Thank you so much, by far the best and most detailed and no nonsense review for this bike - and one that gets behind the normal blah that many CZcamsrs produce with their usual headline comments and no behind the tag line detail. This is a must watch for potential buyers- thank you so much for the work that has clearly gone into this 👍
I have a 2021 1000sx as well. I’ve put about 3,000 miles on it so far and I totally agree with you about it being nimble for its weight! Well said 👍🏻 I’ve done quite a bit of night riding and the headlights work great in my opinion. My only wish with the lights is cornering headlights! Your overall review of this machine is absolutely spot on! I also moved onto this bike from a ninja 650, I’m a taller rider at 6’4” this windscreen is hellacious for taller riders and upgrading it is a must! Excellent review and analysis 👌🏼
Thank you!! Sounds like you’ve had a great experience so far. I think it’s an appropriate jump from the 650. The 650 teaches lessons on torque management and plants the seed for more upright sport tourers. Glad you enjoyed it!
6,000 now 😎 I need some new tires what are your thoughts on the battalax tires it comes with do you think there is an upgrade to be had in that department? I may just get another set of those.
@@parkeremrich7445 I’m fond of the battlax’s seeing as they were also on the 650. People talk loads about the Michelin’s but I think the Bats are fine for this bike on the road. I can speak to their longevity from the previous bike. Track day, Michelin’s I’m sure will be more beneficial.
Excellent review, I just nearly totalled my cbr1000rr and am giving to my son who says it is his dream bike, just needs plastics, I'm going with 1000sx and found your review helpful, thank you!
Best review of this bike I've seen so far, and I've watched a lot of videos. Thanks for being so in-depth and granular. My only observation on this bike is that EVERY review says things like 'it's a great tourer, it has excellent fuel consumption, its fast ENOUGH, its powerful ENOUGH, the cruise control is great', etc etc etc. But not one review says, plainly, this bike swept me off my feet. Watch one review of the ZX10R, or the 636. And the first words are "wow". I've never heard the same reaction about this bike. And that speaks volumes to me. I'm currently torn between getting this, and getting a 636. I want the thrill, the deathly-sounding engine mid-range. I had a 636 for a few months and every time I put my leg over it I smiled. I can't imagine this bike will do the same. I guess I'll have to test ride it!
Hi there. Good review. Perhaps a little bit shaky.. mounting the camera on a gimbal could improve it a little bit. The lean angle is detected by the 6 axis IMU. Throttle, ABS, TCR are controlled / connected to the IMU. I have the 2020 model in green and I love this bike. Greetings from Switzerland
Generally a nice and thorough review of the bike (but the camera work could have been steadier). I have owned this bike now for a little over a year and done around 16.000 km (10.000 miles) on it. I ride it in crazy traffic (Paris), I have done long distance touring (3 weeks at a time), I have ridden it a top speed on the German autobahn (253 km/h or 158 miles/h on GPS; it shows around 265 km/h on the speedometer) and I spent two days on track (and found it was not for me). I generally agree with your review, and you'll have so much fun with the bike once it's had its first service and you push it past 6500 revs which is when it really comes alive. The thing that frustrates me the most about the bike are the heated grips, but I don't think you have those. People often complain about the lack of a centre stand. I have a short video on that - including the solution, if you want to check it out. With regards the "grabby" brake feel you talk about; try to stiffen the front suspension a bit. I found it far too soft for my taste, with too much diving overall. Mind you, the bike is set up for a 65 kg Japanese test rider (so my Kawa dealer told me) so if you are much heavier than that or carry some extra weight its going to change things. USB port; I got my installed at no cost when I bought the bike and paid Euro 31.50 for the (double) unit. (Maybe I have a good dealer). Panniers; I bought the "tourer" version so they came with the bike, but I think it's a fair price to pay for excellent boxes, which are not only very functional, sturdy and easy to use, but which actually don't subtract from the look of the bike like most other panniers do - and maybe even makes it better looking(?). Good luck on getting them second hand, I wouldn't hold my breath for it though.
Fantastic advice! I think I will stiffen front after all. I’m at 1200 miles now and have gone to red line several times. It’s fine, but because it accelerate so fast I don’t find it very useful since you’re easily in triple digit territory within a very very short amount of time. Here in the states, there’s only so many places you can do that and I didn’t really buy it for speed but as you said it really does come alive. Sorry about the shaky camera, I was experimenting with different modes for the video and I think I will do more of a fisheye next time and be maybe a little more still.
People complaining about having to muscle the bike in the corners are probably referring to an older model of the Ninja, pre 2020, which was indeed not very nimble. The difference is in the geometry and the tires.
Good review, very comprehensive! I agree with all your points. I don't yet own this bike, but I demo'd it at the IMS show recently and instantly fell in love! You said it... SMOOTHNESS!! That inline 4 is so damn smooth! I agree the quickshifter on the downshifts takes some getting used to. I found that slip shifting on the downshift provided smoother more consistent results, but throttling off when quick shifting down wasn't such a big deal. Like you said, I'm nit picking. Conversely, on my Panigale I can bang the gears down at any time and the bike just responds, but I guess that's the diff between sport and sport touring? Eh, nit picky. I'm looking forward to seeing if Kawi offers any new colors and/or standard features for the 2022 model year. I'm really considering buying this bike for next season. Looking forward to your future content. Sub'd.
Wow - I have really enjoyed your review and the way you have gone to the depths of comparing practicality vs good on paper. You are almost saying its not Ducati but its good at what it does and does it well. Thank you
Very very very good review. Thank you sir for taking the time to make this video. I also think its wild that you wore your helmet in 90 degree weather for this entire 40 minute video when you could of taken it off hahaha, just messing around. But seriously if your only big complaint is the quick shifter down shifting the way you talked about, this bike is a HUGE win. Wouldn't the bike know where the apex is based on lean angle and throttle?
When I bought the bike, I agree that the panniers seemed expensive, however, once I used them and got to appreciate the design and ease of use including the one-key system, for me, they were worth every penny. Good review otherwise and thanks for sharing it.
Very detailed and personal review. I bought a low-mileage 2020 performance tourer and coming from a BMW R1250GS I’m very much enjoying this bike. I reckoned that comfort wise I would to trade in a lot but for the time being I find the Ninja very capable even for touring. I’m exactly the same height as you. I didn’t like the seat at all, not so much the stiffness as the fact that it had some sharp edges that after a while would be felt painfully in the inner side of my thighs. I swapped it for a “comfort seat” and although a costly upgrade it has relieved that problem. I subscribe everything you point out although coming from a BMW boxer, I actually find the quickshifter precise, smooth and reliable. My biggest gripe with the bike are the mirrors. I find them really poor and find myself looking way more often over my shoulder as I don’t trust what they are reflecting (most of the time my hand or shoulders). As for the Rideology app, BMW is in another league for that. I’ve tried it but haven’t really bothered. I prefer pairing my intercom and my phone to my Zumo satnav which more ore less records the same parameters, allows for music to be played (I prefer listening to the engine, though) and receiving phone calls. Ride safely
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for providing feedback. I have a mod list for the bike this spring and I’ve been trying to keep my eyes away from the BMW 1250 RS as a possible replacement. Going to do a video soon on the upgrades soon, thinking they’ll address every issue the 1Ksx has.
@@twowheelsdown1783 Have you tried the RS? I haven’t ridden it personally but I have a BMW R1250GS and the engine is the same. I have spoken with people who have ridden both the RS and the GS and they all concede that the GS is the more nimble one of the two (probably the geometry or the front with Telelever suspension which the RS doesn’t have). I only ask because the one thing that convinced me of the Ninja after testing it was its engine (and gearbox) compared to the GS. The boxer engine has a lot of torque which is nice, specially in the twisties, but the Kawasaki mill is much more refined, it has less vibrations, it’s smoother and you can accelerate in 6th gear from 50 km which makes for a very relaxing riding if you want to. If you try to do that with the boxer engine, the whole bike will rattle and shake. As far as electronic aids, informatic package and other goodies is concerned, BMW is more advanced but you’ll pay for it. Let me know if you try the RS what you think of it
@@carlosalonso9866 interesting I haven’t tried the RS yet (literally no one around here has them) but it’s on the list. I really want to compare riding positions as well as torque curve. I did find out the RS has a whopping 5 inches on the Kawi’s wheelbase though. Took an updated video today with the bike started for the first time in 5 months, will post soon.
@@twowheelsdown1783 Consensus seems to be that in the Sport-Touring class, the Ninja is more biased towards “sport” whereas the RS towards “touring”. I’ve seen some comparisons from an Austrian and an Italian motorcycle magazine and the verdict is: the RS is more comfortable if you need a tool for long highway stitches, it can carry more luggage, it’s way better for two-up riding and has the more modern electronic package (specially the ESA electronic suspension which I know from my GS and is really convenient, mind you that with BMW you pay for nearly every extra, so a fully equipped RS might cost close to double the price of the Ninja). The Ninja was considered more involving and nimble. As far as ergonomics is concerned, the RS is designed with an average German rider in mind, so the handlebar is wider and further away from the rider than is the case on the Ninja. Judging from my experience with BMW, a rider of our height will feel a bit stretched, you can overcome it with risers that have an offsetting angle to the rear (I did that on my GS), just that you know. Looking forward to your post
Super in depth review.......thanks for that.....for some reason (maybe because the platform is so new) reviews on this are small in number and not of the best quality. So that's a long winded way of saying I appreciate your review man.....cheers ....two wheels down
I'm interested in this bike ever since I saw one at my local dealership........I thought it was a 400 at first glance until I got closer and saw the 1000sx badge......say on it and feel like with the ergos I could ride it all day with no wrist or back pain and still have some punch.........the specs on this thing says it runs high 10's in the quarter.........seems like the perfect daily rider.......the swiss army knife I've been looking for........my first target was the fz1 but I hate the half faired look........you can remove all that but why when there's so many nice naked options out there ........then I found this
Last coment and I'm done.......talking about the flickability of it.....I've heard the same comments on it but I think they're confusing the z1000 and this being that the sx evolved from that platform......one of the knocks on the z was it's cumbersome in corners
Thank you for the compliments! Sorry it took so long to reply, youtube didn’t notify me and I just came across this on accident. Only issue with very long riding is biker’s butt. Seat definitely needs more foam otherwise it’s perfect. Previous 1000sx before the redesign in 2020 didn’t turn as well from what I’m told. Can throw this around easily and it’s very forgiving as long as you’re respectful of the machine. Glad this helped you. Will try to get more content up here when the weather gets warmer again.
I just bought a 2024 and I am totally going crazy with anticipation I get the bike in 3 weeks I am coming off a 2008 yamaha fjr1300 I have had this bike since 08 and I am telling it takes real muscle to ride the fjr and the bike is really heavy that is main reason I am getting rid of it I am now 58 yrs old so I had been riding it for 16 yrs lol and this bike has no aides only ABS that's it and it takes muscle just to twist the throttle lol after having own several newer bikes I was amazed how much muscle it actually took to ride the fjr I have ridden that bike threw 22 states so I am looking forward to a much lighter bike with basically almost the same power as the fjr so I am sure this is gonna be so much fun
Superb review! Much appreciated. Besides the hard seat, you didn’t really talk about ergonomics. you mentioned riding for four hours and did not complain, so i’m assuming one could take it on long trips.
Thanks! So for the ergonomics: The bike does really well for a sport tourer with a typical forward-leaning position to the controls. I have found after about 2.5 hours a good stretch can help, in which I’ll stand on the pegs at low speeds for a few seconds. Moving slightly forwards or backwards on the seat also helps as well. I have some lower back issues and as long as I train my back to stay limp, I’m ok for long endurances. I do have my preload adjuster backed off two clicks for bumps and it’s been perfect. I will say if you encounter major bumps at low speeds, it’s best to arch your back into a semi-tuck or stand up. This way it’s not compressing your spine. I think it’s always a good idea to be able to stand up and “dirt bike” a motorcycle for long trips and faults in the road surface. The rear preload adjuster really is fantastic. Handlebars are positioned so you’re only putting a little forward weight on them. They do not hurt your wrists(mine are on the thin side) after long hauls. Clutch and brake are adjustable and I moved the clutch lever out one click to #5, as #4 had a release that was a hair too early in my opinion. Accelerating, the bike is so fast it would help if it did a little more to cradle your back, but it only does so slightly. At WOT, you squeeze with your legs, tuck and hold on, but that’s not really the point of the machine if that’s all you’re doing. Braking is phenomenally balanced and you need not adjust your upright position when stopping hard, which is an added safety bonus. ABS works so well, although it’s SO good that panic braking maneuvers from 50 will hurt the family jewels a bit. One thing I love: based on the relaxed and mostly upright geometry, when you go to lean hard into a corner, your position naturally becomes low and super sport-like naturally. As soon as you’re back up, you’re back to upright. That, by itself, is an amazing thing to experience. Hope this helps.
@@twowheelsdown1783 That TOTALLY helps! I think this is one of the best selling motorcycles across Europe. I can’t believe that they are so relatively overlooked in the US. Thanks very much and happy riding!
Nice video, thank you. I have an older 2019 N1K and love it. Yes, mine’s not very nimble in the turns but this may improve when I put Michelin Road 6s on it. Hey, does yours tend to run hot? Mine definitely needs airflow to keep cool, otherwise heats up fast and fan kicks on.
Your video review was well worth watching. A lot of bikes come with skimpy seats - the lowest seat-height possible in the showroom makes a big difference to overall sales. I have a '21 MT-09 and the factory seat was appalling. Fortunately, Yamaha sells a $250 "Comfort Seat" option which is thicker (taller) and much more comfortable. The quick-shifter on my MT-09 has it's limitations just like on the CB1000R and the 1000SX (all of which I've ridden). It's easy to nit-pick the details of any bike - brakes, throttle, suspension, quick-shifter, USB ports, etc - but there are a LOT of factors that go into creating a bike for a global market that won't lead to law suits or expensive recalls even after years of abuse and neglect. Have you seen the front number plates and the crazy chain-guards on new motorcycles in India? Anyway, you picked a truly great bike, especially in it's latest version. FYI - did you know that "Two Wheels Down" (with spaces) is a CZcams channel for a small motorcycle shop in Texas? Super easy to mix up with your channel (without spaces in the name).
Love this and thank you!! Yes I realized that a few days after branding the channel that the name was duplicated, oops! 😅 Makes perfect sense what you said about global production and pleasing every liability limitation. Hands down love this bike, so versatile in every way. Thanks again for the compliment, ride safe!
Hello, Nice review! I have a question. I own a BMW s1000XR and its a real beast. My bike before the s1000xr was a Kawasaki z900 so the diffrerence in power was alot. Now i want to change from my XR to the Ninja 1000sx but i'am scared that it won't have enhough power compared to my XR. What is your opinion? I really like the look of the Ninja 1000sx but is it also a beast?
It is when you move into sport mode. Everything north of 5500 RPM becomes extremely visceral and in your face power. It’s not something you will get bored of quickly, still will have that edge of too much torque on the high that will keep you flirting with it for years.
My 89 ZX10 didn't buzz at all, super smooth, so I've ordered a 22, you need a Prius otherwise. Also have 21 R18 that I love, she throbs, but absolutely wouldn't change anything. Pick your poison.
Great review and agree with you on points. I had to buy a lowering seat which now fits me a lot better. Also Kawasaki should have put the power socket in or usb port for the money it cost. Good luck finding the hard bags on ebay I have already looked. Mirrors could have been a lot better since there are blind spots
Could you link the USB kit you got? I'm seriously considering getting this bike, but I had a good laugh when I saw how much the USB cable accessory was
www.amazon.com/dp/B072JM3NWG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details www.amazon.com/dp/B07MGG8MTW?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details The SAE connector w/ 10A fuse was already installed by the dealer. Can easily find them on amazon for a few bucks.
Great review..I like the detail. I went from ER6n as first bike, then 10 years after bought used 2014 Z1000sx. On newer models I really dislike the mono exhaust, it is really a feature of a Z1000 machine, and the tft screen trend is just abhorrent to me. Needle rev all the way!
Were there any other bikes you considered when purchasing? Bang for the buck, Ninja 1000 sx is my top choice I think but s1000r, speed triple, Tuono, Streetfighter are all fantastic. @6'2" the ninja is the only faired bike that fits. I don't know how 650ib does it.
I had briefly considered the BMW R1250 RT. While it’s a lot more technology, I ultimately decided against it because I didn’t want to throw another ~$6k into the hobby if I wasn’t going to be commuting or doing very long trips. This is also my fourth Kawasaki and I’ve had an extremely good experience with the brand and build quality of their machines. I think since it’s also among the dying breed of sport/tourers, it made the decision much clearer for me.
Bag link is in one of the comment replies below, I don’t have it on hand at the moment sorry. Did not add heated grips, probably will not be needing them. Did not add the lighter socket because I didn’t want to pay the over $100 for it. The USB socket with cable ran a total of under $20. All of that was purchased on Amazon.
Coming from a Kawasaki Concours 14 and a Honda ST1300 (720 lbs) plus passenger this would be like a Honda Grom to me. and I only weigh 140 lbs 😅 I only see 1 flaw, it needs a center stand if it’s going to be touring a long way away from home and places for quick fixes and oil changes on the side of the road, and chain maintenance after every rain. If you want to experience a jumpy throttle try out a 2014-2015 Yamaha FZ09, it’s like a bucking bull.
Look up grip puppies to cover the stock hand grips. My indicators are LED. I have a 2021 model. Did you mention the best chain tensioner EVER! Cruise control, try pulling the clutch in to smoothly turn off cruise. Quick shifter, perhaps you have the throttle on a bit, downshifting needs throttle off, but agree on downshifts. Upshift and roll throttle off a bit (like Turbo Tony does) and it is actually quite smooth. Lean angel sensor, is that what you mean? App is not very good, apart from miles and fuel, never records any of my trips. USB, agree, I got Kawasaki to fit my one from ebay on first service, your is good:-) Panniers are good, I have the Performace/Tourer version, they are a styled item. Seat has those creases which dig in after a while, totally agree, using my AirHawk!! Just struggling to settle chatter on suspension with Topbox (yes I know, I have the Shad rack and Kawasaki (Givi) box). Riding tonight as a test without box. Cheers.
IMO it's a real pity that the bike is not available in full green anymore! Especially with the green tank! I'm not at all into black but prefer real colors..
I was fearing the same! I think I’ll bite the bullet here soon and do it. It’ll be a lot easier and I think more casual, not to mention mounting and dismounting has become really difficult with the high tail bag.
Why not use soft bags unless you need the most room for the longest trips? The capacity of the factory bags isn't all that impressive with their oddball rear (notched) styling.
Size is due to the US homologation rules, law is that they are required to have a bigger visible area compared to the UK. Bulb is probably just a cost thing I guess!
Nice thorough review. I own a 2020 1000SX. Difference between 2020 and 2021 is the color scheme. My only negative is about the downshifting on KQS. Otherwise A near perfect sports tourer for the price. USB unit can be bought from eBay or Amazon. There is a socket connector located close to the front headlight. It has both the male and female socket. You need to just insert the pins in it. That way the ignition switch controls the on and off for the usb.
The ICU looks at Lean Angle first. I agree the USB port should be standard. If a bike comes with cruise control it should have the USB. BTW…try not to finance your bike purchases. I always pay cash/check.
To much? I find the ninja very predictable and easy to get along with. Great torque down low and tons of power up top if wanted also. I thoroughly enjoy it and don’t find it to much. Hope that helps.
Different tune and powerband but VERY approachable if you have no issues respecting the power. Torque is very manageable. Seating will be further forward so I'd rec a softer seat but handling is improved and fun to lean in.
My old bike went in for some work and they give me a Vstrom for 3 months 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️.. and then I got a Ninja 1000Sx… I’d say you’ll be absolutely fine !! Just very different ride that’s all in every way!! But performance wise you’ll be good !! The ninja is only faster through the gears and at the top end ..!! But as the guy says very smooth and predictable.. get one .. you’ll love it .. ps. I think the seat height is about the same .. but your legs will be much more bent .. but it’s very very comfortable.. but obviously not as comfortable as the Vstrom ..???👌👌👌😁😁
With the windshield up there is a significant reduction in air noise but comes with slight buffeting. It’s no 1250 RT though. I’m 5’11 and with the windshield up I’m hit at chest height, up. It’s minimal and very manageable though. Assuming laminar ambient wind, flow is nice and even at high speeds and despite its width, the bike slices through the air without countering lean I think because of how well the body was designed. The weight of a liter bike also helps it in this regard. I tend to ride most days with the windshield all the way up. I go full down on hotter days which essentially makes it feel like it’s not there. One thing I don’t completely understand is the fact that it needs to be adjustable in multiple positions. For me it’s a black and white rule of blocking air or getting air, so the two center detents for adjustment I never use. You can get the extended windshields to push air up over the helmet but on the factory windshield even when all the way up you will need to be in some degree of tuck if you are trying to dodge the airstream. Hope this helps.
I'd like to know what RPMs has anything to do with the speedshifter. My KTM 1290R SA doesn't care about RPMs. It does what I tell it. This Kawi may be my next motorcycle 🏍 😬
The owner’s manual indicates the quick shifting function is available after approx. 2,500 RPM. I suspect this is because (during a downshift) below a certain RPM, the automatic “blip” is no longer sufficient to meet a higher RPM in the time it takes to complete a shift, since rev rate drops with RPM naturally. So I guess over 2,500 RPM the auto blip has enough time in the gate to raise RPM for the next lower gear.
Also the bluetooth connection with it aggravates me. It wont automatically connect to the app as soon as you turn it on. I have to crash and restart the app to get it to connect. Anybodynelse have this problem?
Yes. I’ve noticed I’ve had this problem all the time as nothing updates and I don’t even know what the logging function is for. It seems the app was built for hype. The only useful Bluetooth functions I use are knowing whether someone texted or called me so I can pull over and check if I’m expecting something. Otherwise the app is a toy but I really can’t find a practical use for it, at least not a casual one. I feel like I could be great with a good update but it seems like Kawasaki has abandoned it.
@@twowheelsdown1783 i agree i guess it was all a marketing stunt but you have to agree it worked. About 25% of the reason why i went with it was for the tft display and the "tuning" capabilities... i actually do use it to record my trip details and its really good at recording lean angles. Its really the only Kawasaki that does it at this price point.
besides speed, as a 50+ yo guy, very prudent, so I'm not concerned by the speed, but more by the weight. I just get my license. And I hesitate between a ninja 650, or a 1000SX. Just because I will keep it longer than the 650, and so lose less money when I have to sell the 650 to get the 1000. What is your thoughts on that.
I’ll get detailed here… It sounds like you are debating the perks of procuring a longer-term investment in the favor of higher upfront cost vs. a lower initial figure with the inevitability of eventually having to trade up and take the loss of depreciation on an additional machine? I think it really comes down to purpose of use and term of ownership: The 1000sx will be more ideal for long-term trips in which saddle time will be high and smoothness will be more important for slight variations in road variations (ride quality) and cruising speed in any paved environment. It’ll also afford slightly more stability with weight. The 650 will be a lower initial investment with turnkey entry into the hobby but will be less ideal for high saddle time and will offer fewer driving aids, although will be more cost-effective and economical for shorter trips and urban environments. As for physics, the ~100 lb difference between both is noticeable but not major- both bikes are easily controllable and capable on every axis. Very low speed maneuvering will be more of a learning curve with the 1000sx than the 650 for obvious reasons. The 650 will also be more vulnerable to wind movement at highway speeds. I will say that for anybody who is getting on a bike for the first time, the weight and power of a 1000 is almost always advised against. Not just from an engine power maturity standpoint, but also understanding traction limitations in certain environments is a muscle that has to be trained and even with driving aids, there is a significantly smaller margin of error afforded with a liter bike versus (in this case) a smaller parallel twin. With small vs. open environments aside, I think it would be best for you to try to get onto both, perhaps at a demo. While it is hard to find ways of getting a few miles of seat time on your considerations, I think far too many people purchase a motorcycle without really exploring its feel and personality in advance, and then try to fit that glove after the fact. There is nothing wrong with taking extra time to experience what both have to offer in different environments on your way to deciding whether you want to spend a little money and take a small loss in a couple years vs. spending twice the money and owning it for longer. That, coupled with the difference in power, weight, dimensions and features will provide a more clear preference for you. I say consider and experience both potential investments beforehand and I think you will feel much more confident in your decision in the end.
@@twowheelsdown1783 Thank you very much for this detailed answer very constructive. I think I should go with the 650 for the reason you mentioned. After all, Kawa bike do not depreciate that fast, and as you said, I will in a better place to judge the 1000SX in one or two years. Thanks again, very appreciated.
@@toldenfr Indeed, I think a 650cc bike is powerful enough for a beginner. The Ninja 1000 has 140 Hp, and even though it's smooth, that's a lot of power to handle for a beginner. I don't know where you're from, but from what I've seen, the American riders are not trained enough during their short MSF course to handle big powerful bikes properly. Plus you'll have a lot more fun pushing hard a 650cc bike, compared to being careful to not kill yourself on a 1000cc bike. You could upgrade from the 650 to the 1000 after 2 or 3 years.
@@Noxxys I'm from canada. I got a licence in france but didn't ride since the last 15 years. But still, i will buy a ninja 650 before the 1000. About this 1000, I was not too conerned about his power because i would start by the "rain mode" to cut its power.
@@toldenfr That's true, the rain mode makes it easy. Since you got your license in France and you already have some experience, I guess starting on the Ninja 1000 wouldn't be a problem.
I found out this is the case because I was told it has something to do with US.standards of something having to do with the reflection angle of the indicators.
@@twowheelsdown1783 ah that would explain it. US and Europe differ on a lot of things. Asia aswell. I'm curious if the 2022 model in the US is also still halogen, or the leds are regulated now for use over there
@@Sclaus89 I actually don’t know off the top of my head. It is the exact same bike though, slight differences in livery but otherwise no changes from what I know.
@@twowheelsdown1783 i was pushing my limit and i pushed too far... i was extremely fortunate to only walk away with a slight bruise of course i was wearing full gear. I lowsided on an exit loop because i accelerated at an angle... of course it was a dumb mistake but i will try to learn from it and try to improve my throttle control
@@twowheelsdown1783 that is very true. Insurance is taking care of it and well hopefully ill be back to it soon. Great content man keep up the good work
Amazon. Around $40 I think. I have it linked on one of the previous comments. No clamp, just magnets sadly. Was a mistake, light scratches but the bag has been perfect.
Really good question. I wanted a machine that could do a little bit of everything, essentially the intersection of performance, power, handling, riding longevity, reliability, tech and sophistication. A lighter, more nimble bike would be more fun on the twisties but wouldn’t be as fun for riding five or six hours at a time. A dedicated tourer would be much more comfortable but would be significantly less tossable in the corners. The beauty with this is you have a power band that gives you early torque for days and can accommodate a relaxed position or a slight forward lean and it becomes second to a super sport. The weight is really a small price to pay as this bike hides it really well for as much as it weighs.
Most twisty roads are not right on people's doorsteps. A bike that handles well AND is comfortable getting to good roads, and back, has a lot of value and appeal vs a dedicated, light-weight supersport machine.
@@motorazr5012 don't misunderstand, I love the N1k, and I am in the process of buying one. But a 508 pound sport tourer isn't the best if twisty roads are the primary objective. You can buy nearly any naked sport bike and it will be comfortable for transit as well as perform upon arrival.
I think you should have ridden the bike a bit more before doing your review, Some of the review is ok, but other parts of your review are rubbish. Re the front brakes, The bike has great front brakes but the front suspension is set up too soft from the factory making the brakes feel to touchy causing the front end to dive excessively, Ad a bit of preload and a bit of rebound dampening sorts this out. The rear brake abs could be better like zx14r not that the 14 had a great rear brake but the rear abs was awesome. Re the throttle, Fly by wire is always sensitive, But this bike has perfect fueling. The engine is very buzy, for the first few thousand miles, But after that, it's an absolute joy, power everywhere, and as smooth as silk very usable. The blinkers/indicators are led, The quick shifter gets better and better as the bike does more miles, Up changes from 3000rpm down changes 4000, For spirited riding this bike can hold its own against anything especially in tight twisty stuff. Your review on the dash was ok, The bike has a great seating position and can be ridden all day. The bridgestone s22 tyres are very grippy, However the 50 on the back limits the bike handling and lean, Puting a 55 on the rear really livens things up making the bike steer and turn in much nicer although it adds to the seat bheight. I could keep going on. But i won't. Greg the Aussie
Hi Greg, I’m at 1,200 miles now, still feel the same but can do a 3k follow-up review when I get there. My blinkers/indicators are indeed incandescents. I’ve heard euro models get the LEDs. As for the brakes, I might try that adjustment you recommended and retest from there. If the take-up on the lever is simply causing dive due to the front being too soft, I’d still say that’s a factory flaw, even if it’s fixable. The bike should come from the factory with ideal settings IMO. I disagree on the fueling- the fact that the bike is a drive-by-wire system means around a tenth of a second of rev hang/delayed application to smooth out chain loading/unloading from the closed position could’ve been mapped. I ran into another guy on a ‘20 with 9k and he shared this complaint. Hoping it smooths out as you mentioned. I use the quick shifter predominantly, although I haven’t noticed any change in its rpm sensitivity or lower thresholds- will monitor that with mileage. I totally agree on the spirited riding part- it goes through serious twisties every ride and it’s very capable. Thanks for the feedback!
@@twowheelsdown1783 as for the tyres, I found the S22 wore out too fast. I now ride with Pirelli Angel GT2 and have nothing but good things to say about them. If you prefer "normal" and legal riding, I would say they are the better choice.
Two wheels. How can the suspension be perfect from the factory ? We are all different weights and ride different roads at different speeds so require different settings, That’s why it’s adjustable, for your preference. Too soft for some is perfect and plush for others. Two clicks in on compression and rebound takes less than a minute, ride it, better or worse ?
thin “chicken line” means your are leaning the bike too much and your body position is “old man” Learn to hang off a bit and ENLARGE THOSE chicken strips. At parity of speed, the wider the strips, the better your body position and the faster you can go while maximizing traction and optimal suspension action for same speed.
@@twowheelsdown1783 The kids (and adults) that hype their thin chicken strips make me cringe every time I hear them. In the track when you are at superlative skill level and actually get knee down to gauge your bike lean angle- then you can boast. On the street, anyone who has less than a 1/2 inch c.s. needs lessons in bike riding and physics
yes ditto agree with all observations, love this bike. Just bought one. Compared to my Ducati 1200 R (Not S) its like a fast comfy armchair! I generally put Ohlins suspension on my bikes but I wont be doing so on this bike it is perfect!
Riding 57 years, my 89 ZX10 was wonderful, USB can be installed by a nurse. Have a 22 on order. Get over the price of things, it's developed by the manufacturer to fit precisely, cost time make it. You will at some point in time , it's just when. 57 year rider, over a million miles.
Thank you so much, by far the best and most detailed and no nonsense review for this bike - and one that gets behind the normal blah that many CZcamsrs produce with their usual headline comments and no behind the tag line detail. This is a must watch for potential buyers- thank you so much for the work that has clearly gone into this 👍
I have a 2021 1000sx as well. I’ve put about 3,000 miles on it so far and I totally agree with you about it being nimble for its weight! Well said 👍🏻 I’ve done quite a bit of night riding and the headlights work great in my opinion. My only wish with the lights is cornering headlights! Your overall review of this machine is absolutely spot on! I also moved onto this bike from a ninja 650, I’m a taller rider at 6’4” this windscreen is hellacious for taller riders and upgrading it is a must! Excellent review and analysis 👌🏼
Thank you!! Sounds like you’ve had a great experience so far. I think it’s an appropriate jump from the 650. The 650 teaches lessons on torque management and plants the seed for more upright sport tourers. Glad you enjoyed it!
6,000 now 😎 I need some new tires what are your thoughts on the battalax tires it comes with do you think there is an upgrade to be had in that department? I may just get another set of those.
@@parkeremrich7445 I’m fond of the battlax’s seeing as they were also on the 650. People talk loads about the Michelin’s but I think the Bats are fine for this bike on the road. I can speak to their longevity from the previous bike. Track day, Michelin’s I’m sure will be more beneficial.
Did you upgrade the windscreen?
Excellent review, I just nearly totalled my cbr1000rr and am giving to my son who says it is his dream bike, just needs plastics, I'm going with 1000sx and found your review helpful, thank you!
Best review of this bike I've seen so far, and I've watched a lot of videos. Thanks for being so in-depth and granular.
My only observation on this bike is that EVERY review says things like 'it's a great tourer, it has excellent fuel consumption, its fast ENOUGH, its powerful ENOUGH, the cruise control is great', etc etc etc.
But not one review says, plainly, this bike swept me off my feet.
Watch one review of the ZX10R, or the 636. And the first words are "wow". I've never heard the same reaction about this bike. And that speaks volumes to me.
I'm currently torn between getting this, and getting a 636. I want the thrill, the deathly-sounding engine mid-range. I had a 636 for a few months and every time I put my leg over it I smiled. I can't imagine this bike will do the same.
I guess I'll have to test ride it!
Great Video! Just ordered a 2022 1000sx and I'm stoked to get on the road with it!
Yea you are and congrats!! You’ll love it.
Hi there. Good review. Perhaps a little bit shaky.. mounting the camera on a gimbal could improve it a little bit. The lean angle is detected by the 6 axis IMU. Throttle, ABS, TCR are controlled / connected to the IMU. I have the 2020 model in green and I love this bike. Greetings from Switzerland
Just bought a 2023!! Can’t wait to ride it!! 🖤💚
Generally a nice and thorough review of the bike (but the camera work could have been steadier).
I have owned this bike now for a little over a year and done around 16.000 km (10.000 miles) on it. I ride it in crazy traffic (Paris), I have done long distance touring (3 weeks at a time), I have ridden it a top speed on the German autobahn (253 km/h or 158 miles/h on GPS; it shows around 265 km/h on the speedometer) and I spent two days on track (and found it was not for me).
I generally agree with your review, and you'll have so much fun with the bike once it's had its first service and you push it past 6500 revs which is when it really comes alive.
The thing that frustrates me the most about the bike are the heated grips, but I don't think you have those.
People often complain about the lack of a centre stand. I have a short video on that - including the solution, if you want to check it out.
With regards the "grabby" brake feel you talk about; try to stiffen the front suspension a bit. I found it far too soft for my taste, with too much diving overall. Mind you, the bike is set up for a 65 kg Japanese test rider (so my Kawa dealer told me) so if you are much heavier than that or carry some extra weight its going to change things.
USB port; I got my installed at no cost when I bought the bike and paid Euro 31.50 for the (double) unit. (Maybe I have a good dealer).
Panniers; I bought the "tourer" version so they came with the bike, but I think it's a fair price to pay for excellent boxes, which are not only very functional, sturdy and easy to use, but which actually don't subtract from the look of the bike like most other panniers do - and maybe even makes it better looking(?). Good luck on getting them second hand, I wouldn't hold my breath for it though.
Fantastic advice! I think I will stiffen front after all. I’m at 1200 miles now and have gone to red line several times. It’s fine, but because it accelerate so fast I don’t find it very useful since you’re easily in triple digit territory within a very very short amount of time. Here in the states, there’s only so many places you can do that and I didn’t really buy it for speed but as you said it really does come alive. Sorry about the shaky camera, I was experimenting with different modes for the video and I think I will do more of a fisheye next time and be maybe a little more still.
People complaining about having to muscle the bike in the corners are probably referring to an older model of the Ninja, pre 2020, which was indeed not very nimble. The difference is in the geometry and the tires.
Excellent review. Thank you!
Nice review covering all the small details!
Thank you!!
Good review, very comprehensive! I agree with all your points. I don't yet own this bike, but I demo'd it at the IMS show recently and instantly fell in love! You said it... SMOOTHNESS!! That inline 4 is so damn smooth! I agree the quickshifter on the downshifts takes some getting used to. I found that slip shifting on the downshift provided smoother more consistent results, but throttling off when quick shifting down wasn't such a big deal. Like you said, I'm nit picking. Conversely, on my Panigale I can bang the gears down at any time and the bike just responds, but I guess that's the diff between sport and sport touring? Eh, nit picky. I'm looking forward to seeing if Kawi offers any new colors and/or standard features for the 2022 model year. I'm really considering buying this bike for next season. Looking forward to your future content. Sub'd.
Lots of info thx helps me narrow down my next bike choice a bit 👍🏼
Wow - I have really enjoyed your review and the way you have gone to the depths of comparing practicality vs good on paper. You are almost saying its not Ducati but its good at what it does and does it well. Thank you
Absolutely! I’m glad this was able to do something for you. Thank you for the compliment!
Top review bud. I’m buying a 2021 model this week. Really helpful comments …. Thanks
Great review. Thank you 👍🏼
Very very very good review. Thank you sir for taking the time to make this video. I also think its wild that you wore your helmet in 90 degree weather for this entire 40 minute video when you could of taken it off hahaha, just messing around. But seriously if your only big complaint is the quick shifter down shifting the way you talked about, this bike is a HUGE win. Wouldn't the bike know where the apex is based on lean angle and throttle?
When I bought the bike, I agree that the panniers seemed expensive, however, once I used them and got to appreciate the design and ease of use including the one-key system, for me, they were worth every penny. Good review otherwise and thanks for sharing it.
Some good insight on the panniers. Thanks!
Nice review... thanks
Happy to help!
Very detailed and personal review. I bought a low-mileage 2020 performance tourer and coming from a BMW R1250GS I’m very much enjoying this bike. I reckoned that comfort wise I would to trade in a lot but for the time being I find the Ninja very capable even for touring. I’m exactly the same height as you. I didn’t like the seat at all, not so much the stiffness as the fact that it had some sharp edges that after a while would be felt painfully in the inner side of my thighs. I swapped it for a “comfort seat” and although a costly upgrade it has relieved that problem. I subscribe everything you point out although coming from a BMW boxer, I actually find the quickshifter precise, smooth and reliable. My biggest gripe with the bike are the mirrors. I find them really poor and find myself looking way more often over my shoulder as I don’t trust what they are reflecting (most of the time my hand or shoulders). As for the Rideology app, BMW is in another league for that. I’ve tried it but haven’t really bothered. I prefer pairing my intercom and my phone to my Zumo satnav which more ore less records the same parameters, allows for music to be played (I prefer listening to the engine, though) and receiving phone calls.
Ride safely
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for providing feedback. I have a mod list for the bike this spring and I’ve been trying to keep my eyes away from the BMW 1250 RS as a possible replacement. Going to do a video soon on the upgrades soon, thinking they’ll address every issue the 1Ksx has.
@@twowheelsdown1783 Have you tried the RS? I haven’t ridden it personally but I have a BMW R1250GS and the engine is the same. I have spoken with people who have ridden both the RS and the GS and they all concede that the GS is the more nimble one of the two (probably the geometry or the front with Telelever suspension which the RS doesn’t have). I only ask because the one thing that convinced me of the Ninja after testing it was its engine (and gearbox) compared to the GS. The boxer engine has a lot of torque which is nice, specially in the twisties, but the Kawasaki mill is much more refined, it has less vibrations, it’s smoother and you can accelerate in 6th gear from 50 km which makes for a very relaxing riding if you want to. If you try to do that with the boxer engine, the whole bike will rattle and shake. As far as electronic aids, informatic package and other goodies is concerned, BMW is more advanced but you’ll pay for it. Let me know if you try the RS what you think of it
@@carlosalonso9866 interesting I haven’t tried the RS yet (literally no one around here has them) but it’s on the list. I really want to compare riding positions as well as torque curve. I did find out the RS has a whopping 5 inches on the Kawi’s wheelbase though. Took an updated video today with the bike started for the first time in 5 months, will post soon.
@@twowheelsdown1783 Consensus seems to be that in the Sport-Touring class, the Ninja is more biased towards “sport” whereas the RS towards “touring”. I’ve seen some comparisons from an Austrian and an Italian motorcycle magazine and the verdict is: the RS is more comfortable if you need a tool for long highway stitches, it can carry more luggage, it’s way better for two-up riding and has the more modern electronic package (specially the ESA electronic suspension which I know from my GS and is really convenient, mind you that with BMW you pay for nearly every extra, so a fully equipped RS might cost close to double the price of the Ninja). The Ninja was considered more involving and nimble. As far as ergonomics is concerned, the RS is designed with an average German rider in mind, so the handlebar is wider and further away from the rider than is the case on the Ninja. Judging from my experience with BMW, a rider of our height will feel a bit stretched, you can overcome it with risers that have an offsetting angle to the rear (I did that on my GS), just that you know.
Looking forward to your post
@@carlosalonso9866 awesome, awesome info! Now I REALLY want to test ride one. Will try to upload today if WiFi is in a good mood.
Super in depth review.......thanks for that.....for some reason (maybe because the platform is so new) reviews on this are small in number and not of the best quality. So that's a long winded way of saying I appreciate your review man.....cheers ....two wheels down
I'm interested in this bike ever since I saw one at my local dealership........I thought it was a 400 at first glance until I got closer and saw the 1000sx badge......say on it and feel like with the ergos I could ride it all day with no wrist or back pain and still have some punch.........the specs on this thing says it runs high 10's in the quarter.........seems like the perfect daily rider.......the swiss army knife I've been looking for........my first target was the fz1 but I hate the half faired look........you can remove all that but why when there's so many nice naked options out there ........then I found this
Last coment and I'm done.......talking about the flickability of it.....I've heard the same comments on it but I think they're confusing the z1000 and this being that the sx evolved from that platform......one of the knocks on the z was it's cumbersome in corners
Thank you for the compliments! Sorry it took so long to reply, youtube didn’t notify me and I just came across this on accident. Only issue with very long riding is biker’s butt. Seat definitely needs more foam otherwise it’s perfect. Previous 1000sx before the redesign in 2020 didn’t turn as well from what I’m told. Can throw this around easily and it’s very forgiving as long as you’re respectful of the machine. Glad this helped you. Will try to get more content up here when the weather gets warmer again.
awesome review! i was wondering is it possible to remove the grab rails on the side of the tail to give it a more super sport look?
I just bought a 2024 and I am totally going crazy with anticipation I get the bike in 3 weeks I am coming off a 2008 yamaha fjr1300 I have had this bike since 08 and I am telling it takes real muscle to ride the fjr and the bike is really heavy that is main reason I am getting rid of it I am now 58 yrs old so I had been riding it for 16 yrs lol and this bike has no aides only ABS that's it and it takes muscle just to twist the throttle lol after having own several newer bikes I was amazed how much muscle it actually took to ride the fjr I have ridden that bike threw 22 states so I am looking forward to a much lighter bike with basically almost the same power as the fjr so I am sure this is gonna be so much fun
Superb review! Much appreciated. Besides the hard seat, you didn’t really talk about ergonomics. you mentioned riding for four hours and did not complain, so i’m assuming one could take it on long trips.
Thanks! So for the ergonomics:
The bike does really well for a sport tourer with a typical forward-leaning position to the controls. I have found after about 2.5 hours a good stretch can help, in which I’ll stand on the pegs at low speeds for a few seconds. Moving slightly forwards or backwards on the seat also helps as well. I have some lower back issues and as long as I train my back to stay limp, I’m ok for long endurances. I do have my preload adjuster backed off two clicks for bumps and it’s been perfect. I will say if you encounter major bumps at low speeds, it’s best to arch your back into a semi-tuck or stand up. This way it’s not compressing your spine. I think it’s always a good idea to be able to stand up and “dirt bike” a motorcycle for long trips and faults in the road surface. The rear preload adjuster really is fantastic. Handlebars are positioned so you’re only putting a little forward weight on them. They do not hurt your wrists(mine are on the thin side) after long hauls. Clutch and brake are adjustable and I moved the clutch lever out one click to #5, as #4 had a release that was a hair too early in my opinion.
Accelerating, the bike is so fast it would help if it did a little more to cradle your back, but it only does so slightly. At WOT, you squeeze with your legs, tuck and hold on, but that’s not really the point of the machine if that’s all you’re doing. Braking is phenomenally balanced and you need not adjust your upright position when stopping hard, which is an added safety bonus. ABS works so well, although it’s SO good that panic braking maneuvers from 50 will hurt the family jewels a bit.
One thing I love: based on the relaxed and mostly upright geometry, when you go to lean hard into a corner, your position naturally becomes low and super sport-like naturally. As soon as you’re back up, you’re back to upright. That, by itself, is an amazing thing to experience. Hope this helps.
@@twowheelsdown1783 That TOTALLY helps! I think this is one of the best selling motorcycles across Europe. I can’t believe that they are so relatively overlooked in the US. Thanks very much and happy riding!
@@twowheelsdown1783 don't forget to sqeeeeze those knees on the tank when you brake (practice in daily normal riding) it makes all the difference ..
awesome bike
Nice video, thank you. I have an older 2019 N1K and love it. Yes, mine’s not very nimble in the turns but this may improve when I put Michelin Road 6s on it. Hey, does yours tend to run hot? Mine definitely needs airflow to keep cool, otherwise heats up fast and fan kicks on.
Your video review was well worth watching. A lot of bikes come with skimpy seats - the lowest seat-height possible in the showroom makes a big difference to overall sales. I have a '21 MT-09 and the factory seat was appalling. Fortunately, Yamaha sells a $250 "Comfort Seat" option which is thicker (taller) and much more comfortable. The quick-shifter on my MT-09 has it's limitations just like on the CB1000R and the 1000SX (all of which I've ridden). It's easy to nit-pick the details of any bike - brakes, throttle, suspension, quick-shifter, USB ports, etc - but there are a LOT of factors that go into creating a bike for a global market that won't lead to law suits or expensive recalls even after years of abuse and neglect. Have you seen the front number plates and the crazy chain-guards on new motorcycles in India? Anyway, you picked a truly great bike, especially in it's latest version. FYI - did you know that "Two Wheels Down" (with spaces) is a CZcams channel for a small motorcycle shop in Texas? Super easy to mix up with your channel (without spaces in the name).
Love this and thank you!! Yes I realized that a few days after branding the channel that the name was duplicated, oops! 😅 Makes perfect sense what you said about global production and pleasing every liability limitation. Hands down love this bike, so versatile in every way. Thanks again for the compliment, ride safe!
Nice bike!
Hello,
Nice review! I have a question. I own a BMW s1000XR and its a real beast. My bike before the s1000xr was a Kawasaki z900 so the diffrerence in power was alot. Now i want to change from my XR to the Ninja 1000sx but i'am scared that it won't have enhough power compared to my XR. What is your opinion? I really like the look of the Ninja 1000sx but is it also a beast?
It is when you move into sport mode. Everything north of 5500 RPM becomes extremely visceral and in your face power. It’s not something you will get bored of quickly, still will have that edge of too much torque on the high that will keep you flirting with it for years.
Nice review. Can I ask what make the tail pack is?
Thank you, this a very interesting in depth review. Very useful.
You are most welcome!
We can't forget about the good old vibrations ninjas have !
Definitely are minimal on this. Although after 6 consecutive hours of riding you do feel it in your fingers.
My 89 ZX10 didn't buzz at all, super smooth, so I've ordered a 22, you need a Prius otherwise. Also have 21 R18 that I love, she throbs, but absolutely wouldn't change anything. Pick your poison.
Great review and agree with you on points. I had to buy a lowering seat which now fits me a lot better. Also Kawasaki should have put the power socket in or usb port for the money it cost. Good luck finding the hard bags on ebay I have already looked. Mirrors could have been a lot better since there are blind spots
How tall are you? Picking a 2023 up tomorrow
Could you link the USB kit you got? I'm seriously considering getting this bike, but I had a good laugh when I saw how much the USB cable accessory was
www.amazon.com/dp/B072JM3NWG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
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The SAE connector w/ 10A fuse was already installed by the dealer. Can easily find them on amazon for a few bucks.
What’s the make and model of the rear soft luggage you have on the pillion seat? Thanks
Great review..I like the detail. I went from ER6n as first bike, then 10 years after bought used 2014 Z1000sx.
On newer models I really dislike the mono exhaust, it is really a feature of a Z1000 machine, and the tft screen trend is just abhorrent to me. Needle rev all the way!
Were there any other bikes you considered when purchasing? Bang for the buck, Ninja 1000 sx is my top choice I think but s1000r, speed triple, Tuono, Streetfighter are all fantastic. @6'2" the ninja is the only faired bike that fits. I don't know how 650ib does it.
I had briefly considered the BMW R1250 RT. While it’s a lot more technology, I ultimately decided against it because I didn’t want to throw another ~$6k into the hobby if I wasn’t going to be commuting or doing very long trips. This is also my fourth Kawasaki and I’ve had an extremely good experience with the brand and build quality of their machines. I think since it’s also among the dying breed of sport/tourers, it made the decision much clearer for me.
Would you share the link of bags? And did you add heated grip? Or lighter socket? With the price?
Thank you dude. Safe ride
Bag link is in one of the comment replies below, I don’t have it on hand at the moment sorry. Did not add heated grips, probably will not be needing them. Did not add the lighter socket because I didn’t want to pay the over $100 for it. The USB socket with cable ran a total of under $20. All of that was purchased on Amazon.
Coming from a Kawasaki Concours 14 and a Honda ST1300 (720 lbs) plus passenger this would be like a Honda Grom to me. and I only weigh 140 lbs 😅
I only see 1 flaw, it needs a center stand if it’s going to be touring a long way away from home and places for quick fixes and oil changes on the side of the road, and chain maintenance after every rain.
If you want to experience a jumpy throttle try out a 2014-2015 Yamaha FZ09, it’s like a bucking bull.
Look up grip puppies to cover the stock hand grips. My indicators are LED. I have a 2021 model. Did you mention the best chain tensioner EVER! Cruise control, try pulling the clutch in to smoothly turn off cruise. Quick shifter, perhaps you have the throttle on a bit, downshifting needs throttle off, but agree on downshifts. Upshift and roll throttle off a bit (like Turbo Tony does) and it is actually quite smooth. Lean angel sensor, is that what you mean? App is not very good, apart from miles and fuel, never records any of my trips. USB, agree, I got Kawasaki to fit my one from ebay on first service, your is good:-) Panniers are good, I have the Performace/Tourer version, they are a styled item. Seat has those creases which dig in after a while, totally agree, using my AirHawk!! Just struggling to settle chatter on suspension with Topbox (yes I know, I have the Shad rack and Kawasaki (Givi) box). Riding tonight as a test without box. Cheers.
Can you attach the kawasaki panniers if you have the Shad top box rack?
@@holeephuc007 Yes, but I removed my top box as that caused weaving behind vehicles in winds, and unsettled the front suspension.
@a68war thanks for replying. But I assume it is possible is that correct?
All fits nicely both topbox and panniers together yes.
@@a68war Thank you again. Problem solved.
IMO it's a real pity that the bike is not available in full green anymore! Especially with the green tank! I'm not at all into black but prefer real colors..
Agreed, need more color options besides black.
@@shreksexy6879 UK got freakin 3! Shows you where the bike sits in regards to the US market. I too wish they'd bring the green or white the UK got.
Agree - as soon as i can afford this bike, it will be my next but i REALLY don’t want black or black+grey.
nice bike
Мотик реально хороший! Я очень рад квикшифтеру и блипперу
That cost for a hard shell pannier is very normal, and you'll be hard pressed to find a better designed factory system.
Also nice review, LOL. Subscribed.
I was fearing the same! I think I’ll bite the bullet here soon and do it. It’ll be a lot easier and I think more casual, not to mention mounting and dismounting has become really difficult with the high tail bag.
Unfortunately the total cost of panniers is around $1100 with mounting hardware and trim pieces 🤨. Still worth it IMO.
Why not use soft bags unless you need the most room for the longest trips? The capacity of the factory bags isn't all that impressive with their oddball rear (notched) styling.
odd how on your USA model why you haven't got LED turn signals unlike here in UK where they are much smaller and LED
Size is due to the US homologation rules, law is that they are required to have a bigger visible area compared to the UK. Bulb is probably just a cost thing I guess!
man love the bike. i have a 2004 st1300, and a 2001 honda shadow ace750, and 2022 i hope have to a 2010 kawasaki z1000. thanks
Nice thorough review. I own a 2020 1000SX. Difference between 2020 and 2021 is the color scheme. My only negative is about the downshifting on KQS. Otherwise A near perfect sports tourer for the price. USB unit can be bought from eBay or Amazon. There is a socket connector located close to the front headlight. It has both the male and female socket. You need to just insert the pins in it. That way the ignition switch controls the on and off for the usb.
The ICU looks at Lean Angle first. I agree the USB port should be standard. If a bike comes with cruise control it should have the USB. BTW…try not to finance your bike purchases. I always pay cash/check.
What seat pack and tank bag are they please
Btw, what brand and model is your rear pack?
Motorcycle Seat Bag Tail Bag -... www.amazon.com/dp/B07WCVQXT6?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@twowheelsdown1783 Great price.
So I have a Vstrom 1000XT......is the 1000sx too much bike for me? Coming from an Adventure bike to this bike?
To much? I find the ninja very predictable and easy to get along with. Great torque down low and tons of power up top if wanted also. I thoroughly enjoy it and don’t find it to much. Hope that helps.
Different tune and powerband but VERY approachable if you have no issues respecting the power. Torque is very manageable. Seating will be further forward so I'd rec a softer seat but handling is improved and fun to lean in.
My old bike went in for some work and they give me a Vstrom for 3 months 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️.. and then I got a Ninja 1000Sx… I’d say you’ll be absolutely fine !! Just very different ride that’s all in every way!! But performance wise you’ll be good !! The ninja is only faster through the gears and at the top end ..!! But as the guy says very smooth and predictable.. get one .. you’ll love it .. ps. I think the seat height is about the same .. but your legs will be much more bent .. but it’s very very comfortable.. but obviously not as comfortable as the Vstrom ..???👌👌👌😁😁
How is the wind noise and buffeting on this bike?
With the windshield up there is a significant reduction in air noise but comes with slight buffeting. It’s no 1250 RT though. I’m 5’11 and with the windshield up I’m hit at chest height, up. It’s minimal and very manageable though. Assuming laminar ambient wind, flow is nice and even at high speeds and despite its width, the bike slices through the air without countering lean I think because of how well the body was designed. The weight of a liter bike also helps it in this regard. I tend to ride most days with the windshield all the way up. I go full down on hotter days which essentially makes it feel like it’s not there. One thing I don’t completely understand is the fact that it needs to be adjustable in multiple positions. For me it’s a black and white rule of blocking air or getting air, so the two center detents for adjustment I never use. You can get the extended windshields to push air up over the helmet but on the factory windshield even when all the way up you will need to be in some degree of tuck if you are trying to dodge the airstream. Hope this helps.
What is the cool tail bag?
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I'd like to know what RPMs has anything to do with the speedshifter. My KTM 1290R SA doesn't care about RPMs. It does what I tell it.
This Kawi may be my next motorcycle 🏍 😬
The owner’s manual indicates the quick shifting function is available after approx. 2,500 RPM. I suspect this is because (during a downshift) below a certain RPM, the automatic “blip” is no longer sufficient to meet a higher RPM in the time it takes to complete a shift, since rev rate drops with RPM naturally. So I guess over 2,500 RPM the auto blip has enough time in the gate to raise RPM for the next lower gear.
Also the bluetooth connection with it aggravates me. It wont automatically connect to the app as soon as you turn it on. I have to crash and restart the app to get it to connect. Anybodynelse have this problem?
Yes. I’ve noticed I’ve had this problem all the time as nothing updates and I don’t even know what the logging function is for. It seems the app was built for hype. The only useful Bluetooth functions I use are knowing whether someone texted or called me so I can pull over and check if I’m expecting something. Otherwise the app is a toy but I really can’t find a practical use for it, at least not a casual one. I feel like I could be great with a good update but it seems like Kawasaki has abandoned it.
@@twowheelsdown1783 i agree i guess it was all a marketing stunt but you have to agree it worked. About 25% of the reason why i went with it was for the tft display and the "tuning" capabilities... i actually do use it to record my trip details and its really good at recording lean angles. Its really the only Kawasaki that does it at this price point.
besides speed, as a 50+ yo guy, very prudent, so I'm not concerned by the speed, but more by the weight. I just get my license. And I hesitate between a ninja 650, or a 1000SX. Just because I will keep it longer than the 650, and so lose less money when I have to sell the 650 to get the 1000. What is your thoughts on that.
I’ll get detailed here…
It sounds like you are debating the perks of procuring a longer-term investment in the favor of higher upfront cost vs. a lower initial figure with the inevitability of eventually having to trade up and take the loss of depreciation on an additional machine?
I think it really comes down to purpose of use and term of ownership:
The 1000sx will be more ideal for long-term trips in which saddle time will be high and smoothness will be more important for slight variations in road variations (ride quality) and cruising speed in any paved environment. It’ll also afford slightly more stability with weight.
The 650 will be a lower initial investment with turnkey entry into the hobby but will be less ideal for high saddle time and will offer fewer driving aids, although will be more cost-effective and economical for shorter trips and urban environments.
As for physics, the ~100 lb difference between both is noticeable but not major- both bikes are easily controllable and capable on every axis.
Very low speed maneuvering will be more of a learning curve with the 1000sx than the 650 for obvious reasons. The 650 will also be more vulnerable to wind movement at highway speeds.
I will say that for anybody who is getting on a bike for the first time, the weight and power of a 1000 is almost always advised against. Not just from an engine power maturity standpoint, but also understanding traction limitations in certain environments is a muscle that has to be trained and even with driving aids, there is a significantly smaller margin of error afforded with a liter bike versus (in this case) a smaller parallel twin.
With small vs. open environments aside, I think it would be best for you to try to get onto both, perhaps at a demo. While it is hard to find ways of getting a few miles of seat time on your considerations, I think far too many people purchase a motorcycle without really exploring its feel and personality in advance, and then try to fit that glove after the fact. There is nothing wrong with taking extra time to experience what both have to offer in different environments on your way to deciding whether you want to spend a little money and take a small loss in a couple years vs. spending twice the money and owning it for longer. That, coupled with the difference in power, weight, dimensions and features will provide a more clear preference for you.
I say consider and experience both potential investments beforehand and I think you will feel much more confident in your decision in the end.
@@twowheelsdown1783 Thank you very much for this detailed answer very constructive. I think I should go with the 650 for the reason you mentioned. After all, Kawa bike do not depreciate that fast, and as you said, I will in a better place to judge the 1000SX in one or two years.
Thanks again, very appreciated.
@@toldenfr Indeed, I think a 650cc bike is powerful enough for a beginner. The Ninja 1000 has 140 Hp, and even though it's smooth, that's a lot of power to handle for a beginner. I don't know where you're from, but from what I've seen, the American riders are not trained enough during their short MSF course to handle big powerful bikes properly. Plus you'll have a lot more fun pushing hard a 650cc bike, compared to being careful to not kill yourself on a 1000cc bike. You could upgrade from the 650 to the 1000 after 2 or 3 years.
@@Noxxys I'm from canada. I got a licence in france but didn't ride since the last 15 years. But still, i will buy a ninja 650 before the 1000. About this 1000, I was not too conerned about his power because i would start by the "rain mode" to cut its power.
@@toldenfr That's true, the rain mode makes it easy. Since you got your license in France and you already have some experience, I guess starting on the Ninja 1000 wouldn't be a problem.
What i find really weird is that you have Halogen indicator lights front and back on this 2021 model. In europe, they are all LED lights.
I found out this is the case because I was told it has something to do with US.standards of something having to do with the reflection angle of the indicators.
@@twowheelsdown1783 ah that would explain it. US and Europe differ on a lot of things. Asia aswell. I'm curious if the 2022 model in the US is also still halogen, or the leds are regulated now for use over there
@@Sclaus89 I actually don’t know off the top of my head. It is the exact same bike though, slight differences in livery but otherwise no changes from what I know.
I dropped mine a month ago. I really miss it 😪 waiting on kawi backorder parts to arrive... ughh never doing that again
Sorry to hear of this. Glad you’re ok. What happened?
@@twowheelsdown1783 i was pushing my limit and i pushed too far... i was extremely fortunate to only walk away with a slight bruise of course i was wearing full gear. I lowsided on an exit loop because i accelerated at an angle... of course it was a dumb mistake but i will try to learn from it and try to improve my throttle control
Happy you’re OK to walk away with a lesson and your life. The bike will be repaired, just a little inconvenience really.
@@twowheelsdown1783 that is very true. Insurance is taking care of it and well hopefully ill be back to it soon. Great content man keep up the good work
Any updates? Did you get it back yet?
I have one exactly like your's, mine came with LEDs all over, no such thing a incandescent bulbs from last century ;P.. I'm not in US though.
The ones in the US have incandescent turn signals. Everything else is LED.
My next bike ditching cbr1000 and vfr800 to purchase one
You will not be disappointed. It is so much more bike than most people realize, especially for the money.
I've never bought new, but $15549 out the door for a $12599 sounds like robbery. Do you have high state sales tax?
Yes in Virginia everything is robbery. This was at 3.49/60 months.
I was a gutted tbh coming off a Ktm super duke r , to a z1000 sx felt like 125. Bike with short gears high reving cruiseing motorway
Who's tank bag is that? Tank clamp, from who?
Amazon. Around $40 I think. I have it linked on one of the previous comments. No clamp, just magnets sadly. Was a mistake, light scratches but the bag has been perfect.
600 standard bike is fine to start on.
You should update your PIN code now.. ;)
lol I noticed it maybe a week after first published.
Just curious, why would you go with a 500 plus pound tourer if you primarily use the bike for twisties?
Really good question. I wanted a machine that could do a little bit of everything, essentially the intersection of performance, power, handling, riding longevity, reliability, tech and sophistication. A lighter, more nimble bike would be more fun on the twisties but wouldn’t be as fun for riding five or six hours at a time. A dedicated tourer would be much more comfortable but would be significantly less tossable in the corners. The beauty with this is you have a power band that gives you early torque for days and can accommodate a relaxed position or a slight forward lean and it becomes second to a super sport. The weight is really a small price to pay as this bike hides it really well for as much as it weighs.
Most twisty roads are not right on people's doorsteps. A bike that handles well AND is comfortable getting to good roads, and back, has a lot of value and appeal vs a dedicated, light-weight supersport machine.
@@motorazr5012 don't misunderstand, I love the N1k, and I am in the process of buying one. But a 508 pound sport tourer isn't the best if twisty roads are the primary objective. You can buy nearly any naked sport bike and it will be comfortable for transit as well as perform upon arrival.
Ridden my 89 ZX10 from San Diego to Banff, Vancouver and down to SD, 12k miles, have a 22 on order 😀
@@stevensullivan5287 we all have our masochisms 😉.
I think you should have ridden the bike a bit more before doing your review, Some of the review is ok, but other parts of your review are rubbish.
Re the front brakes, The bike has great front brakes but the front suspension is set up too soft from the
factory making the brakes feel to touchy causing the front end to dive excessively, Ad a bit of preload and a bit of rebound dampening sorts this out. The rear brake abs could be better like zx14r not that the 14 had a great rear brake but the rear abs was awesome. Re the throttle, Fly by wire is always sensitive, But this bike has perfect fueling. The engine is very buzy, for the first few thousand miles, But after that, it's an absolute joy, power everywhere, and as smooth as silk very usable. The blinkers/indicators are led, The quick shifter gets better and better as the bike does more miles, Up changes from 3000rpm down changes 4000, For spirited riding this bike can hold its own against anything especially in tight twisty stuff. Your review on the dash was ok, The bike has a great seating position and can be ridden all day. The bridgestone s22 tyres are very grippy, However the 50 on the back limits the bike handling and lean, Puting a 55 on the rear really livens things up making the bike steer and turn in much nicer although it adds to the seat bheight. I could keep going on. But i won't.
Greg the Aussie
Hi Greg, I’m at 1,200 miles now, still feel the same but can do a 3k follow-up review when I get there. My blinkers/indicators are indeed incandescents. I’ve heard euro models get the LEDs. As for the brakes, I might try that adjustment you recommended and retest from there. If the take-up on the lever is simply causing dive due to the front being too soft, I’d still say that’s a factory flaw, even if it’s fixable. The bike should come from the factory with ideal settings IMO. I disagree on the fueling- the fact that the bike is a drive-by-wire system means around a tenth of a second of rev hang/delayed application to smooth out chain loading/unloading from the closed position could’ve been mapped. I ran into another guy on a ‘20 with 9k and he shared this complaint. Hoping it smooths out as you mentioned. I use the quick shifter predominantly, although I haven’t noticed any change in its rpm sensitivity or lower thresholds- will monitor that with mileage. I totally agree on the spirited riding part- it goes through serious twisties every ride and it’s very capable. Thanks for the feedback!
@@twowheelsdown1783 as for the tyres, I found the S22 wore out too fast. I now ride with Pirelli Angel GT2 and have nothing but good things to say about them. If you prefer "normal" and legal riding, I would say they are the better choice.
Two wheels. How can the suspension be perfect from the factory ? We are all different weights and ride different roads at different speeds so require different settings, That’s why it’s adjustable, for your preference. Too soft for some is perfect and plush for others. Two clicks in on compression and rebound takes less than a minute, ride it, better or worse ?
I don't think they dying they are changing the heavy sport tourer maybe dying
thin “chicken line” means your are leaning the bike too much and your body position is “old man” Learn to hang off a bit and ENLARGE THOSE chicken strips. At parity of speed, the wider the strips, the better your body position and the faster you can go while maximizing traction and optimal suspension action for same speed.
Makes sense!
@@twowheelsdown1783 The kids (and adults) that hype their thin chicken strips make me cringe every time I hear them. In the track when you are at superlative skill level and actually get knee down to gauge your bike lean angle- then you can boast. On the street, anyone who has less than a 1/2 inch c.s. needs
lessons in bike riding and physics
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It's probably your lean angle
yes ditto agree with all observations, love this bike. Just bought one. Compared to my Ducati 1200 R (Not S) its like a fast comfy armchair! I generally put Ohlins suspension on my bikes but I wont be doing so on this bike it is perfect!
1,000% agree!!
Che palle!!
Try to learn to ride motorcycles before making reviews... they are not purses !
I’ve been riding 14 years across four bikes and zero drops. Care to elaborate?
Riding 57 years, my 89 ZX10 was wonderful, USB can be installed by a nurse. Have a 22 on order. Get over the price of things, it's developed by the manufacturer to fit precisely, cost time make it. You will at some point in time , it's just when. 57 year rider, over a million miles.