Gay and Christian, No Contradiction | Brandan Robertson | TEDxLSSU
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In this talk, I will weave together my journey as an LGBTQ+ Christian pastor who began within the evangelical tradition, was forced into conversion therapy, and after that failed to ‘heal’ me, I moved to reconcile my faith and sexuality. After spending a decade studying the Bible and Christian theology, I was surprised to find that the anti-LGBTQ+ interpretations of Scripture were wholly inconsistent with a historical approach to the Bible, and discovered a long tradition of queer people within the pages of the Bible and throughout Christian history. In this talk, I will share my thoughts on why homophobic interpretations of the Bible are plainly incorrect and how LGBTQ+ people can reclaim their place as rightful members of the community of faith. Rev. Brandan Robertson is a noted author, activist, and public theologian working at the intersections of spirituality and social renewal. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." Matthew 24:35
"He who sleep with itchy bum, will wake with smelly thumb." Confusius
Lev. 24:19-21 overrules literally everything else in the Bible.
@@AttmaySeriously? even John 14?
“For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.” 1 John 2:16
Loving man is loving God if God created man.
@@AttmayWe reject all shameful deeds and underhanded methods. We don’t try to trick anyone or distort the word of God. We tell the truth before God, and all who are honest know this.
That counts for straight people as well! 😅 that’s universal.
this is for Food as well!
@@Attmay how does God define love, though? Is it some nebulous feel-good love that has no difference from a cheesy dating reality show, or is it defined?
People fear if they dig in scriptures to get more knowledge, they may find truth that messes with their shallow thinking. Quoting one scripture not being able to research why it was written and in that time frame scares people. So sticking to that boxed in mentality will keep them from growing spiritually, religion only stunts your growth, walking in love will cause you to grow.
And this part of why as an Seventh Day Adventist I love our church.
This comment ❤️
I agree, building on this; although orthodox traditions are _great tools_, it's only when they are used as such, with present and past context and Gods greater wisdom in mind.
But neither should Christians become the other extreme, not gathering together in unity, as some have resorted to in the past; as this is stifling as well.
One can learn much in solitude, with only the holy spirit and your own contemplation's. But I've learnt that the greatest growth is from practical fellowship, and being encouraged by others love for our heavenly father.
Religion doesn't stunt your growth. Nobody is capable of out-growing Jesus. Unless you believe you're morally superior to Jesus, I don't see how you could claim that becoming like him has stunted your growth.
Amen
'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. This is so clear, that my 5 year old understands.
A more literal reading is almost unintelligible: "you shall not lie with a male bed woman/wife, it is against our religion". Look up the theological literature on this verse. There's huge disagreement about what it means.
Biblical literalism is a blasphemous and anti-intellectual concept that has no place in Judaism.
What about a woman with a woman? Not as bad? Why specifically say a man who lies with a woman?
@@MusicalRaichu no its pretty clear
@@PabloVelasco-hr3ko Have you looked up the theological literature? I bet you haven't.
That was the wrong direction to go in. When you have that realization, you can question the Bible, or you can question where you are in terms of salvation. One of these is seeking to know God as He presents himself, and another is searching for an excuse to talk back to Him.
Did he question the Bible or seek to understand what it says and why? Given that everything he said was correct ...
A loving God does not promote hate, people dedicate more time to spreading hate and taking the role of the pharisees than they do loving their neighbor.
"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins." 1 Peter 4:8
Preach brother preach
Calling out sin is not hate, it’s love.
not feeling the love though, just the hate@@jjericks
I admit many of us christians be speaking with hate while telling others about sins.
But there are christians that spread the gospel with love, letting you know about you sin and what the Bible says. Yet, ppl who don't want to change will take it as hate.
I'm sorry if it was your experience with a christian attacking you. And I pray that when things are said for you own interest and with love that you don't react calling it "hate". Some of us rrally fo carr and love the ppl we are talking to. And love is shown through actions and our words
Be blessed. And sorry for the essay lol
@samverey241 your not supposed to feel good about yourself youre supposed to give it up for Jesus. It turns into hate by each side fighting over what scripture clearly says. And it's as clear that woman is for man and vice versa
This quote from the Bible is all i need to know that Jesus loves me despite my homosexuality "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."
he also says "Repent." brandan robertson is not a christian
@@hondotheology You need to repent for judging people
@@studywithme7677easy cop out coming from you. If you want to risk your eternal salvation go ahead. Deep down you know it's wrong, and you can convince yourself all you like, but unrelenting homosexuals are condemned to eternal damnation. And when they die and face god, you won't be there to help them, not the media. They will have to answer for their sin. Repent before it's too late. God does indeed love you, but he calls for us to change . Not stay the same.
@@dd-ph9fv Will you not be wearing two different fibres then from now on? Which is condemned in the bible? OR eating shellfish?. Praise GOD for his ambiguities.
How can you believe if you don't abide by his own rules?
Why is this guy getting a tedtalk??
Because you can't stop the truth.
@@revbrandanrobertson
And what truth would that be since even The Bible goes against what you say?
@revbrandanrobertson This isn't truth. What you teach goes directly against the Bible and I think you know it. I pray that you will truly turn from your sin.
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." -1 Corinthians 6:9-10
@@samnewton3358 (Matthew 7.1-5)
Jesus said: Don't judge others, and God won't judge you. Don't be hard on others, and God won't be hard on you. Forgive others, and God will forgive you. May the Holy Spirit be with you and help you understand God's infinite Love.
@@revbrandanrobertsonwould be nice if you actually spoke some
God laid out the foundations of our design in Genesis, our sin blinds us to that perfect original design, and until we are "born again" we will not be able to see the kingdom of God. (John 3:4). Don't take it from me, nor this man; both of us are lost sheep, read the Gospels and see how God has revealed himself to us, and beware, do not read the good news looking for it to conform to you. Instead allow yourself to be transformed by the good news.
True, brother! Or sister! Anthing that do other thing than what the designer intented to is abomination.
Jesus loves all, but keep reading.
He loves the tax collector who took too much tax, but asked him to do so no more.
He loves the woman who took to prostitution, but asked her to do so no more.
He loves the man who took to murder, but asked him to do so no more.
Jesus does not hate the sinner.
He hated the sin.
He asked the sinner to stop sinning.
That message is missing in the talk.
Dude. I’m just terrified, honestly. I feel like an abomination and I fear because of what I am.
@@mel_justmel9569 Talk to God continually.
He speaks to you through the Word.
Keep reading the Bible, and He will speak to you. He came for sinners, not for those who feel that they are good.
@mel_9569 we've ALL sinned, and we ALL fall short.
Only in him can we find grace and forgiveness and become reborn.
@@mel_justmel9569 Bless you. We have to keep reading the Word. That is how we invite God to talk to us directly.
and the even more important part is if you show no signs of stopping, God will let you fall into your sinful ways. If you don't try to fix yourself, you won't stop.
What I’m trying to figure out is why everybody so concerned about homosexuality, and divorce is condemned in the Bible yet it’s so prevalent today and the Church says nothing about it, and it’s actually a choice rather than homosexuality which is how a person is born. Just something to think about ig
Homosexuality is only a problem for us if it's being taught that it's acceptable within our religion. According to the Bible, we are not to judge those outside of the church, but those within the church who teach falsehoods are to be driven out and expelled. People can do what they want in their own homes, but if you enter our house, you have to follow the house rules. That is very fair. You are free to leave if you disagree with the house rules. Divorce is prevalent today but it's not the place of the church to uphold its rules amongst non-Christians. Those who believe in divorce (unless it's due to adultery) are not Christians. Jesus said "Whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another commits adultery.” If you disagree with Jesus, you have removed yourself from the church.
Practically all churches counsel married couples so they remain married. Try telling the truth
And yet the church has an equally high rate of divorce as the rest of the world
In the end times things shall go from worse to worse.
looks like a lot of people still can't perceive more information from where they stand
Seriously? This guy is just grabbing at straws in order to try to make a Biblical excuse for what secular humanism condones.
That’s exactly what Liberation Theology from South America does. It’s a Marxist ideology which has infiltrated Christianity, with the purpose of destroying it. It’s a one dimensional political ideology which sees Christ as real man, not the Messiah, but more a Castro type figure. They’re known as the Christians with machine guns. They try to manipulate young gullible needy people, preying on their rejection and insecurities. As soon as you hear Liberation Theology, run.
Grasping at straws? Can you really say you have engaged with the Bible, ancient texts and archeology, and history enough to disprove what he is saying? Evangelicals who recite the Bible without thinking about it have weak faith. If you don't struggle with your beliefs, they mean nothing. This kind of evangelical Christianity, the brow beating moralism of fellow sinners, is what is driving people out of churches. Higher criticism was always necessary for strong faith.
@@calebbryan840 Romans 12:1-2 is the Christian Apostle stating that Christians are NOT to be conformed to this World culture/views, but be conformed to the image of Christ who obeyed the Law -- *and this was written at the time of the Roman Empire when hom0sexuality was accepted as normal* (Romans 1:25-28). Maybe you should give Romans 6 and 1Corinth 5 another read.
No he's not, he's trying to correct your misconceptions about what the Bible teaches.
Who I love should not be wrong. I should be able to be apart of the religion I grew up in without you “Christians” telling me I’m a walking sin and not welcome in your spaces. Doesn’t seem very Christian to me.
Rabbi Hillel in the first century BCE was the first to distinguish between ritual commandments, and moral commandments. The entire holiness code is a matter of ritual purity, not morality. Which means, if you aren't Jewish, it really has nothing to do with you at all.
What do you mean, "if you aren't Jewish, it really has nothing to do with you at all" ??? Have you read Romans 6 ?? or Romans 1:25-28 or Romans 12:1-2 ???
@@veritasmuy2407 I mean the holiness code doesn't really affect Christian ethics.
@@Magnulus76 are you saying the moral law only applies to the Jews?
I made so many connections from this, both logical and emotional. Thank you
His a false preacher don’t believe anything he says
@@mubianamutumba4183 as a catholic, agreed
@@mubianamutumba4183 it's funny to me when people start calling people "false preachers" when they dig into the meaning and theology doing the scientific research. just accept he gained the knowledge that contradicts your bias
don't be deceived....please. This man is not a follower of Christ, he is a lover of himself and the world.
@@yelocoehlo people can go to lengths to justify their sin though
Example the bible says love covers a multitude of sins
I can just as well cheat on my wife as long as I say me and my mistress love each other
I can be polygamous and say it's ok as long as we love each other
I can steal from a jewelry store because it's my wedding anniversary and money is tight but I love her
See how easy?
He cherry picks eg he believes Adam and Eve were just a story not a historic fact
“In the 1900’s, people thought 100 years later there would be happiness and rainbows. They sure got the rainbows, but not the happiness.”
-Anonymous, 2023
Taking in consideration that back in the 1900's food in the big cities were always rotting to the point were we always needed ketchup to be able to eat steak... Nah, the modern days is pure happiness.
theyd be happy if they were not persecuted and ostracized.
@@Aldarionz9 they're celebrated by governments, have an entire month, and basically a get out of jail free card, please tell me how they are persecuted and ostracised
@@ThisIsWhyYourDadLeft Look at the middle east,Muslim hate them and execute them in iran. For years in the western world,they were prevented from marrying and being treated with any compassion, and a lot happened that was mean to them. Look at 1940's germany. Read the history on what happened to them. And as for now,they have rights yet they are still under theat of being harmed physically so its from mean types of religious people who are mainly doing this.
@@ThisIsWhyYourDadLeftwell they're actually used as cash cows when they actually wanted to be treated as equals, they're given a month that serves no purpose other than to make money and they are illegal in 70-plus countries
I'm familiar with the Hebrew of Lev 18:22. For clarification, it does not contain the terms you referenced. However, I suspect you are thinking of the LATIN translation of Lev 18:22. That would likely contain those terms because LATIN is where Paul TRANSLITERATED 'ArsenoKoitai' from. This is why the word is not found in ANY GREEK LITERATURE other than Paul's writing and those who discuss Paul's writing. I reached this conclusion several years ago when somebody I knew from a seminary noted that scholars didn't know where the term came from. I hypothesized that maybe, because Paul was a LAWYER (law being an interest of mine), he needed an EXACT legal term that did not exist in the Greek. So, I checked the LATIN (the language of Rome that had conquered the world at the time Paul wrote this term), and there the roots were. I have written about this discovery and have a much stronger theological model than you could imagine about this very subject matter. Once you see what I discovered, you'll never look at translations of the Scriptures the same way again. Regarding the many contrary comments I've read below; -Those 'Christians' scoffing at your analysis are actually blaspheming in matters they don't understand & doing the very thing Peter warned that lawless men would do with Paul's writings: Destroy themselves & their listeners. Want to know more? Just smash my icon & proceed from there....
So what are you saying exactly. You agree with him?
They are both so chill
You don`t need to meet numerous pastors or dig archeological sites to find out what "The Bible actually teaches" Everything is written in simple words in the Scriptures: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination" "For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Funny how this so called “pastor did not mention Romana chapter 1 in his little sin-justifying Ted talk. I feel sorry for him, though, because he has been blinded by the god of this world, and perhaps has not had anyone show him the truth, or he just won’t listen.
*Romans chapter 1
missinterpreted
@@danielgedutis7751 Yeah, actually he has heard the truth. Pastor Jeff Durbin and Dr. James White debated with Brandan and he completely sidestepped those verses.
One who is broken and contrite before God is a person God will not turn away but one who justifies there sin before God will suffer the penalty of all sinners without saving grace.
The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
Our loving God doesn’t need rationalizations. His Word is simple and clear. I guess the only way we’ll ever know for sure is at the day of judgment. I pray for your soul.
This pastor decided for himself what was true before he went searching for it. He seeks to justify his desires, not to serve God.
Yuup. Exactly.
@@jamesyboy4330 Apart from Augustine misunderstanding the Filioque, what did they get wrong?
We are ALL sinners, the dude needs to get over it and accept Christ, like the rest of us do. There’s no point in trying to turn person against person when really you’re fighting with yourself. Although, I do think the bloke is Marxist, not Christian, just trying to destroy Christ. He’s part of the prophesy in Revelation. We’ve been expecting him. Probably has plans on being the antichrist.
I think I’ll go with this pastor’s expertise in biblical interpretation and not your simplistic explanation. His calling, job, vocation is literally serving God
@@pistoldecellis3530 no, he’s serving self.
“Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves.”
Matthew 7:15
Finally someone who says something sensible! Homofobic people in the church have done terrible harm. Families torn apart, people lose their faith, children have died.
@@MusicalRaichu leave this people , they will twist the Bible to suit their desires, but we must stay focused , for the scriptures predicted it. All these new teaching , new doctrine , are false , the church has a tradition and we must maintain , but some people thinks they are wise and twist it to suit as they want it
Who is being excluded from Christianity? Only one type of person, he who rejects the sin payment paid in full by Jesus Christ
Christianity isn’t about one particular sin aka homosexuality, no it’s about any sin is contrary to God’s holiness
As per scripture:
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”
James 2:10 KJV
Even if you manage to keep from 99.9 sins and sin even once you will be separated from God because he is Holy aka that is to say without sin
He cannot allow even one sin into heaven, just look at what one sin has done to earth, how much pain and suffering and destruction has surfaced from one single sin, this is why to accept Christ is to accept God and to reject Christ is to reject God
Either Christ paid your sin debt you’ve incurred thus your soul is sin free by his sacrifice or you will pay this sin debt by your separation from he who is Holy aka God
You decide!!!!
Agreed, as well as one who rejects the Holy spirit, to do that is to tear out what was planted.
Rejecting Judaism is a sin. Rejecting homosexuality is a war crime.
Oh wow nice timing reading this. I just watched a sermon in relation to good friday, that Adam’s sin set the course of all human in sin, that only Jesus Christ made us right in God’s eyes. That’s so comforting to be honest. Like i can say i’m a good person but because of being part of lgbt it appears I’m disqualified already cause of such
One who is broken and contrite before God is a person God will not turn away but one who justifies there sin before God will suffer the penalty of all sinners without saving grace.
The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
May Christ have mercy on his soul 😢☝️☦️
And the toothfairy, too.
@@jeanv1352does the toothfairy have a historical record ? If so, where can I access it?
@@jeanv1352You’ll scream when you face Satan.
@@Jocelyn_Herrick Oh, I'll just give him a BJ, then I'm sure we'll get along fine.
@@Jocelyn_Herrick You'll scream when you realize this is not how god wanted you to treat sinners. God told us to love sinners not their sin. So by doing that we help them. We love on them and try our best not to harm them. This is not being honest. This is not being helpful. This is not seeing the person as more than their sin. You said they'll scream when they meet Satan. is that of god? Would he say that? Didn't think so.
“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.”
Hebrews 13:8 ESV
The Bible doesn’t evolve (devolve really) to conform to our sin and desires.
But the Bible did evolve and was redacted and edited many times between the various stages of being written and the Bible that we have today. The Bible is purely human and has no divine spark whatsoever.
(Insert not being able to find OG bible, countless edits and translations later) "Eh, Probably the same Jesus as the OG Bibles."
If that was true, there would be nothing after the old testament. As far as Judaism is concerned, there isn’t.
@@not_a_demonBible translations haven’t been added on to / changed.
@@UnitedStatesOilForce Use google translate on the same phrase multiple times, words do indeed change.
Mercy is right. No, there's not any homosexuality. But there's no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. But God only knows or is the only One Wisdom comes from. Just forget about it. Listen to you.
All you need to hear is the voice of God. Cause you clearly arent hearing Him.
... In the old testament he's wrong In Hebrew man was zekar....male....... A male shall not lie with a male as female..... He's a false teacher He's got everything mixed up
Do an academic literature search and you'll see there's a dozen different opinions. No one knows for sure what it meant. Given that everything he said is correct, I wouldn't accuse him of being a false teacher, I'd question the motives behind your accusation.
@@MusicalRaichu the instruction is clear in Gen 1:26-27, to mutiply, hence male&female. So if one verse stump you, the other will make clearance. Jesus confirm in Matthew 19:4-6. One man, one woman. Adding it with Leviticus and what Paul said in NT and it all fit together. Anything that turn its way on its own and do not follow the real intention from the Creator is wrong.
Even at Revelation, symbol for the marriage of the lamb is between groom and bride. The bible is consistent throughout.
The loops you need to try and go through to justify your sin is crazy. To live in your sin and not repent is your prerogative, but to take the position of a pastor and spread these lies is outrageous.
Is this considered blasphemy against the holy spirit? That is the unforgivable sin that'll get one reprobated
1 Tim 1:6-7 For some, straying from these things, have turned aside to fruitless discussion, wanting to be teachers of the Law, even though they do not understand either what they are saying or the matters about which they make confident assertions.
This guy is a dangerous false teacher spreading a false gospel.
*Leviticus 18:22:* "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
Did you watch the video? He was talking about the meaning of that verse
@@hdhlhg The meaning of that verse is as it is shown on the page and how it has been taught by Jewish rabbis for thousands of years. He has created a new meaning based on his personal desires.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Yep, and God fulfilled that blessing to the point where there's now 8 billion of us. A few individuals failing to reproduce for any of several reasons doesn't nullify God saying "it's not good to be alone".
“Be fruitful and multiply.”
You made the case against everything but homosexuality with that quote.
What is eternal life according to Jesus?
What is God’s truth according to Jesus?
Have you read Romans 12:1-2 -- written during the Roman Empires total acceptance of h0mosexual!ty....
@@TicketToRide-dj4vk Roman culture was hostile to two men of equal social status in a loving relationship.
I am thankful to my Lord and Savior that I know the truth that Brandon Robertson is not a representative of that truth.
Plagiarism of my apologetics on the Biblical verses for his "Progressive Christian" agenda. As a believer, I can't take him to court.
He preaches in his videos that Jesus was a sinner.
If he wasn’t, they wouldn’t have crucified him. Based on the bigotry of his followers, I am starting to think he was actually guilty of theft, that Barabbas was wrongly accused all along, and that Judas was a hero for turning in a dangerous criminal. He should’ve gotten 60 pieces of silver and a seat in the Roman senate. The only reason he didn’t is because he’s Jewish.
The bible says its wrong. Books were made for us to turn away from our sin.
He’s been given over to the reprobated mind. God has taken his hand off him so he believes his own thoughts. Imagine thinking that you was the one to figure out the Bible didn’t say this is wrong🤣out of all the scholars beforehand lol the arrogance is crazy lol
Thank you for an enlightening talk!
Nothing but deception. Jesus does love us but he wants the best for our souls after death. If we love him wel keep his commandments
It’s fornication. Don’t change words to live in sin comfortably. God created man and woman for a reason. Don’t speak lies.
God said it's not good for the human being to be alone so God divided him into a man and a woman. The man's recognition of the woman as one like him and thus as suitable is the explicitly stated reason for marriage. Think it through. If a man is only capable of recognizing a man, for precisely the same reason, he should marry a man.
"Fornication" referred primarily to men using female prostitoots. Same-secs behaviour was not in scope, although I would hazard to say that the same ethic applies.
I always thought about this, they condemn formication but they seem to think that their lustful desires our an exception.
😮😮
Right. Unwillingness to repent is not Christian. You can't call yourself Christian and do whatever you want.
He embraces sin because it's much easier than fighting it. But even worse he endorses sin, because he's that weak he needs the others who struggle to join him.
Okay. So, he’s saying ancient Jewish people and Judaism have always been okay with and legally permitted homosexuality. Wow! This theory is going to eventually fall flat.
denying blatant facts... at least you people are consistent
I think Jews know their history better than anyone. Just saying.
That's not what he said at all. The opposite, actually.
He ignores history and so much else.
One who is broken and contrite before God is a person God will not turn away but one who justifies there sin before God will suffer the penalty of all sinners without saving grace.
The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
Amen. 💜 I can really feel the Holy Spirit speaking through this man. My heart feels full of love. Thank you.
He is a false preacher don’t believe a word he says
That's not the holy spirit.
😂
Me too. I thank God for this pastor!
I agree. If I am to follow the word of god, I will follow the actual word as best as it can be interpreted from the original language, not a biased translation filtered through centuries of hate and bigotry.
And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. (Matthew 24:11)
ok false prophet. shut up and stop being a bigot
They are all here in this comment section projecting their sins onto God‘s most fabulous people.
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" 2 Timothy 4:3 (KJV)
“Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.”
Matthew 16:24-25 NIV
Is that a quote from the bible? Sounds boring...
@@jeanv1352 I guarantee people find Jesus far more fascinating than you or I will ever be.
@@jaypnolan What makes you think I want to compete with Jesus about who's the most fascinating? But if you want to talk about fascination, I find Mozart a lot more fascinating than Jesus.
@@jeanv1352 that’s nice, I just pointed out that what you claim is boring is clearly far from it and will continue to outlive both of us.
@@jeanv1352 Actually, living in holiness is much more demanding than not living a holy life before God. That doesn't mean that it can't be fun to live holy, it's just that holiness isn't all about fun.
Exactly what paul warned of wolves leading people astray to ther lusts
Wolf. Robertson
the wolf is leading you to believe anything other than salvation through faith alone.
Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
Big bad wolf
Big bad wolf
Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
Focus is on Self. Not God. Failure to read/ scripture ( hint- sodom and gommorh).
REASON- People are created in the image of God. God is Spirit. satan will destroy the image.
Garden of eden- Adam and Eve. God called His creation good.
Peace
So Christian like of all of you in the comments. Talking about homosexuality when he gave you the information of how homosexuality was not in the Bible until the 1940’s. The man has traveled half way around the world to talk with bible scholars and other pastors to bring you the information you are hearing yet you judge. I’d give you a bible passage but since y’all know it so well I’ll leave you off here.
Christians are told to publicly call out false teachers who twist the Scriptures. There's nothing un-Christian about recognizing when someone is a false teacher and calling them out.
That's obvious he is lying, and his arguments are not valids.
Even Satan knows the Bible front to back. The Lord will judge those harshly that try to twist and try to corrupt his word.
He knows this he just doesn't care. Thankfully, many are not deceived by him.
You can find other bible scholars that come to the exact opposite conclusion
His "argument" is nothing more than word games.
Live and let live. Simple. Why are the religious ones spreading hate😅. Praying for you all to find peace.
This is the reaction to a lying spirit
Lying spirits are the ones who preach hatred of God‘s most fabulous people.
Jesus said in John "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."
The world does gave you 'peace' but not the real one. Jesus even say He came to bring sword to make divisions. The religious ones have to make seperation bcos light and darkness cannot be together.
These “Christians” in the comments have no mercy.
Mark and avoid false teachers.... No mercy indeed.
True Christians in these comments are rejecting this young mans false teachings. He picks and chooses as he wishes from the word of God. He wont pray and ask for true guidance from Jesus himself and I feel sorry for him.
He's a false teacher.
Therefore…….. He deserves no mercy? Is that what you three are saying?
@@kallelellacevej2234 false teacher who brings out false teaching, needs to called off of his false teaching. Mercy comes for those who willing to turn his way around.
Jesus wasnt writing books he was speaking it and someone later wrote it in their interpretation instead of jesus himself they didn't have printing presses back in ancient desert time
This guys is stoking the flames of his own destruction.
You could just practice what the Bible says or you can try to find silly reasons to ignore it. THIS is an example of the latter.
No, he's on the right track. The Bible says "it is not good to be alone", "love your neighbour fulfils ALL God's commands", "do not call unclean what I have called clean".
Beware false prophets for they will lead the sheep astray. The bible does say that a man shall not lie with another man as he would a woman ... and to do so is an abomination.
That's not what the Bible "says". It reads "you shall not lie with a male a womanly bed, it is against [ancient Israelite] religion". Of course the apostolic consensus (Acts 15, Galatians, etc.) was that ancient Israelite rules don't apply anymore, so it's irrelevant, isn't it?
Obviously. Homosexuality is an abomination.
@@BorisVixenonly gays enter the kingdom of heaven
As a Christian, I literally cannot even fathom how this man even got this answer. I think it’s pretty clear in Leviticus that a man should not sleep with another man and a woman shouldn’t sleep with another woman. In 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 it talks about those who won’t inherit the Kingdom of God and it literally says those who practice homosexuality will not inherit the Kingdom of God. I guess he just missed this or smth. He is speaking blasphemy. May the real Jesus show this man who He really is.
I'd encourage you to do some more research- there are a great deal of books out there that can help you properly understand these verses!
eli, did you watch the video? Brandan addresses Leviticus
I think he addresses your point pretty directly. While you may disagree, he clearly addresses your point, if you listen. Part of loving one another is listening to one another.
@@revbrandanrobertsonI only need one book
@@veler6049idiot
absolute nonsense
This is ANTI-CHRISTIAN. Rather than teaching as Christ who came to save us FROM our sins. This guy is preaching that Christ will save us IN our sins. It's not just false. It's satanic.
Imagine being part of a religion that hates you🤣
why do you assume that because someone condemns a sin and a sinful lifestyle, that they somehow "hate" the individual? If someone truly hated that individual, they wouldn't want the best for him but would want him to be condemned. If I hated someone and wanted them to be condemned, I would say stuff like, "Keep living your authentic self." Or, "God loves you, just the way you are so don't change.
Brandan is wicked, and is to be judged and disfellowshipped so he may learn not to blaspheme - 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 / 1 Timothy 1:20
We are supposed to call out so-called "brothers" in Christ in the open in their sin, so that people continue in the fear of the Lord - 1 Timothy 5:20
He is leading others in his wickedness and will be destroyed by Christ - Revelations 2:18-29
Your versions of "love one another" is incorrect, wicked, and worldly. You keep His commandments (plural), in addition to His new commandment to love one another, and that is how you are known by Him. Brandan must repent or perish (Luke 13:5). I pray that he does.
Goovezeverybody,but the lifestyle of homosexuality being in the nature of being continuous, if continued is sgains The Bibme and it s Vhristian Teachings,but gays are wrlcome in chirches to repent same as every ofy else of individual sins expecting to.repent of ,and avoid.
i hate how you people still think conversion therapy is a fair thing to ask from people
And there shall be false prophets...
And antichrists, but I don’t think this man will have that many followers.
@@marinka424 2 Timothy 4:3 -- people claiming to be Christians DESIRE false teaching so that they can remain conformed to this World -- Romans 12:1-2
God Bless you.
What, I didn’t sneeze.
he is trying to excuse his sin
Your off your head
Blasphemy
Including the T = homophobia.
False, dude. The scriptures say it specifically multiple times.
Screw the scriptures. They're outdated and BORING!
Yes.
at least pretend to watch the video.... you christians are so funny because you throw out arguments and then when ur faced with factual information all you can say is "uhhhh.... false!". the answer is slapping you in the face and you still cant see it
@@thomasg3387. Matthew 5:39, Romans 1:18-28, 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, Daniel 9:9. Remember this truth: God loves all of His creation and offers forgiveness to those who repent and turn to Him :)
That is a distortion by the oppressor classes. Lev. 24:19-21 overrides everything else.
How can he take something that is very clear and straightforward and twist it to his liking? Wonder how he interprets Romans 1.. if hes really paying attention he will see he is a clear example of Romans 1:21 "becoming vain in his own imagination"...
Or how he interprets Romans 12:1-2......
Just read and understand the bible please...
A lovely message Brandon, and so clearly delivered. Ignore the hate messages on this channel and keep going forward, your message of God's inclusive love needs to get out.
God is not just a God of love. God is also a God of wrath. The bible isn't a salad bar where you get to pick and choose whatever makes you feel good about yourself. If you make it a salad bar, you will delude yourself, and the consequences are grave.
@@Kissypooh That's your view of your God, and best of luck to you. I don't want anything to do with such a God.
@@denzilbelgium Wow, you are unconcerned with the true and actual nature of God, and you are unconcerned with the consequences of your rejection of the true and living God. Did you create the universe? Do you undergird and rule the universe? Did you send your Son to save repentant sinners? No, you didn't. Not on any count. You're just a generic ant among billions of ants who think you are smarter and better than the source of all life and all existence. I would offer you luck, but it won't help you, so I won't. "My view of my God" is 100% irrelevant to the objective truth of the universe. God's view of God, the actual truth of the universe, well, it might matter slightly more than your view or my view. Slightly. Gag me with a spoon.
nope. homosexuality and christianity are diametrically opposed to one another. there are NO homosexuals in heaven.
It's the opposite. Only gays enter the kingdom of heaven.
@@heinmolenaar6750 proof? scripture?
I hope you're not straight, otherwise your destiny is the lake of fire.@@markshard
Bless you Brandon. And remember, Jesus was not a Christian. We need not be Christian to fully love and follow Jesus! 🙏🏽💜
The early church began to identify as Christians because it was just about the only thing some of them had in common as God began to call people from all nations and groups. The word “Christian” is a sweet term and reminder of our commitment to follow Christ and not the world. In a sense you do “have to be” a Christian in that you must be a follower of Jesus.
I dont know, Christ was not Christian? People will argue soon water is wet and sky is blue
Where in this universe did that come from. Jesus is the center of Christianity and him to follow only. Sounds like you're a follower of brandon instead to make that statement. Everything brandon teaches are lies. He's admitted he's not a Christian which is a follower of Christ and that his beliefs are based around Christian beliefs. That right there is a alarm going off. The main people who agree with him are those who want to go against Gods creative order and still be accepted by him. A homosexuals behavior goes completely against what God ordained and there's no other way. I never here brandon use the bible to prove his theology he uses his opinions, preferences etc but no Gods word. So if it's not the God of the bible it's a false god
I’m queer and want to be a pastor!! Thank you for sharing
You can toss away levitical law, sure. But you can't escape Paul's teaching on the subject of pastoralship.
1 Timothy 3:2-3 Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
Husband of one wife one of the critical condition of what qualifies one for oversight of a body of believers.
You won't be a pastor of Christianity and neither is this apostate
This man is deceiving you. Homosexuality is a sin. Just as lying is a sin and taking the lords name in vain. Sin is sin and not one is worse then the other in God's eyes..he loves the sinner but hates the sin. So please repent.
Go for it.
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." -1 Corinthians 6:9-10
There is no room for interpretation there. The message is pretty clear. You need to repent and ask Jesus to change you. Simply believing that he died on the cross means nothing. Even Satan himself believes that, and we know where he's going. You must repent, which means constantly turning from all sin. Please know I am telling you this out of love, not hate.
You can say whatever you want about Brandan. I think he has the right to do and say as he wishes.
With that being said. He will reap what he sows. And he is bending truth and the word of God to propagate his twisted version of Jesus and God to fit his needs and ideas. At the same time fulfilling the prophecies of the end times. The false teachers that will come to deceive many. There is one of them. Beware of this man.
Exactly! God bless you!❤
Do you stone nonvirgins and eat shrimp?
Or do you pick and choose what parts of the bible should apply to u
where was the truth bent... people like you say so much without citing any actual damn evidence and its so sad to watch... your arguments are so poorly constructed and it is LITERALLY slapping you right in the face but your arrogance blocks you from seeing the error of your ways
yet you don't care to be in his shoes. So you sin instead.
@@thomasg3387his 'truth' is not slapping us bcos its not the truth. And yes he's going to reap what he sow.
This man is a false teacher please beware.
The Marxist spiel, the changing of history to suit the conclusion, the straw man “ all Christian’s HATE gays”. Sounds like an unchristian Marxist war cry to me. Unless he is so dense he thinks his own little backwater somewhere in USA represents the whole wide world, and all Christians. He possibly likes the idea of the gulags, or maybe he would prefer an alternative religion to replace Christianity. If either of his dreams come true, he will possible realise ALL Christian’s are not full of hate after all, but it will be too late for him then.
Please beware of false teachers saying other teachers are false teachers.
@user-hm5bp7oz9i vrabdon Robertson is a false teacher, but why do you think he isn't one?
@@birdie-u7h The bible says we are supposed to call out the wolves among the sheep.
@@christophermaalouf1702 He says you can be worldly and christian
Against love there is no such law, as a fruit of the Spirit. 🤍
This is blasphemy and he knows it.
No such a thing as blasphemy, only superstition.
not at all. Brandan's thoughts support a more accurate interpretation of scripture than most. and hes helping correct something that many evangelical christians have gotten very wrong.
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." -1 Corinthians 6:9-10
It's pretty clear that homosexuality is a sin. I pray that you will truly turn from your sin.
@@samnewton3358you just contradicted yourself by using a passage that has clearly been rewritten to include homosexuality. Which if you paid attention he clearly stated it didn’t show up in the Bible until the 1940’s
@@paulwakefield1015 TRUTH! Evangelicals need to rethink their idolatrous worship of conservatism and start worshipping Him!
Prediction: This man with “leave Christianity” within the next ten years.
He will not. He will remain. Because he will deceive many.
@@user-jx3ww5si4w yeah but hes still not christian hence the quotemarks
I sure hope that for him.
Like any money grubbing televangelist, this false teacher likely finds his grift too personally gratifying to give it up.
@@bigol9223 So kind you are! You really sound like a true Christian: full of hate.
Please Repent
God loves you to much and you know it
Nell Carter is the real mashiach.
If your sentence begins with "God hates-", then you are not a Christian for noble reasons.
Are we supposed to say God loves sin? God HATES sin! He made that very clear in His Word. He hates pride, He hates arrogance, He hates all sin period!
@deidremsibi571 You're the unnoble Christian I was referring to, dear. 🙄
@@yourclairygodmother if speaking the truth makes me unnoble…well…then unnoble I am ☺️. Get to know God for who He truly is…read His word then you will soon come to understand that there’s quite a few things He Hates! Never forget yes He is the all loving God, but He also says He is an all consuming fire, a God full of wrath. Stop trying to create Him in your image and accept Him for who He is
@@deidremsibi571 Those who boast of the truth are often the biggest liars. I'm sorry hatred as gained its grip on your fragile heart. I hope you find Jesus one day and let love return. If you can't accept me for who I am, then you are refusing to accept the way God made me. How can we call ourselves Christians if we exclude others?
@@yourclairygodmother show me where I ever excluded you? What you’re saying doesn’t even make sense, I never once said you cannot enter the Kingdom, I said sin cannot enter the Kingdom which you should know because that’s the whole point why Jesus had to die, if sin can enter Heaven that means Jesus died for nothing. If you believe in a God that will allow sin into Heaven that is your right, you can believe in whatever you want, I respect your free will and so does Jesus
Bible cant change to please people, they must change to please the Bible (God's words and firstly God)
God didn't write the bible. Some guys wrote it 2000 years ago. It's totally outdated.
do you stone nonvirgins and not eat shrimp?
How many times have you tried to change yourself to live according to the Bible and failed? Jesus said it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter into Heaven. His disciples asked, "Who then can be saved?" Jesus replied, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." You need Jesus living in you to change you from within, so that you can have the desire to live according to God's unchanging Word.
So you change yoursels to live according to the bible? you believe every single thing said in the bible is correct?@@VicGeorge2K6
The Bible is literature in which one can learn of unconditional love, tolerance, forgiveness, and living your best life. It was written by man in the context of its time. I do not think it should be cherry-picked for verses for the purpose of weaponizing the language to exclude this or that group. The call to followers was based on the ability to welcome all and lead others to the path of forgiveness, love, community, acceptance, selflessness, and honesty. We would be dishonest to focus only on homosexuality or a few other sins when there is inherently nothing sinful about it . Quite honestly, it’s sad to see Christians focusing on certain things when far greater injustices exist. You will do a disservice to your creator for turning others away from this path.
No way actual Christian people are believing him lol?
According to a couple of surveys around a decade ago, one in the USA and one in Australia, half of Christians agree with him. It's not "lol", it's people seeing the harm Christian teaching does and rightly reject it. "Love your neighbour." "Wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God", so it's no joke.
The closer you get to the truth the more people will hate you. God bless you. You are a brave man ❤
Stop lying to yourself
You are deceived
Brandon Robertson you should Read Leviticus 18:22 it plainly says thou shall not lay with mankind as with womankind it's an abomination to the Lord.
he could also read all of romans 1. that chapter just flatout says, 'no unatural lustful relations'.
He just explained it to you. Didn't you bother to listen? Sheesh. We don't follow ancient Israelite religion anyway.
And Rom 1 basically says "male idolaters did unseemly things with each other" and doesn't even describe homoxesuality. Kind of irrelevant too.
@@MusicalRaichuAll of his interpretation is wrong. This moral law that was given to israel then is still very much the same for us now. Leviticus, Romans 1, 1 Cor 6, Gen 1:26-27, Gen 19, Mathew 19:4-5 are all completed each other. Even to the word homosxls how and why it was used is clear. This man's teaching is hamartia.
TED will just let anybody come speak? Like this dude and the mom of one of the Columbine shooters.
I can’t even… 😂
How does HE compare to her?
@@mel_justmel9569 He’s far worse. She was in denial, this guy knows exactly what he’s doing.
"Many will follow their depraved conduct and bring the way of truth into disrepute"(2 Peter 2:2)
2 Timothy 4:2-3 (KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
Ted just lets anyone talk huh
One sinful man can not deliver another sinful man not possible first become pure.
Oppressor classes who continue to project their sin on protected classes won’t be around to project it much longer.
Our film's production team loves Brandan!
Well done for having courage to say this. Religion has been so destructive in the world because of exclusion
There isn't exclusion. There is sin. Homosexuality is a sin and the bible is clear. It doesn't take a theologian to see that. If a man lies with a man as a women, it is a sin.
Have you ever heard it is about relationship with Jesus God and not religion? Or not only religion. do not take the easy way out.
Humans have been more destructive by excluding God and worshipping themselves and their word.
Religion is not destructive. You are lying. Exclusion of behavior that leads to sin or is sin is the definition of love
@@UNIRockLIVE history would disagree with you
So what we have here is someone trying to change the meaning of what has been said to justify practicing homosexuality.
No, others changed the meaning of what has been said to justify condeming homxoesuality. He's correcting the error.
Obviously when someone has a bias, their thinking is corrupted. Justifying sin is probably just as bad as blasphemy against God.
@@MusicalRaichu You know that isn't true. You can't think that by trying to confuse the correct meaning of scripture and the Gospel of Christ, that somehow when we're all judged by God, that He'll let you off on a technicality? None of us can be saved in ignorance. You can't claim you didn't understand or simply didn't know (if you really do, and I suspect you do).
Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
Romans 1:26-27: "For their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones, and the men likewise abandoned the natural function of their bodies for the sake of unnatural relations with one another. They burned with lust for one another, men with men committing shameful acts and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Brandan is lying. Leviticus 20:13
"You who want to be justified by the law have cut yourself from Christ; you have fallen away from grace."(Gal 5.4)
@@nfpbadmin5944Sadly, you are deceived.
@@TrustJesus333 I see you're another who mistakes his own sect's interpretation of texts for the voice of God. Sadly, you are deceived.
@@nfpbadmin5944 I do not belong to any sect. God has taught me The Truth.
I will forever stand with Him, and share His Truth every chance I get.
I am truly sorry that you are so deceived, you are not alone.
You have to really want Him and His Truth, Jesus was very
clear when He said “few”.
@@nfpbadmin5944 I see you're another who mistakes his own sect's interpretation of texts for the voice of God. Sadly, you are deceived.
God bless anyone seeing this. Seek Jesus he will forgive you.
Thou shalt have NO GODS BEFORE *ME.*
@@Attmay Facts!
This is one of the most selfish people I've ever seen. That he would attempt to twist the meaning of scripture in order to validate his own same gender attraction, and to get you to validate him as well, has got to be one of the most selfish things I've ever seen. Hey, if the Bible doesn't agree with your natural self, just change the Bible. Someone with same gender attraction, can still choose to be chaste (as the Bible teaches).
After you man, if you choose to be chaste with women, I'll choose be chaste with men. Your hypocrisy is wild.
But you aren’t addressing any of his claims.
Sin is a sin. Homosexuality is a Sin
Bible doesn’t say that.
No, it's hot!
at least pretend to watch the video.... you clearly have no interest in following factual information so why are you even commenting on the video LMAO
@@thomasg3387 i did watch the video. The presenter is clearly delusional.
@@jeanv1352 Mr Clever man, what does the bible say?
God is against Homosexuality! its a sinful living. You can know u struggle with it but it doesn’t mean you have to act on it. we all struggle with sin but we don’t have to give in to temptation of sinful living.
Lev. 24:19-21
This is a liar or a confused person
Wolf in sheeps clothing
Not even 7 thousand views lol
How do views matter?