lety +4

      @@markharris4659
      Hi, Mark.
      Yes, Parsons and his clones come off as terribly smug. I did an interview with Jim Newman and he had that same annoying certainty about having the final answer to the question of what reality is and isn’t.
      czcams.com/video/kNQ0xBiDDko/video.html
      Still, both of them are better than the run-of-the-mill nonduality mavens who insist without the slightest doubt that consciousness is a fundamental property of the universe that must have preceded even the emergence of life. As an old uncle of mine used to say when confronted with a wiseacre, “Really? And you know that how, Charlie?” For me, the essence of awakeness begins with the understanding that no human being has access to final answers about anything metaphysical. We find ourselves here without knowing what anything “really” is, how it got here, where it’s headed, what, if anything, it means, etcetera. If one can admit that much, which is already a lot, it’s only a short step to seeing that what I call “me” cannot choose or decide to do anything. That “myself”-the chooser and decider-is, I say, a fictional entity, a ghost in the machine that we were all born ready to inhabit. Then, indoctrinated, before the age of reason, to be nothing but persons, entirely accountable to whatever structures, manners, morals, and laws the surrounding culture supports, no wonder we yearn for freedom. Yes, few people talk the way I do. Most of us feel insecure enough without also admitting that “myself” is only a kind of story I tell myself. It’s not as hard as some people seem to fear. Yes, freefall can be a shock at first, but the psyche can accommodate it. You’re still here, just not in the same old way. Certainty about nothing may taste of that freedom for which we yearn.The professional spiritual teachers don’t like that idea because it leaves them with nothing to sell. After all, people pay to be entertained, reassured, and given paths to follow, not to be thrown into metaphysical doubt. When asked a question, those know-it-alls will hardly ever say, “I don’t know.” But they don’t know.Oh, yes. The book recommendation. I suggest Douglas Hofstedter's I Am A Strange Loop. It's a book that requires some effort but could be well worth it. Enjoy!

    • @markharris4659
      @markharris4659 Před 2 lety +2

      @@RobertSaltzman Thank you for the group introduction, I am enjoying being in the group. I look forward to speaking with you soon. warmly Mark

    • @RobertSaltzman
      @RobertSaltzman  Před 2 lety

      You are most welcome, Mark. It's a good group of bright people
      .