the board turned off was due to the switch being activated under high lateral G force while the motor is not spinning, those kind of situation will not accur in real life(high lateral g+motor not spinning) there is a safety measure built in LCM, to not turn off the board if the motor is spinning
Is there an emergency power off option? Does this mean that pressing the power button won’t turn the board off if the motor is spinning at all, if so i like the safe guard however you may want to make sure there is a way to shut the board off in emergencies, such as a 3-5 sec hold of the power button. More than one time i have needed that, such as when my buddy got his gt sensor lodged under a root where the motor kept spinning and keeping the sensor push against the root.
@@floatwheel If i may offer a dissenting opinion. Most vehicles i own require a 1 or 2 second hold to power down, while the vehicle is at a standstill. If the vehicle is moving above 1 or 2mph, they will not power down at all. I think this is preferable, and here is why. It is very common for water to get into the switches, which shorts, and leaves them held in a pressed state. This results in dropping the rider when they next come to a stop/slowdown, which is much preferable to dropping them after 5 seconds. I have seen vehicles refuse to shut off while spinning, but this is a far less common occurrence, and why there are multiple faults that can turn off a vehicle (angle, foot pads, duty cycle, voltage, etc). This is all assuming you're using momentary switches. I know you said the enclosures were waterproof, but often water can get into a switch even without flowing fully through it to the enclosure. Don't know if you've tested that. Either way, whatever you pick will be fine, this is one of those situations where a simple circuit or even a complex firmware can't know the right answer in every situation.
I don't see why you can't program in the best of both worlds. If the power button is held for x seconds while the motor is spinning, beep or otherwise warn the rider, then attempt pushback and slowdown the wheel gradually (i.e. pretend the battery is running low)... if !desired result, warning beep again, wait a tick, and cut power. Gives you emergency cutoff ability but also gives the rider time to slow down / bail if the cutoff activation is accidental or the result of a switch fault.
She is going to the laboratory tomorrow for UN38.3 shipping certificate where she will go through a 1m drop test, short circuit test flight air pressure simulation and etc. I tried to drop test it on concrete surface multiple times, other than a pair of broken bumper, nothing really happens, still rides amazingly😆 battery and double decker esc are solid AF.
That was exactly what I wanted to see from fms product from the factory ,I'm sold I'll replace 100 bumpers if the BMS an controller can withstand it float for life !! I'd dig for a problem , "how much of this would it take to break the waterproof seal/battery pack (maybe some kind of impact sensor inside for data/ , I've seen the entire front of the controller bent out of shape
Nice. I think folks are waiting to see an overheat/hill test because that is a weakness of the GT. Seeing an improvement would generate a lot of excitement.
I like the power button design in the makerspev focer bundle. When it’s pressed in, it’s off, and it’s spring loaded to always be on. I think this makes a lot of sense as G force won’t accidentally turn it off. I’m sure you know this already but thought to point it out. Good design on not shutting off at speed tho! This test is bruuuuutal!
I was expecting a test run on the dyno. And now I get a minute of throwing the board around in an underground car park 😂 But good to see, that the board can withstand that!
at 0:37 a piece of plastic breaks off and another at 0:55. I have never had a piece of plastic break from my onewheel. You said we were waiting for better plastic. All of these not being in a single take is also concerning. I am starting to worry!
I love the transparency but I can’t lie, the bumper corner breaking off after just that concerns me a bit. I know it won’t affect most people but to me that test simulates the board rolling down a hill on a trail, I don’t want to buy a new set of bumpers after every trail ride. Another thing is the guys at TFL will do worse than that on their day to day riding. I love the board but I think you guys have a new opportunity for reinforced bumpers, this set of bumpers is good for most but I would would love to see a super durable set of bumpers for those who want it and are willing to pay more
You must not have a Onewheel. If you do, take it to a flat concrete area and do what he’s doing to it. I guarantee plastic will be coming off eventually. Rolling down a trail is a hell of a lot different then getting thrown/dropped onto concrete. Plastic isn’t indestructible
@@TheRealJoeyToews lol I’ve had a few, and I have thrown my current board around for over a year now and done everything in this video multiple times just from drops and bails + more on trails. Nothing on my board breaks like that. I do indeed run BANG bumpers and never had this problem on any of my boards or my friends boards. I’d also argue a board rolling off a cliff to direct impact with a rock is comparable to a 4 ft drop to cement. Don’t take my comment as hostile, I just think you’re wrong. And I’d love this board to be perfect, after all I have ordered one. I’m still objective to what I see in the tests and have faith that they will make improvements even if they aren’t necessary as they have been doing.
When is the adv pro ride video coming out ? Also what oa the biggest difference between adv and adv pro? I read the specs and looks very similar, only 2 miles more of range and ??
Was the BMS ever gone into detail on any of the videos and I missed it? Very curious what kind of bms will be used with such a heavy duty battery pack we will be getting.
That looks good. I did notice that it would shut off, or at least the LED’s would shut off. Anyway to fix that? Just wondering if someone does a 1 meter drip if it will turn off while they are riding
@@maddmikemu Not very confidence inspiring in that aspect. Can't tell if it shuts off only when it flips over or what the deal was. The lightbar status bit also flashed at what looked like full brightness for a sec for seemingly no reason so not too sure what that's about ...
it only shut off in high lateral g, when the motor is not running. (power switch hit hard) in real life situation, if the motor is being powered, the board will never shut down even if the switch is being pressed, this is by design
Hey, I see you are close to shipping the adv. Is it just the adv that you will be shipping or the adv pro as well? If it is just the adv, is there any eta on the adv pro at the moment? I am considering purchasing a onewheel and happened to see your project and would rather support your project where you embrace open source, instead of relying on proprietary stuff. I would prefer to get an adv pro but wanted to confirm before placing an order, just in case I have to wait for a long time to get it, so that I can instead place an order for the adv.
@@Eryktion Awesome. That is good to hear. Even so from looking at the website, it looks like both have a lot of the same parts including the motor. And so an 'upgrade' in the future would be just a matter of purchasing the few parts that are different, like the rails. Even the battery is the same I believe if you order adv with pro battery. Hopefully Tony can confirm here as well.
@@anupjsebastian the only difference between adv and adv pro is that the rails and mount blocks（and batteries,but you can also choose to have the adv with pro battery）
@@Ramonovich_Jan maybe cause it's already anwsered in the video description 🤷♂ " I tried to drop test it on concrete surface multiple times, other than a pair of broken bumper, nothing really happens, still rides amazingly😆 battery and double decker esc are solid AF."
They using standard tire diametr like xr, but there even more because it's Enduro right out the box as I understand, Tony was posting that floatwheel will pay revenue to the float life for the tire design
Should have perhaps dropped it on its side or nose more. This demonstration makes it look like the board would not survive one of thoose impacts since you seeme to make sure the tire takes the biggest impact
I wish I had waited to buy this instead of the previous version from a few years ago we had to assemble ourselves and came with wrong wires and other minor problems and the batteries suck terribly. :(
feels more like you didn't have the money to pre-order one, or chose not to, and you're secretly hoping things don't work out so you can say "Phew! They almost got me." accept that the product is real, and it's dope. save your money up bro.
I like the power button design in the makerspev focer bundle. When it’s pressed in, it’s off, and it’s spring loaded to always be on. I think this makes a lot of sense as G force won’t accidentally turn it off. I’m sure you know this already but thought to point it out. Good design on not shutting off at speed tho! This test is bruuuuutal!
the design you mentioned has a very significant defect, it will not have automatically turn off feature if you forget about turning it off it drains the battery and eats away the battery's life expectancy. We spent a shit ton of time to make this multifunction power button🤣🤣shit I can design a latch on button for 1 minutes, but be honest, a comsumer ready product should have more thoughts put into it.
@@floatwheel yah, I have seen many expensive batteries be destroyed because an idoling board drained it to low. Luckily my board only seems to drain .5v-1v a day wile idol. I’ve been lucky. I hope to implement many of the technology’s in the floatwheel into my personal board.
the board turned off was due to the switch being activated under high lateral G force while the motor is not spinning, those kind of situation will not accur in real life(high lateral g+motor not spinning) there is a safety measure built in LCM, to not turn off the board if the motor is spinning
Is there an emergency power off option? Does this mean that pressing the power button won’t turn the board off if the motor is spinning at all, if so i like the safe guard however you may want to make sure there is a way to shut the board off in emergencies, such as a 3-5 sec hold of the power button. More than one time i have needed that, such as when my buddy got his gt sensor lodged under a root where the motor kept spinning and keeping the sensor push against the root.
@@HiggsBoson_125 lets change the logic to be ，if motor spins hold button 5 sec to turn off
@@floatwheel If i may offer a dissenting opinion. Most vehicles i own require a 1 or 2 second hold to power down, while the vehicle is at a standstill. If the vehicle is moving above 1 or 2mph, they will not power down at all. I think this is preferable, and here is why. It is very common for water to get into the switches, which shorts, and leaves them held in a pressed state. This results in dropping the rider when they next come to a stop/slowdown, which is much preferable to dropping them after 5 seconds. I have seen vehicles refuse to shut off while spinning, but this is a far less common occurrence, and why there are multiple faults that can turn off a vehicle (angle, foot pads, duty cycle, voltage, etc). This is all assuming you're using momentary switches. I know you said the enclosures were waterproof, but often water can get into a switch even without flowing fully through it to the enclosure. Don't know if you've tested that.
Either way, whatever you pick will be fine, this is one of those situations where a simple circuit or even a complex firmware can't know the right answer in every situation.
I don't see why you can't program in the best of both worlds. If the power button is held for x seconds while the motor is spinning, beep or otherwise warn the rider, then attempt pushback and slowdown the wheel gradually (i.e. pretend the battery is running low)... if !desired result, warning beep again, wait a tick, and cut power. Gives you emergency cutoff ability but also gives the rider time to slow down / bail if the cutoff activation is accidental or the result of a switch fault.
@@mikefrom1974 a good idea, but for that, the switch would have to be integrated into the esc firmware, which this one is not afaik.
Can’t wait to dribble one of these on the court 🤙
😂😂😂😂
She is going to the laboratory tomorrow for UN38.3 shipping certificate where she will go through a 1m drop test, short circuit test flight air pressure simulation and etc. I tried to drop test it on concrete surface multiple times, other than a pair of broken bumper, nothing really happens, still rides amazingly😆 battery and double decker esc are solid AF.
That looked brutal.
Unstoppable
Can we see a fully assembled ADV Pro
That was exactly what I wanted to see from fms product from the factory ,I'm sold I'll replace 100 bumpers if the BMS an controller can withstand it float for life !! I'd dig for a problem , "how much of this would it take to break the waterproof seal/battery pack (maybe some kind of impact sensor inside for data/ , I've seen the entire front of the controller bent out of shape
The bumper chipped off lol. Use better plastics.
This man is brutally honest and I love it!!! Putting his shins on the line for the sake of transparency! FM could never!!
I love your transparency, public inclusion and demo/updates. Super cool and looking forward to owning one!
Nice. I think folks are waiting to see an overheat/hill test because that is a weakness of the GT. Seeing an improvement would generate a lot of excitement.
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I like the power button design in the makerspev focer bundle. When it’s pressed in, it’s off, and it’s spring loaded to always be on. I think this makes a lot of sense as G force won’t accidentally turn it off. I’m sure you know this already but thought to point it out. Good design on not shutting off at speed tho!
This test is bruuuuutal!
Sick! Can't wait for mine 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I was expecting a test run on the dyno. And now I get a minute of throwing the board around in an underground car park 😂
But good to see, that the board can withstand that!
It bounces nicely
When will we get an invoice for the remaining balance owed?
Just commenting to show my support, and hopefully boost the video.
at 0:37 a piece of plastic breaks off and another at 0:55. I have never had a piece of plastic break from my onewheel. You said we were waiting for better plastic. All of these not being in a single take is also concerning. I am starting to worry!
I love this guy..
Just need a nice set of concrete stairs to roll it down. That would satisfy me!
Looks like you need some shin guards for this testing! haha
Let’s see the aftermath!!!
I love the transparency but I can’t lie, the bumper corner breaking off after just that concerns me a bit. I know it won’t affect most people but to me that test simulates the board rolling down a hill on a trail, I don’t want to buy a new set of bumpers after every trail ride. Another thing is the guys at TFL will do worse than that on their day to day riding. I love the board but I think you guys have a new opportunity for reinforced bumpers, this set of bumpers is good for most but I would would love to see a super durable set of bumpers for those who want it and are willing to pay more
and same for the pads, wide pads please lol
with a love hump, like the platypus
You must not have a Onewheel. If you do, take it to a flat concrete area and do what he’s doing to it. I guarantee plastic will be coming off eventually. Rolling down a trail is a hell of a lot different then getting thrown/dropped onto concrete. Plastic isn’t indestructible
@@TheRealJoeyToews lol I’ve had a few, and I have thrown my current board around for over a year now and done everything in this video multiple times just from drops and bails + more on trails. Nothing on my board breaks like that. I do indeed run BANG bumpers and never had this problem on any of my boards or my friends boards. I’d also argue a board rolling off a cliff to direct impact with a rock is comparable to a 4 ft drop to cement. Don’t take my comment as hostile, I just think you’re wrong. And I’d love this board to be perfect, after all I have ordered one. I’m still objective to what I see in the tests and have faith that they will make improvements even if they aren’t necessary as they have been doing.
Strangely quite satisfying to watch :D
Haha this is my kinda party. 👏🏼👏🏼
Might finally meet your match
When is the adv pro ride video coming out ? Also what oa the biggest difference between adv and adv pro? I read the specs and looks very similar, only 2 miles more of range and ??
Love to see this! I need a super durable board!! 😍
🎵 Wheeennn a Floatwheel s'got an attitude, drop it like its haaaawtttt.
Your the best man I love all your videos.
whats the weight on this board anyway? held up like a beast
Strong and powerful just like u tony ❤
No ghosts, so that's good.
When is this test happening again?
Awesome.....!!
Somebody has to do a music mix with those sound and some deep tech! @frenchfuse ?
have you given a weigh yet? Lbs if you can. if not, Google is a thumb movement away. Thanks
Now drop it on an end instead of on the tire?
Can I pre-order this one at a discount? lol
What broke off the board Tony, was that a corner of the bumper?
That’s heart breaking for the poor wheel instead give to me 😢
Was the BMS ever gone into detail on any of the videos and I missed it? Very curious what kind of bms will be used with such a heavy duty battery pack we will be getting.
It depend on what is the intended use but some drop test are from 1m height on all faces, edges and vertexes.
The floor is 19mm plywood.
Nice work.
Is the board staying powered on? Why are the lights shutting off?
Read the pinned comment
It’s so bouncy!
cant wait to get one :)
That looks good. I did notice that it would shut off, or at least the LED’s would shut off. Anyway to fix that? Just wondering if someone does a 1 meter drip if it will turn off while they are riding
oh, good question. Why did it shut off?
I was going to mention the same thing. It looks like it often shut off after a drop and that's a fail.
@@maddmikemu Not very confidence inspiring in that aspect. Can't tell if it shuts off only when it flips over or what the deal was. The lightbar status bit also flashed at what looked like full brightness for a sec for seemingly no reason so not too sure what that's about ...
it only shut off in high lateral g, when the motor is not running. (power switch hit hard) in real life situation, if the motor is being powered, the board will never shut down even if the switch is being pressed, this is by design
@@brodyport6395 that was the button light flashing under high G
We Want see some trails, and street drops!
Tony, explain what with the light? it seems to turn off but i understand it u dropped it so hard!
Except for the fender, what was that other part flying off?
bumper corner
Where to buy it and what is the price?
floatwheel.com
What was that piece that flew off?
Hey,
I see you are close to shipping the adv. Is it just the adv that you will be shipping or the adv pro as well?
If it is just the adv, is there any eta on the adv pro at the moment?
I am considering purchasing a onewheel and happened to see your project and would rather support your project where you embrace open source, instead of relying on proprietary stuff. I would prefer to get an adv pro but wanted to confirm before placing an order, just in case I have to wait for a long time to get it, so that I can instead place an order for the adv.
There was somewher else the question, if ADV and ADV Pro shipping starts at the same time. Tony said: yes.
@@Eryktion Awesome. That is good to hear. Even so from looking at the website, it looks like both have a lot of the same parts including the motor. And so an 'upgrade' in the future would be just a matter of purchasing the few parts that are different, like the rails. Even the battery is the same I believe if you order adv with pro battery.
Hopefully Tony can confirm here as well.
@@anupjsebastian the only difference between adv and adv pro is that the rails and mount blocks（and batteries,but you can also choose to have the adv with pro battery）
@@floatwheel just ordered and I can’t wait!
Hey! That's my board!!!!
Bro I know this was for science but it's still hard to watch. Look out for them shins! 😅🤙
Was the board working after that abuse?
Why isnt everybody asking this same question?
@@Ramonovich_Jan maybe cause it's already anwsered in the video description 🤷♂
" I tried to drop test it on concrete surface multiple times, other than a pair of broken bumper, nothing really happens, still rides amazingly😆 battery and double decker esc are solid AF."
How long is the cannon core axle?
Sweet
Does anyone happen to know if the GT Enduro will fit on the Floatwheel?
They using standard tire diametr like xr, but there even more because it's Enduro right out the box as I understand, Tony was posting that floatwheel will pay revenue to the float life for the tire design
Any estimates on first unit shipping date?
around 4.25（first board rolling off line and packed）
@@floatwheel Thanks. That must be my board (1545)? 😄
@@siwoz sure thing🤣I remember you are the first
@@floatwheel don’t forget I’ve paid in full already. I guess a few others might have paid in full too.
@@shanelibeau9040 yup
So what flew off it?
bumper corner
When’s the shipping date? Can’t wait to ride it
Now the torque test 😁
They have a Dyno for QC
I can't wait to rip that borad on the streets to the hills. Just need crypto yo.
Should have perhaps dropped it on its side or nose more. This demonstration makes it look like the board would not survive one of thoose impacts since you seeme to make sure the tire takes the biggest impact
good call, lemme drop em again
@@floatwheel not sure if sarcasm but i like your style! Love the way this company is so open about its production and development
@@JackTheRivalPS3 since its not broken today its totally reasonable to test side drop
@@floatwheel I wanna see that video :P
@@floatwheelmaybe test outside not on concrete first ???
NOW GO TO THE ROOF!! And try!!
I wish I had waited to buy this instead of the previous version from a few years ago we had to assemble ourselves and came with wrong wires and other minor problems and the batteries suck terribly. :(
Yo, let me get a sample one. Or let me get the broken one
Can I have the test board at a discount plz
I am a broke boi. If you send me a free floatwheel adv, i will make a youtube channel dedicated to it!
I’m getting a long scam feel on this one guys, the only thing transparent may be the product. Hope I’m wrong cause I like me an underdog…
Haha, there are like a million easier ways to scam people. Why would someone do all that just to scam you 😂
feels more like you didn't have the money to pre-order one, or chose not to, and you're secretly hoping things don't work out so you can say "Phew! They almost got me."
accept that the product is real, and it's dope. save your money up bro.
I think Brian is just trolling. I can’t believe someone really thinks this is a scam at this point. It’s too ridiculous.
Something flew off
I like the power button design in the makerspev focer bundle. When it’s pressed in, it’s off, and it’s spring loaded to always be on. I think this makes a lot of sense as G force won’t accidentally turn it off. I’m sure you know this already but thought to point it out. Good design on not shutting off at speed tho!
This test is bruuuuutal!
He uses a momentary switch instead of a latching switch. Whole diffrent system.
the design you mentioned has a very significant defect, it will not have automatically turn off feature if you forget about turning it off it drains the battery and eats away the battery's life expectancy. We spent a shit ton of time to make this multifunction power button🤣🤣shit I can design a latch on button for 1 minutes, but be honest, a comsumer ready product should have more thoughts put into it.
@@floatwheel ohhh true. Yeah I know you must’ve thought of this already
@@floatwheel yah, I have seen many expensive batteries be destroyed because an idoling board drained it to low. Luckily my board only seems to drain .5v-1v a day wile idol. I’ve been lucky. I hope to implement many of the technology’s in the floatwheel into my personal board.