Zionists used to be more honest
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2023
- Amidst the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza & Palestine in general, it is important to know about the history of Zionism & Israel in order to fully comprehend the horrible events unfolding before the world's eyes, while the imperialist supporters of Israel support it by various means. The war on Palestine is international, and it is the duty of all Marxists around the world to engage with the history and the ideas of Zionism in order to better struggle against it.
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Sources (to be updated soon):
- A History of Modern Palestine One Land, Two Peoples (2006) - Ilan Pappe
- Crisis, Revolution, and Russian Jews (2009) - Jonathan Frankel
- Decolonizing Israel, Liberating Palestine Zionism, Settler Colonialism, and the Case for One Democratic State (2021) - Jeff Halper
- Israel and South Africa the many faces of Apartheid (Pappe, Ilan)
- Land, Labor and the Origins of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, 1882-1914 (1996) - Gershon Shafir
- Might over Right How the Zionists Took over Palestine (Adel Safty)
- Rethinking Israel and Palestine Marxist Perspectives (Oded Nir (editor), Joel Wainwright (editor))
- Righteous Victims A History of the Zionist-Arab Conflict, 1881-2001 (Benny Morris)
- Ten Myths About Israel (Ilan Pappe)
- The Class Origins of Zionist Ideology (Stephen Halbrook)
- The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (2007) - Ilan Pappé
- The Gaza Strip The Political Economy of De-development (Sara Roy)
- The Hundred Years War on Palestine (Rashid Khalidi)
- The Idea Of Israel A History Of Power And Knowledge (Ilan Pappe)
- The Invention of the Land of Israel From Holy Land to Homeland (Sand, Shlomo)
- The Myths of Zionism (John Rose)
- Zionism and the Arabs, 1882-1948 A Study of Ideology (Yosef Gorny)
- Zionist Colonialism in Palestine (1965) - Fayez Sayegh
- Zionism a very short introduction (Michael Stanislawski)
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Love and deepest respect, to the people of Palestine, from Scotland..
love to you too, to the dear people of Scotland, I consider my second country. I studied there (University of Edinburgh for a year. I love Scotish people. "Nice day isn't it? They always talk bearing in mind the weather.
@aminereba Well, a nice day is a remarkable thing in Scotland. You only get one a week or so, and that's in the warmer months. Haha rainiest place I have ever been. Beautiful though. All that rain makes Britain and Ireland so green.
@@titanomachy2217 Yes tell me about it. One time there was a fog for two continuous weeks. I went to the movies it was full. When the sun came out, everybody left work and went to the parks. Of course it is beautiful and the wonderful Scottish people are what makes this country a sunshine country. I love Scottish people, they are witty, very rational and very bright.
Yezov and Yagoda 2.0....
1 Jewish state
Over 30 Islamic states ......so who is the colonizer?
When we needed him the most, he came through. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free 🇵🇸
Are you following "Work Stoppage" podcast which is keeping up to date on anti-Zionist action each week?
@@jamiemcintosh3030 nope, but I will be now! Thanks for the recommendation. Educate, organize, agitate.
Try using the real version: "From water to water, Palestine will be Arab."
@@v3nom11065how is it the "real version"
@@v3nom11065 thanks for the correction, I have yet to hear that one in the discourse I've been apart of. I will definitely look into it, thanks comrade!
I’m not even Palestinian and I can feel and hear their cries of pain and suffering. It’s the most outstanding outrageous injustice of our time. Fantastic video thank you ❤
And the greatest political fraud in history. It has affected the whole world.
Same!😢
I have read books, seen lectures & done many things to know about the Palestine injustice & i knew a fair bit of things than most people around me but this single MASTERCLASS has opened a new avenue. I am really glad I found this channel
@@PoshByDefault Benu Israel and Beni Israel are mentioned. I know that quite well my friend but in your rather poor view of the ‘ mention’ you have no clue as how to every single one of them is mentioned. We can have a discussion about this topic if you wanted to
@@PoshByDefault another fun fact for you dear Devil is mentioned 88 times in the holy Quran
It is indeed here's another fact the deal that they had with Allah was broken by themselves, they did not accept all of the prophets in fact i'm sure that if i ask them their thoughts about Muhammad peace be upon him and the prophets before him they wouldn't have nice things to say
Actually they even refused to fight by Moses's side and some even commited association which is disrespecting the foundation of monotheism itself then there is these acts of oppression that they are inflicting how can you even deffend all these acts of rebelion against Allah if you looked through the Quran?@@PoshByDefault
A lot of people need to see this video and ACTUALLY BE EDUCATED, thank you so much
This video doesn’t provide education. Go and do unbiased research. See what was happening to Jews in the Middle East for hundreds-thousands of years.
It is so said that the intentions of Zionism are in the open, we just need to look harder. I have always known that it was a colonial entity but to see it so detailed and how other colonial powers enabled them because of their shared goal of Europeans to colonise non-Europeans, was just hard breaking and sad. Bless you for this video.
This is probably the most detailed history of Zionism in Palestine that I've seen on CZcams. Great video, thank you! Free Palestine!
It's certainly different. There are plenty of things that have been left out though. As a jew I still appreciate this video. Very interesting.
What about the colonialism of Turkey in Cyprus? Would you say that the jews that were expelled from Arab countries should get their land and property back? Do you condem the ethnic cleasing of these victims that did nothing wrong. They never declared war on anybody.
@@benjaminbritsch1749hey hey hey its whataboutism (argument rejected)
This documentary is really important to see for everyone. Maybe especially for Israelis. Palestinians have been through this tragedy,Been oppressed ever since this happen and now They go through a genocide💔
IWonder if things wouod have been different if everybody knew about this earlier.
There are some Israelis with courage. I Thank them for speaking up
The intro is so heartbreaking. I wish the people who stand for Israel would just take a beat and really look at the human tragedy that’s happening. It’s unconscionable to support Israel anymore. And everyone who keeps saying “what about October 7th” needs a mandatory history lesson.
They know. The Israelis know. The Zionists just don't care, or rather, they celebrate all the inhumanity
@victormeidan1062
1- Europeans are from Europe's, that includes Polish, Hungarian, Russian, Ukrainian, and German Jews. Not in any way related to the holy land, unless you can convince me that a Chinese man who converted to Judiasm is indigenous to the Middle East.
2- Palestinians are not "Arabs", they're Arabized, huge difference between the two.
@@muhammaDEsmustafa these people are incorrigible
@@victormeidan1062Wow. How can we fight with that "logic"? Let's have DNA tests in Israel to dispell any doubts 😂
@@muhammaDEsmustafa
If Jews were from Europe, they would be called Europeans.
If Jews were from Africa, they would be called Africans.
Nope.
Jews (Yahudi) cone from Judea (Yahuda). Hence the name.
Thank you so much. I grew up with the mythology that grew up in the aftermath of WWII. It had only recently been won and stood as proof of the essential honourability of the West. We had wrestled Evil to the ground , and could look forward to a brighter tomorrow. Part of the Evil, it was said, was the callous indifference the West had displayed toward the Jewish sufferings under Nazism . The whole mythology was portrayed in the movie "Exodus" with Paul Newman. I highly recommend that younger folks of today try to get ahold of a copy of this movie if they want to understand the mindset that formed the basis of support for Israel that can still be found amongst Western liberals of my age. Now it was our duty to do everything we could to rectify our mistake - as though anything we could do now would bring back any of the millions of slaughtered human beings.
And then I moved to the big city and started meeting leftists in my high school. The first myth to fall was the claim that the world had "stood by and done nothing" while Jews were exterminated. Not true. Millions marched in protest against fascism. They were ignored by word leaders.
The second myth was the equation of fascism and anti-Semitism. While it is true that fascism is ultra-racist, it in not true that anti-Semitism is foundational to it. Mussolini - the inventor of fascism - did not initiate any Holocaust, and resisted Hitler's demands that he export Jews (more because he did not want to be ordered around by Hitler than out of any sympathy for Jews). And Jews were only the first among the so-called untermeschen whom the Nazis wanted to cleanse from the earth. They thought this project would take a thousand years and hence called their regime the "Thousand Year Reich". Jews amounted to only around half of the victims of the extermination camps.
But the big issue for the Left at the time was of course Vietnam, where we were the bad guys. This, and feminism, took up most of my energy. And then the coup in Chile happened, and Argentina, and the struggles in Latin America took my energy.
Along the way, Vanessa Redgrave made a documentary about Palestine, which was picketed by the ADL - whom she called a bunch of Zionist thugs. But there were so many other things happening I simply did not have time for an indepth study of the Middle East situation. I knew enough to understand that the Palestinians were the wronged party and that Israel was not the democracy we were told.
So now I'm doing a lot of catching up and am horrified to discover how much worse it really was. And the fact that so many early Zionists were anti-Semites is just mind blowing. So this wasn't a case of good guys gone wrong - well-intentioned people losing their way.
So thank you for the much needed education.
Funny if you remember Primo Levi was sent to Auschwitz from the "reluctant" Italy.
Western so-called Allies knew early on what had been happening to the Jews at the hands of Nazi Germany and collaborators - read up on Jan Karski and the heroic Witold Pilecki (who intentionally smuggled himself into Auschwitz, from where he'd later managed to escape, with meticulous reports and evidence) - and decided against taking any action.
Good comment. Thank you.
@@gaylenhalbert4391 You're very welcome. I know it's hard for younger folks to understand why Israel has received so much support over the decades. It really does come down to liberal guilt tripping over the supposed inaction around the Holocaust. It's what cult experts call "a thought stopping technique".
Bes D. Marx, your timing is impeccable. Keep up the good work. Viva La Revolution!
This is the history that schools in America should be teaching. I wish I had learned it much earlier. Thank you for a concise, well researched video. Looking forward to the next one.
From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free! 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
I agree
@@laymanlinguist Sadly, the US keeps on scrubbing and sanitizing its history. The prospect of a "patriotic" K-12 curriculum, such as the 1776 Project, gives me the creeps. And Florida has become the test lab for sabotaging public education.
Excellent synthesis of the history of the pre-state of Israel zionist movement. The narration highlights what is relevant to understanding the current context. Really well done 👏👏👏
Thank you!!
@@BesDMarxwhen is part 3 due? I watched part 2 which is really good on the hypocrisy which dominates public discourse when it comes to Israel.
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
You have done an excellent job putting all of this together. Your in depth knowledge of the people and the history is unparalleled. Thank-you so much for taking the time to put this together.
Have you written any books?
Friend, your videos provide me with the information i have been looking for for years and they keep coming in the exact moment i need them, you have no idea how much i appreciate your work, i promise to support you when i can
Your analysis of the origins of Zionism is very detailed and quite excellent, as far as it goes... however, it only goes back to 1880 and concerns itself primarily with the political origins of Zionism. Philosophically, however, the roots of Zionism can be traced back through Frankism, all the way to the (false) Jewish 'messiah' of 1666, Sabattai Tsvi... I think it is important not to overlook this fact, because without the Frankist element, so-called 'secular Judaism', or even the so-called 'reformed Judaism', would have been unthinkable. It is only with the double-standard provided by the Frankist/Sabbataean 'Law of Inversion' that such notions even becomes possible. Perhaps you might consider investigating this in a future video...
always super thorough and well-researched, thanks for the video! From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Fakestine will never be.
No it won't.
10 million Israelis say so !
Svoboda Palěstině, od rěky do morja!
From River to the Sea,
Palestine will be free
From the Sea to the River,
Palestine will live forever 🇵🇸
Nice projection !
@@victormeidan1062 How is this "projection", even to Hasbara? That doesn't even make sense. So desperate to say something snippy you betray the limitations of your wit, just like all sionistas
@@victormeidan1062 How is this "projection", even in the mind of the sionista? That doesn't even make sense. So eager to say something geno sidal and snippy that the limits of your wit are exposed, as always with Hasbara
Thank you so much. WE WILL NEVER STOP PUSHING AGAINST ZIONISM. EVERYONE DESERVES TO LIVE A LIFE OF DIGNITY. NEVER! AGAIN!
In the US, andso ashamed of my government! We keep voting for people who PROMISE to stop getting blood on our hands, but they NEVER DO!!!
Great piece, thank you. This history needs to be told
A masterpiece in historical preservation
Gwrman newspapers represent a weird inverse world whenever tslking about zionism. Its allegedly not colonialism but anti-colonialism, bombing campians against people are "self-defense" while protesting against them is antisemitic, saying "from the river to the sea, palestine will be free" is a crime, but denying that palestine exists and has existed before zionism is not.
by the end of this video, I couldn't help but cry...
I've found some of this out myself but this excellent video certainly is linking all those broken pieces together and giving them the rest of the puzzle for me to truly see. I did like how they said that so long as they see a chance for Palestine they will not stop resisting... No they sure haven't, which I think is truly great and admirable, and ever so brave.
It’s amazing that they are The Chosen Ones, and God didn’t provide them a homeland…
Hey, Bes, do you have a citation for the remark at 18:31, about early settlers "comparing themselves to white settlers who pushed into the west in North America"? I was just speaking with someone who is looking for instances of Zionists making explicit comparisons between their settler colonial project and the one in North America. If you can point me in the right direction, it would be very helpful!
I waited so long for this, finally!!
British Consulate in Jerusalem was encouraging Jews to immigrate to Palestine in 1838 despite the fact that Turks withdrew from Jerusalem/Palestine completely 1917 shows that Ottoman Empire had lost the control of Palestine way before the Arab revolt (1916-1918) I think Turks underestimated the power of Zionism and sadly were naïve to trust anything coming from Anglophones because Theodor Herzl’s first offer to Sultan to buy Palestine from Ottomans was in 1836. So they should have been aware of the Zionist Anglophone agenda. Turks missed miserably what Lawrence of the Arabia was doing in the Middle East disguised as archeologist and paid dearly for their naivety and incompetency.
Great work. Really comprehensive. Can't wait for the next part. And nice Messi reference.
Switzerland- The birthplace of Israel.
the detail of your analysis is wonderful. I can't fathom how you don't have a million subscribers. thank you 🙏
I'm pausing the video around the 13-minute mark just to say I appreciate the actually useful, dialectical-materialist perspective on nationalism presented here. Blanket condemnations of nationalism, without respect to the liberatory vs, oppressive character of any given instance of nationalism, as if some metaphysical ideal of Nationalism exists, are a thoroughly liberal vice of which some of our friends on the left need to rid themselves.
Thank you for this series... I've been hearing some loose comments on how zionism has the same root of socialism/communism... And was very very confused.
The second part of this series focusses on that specific question, but this intro is crucial to follow the rest of the story.
Fast paced but thoroughly well informed and exposed.
✊🏼
Happy the video cleared some things up! Thank you!
28:31 I got goosebumps at that part, although it’s a political video it felt like I was watching an old one piece theory by alpha2late or the incredible marco the theorist, I love this channel so much
Thanks!! Glad to hear, as a big fan of those channels, that this video can evoke similar emotions.
@@BesDMarx so cool 😆 keep doing more of these if they fulfill you, to me you’re a bit easier to listen to than hakim for example (whom I also am a big fan of!)
As always, great video! Very informative and interesting. I'm always learning something new by watching these videos and for me (a pretty dumb person whosenative language isn'tenglish) they're always easy to understand..
None of us is 'dumb'. This is what they tell us to keep us disempowered. Do not believe the Oppressors' words
@@gauravtejpal8901 maybe I used the wrong word. Uneducated would be more accurate, but I somewhat agree with you..
@@gauravtejpal8901 lol why are you guys suddenly anti colonization ???? the arabs themselves formed Palestine based on colonization why is it suddenly a bad thing if done by jews?
This is for sure the best documentary or video I've seen on this.
Even in the 18th century it was known by an Austrian military leader that Israel is the homeland of the jews! Didnt know that thank you for educating us!
Wake up babe, new Bes D. Marx essay just dropped 🔥🔥🔥
You understand what a content creator ought to do. Your videos are actually useful and can be used as polemics. This is either intentional or just a positive coincidence
Once again outstanding work from you comrade. This is so well done.
Best Marxist CZcamsr. It's hard competition but your videos are always so enlightening on real current politics. Now that is historical materialism
Tears in my eyes,thank you for this.
Thank you so much for all of your informative and well researched videos! ❤ From the river to the sea ❤
With the will of D, we'll make sure that From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free! 🇵🇸🇵🇸
Always coming through at the right moment! Love your work and timing comrade!
Excellent review of the events ❤
I love the use of the intro music of "Ounadikom" ❤
I always get happy when I get notified of a new video of yours. Excellent work as always!
"Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our 2,000 years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us." Albert Einstein.
GREAT COVERAGE, THANK YOU
I was wondering where you went! Missed your videos man
Very well done- you never seem to miss!
VIVA LA PALESTINE 🇵🇸
I cannot find the second chapter in the documentary, does anybody have a name for it so I can search for it?
Along of the superb analysis, your pronunciation of Hebrew names is very good.
great video as always! I really like the overview you have made of zionism
This needs more views
Very important Doku, thank you for raising awareness
This is the most detailed and informative video I have found on the origins of Zionism and the colonization of Palestine. Thank you for sharing this knowledge with us ❤
GREAT JOB
VERY INFORMATIVE VIDEO
AND EXCELLENT SEQUENCE WITH PROFESSIONAL NARRATIVE SKILLS
THANKS A MILLION ...
It's frustrating to know about what is going on in the world and seeing so much ignorance and support for it. In feeling powerless, it's nice to see these projects and at least do my part in sharing them. Fellow chad uploading hours apart from Second Thought, Anark, and I ~
Incredible work. Thank you!!
Serious question: What is your plan, if any, for Z___ist onslaught of these comments? It's not a moral question ofc, but a practical one: When one side has the power to create the illusion of a large crowd online with just a few paid trolls working in tandem, what does the actual crowd do? I don't have an answer, either, but we better damn well think of one soon!
Love ya, Bes-D and comrades. ✊ 🛠️
Who cares? That's engagement. If you are principled no amount of lies bothers you. At worst they will squander their money at best they will have some of their following change their point of view. He is quoting their own writings
@@BalkanSpectremisinformation online is a deadly serious problem
A small channel with a highly specialized worldview is going to be inherently less susceptible. You might be right, on this channel in this moment, but it's a question worth asking as it's a massive issue.
@@Pensnmusic you give people the tools to fight misinformation. In this video, like most communist creator's material, you aren't only given the data - not only given different perspectives (even quoted) - but also the framework in which to analyze them. For someone that learns how to analyze reality scientifically why would they be afraid of bots? You can't "convince" anyone you can't "force" truth down anyone's throat. You need to provide them with the tools to understand reality and the hope/drive to change it
@@BalkanSpectre _"If you are principled no amount of lies bothers you."_
I invite you to reconsider this statement.
@@Pensnmusic TBC, I didn't mean we ought worry about "misinformation". Rather, the concern is that this comment section will a) become completely useless for comradely conversations about Palestine and the occupation, and b) will give casual observers the impression that support for Zionists is through the roof, as has happened with at least one "Breakthrough News" video of late...
One of the most honest videos on what Zionism always was
Kommt er einfach wieder um die Ecke mit einem Banger, gut Ding will in der Tat Weile haben 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
I'm latinoamerican, this video is my listening and learning about zionism as well😊
💖 thanks Bes!
One can argue the father of Zionism Herzl was a Serb since both his parents originate there & are buried in Belgrade. No wonder he looked like a Chetnik!
Bes D. FUCKING MARX dude this one is one of the best videos I've ever seen dude. Thank you my GOAT!
Very good summary. Thank you for your work!
Great video, I can't wait for the next part.
What’s the name of the song at the beginning ?
Muslim organizations used to be more honost too. About the razzia's in the 1920's and earlier and how to work together with the Nazi's since the 1930's and Hamas was more honost in their first charter.
when are we getting part 2?????
Another great video. thanks!
Zimbabwe once was, and then was Rhodesia, and now is! So Palestine will be once again.
Where did you learn all of this?
Thank you king.
Yet another banger video!
up this banger
It's colonialism.
much like the muslim colonization and roman colonization which took the land from the jews in the first place
Finally! Historical materialism!
Waiting keenly for part 2.
Great video 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
It's horrible
This flag will never fall! 🇵🇸
Absolutely amazing! Long live Palestine! 🇵🇸🇵🇸
I want to cry
@7:50 Who was Lenin related to?
Will there be a third video on nazism?
I would say even dogs learn faster than Palestinians some lessons have to be learned the hard way I suppose 🤔
💔💔💔
colonialism is now fascistionable
No they did not I am old all I have seen is decades of lies and violence
Fire content
Can someone please post the full lyrics to the song in the introduction.
Noooooo!!! when is the next video😭😭
Great work, comrade!
Whats the song in the beginning?
Salam Ya Mahdi
@@muhammaDEsmustafa thanks