Drone News (1 Oct, 2022)
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- In this drone and RC plane news report:
00:06 - FPV into an asteroid
00:51 - Lilium Jet air taxi folly
04:11 - Drone delivery lunacy in Ireland
06:09 - Google Wing delivery drone crashes on powerlines
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Have you noticed the one thing that is always missing from all of these electric air taxi promo videos? The sound. Be it powered by conventional props, or EDF's, they never let you hear just how bloody loud they really are. And I am guessing there is only one reason for that! Add the noise issue to all the other impracticalities of a personal electric air taxi, you would have thought these guys would have given up already. But whilst the money keeps rolling in, they will keep on at it. Gives them something to do I guess.
The thing I lost it on recently was seeing an article about an "ion powered drone", which is supposed to be silent (I think it was even in the company name), and you go to watch the demo video and it's an EDF with ion propulsion just for tilting the drone.
@@jkenny1 Yeah, I did a "busted" video on that one.
My favorite part is how thar trying to upscale a fricken multirotor drone, when helicopters already exist & they get the job done exponentially better than what all these so-called "air taxis" will ever do.
At least helicopters can autorotate, when their engine/motor fails. Multirotors on the other hand, they literally drop out of the sky & crash, when their motors quit.
quite right. the main airport in wellington has a curfew because the current noise levels, and that is after the jets flying in there were all superceded by modern turbofans (aka whisperjets) that introduced intermediate layers of airflow around the highest speed central exhaust flow to reduce the ripping noise on take off (zero airframe speed, maximum exhaust speed). These air taxis will never get a permit to operate in any city anywhere, with no feasible solution in sight. Physics + community tolerance for noise simply says no, especially given that air taxis are like air travel - a niche for the comparatively wealthy.
We don't even want to build a 4 lane road to the airport - Who is that for? We fly once a year despite being firmly upper middle class, why should we pay for that? We are certainly not going to permit air taxis to increase traffic and noise in our neighbourhoods further, and they are clearly gonna be aimed to urban to near urban transport.
@@munkywrench00 Noise levels was one of the reasons why Concorde got so many restrictions placed on her, regarding where she could & couldn't fly.
When everything was all said & done, Concorde was almost never allowed to fly at or above Mach 1, whenever she was flying over densely populated land.
Also, since Concorde, there has been numerous attempts at supersonic passenger aircraft (Spike Aerospace, & Boom Supersonic come to mind here). But, they all only get so far, before thar stonewalled by the same restrictions that Concorde faced. Then, they (for all intents & purposes) drop off the radar after-the-fact.
If I were a betting gal, I would put my money on these so-called "air taxis" being met with the same (if not similiar) restrictions due to noise _alone,_ much less any other issues.
That was bizarre watching a canard flying at 169 kph with fully stalled canard! Lol…so weird…. Thanks Laurie
Nice one! The software delivery is hilarious.🤣
I live and work not too far from the Wing delivery trial area in Brisbane. Another thing that is hushed up (apart from the flying incidents and accidents) is the number of noise complaints.
People who lived in quiet back streets near the base of operations now have these flying over their houses all day.
A quote from one of Google Wing’s representatives summed up the company’s priorities. After causing a blackout for thousands of households, while the delivery drone was being retrieved, “The food was still hot”. 🤪
What a relief that must have been! 😀
Doesn't NASA know you have to keep the drones in LOS? Maybe the FAA should fine them.
Nah they were flying outside the NAS 😂😂😂
But did they have a spotter???
My Dear Bruce, Quote "You can't land into a VTOL landing area at 180 kph", I did ! Hope you are well Sir. Regards.
Not likely to be a landing you can walk away from though... eh? 😀
You're not the only one who sees all the problems drone deliveries could face which would make it un viable, everyone in the hobby does, it's only those that are raking (embezzling) money in from big corporates that are pushing it
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a way to recharge the drone for extended trips lol
Thanks for the news, Bruce! 😊
But yeah, drones make MUCH more sense for stuff like search and rescue, for surveillance of an area and so on.
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
English is not my native language but
Mostly i don’t have problems with it. But it took me a few “repeates”, turning on English subtitles and some
Googling to figure out what you were saying about all the pointy things that are on the wings: EDF’s, Electric Ducted Fans 😅
Or at least i hope i figured it out well 🤔😬
English is my native language. Thanks for helping me figure out what he said lol
Great analysis.
Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you Professor
It's so disappointing to see what companies like Google have done to cast a dark shadow over the RC hobby to push legislation for their benefit, then for them to actually pose the threat they said existed (that never did from Hobbyists) with no consequences.
Chef apparently forgot to cook the chicken so the pilot said “no worries I got this”. Good stuff Bruce!
I wonder if they used a bigger drone to rescue the powerline drone 🤔😁👍
I wonder if the power line was able to keep the food warm?
Excellent video thanks
Was talking to the life flight guys about drone delivery for organs. They where saying that live tissue which includes blood has to be transported with a certified courier and it's a big money business in the US. So probably no drones for there here
I think drone delivery might make sense for some infrequent, but time critical scenarios - perhaps delivering medical supplies to impromptu field hospitals, for example - but if you're sending your fast food to someone, why not just get one of those Starship robots to take it on wheels at just over walking speed? Yes, those have driven into lakes (and in one spectacular failure, driven across an active level crossing) but they still have an excellent success/failure ratio.
LOL. Bruce Willis was at a "loss for words". I mean, I do feel bad for his aphasia condition, really a horrible thing to happen to a person, but that was still pretty funny.
im looking forward to your drone/airtaxi video, very interresting topic...and not easy to pull off, many interresting topics to consider, cheers
are the zero x dones any good or are they copy's I've seen the same drone with different names and alot cheaper then the zero x evolved that I just brought
MANY GOOD POINTS
I heard a rumour that FAA drone IDs are a pilot study for guns. Of course the shooters would also have geo location ;).
In the gaming community getting a physical version of a game to add to you collection is important to diehard fans and a lot of games get sold back to the store which can't be done with digital sales. So I wouldn't say it is completly without merit. Those people would have driven to the store to pick up the same purchase thus using even more resources.
I’ve been in aviation all my professional life and man, you’re speaking my mind!! This crap is just lobbied and paid for and will never work
Wing will most likely have a talk with CAA on what exactly happened, why it happened that way, what is the risk of similar incident repairing, how such incident will be prevented in the future. This will probably happen behind closed doors because there is no "just culture" in unmanned aviation. In 2018 out of ~16000 incidents reported in Australia 77 were reported by RPAS pilots or operators amount of reportable incidents was suspected to be significantly higher. Regular Joe wouldn't call CAA or write a report on the incident but rather get the drone and GTFO before authorities connected him to the incident.
That’s just a regular landing for me 😂💯 so true!
Hi Bruce Next news report Australia Queensland police were complaining that CASA laws are blocking full use of new Drones . Because of line to sight regulations.
2:00 talk about power consumption lol
did the delivered food taste SHOCKING or was it reVOLTing
That's CURRENTly being investigated but the customer was heard to say "OHM my" when they heard the news.
The mine I'm working in has these huge big mining trucks driving around with no peaple in side them its a real eye opening for sure.
autonomous mining trucks
autonomous mining drills
But at least these trucks are in a limited, defined area where the only people are told the do's and don'ts, as opposed to these anywhere the company likes near people who are uninformed of the dangers and procedures, etc.
The dangers of drones are, at this stage, only from government and corporate drones. If Bruce's drone hit a powerline, the biggest problem will be a molten lump hitting the ground, it isn't big enough to get caught on more than one wire and I have seen plenty of bats and birds caught across wires that hang there till they rot. Lucky that is outside the monitoring of my power bill.
The strings on the front are not actually on the wing surface but on the nacelle surface. I'm not so sure the the front wing is stalled. Let me know what you think.
The fore-plan may not be totally stalled but given how much of the foreplane is covered by that nacelle it's also not going to be producing much lift and the drag will still be extraordinarily high.
Hi Bruce, isn't there a 'wing' of sorts (a canard) in front of those front EDF nacelles? I'm not sure the front nacelles themselves are designed to produce aerodynamic lift, are they? I mean, even if they aren't, they'd certainly provide a big chunk of drag - so I guess it would be good design to have them generate some lift when travelling forward. I guess your point still stands, in that, whatever the configuration, the thing looks pretty inefficient (I'm no aerodynamicist).
Why would they put the strings on it if they weren't expecting it to generate lift?
We have working flying cars already, we call them helicopters.
"I'm lost for words..." funny.
I hope the current in the power lines kept the chicken warm.
It certainly wasn’t wireless recharging of the drone.
Can wait for them to work the bugs out on drone delivery 👍
Maybe the onboard sensors detected the food was getting cold and tried to warm it on thrower lines. Perhaps the unit was equipped with advance AI and it sought to recharge using the magnetic field around the cables. Perhaps it's a schiff idea ? Take care.
Frustrating how these big companies have sooooo much drone freedom and we jump through ever shrinking hoops.
Hi Bruce Great news clip. I just laughed so hard at the delivery drones, I'm still waiting for a child to grab the string and pull it down. Will the CAA go after WINGS ? I think not ! But was the chicken still hot ? Thanks again for the video and information. Looking forward to the next episode.
Bruce on Bruce beat down? Come on Man!
+1👍"the roast chicken must be freed" :)) 💪
There's a lot to go wrong there, Bruce, but there is also a lot of redundancy.
Google was just testing a new RECHARGING system. :D
Bruce, I think you are showing your age suggesting deliveries by steam, a Jules Verne like steam copter will never work. ;). Or did I miss something
Yes.. There are a lot of problems for the delivery system with drones.. A lot of research and investment is underway to establish drone delivery in Korea, but there are still many hurdles to overcome. 아직 넘어야 할 산이 많네요... ㅠ.ㅠ
These air taxi ideas, run on government funding anyways Bruce
HAHA, yeah I read that today too. ;D
I'm laughing because the good thing is this happens to all of us because we're still humans and luckily in our hobby or "branch" whatever you want to call it, usually when mistakes happen no lifes are lost or even remotely endangered.
A planned precautionary power-cut to inspect the site is more than tolerable considering the potential future use of our beloved little models, hehe. ;)
cheers BRUCE. ;)
The points and problems you list up are on point, the direction these companies are going does seem overly cocky and confident, which is a joke.
I agree with everything you said in this video. The first craft makes my palms sweaty 😳 anyone who knows about aerodynamics would not aproove this design. Looking forward to the anti-airtaxi video. Air taxi over water would be fine, but damn they are loud. All those craft will need parachutes for some sort of safety, and still be lethal if any failure happens over people or propperty. Might aswell use rockets with parachutes to deliver stuff. Talk about fast food 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh you and your knowledge of aerodynamics and physics, we all know EDFs are for converting electrons to noise
Good to know im not the only one who thinks electric air taxies sound like a stupid idea
6:29 - just a short stop to warm up the meal between 2 lines.
Regarding lilium it might be a question of the business case and the might be some where emission will force to replace the helicopters around the airports. Have not heard about electric powered helicopters.
Huge project and they can operate just a year or so before they need another funding. Again a company run by former Airbus managers to get the production prepared for run and the certification. They still have not explained the key question and solution about their efficiency, energy consumption and battery - drive train to achieve the goals they were communicating, at least the previous ceo had to step down when the Nicola empire broke down back then.
WIth the rocket launcher style edf on the wing there is not much of any lift left. And they will have 4 independent pivot mechanism on or in each wing which will be the biggest risk compared to a dead or broken edf . Maybe the speedcontroller can also become an issue too. Long way to go - or the magic of a wonder might help, a new cell chemistry or solid state battery we have not heard about yet.
But the progress in battery tech has slowed down in the past 3 - 5 years, only innovations of cell to pack ratios and a bit Tesla magic in the new bigger cells gaining 3 or 5% here and there, but not 30% more range. But let us wait and see, the revolution of EV has found its way too even though there was not much 5 years ago to mention beyond the whole Tesla motion back then in 2017.
I'd be more concerned about the number of electronic control modules. If they don't have sufficient redundancy on those, then yeah, it could be dicey.
Well wanted to give my opinion on delivery with drone. Yes you can deliver over the Internet but think how many customers will use drone delivery just to try it. They will make quadruple profits. Now on the wire landing. We just had a sheriff's helicopter hit power lines and kill everyone on board so yes the drone hit the lines but it was only loss of power instead of loss of lives!
there is almost no internet in the outback. Drone delivery makes sense if it can make the journey.
Yeah, but given the distances involved, drone delivery is going to be pretty impractical in the outback 🙂
Starlink :P
sometimes new things seems to be stupid, but after using it sometimes the Real demands start filling the air :) Do you remember the mobile phones how people used to say common these people with mobiile phone!!? Can't they go around just for couple of hours without phone? Oh this and oh that. Today even you can not lay your mobile phone
Nice “controlled” landing. Some people will have ideas now.
War in Ukraine has proven that drones are quite good at delivering grenades into vehicles and trenches.
Landing on power lines could be a part of a we'll executed landing if the piot couldn't be see them.
Thank you Sir Bruce!
For your information and explanations! I learned a lot!
That google drone, this is one of the extremely few reasons to shoot down a drone. Not while it's flying but while it's stuck on the powerline disrupting a hole community. Shoot it to 100 pieces!
0:33 - I dd what see you there.
Consumer item drone delivery is still a stupid idea. Thousands of drones delivering pizza, etc, and lots of people wanting to down a drone. High importance items for medical I'd support, but that would be an expensive well maintained robot aircraft, and not delivering to random locations.
Drone delivery of anything other than emergency medical supplies to remote areas is absolutely ridiculous under any analysis whatsoever. Bird strikes will take down drones large enough to deliver anything worthwhile as will hardware malfunctions and that, if this ever became widespread (and it WON'T) would then present large hazards to persons and properties in populated areas. Another problem if it ever became widespread would be cargo thefts and people under flight paths getting tired of the noise while trying to relax in their back yards at which point physical anti-drone efforts might be taken by hotheads.
Look at what they have to do, to imitate a fraction of our power.
You can't park there⚠️😲🤔😳
3:13 how can these technology companies make claims and produce prototypes when it seems they dont actually know about the physics behind what they are trying to acheive?
Finaly someone that doesnt buy the electric flight folly. Not sure why other hype it, the energy storage VS weight just doesnt work with electric flight.
So if you ordered a game and it was delivered via drone and the drone gets radio hijacked... Then what? 😄
I laugh.. That's what.😁
You're right Bruce.. A total waist of resources. I had installed a mod chip in my PS 1 long before the internet was invented and burned my own games to CD.
Then the data got larger per game and they used 8gb DVD media disks.
But the same thing can be done for all game consoles and if you don't have a good data connection or harddrive space, upgrade that first and do yourself a huge favor.
This happens when you order chicken by wings
Very nose heavy Lilium
Right now, GPS is assisting a million people in ten thousand aircraft. All of us have been there. Were you frightened at the prospects? Did you not get on the plane? I am yawning in terror.
And all those aircraft have pilots and backup navigational systems. Drones and pilotless air taxis have neither.
@@xjet exactly. There is one option: eject 😂
The most ridiculous thing to deliver with a drone would be a drone
This FIFA delivery was so stupid :D
This is what they ruined our wonderful hobby for. Insane!
Bruce, we love your videos, and thanks for researching all this and posting it for our edification. I would suggest though, if there were a CME (coronal mass ejection) a few drones hitting the deck would be the least of our problems.
There have been instances where GPS reception was adversely affected by relatively minor CMEs that didn't produce other more devastating effects in the way that the Carrington Event did. People forget just how weak the signal from GPS satellites is and therefore how easily it is disrupted by noise or jamming.
That is how human progress works : trials and errors. What would the 1900's Bruce have said about these crazy men trying to fly with their strange and idiotic paper wings ?
If you or I crashed into and knocked out power lines, we’d be branded terrorists and thrown in jail.
So if you have a mishap of this sort, just say “What happened to the roast chicken that we were delivering?” That should get you a get out of jail free card.
Google lands plane on power line.. slap on the wrist, me landing a drone in power line Jail!
This is what happens when a company has too much money and not enough sense to hire competent people.
Funny how we need eyes on drone in order to fly FPV but these clowns can do it with no consequences. Google and all other drone delivery companies are so full of it.
I know some of the Google Wing people. Talk about a bunch of people with over inflated egos.
🤘🤣
this chicken, drink, crap google toe in the water is why the sky is being taken off us, 1984 is now
I will never accept delivery by drones.
I heard that Russian Tank Crews were ordering grenades via drone delivery
What kind of aeronautical engineer puts the engines on the top of the wings. The world is getting dumber by the year.
Years ago I got offered a job developing delivery drones, ha ha ha, no thanks.
BTW you don't need wings on a vetol because with a horizontal propulsion fan/s the vertical props act as efficient wings. BTDT.
Lol the drones. If these things start flying then an average Joe with a GPS jammer can cause destruction. FPV stuff doesn't fall out of the sky because of GPS lock. If the FAA had regulations against this crap then they would actually be doing stuff, instead of wasting everyone's time making pointless regulations for toys.
long story short, this is a bad design from the aerodynamic point of view.
if someone invests in that lillium 1 .. i mean in their own advert they show if it has a single failure its a bomb into a crowded city and they want to market them for city flight .. baaahahahaha never going to ever get this legalised XD
if they are stupid enough to invest they deserve to loose their money XD
this channel has become nothing but drone fud and boomer rants. positive news thanks, there's enough negativity out there
It's called "a reality check". If you want to buy into the hype, hysterial and deception that is the drone-delivery and air-taxi industry then you are most welcome to.
my slug gun will help google with there controlled landing.....
10/10 click bait... That drone in the power lines was owned/operated by who, again?
You're conflating your subsidiaries :-P
I know that Alphabet is effectively Google, enjoy the video metrics :-)
I had that Lilium video in my reccomendations feed for days, now you saved me from watching it. thanks Bruce