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Michael Jordan vs Magic Johnson 1991 Game 5 NBA Finals reaction now uploaded go watch that reaction if you have something to say I talked about Magic and Jordan more in that video
Jordan will outclass best defender on gen z era.. Meanwhile lebron will be shutdown by rodman,shaq,mutombo and many more.. Game change easier now soft no hand check.. We older people is wise and objective about the best..such lionel messi in this era being GOAT in football.. But best basketball player,best movie,best music dont change.. You are gen z stupid AF go study hard boy.. I bet you one of gen z who had empty head can't mention continent and other country
MUSIC:
Yes music got worse. How are artists better when you don't even have to study or learn music to make a recording? You can just mesh together sounds from a computer today. Back in the day musicians spent years studying and practicing, perfecting their craft. They were actually learning to read music, playing actual instruments. You obtained music by actually creating it and putting it on a blank sheet of paper not mixing noises generated from a computer or sampling somebody else's. And if you could not sing there was no computer to come and cover it up and smooth out the rough spots. So how is that better?
SPORTS:
Players are not scoring more just because they're better. The league purposely change the rules of defense. They said they wanted to create a more free-flowing game. They said it. The transition took place right around the time LeBron was coming into the league. That's why they drop hand checking that's why they added zone play that's why they added 3 second rule on defense to get the bigs out of the middle. Scoring kept dropping because the defensive style didn't allow players to move. It was intentional.
Ron Artest and Ray Allen played against LeBron and Michael. Go look up what they said about Jordan. They both said that it's easier now Jordan could average 40 in this era. Iverson said the same thing.
From the 1980s till today the average height of a NBA player is basically the same. Players
are about 10-15 lb heavier that's it. You guys act like there was this giant leap in human evolution over the last 30 years and it hasn't been. Go look it up. Players aren't any taller.
If players are such elite specimens why are they breaking down so much now. Much of what Bird, Magic Jordan and those guys did up to 1990-91 they did while still flying coach. You flew the overnights got the flight delays like everybody else and crammed your basketball body into those tiny seats for hours.
Teams weren't using private jets and they weren't doing load management. Young people act like Civilization didn't begin until you came on the scene.
Please upload the video of players today doing these moves you see Michael doing I will wait.
Michael said he switched hands because he thought Sam Perkins was coming over to contest. He wasn't doing it just to do it.
@@RepentOrPerishL133 I'm one of those guys who use computers to create music. 😂. You are absolutely, right and even I know there is a great, skill gap between what I do and people who actually, learn how to use instruments and learn music theory. Learning the old fashion way, is waaaay harder but, more beneficial in the end. I would never consider myself greater than traditional muscians; no matter how good I become on a computer. I'm 39 years old and I've learned to not shit on the generations I didn't experience. Michael Jordan is the best I've ever seen, PERIOD! But, I don't put down the greats before Jordan, just because I never actually, saw them play. That's very ignorant to speak on what you don't know. You made an excellent point on how some people have this belief that players have massively, evolved, without taking into account the advancements in technology/workout equipment, food/supplements, better travel arrangements, improved/more rehab clinics, rule changes, economic opportunities, etc. This generation has it far better than the previous and it should always be that way. My parents generation was hard but, was better than my grandparent's. My generation had it better than my parent's and I'm grateful for that. This generation acts as though, they built the system from the ground up, and everything else, is inferior. The previous generations acknowledged and respected what existed before then, added to the foundation. A perfect example of this is that MJ respects Magic, Bird, Dr. J, Wilt, etc., Despite being called the goat by most. There was a foundation built before he put on a uniform. He just added more to that foundation. If the foundation didn't exist, All the NBA, Greats along with this convo, wouldn't exist. When you're young, you don't know much but, we've all been there if, you've been around long enough to know better. Sorry for the long message.
TODAYS WEAK RULES AND THE LACK PHYSICALITY OF THE GAME, IS WHAT SEPARATES THAT ERA FROM THIS ERA. NO MATTER HOW MUCH PEOPLE CHOOSE TO BE IN DENIAL,,, THESE ARE THE FACTS. AND IF THE PRIOR ERA, HAD THE ADVANCED MEDICAL TREATMENTS OF TODAY,,,, LEBRICK WOULDN'T EVEN BE CLOSE TO KAREEMS RECORD. AND JUST IMAGINE,,,, KAREEMS RECORDS ONLY TAKES INTO ACCOUNT HIS NBA NUMBERS, AFTER THE ABA MERGER,,, IF THEY INCLUDED HIS ABA NUMBERS,,, LEBRICK WOULD STILL BE 15,000 POINTS BEHIND HIM... LMFAO... BACK THEN, AN ACL AND MCL INJURY,,, WAS ALMOST A CAREER ENDING INJURY ... AND AN ACHILLES INJURY WAS A DEATH SENTENCE.... IF LARRY BIRDS BACK AND FEET HAD THE ADVANCED MEDICAL TREATMENTS OF TODAY,,,, HE'D BE AN UNQUESTIONED TOP 3 ALL TIME LEGEND... AND ITS EASIER TO SCORE. BECAUSE OF THE RULES CHANGES. ... WHAT HAS CHANGED IS THE PHYSICALITY.... THE SAME WAY FOOTBALL CHANGED, ONCE THEY CREATED THE BRADY RULES..... YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A QB'S HEAD OFF, NO PENALTY,,,,, NOW,,,, IF YOU BREATH ON ONE OF EM THE HARD WAY, ITS 25 YARDS....
Shehatesjosh Reacts is getting schooled in these comment sections.. 😂😂😂
Dropping a prime Jordan in this era would simply be UNFAIR
The Air Jordan with hair was unfair but the bald MJ would still slay all day.
#FACTS
Mike would shoot 15 ft/gm & avg 40 ppg............EZ!
A constantly pissed off MJ in his prime? That would be unfair.
1000% FACTS !!!!
Don't speak on eras when you don't know anything about basketball before 2000. I bet if you're in a room with Shaq who is arguably the most dominant big man of all time, you wouldn't call him dumb to his face if he told you this Era was easier than back then. Plus, even Jordan shooting from the field is as efficient as a prime lebron going to the rim in today's era, and Jordan played in an Era with a more clogged paint and elite big men. You can't tell me there are any big men in the league today other than Giannis who compare to elite big men like Hakeem, David Robinson, Shaq, Mutumbo, Malone, Alonzo, ect. It would be a lot harder to score in the paint when big men can camp the paint, unlike today where players can't stay in the paint. So it would be harder for Lebron to score his most efficient shot which is at the rim when he's actually going again elite big men with a clogged paint. All I'm saying is if you don't know anything about basketball before 2000, don't talk about eras. We really base the sport off winning, accolades, and stats, without bashing other eras. Only lebron fans discredit older eras. You never heard anyone discredit older eras until Lebron entered in the debate. No one was saying these things during Kobe's time, and Kobe copied all his moves from Jordan and still won back to back rings without Shaq in the toughest conference. So how would Jordan not dominate if people like Kobe were able to torch guys on a nightly basis when Kobe doesn't even have the efficiency and athletic ability as Jordan. Just doesn't make sense
Jordan would be better in this Era and scoring 45 on the good teams and man he is going to be dropping like 70 and 80 on the bad teams easily and remember Jordan's bag for finishing and knowings on where the ball is and who to get it to has no bottom once so ever he would avg 50 to 55 today's game
Breathing is a foul nowadays, and you cannot hog the box ....Jordan would demolish EVERY TEAM. In this Era Jordan would get 8 to 10 rings. Facts. Yet another biased Lebron fan who is too young to even understand basketball.
Thank you someone who knows basketball
And Wilt would have dominated Shaq and the league today even at 40 yrs old. Wilt averaged 50pts/20 reb in one season and they didn't count blocked shots which were double digits and he was way stronger than Shaq. Nowadays the game doesn't have the level of strong men they used to, but they do jump much higher :)
@@leealtman Eh, not impressed by Wilt's stats. When he played they had 8 teams. Total. Big deal. And his "100 point game" was against the second worst of the teams. Also they PLAYED LESS GAMES THAN EVEN THE JORDAN ERA SO OF COURSE HIS AVERAGE WOULD BE HIGHER. Do some research. Not hard to excell with little competition and less games. Smh.
I loved watching this.
It was literally like watching someone go through therapy.
Starts off denying Jordan. And as the video progresses the slow realization with his own eyes that MJ was doing things noone did before him or after him.
There is literally no better player than MJ to have ever played.
This reaction therapy was amazing to watch.
I never got to see Wilt or Russell play. But I got to see Dr J, Bird and Magic and MJ was the best out of all of them.
LBJ had his chance in my eyes but he is an admitted choker
Jordan played like this highlight reel every minute. We were in awe the entire game. We sat down to watch Jordan like a prime Mike Tyson Fight. Every sec was magical.
this, MJ did these things in EVERY game, it was just normal play for him but hes so much better than anyone else he makes it look effortless.
The problem with young heads is they act like us old heads are detached from todays game. The games evolved to a point that guys like Luka and Steph cannot be stopped by modern defence. Just imagine what Bird or Jordan could do today if the current defence can’t stop those guys. You’re allowed to have an opinion but, it’s really not a valid one if you didn’t live through both eras like we did.
I’ve watched from showtime lakers all the way through to this day.
There isn’t a single player that’s come close to Jordan….That’s why the MAJORITY of the world agrees that he’s the GOAT!
This generation of basketball players they're doing SOME of what MJ did in his time simply because he is the pioneer of these spectacular moves.
However if they were to do it in his time especially against the Bad Boys. ...they wouldn't have that killer instinct to persevere because it wasn't a walk in the park like today's game.
Just don't mention Michael with today's players. It was tough for him... it's soft for you
Facts
Facts. Today's league discourages defense with the way the rules are. Even Luka's on record saying it's easier to score in the NBA vs Europe.
They simply don't understand the physicality of the 80s and 90s until the NBA outlawed how defense was played to make offense easy so the game could become massive globally.
FACTS FACTS FACTS
Listening to this young man has me heated. (Real Talk) From the early 2000’s on back the NBA was way better. The shooting percentages, the rebounding, the skill sets, the overall excitement of the game. Not to mention THEY PLAYED DEFENSE!!!!!!! And don’t get me started on these unisex uniforms!!!!! 🤦♂️ This era is SOFT
I completely agree!! These players today (are soft AF).
Let's be honest. Defense was way better in the 80s and 90s. The amount of dominant big guys were unreal. Hard fouling. Inside the paint play was crazy to see with the scoring. And Jordan scored and played like that. Today's era he would average 40 plus if it was the Jordan with that mentality. Today players are more skilled. Big guys are able to dribble between the legs and shoot 3s. Everyone chucks up 3s. But it doesn't make them more elite as an efficient basketball player to say there better than the players in the 90s. It just doesn't make sense to think that way.
Preach!
Even worse is load management. I'm not considering a guy an all time great cuz he averages 20 pts/game in 50 games per year.
You have no idea how amazing defense was on Jordan's era
Magic won 5 titles in a decade, 3 MVPs and 3 FMVP and had to retire still in his prime. He absolutely had a torch and he's absolutely the best PG who ever played basketball.
Magics Lakers dominated a VERY WEAK west...Similar to how LeBron dominated a weak east
Yeah but he got done against teams like Bird's Celtics. Lebron had to leave to make super teams even then. Lebron admitted to choking in the 2011 finals with a super team
Jordan’s accomplishments, in fewer seasons, compared to Lebron, is undeniable
I keep telling people that… 🫡
The MJ vs LBJ debate should end just looking at accomplishments on their 15th yr because that the timespan Jordan got all he had vs How much Lebron got in his 15th.
Jordan Fewer seasons, AND fewer Top 75 Players as Teammates!! No one played with more Top 75 Players than Lebron... and he played way more seasons... yet he still didn't accomplish what Jordan did!!!!!
No Contest!!!!!!
Do you know what is a funny thing? Accomplishments-wise Larry Bird has achieved far more than LeBron in his first ten years in the leauge. And by the way, when Bird was drafted by The Celtics they improved their record from 29-53 to 67-15 and got to the Eastern Conference Finals. This is how impactfull Lary Bird was and it's not only LeBron's "privilege" to make an instan impact on teams. Bird won three straight league MVP awards from 1983-1986 and by his seven year he was already three times NBA Champion. LeBron got his second ring by his tenth year in 2013 after teaming up with Wade and Bosh in Miami and he already had this 2011 Finals meltdown on his resume, not something to be proud of when you consider yourself the greatest player of all time, like he did after 2016 Finals against The Warriors. By the way do you remember the first thing that's been said in "Jordan vs LeBron - GOAT Comparison"? The quote was made by The Chicago Bears legendary running back Walter Payton (RIP) and he said "When you're good at something YOU tell everyone, when you're GREAT at something THEY TELL YOU". Something to think about it
@@yosefyakoby5956 -- On the All-Time list = Bird > Lebron
In an All-Time Draft = Bird > Lebron
As a Bonus... who would you rather take the last shot? Bird or Lebron? IMO = Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron
Basically, the only thing lebron does better than Bird is form Superteams with handpicked, already made Star players! Because the Biggest myth with Lebron is that = He makes everyone better.... LOL!!!!! He makes those Already made Star players WORSE!!!! Then when he loses, he uses them as his "EXCUSE"!
If there is any era easier to score, it's this current era we are in.
Facts
facts
This guy is crazy his takes are just simply unbelievable and crazy
This was Jordan every game. No, no, no -- EVERY game. He played every night and dominated every night.
Lots of players do what Jordan was doing, but with rules that prohibit a lot of contact and hand checking. They couldn't stop him in an era when they could put hands on him. What would he do to the league when defenses literally can't touch him???
The real edge he has (over everyone else) is between the ears. He was the absolute apex predator. He simply would not allow others to beat him. He tore out hearts.
Jordan in this Era would Average 40-45! Space and pace in this Era, he would score all day.
45-50
I agree, MJ would dominate even more than what he did in the 1980s & 90s. He would probably average 45 pts per game. What's interesting is, if LeBron played in the 1980s & 90s like
Shehatesjosh said, would he destroy the league and average 30-40 pts per game? I don't know, maybe, maybe not....Today there was a podcast with Chris Broussard who mentioned LeBron is the 7th or 8th best LA Laker of all-time and the other gentleman was Rob Parker would put LeBron outside the Top 10 LA Lakers player of all-time - and he was serious! Broussard and Parker both agreed that Magic Johnson is the best LA Laker EVER!!
@Bigdic Daddy2 Everyone knows MJ is the GOAT. A lot of millennials after watching video clips from 25-35 yrs ago can see how good he actually was and how he literally dominated other teams. We know how he destroyed the NBA in the 1990s, however, some critics say Michael was unsuccessful in the 1980s. But they're wrong:
1984 NCAA Player of the Year, Olympic Gold medal at the Los Angeles Summer Olympics, drafted by Chicago, played his 1st NBA game.
1985 NBA Rookie of the Year.
1986 Played in just 18 games and came back to the Bulls/Celtics Playoff series who were 40-1 at home during the regular season and MJ scored 49 pts in game 1 and 63 pts in game 2.
1987 & 1988 Slam Dunk Contest Champion back-2-back years, Defensive Player of the Year, MVP
1989 He sunk the Cavs with his famous buzzer beater labelled as "The Shot."
This is just some of the accolades, trophies and awards I can think of at the top of my head. I know there's more!
45 ppg EASILY!
Jordan would average 45 in today’s game without question
What you missing is how CONSISTENT JORDAN was, there is nobody today as consistent as Jordan! Also I’ve noticed that every player in the league today has a weakness but Jordan had NO WEAKNESSES! none!
But there are plenty of players who deliver consistently, they're just consistently worse
@@AstroPatel
😂🤣😂
Exactly!! You hear "lebron does this", "KD does this", "Luka does this" "kyrie can" and I'm like "I've seen all this before, from one person"...
@@lisaac9477 and funny thing is noone of those you mentioned Defend and Jordan was amongs the best.
@@SaraGon15 I agree 100%!! Jordan was on a whole different level.
The thing about MJ was he never took a in game off.. He brought it every game.. Every Game!!!
Nobody is finishing at the rim like mj even today. He's vert combined with the hang time and the giant hands was crazy. He dunked on anybody that stood between him and the rim. His fadeaway was unguardable. His defense was relentless. Again, his hand size was unfair the way he could grip the ball. The 180° and 360° double clutch, triple clutch reverse layups, and the foul is still unmatched. There's guys that every here and there do something that may look like Jordan, but he did it all game, every game. Led the league in scoring essentially 10 years in a row. Won 3 ships, retire almost 2 whole years, go 72-10, win 3 in a row again. It's no disrespect to anyone calling mj the goat.
Here's my take...I watched LBJ and AD sit on the Lakers bench last year in the game that decided if they made the play in or not. Lakers were getting blown out. LBJ and AD we're laughing and cutting up on the bench. Jordan would never do that. He HATED losing. The mentality was very different.
The coldest thing Jordan said and did was saying:
“Clyde Drexler is a better 3 point shooter than I CHOOSE to be”.
Then went off and murdered Clyde in game 1 of the Finals with 35 points and 6 3 pointers in the 1st half.
🐐
I'm just happy to see the younger generations watching the Goat do his work. Like who you like. But I watched all the players since the late 80s until now play. And no one can touch MJ. He wanted to rip opponents souls out of their bodies. And backed up his mentality with his play. Star opponents where terrified to play against him and the Bulls. Was a honor to watch his Airness play.
The thing about Jordan is that this isn't really a highlight video. Any of these highlights could have come from any of his games. He played like that every single game. These weren't Jordan on a good night. They were just Jordan being Jordan.
You drop Jordan in this era with no hand check & without the physicality it was back then taking a toll on his body he would average 50 or more. Jordan legit got clotheslined & tackled out of mid air because they knew they couldn’t stop that man on the court. He also could shoot the 3 ball but chose not to because he felt it took away from other parts of his game. U lose more games coming down court jacking up 3s then if you going to the basket getting fouled or dunking on they head. His midrange game was on point also. Lebron can’t shoot at all his points come in the paint because he lowers his shoulder and bully’s smaller players.
ya, do you think LeBron could bully players like Shaq, the dream, Ewing, hell no. there are no bigs today. with makes it a lot easier to score especially when you include the points you made.
@@ritchierich6133 There's bigs, but they sit behind the 3pt; not clogging the lane like the 80's and 90's. I have trouble watching the NBA today. Zero fundamentals. Just jack up as many threes as you can, drive the lane because the bigs are camped outside. It's just boring
They just don't understand. Jordan would put up numbers and lock a MF down.
All the latest era great players are going to have an asterisk next to their name.
Facts, I've seen Kwai and Butter kill it in the finals with the mid-range. Jordan would be unstoppable.
I'm 52 born n raised in da chi. These clips don't do him justice. MJ has THOUSANDS of these type plays. Game winning shots assists rebounds blocks n steals, nobody comes close. GOAT. I've NEVER SEEN HIM OUTPLAYED. I wish you yungins did get to see full games of his.
Eddie I agree! But most ppl don't know MJ other nickname was the human highlight film. Come home after work and watch ESPN to see Jordan's crazy highlights. This taking off nights to conserve the body Jordan never did this. Youngsters forget this is a 82 game season and which game of the year was he doing all these crazy highlights.
Yes sir! Plus, MJ played the entire game every game. He wasn't on a shit load of PED's like LeBron either. James is on HGH and EPO and STIL dont play a full game.
I’m from the Chi as well. Born in 70. I’ve watched them both play. Jordan had WAY TOO MANY WAYS TO SCORE. The athletes today may be more creative but that’s only because the defense sucks so bad so you are able to be more creative. Jordan had to fight for that and was still unstoppable. If he played today in today’s rules, it would be completely unfair for his opponents. He’s not the first, HE’S THE ONLY ONE to have ever done it. Kobe is the ONLY THING CLOSE to his greatness. I’d like to see a comparison with Bron & Kobe (who I feel is better then Bron). As for someone being better then Jordan in the history (OF ANY ERA)….There is no one.
For almost 9 yrs Jordan never lost 3 games in a row. It's almost statistically IMPOSSIBLE
I’ve watched this probably 50 times I get goosebumps is it because it’s still so smooth or is it because I had the opportunity to live through and watch it thanks for all the memories 23 LeBron did not possess killer instinct he took it to everybody every night
That "Spectacular Move" was the 13th straight field goal he made that game.
And it was in the Finals.
Jordan didn't just play to win.
He also played for his fans.
That's why he's so well-beloved by basketball fans all over the world.
He played 80+ games per season putting on a show for all those people who took the time to watch him play.
And if you ask me, that's way better than players who sit out games despite being healthy.
still a finals record.
@@scottb3034 Last time I checked it was a playoffs record too, not just in the finals.
This!!!!!! I always tell people that and it takes them a second to comprehend 😂😂😂
There is nobody doing what MJ was doing today..that’s an outright lie😂you think Lebron handle the ball better than Magic?😂😂😂😂Magic even shoot free throws way better than Bron and that means he has a better feel on the ball
Facts! lebrons handles are average
and he airballs free throws
You couldn't carry the ball when Magic played. I've seen guys today take 3 or 4 steps with the ball, and then dribble again. They used to call carry if you touched the side of the ball.
@@jonm7888 not to mention all the stutter shots they take nowadays
Bro not just basketball, Michael Jordan is the Greatest Athlete in History. All Sports. Aye I respect how you changed your opinion after you saw video. Most youngstas won't believe what they're seeing with their own eyes. You're only the second person I've seen that changed their Goat opinion. That's a good quality to have man. Respect
Someone who is saying that this era is tougher and have better players then 80/90 cant be taken serious.
I always find it a bit humorous when young people who have a very limited basketball experience makes the comments you make. You’re not being objective at all. I've been an NBA fan since the mid 1970's and coached youth basketball for years. 2 of my 3 sons played competitive basketball through high school here in North Carolina. My middle son even attended camps with Stephon Curry that his dad, Dell Curry, sponsored here in the Charlotte area. My personal top 3 are: 1. Michael Jordan, 2. Larry Bird, 3. Magic Johnson. After the top 3, it’s more debatable to me. I’ve seen everyone over the last 45+ years. IMO, these players had the best BALANCE of FG%, FT%, clutch play, great offense, great defense, makes teammates better, great team play, shares the ball, passing ability, finishing, coachable, high basketball IQ, finds a way to win, has all areas of the basic fundamentals down pat, seeks high % shots FIRST, knows where teammates are on the court at all times, able to score while being fouled, played against tougher competition, played against great defenses. No one today has ALL of these attributes. These 3 are the only players ever to not have any holes in their games at all. Not even Lebron can match this. He flops, gives up on defense (a huge negative), and has choked in too many key games. He couldn’t even get the Lakers to the playoffs in 2022, which was one of the weakest NBA seasons ever. All of these negatives are glaring and brings down his value. To me, only Michael, Larry, and Magic had ALL of these attributes and are (by far) the most clutch and best players of all time. Consistently winning the close games is what separates icon players from everyone else. No players after my top 3 come close to doing it at the level they did. Though today's players have a lot of talent, most players lack most of these attributes and no one has all of them. Defense and team play are almost nonexistent today compared to the 80’s/90’s. Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson (by far) are the most clutch players of all time, did it against the best defenses of all time, and did it during the most talent rich era of all time (80’s/90’s). Jordan had 2 threepeats and 6 championships in 8 years, again, during the Golden Era. There were incredible athletes as well then too. Dr. J, Isaha Thomas, Dominique Wilkins, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, James Worthy, Bernard King, and Sydney Moncteif to name a few. Because of the addiction to three pointer, lack of teamwork, and lack of defense the game of basketball is not nearly as exciting and interesting and games are very sloppy/out of control. It seems that many young people who do not understand the fundamental attributes of the game and haven’t seen players pre -2000 play night in and night out are the ones who claim that Lebron is the best. Older people who have seen decades of the best players and can see Lebrons weaknesses.
General Highlights - czcams.com/video/8M7yBjtx_Ic/video.html
Passing Highlights - czcams.com/video/YbaqbclM08c/video.html
Defense Highlights - czcams.com/video/jGDdDkaxLnU/video.html
I agree 100 percent with you..I've been watching NBA basketball since 88 and it boggles my mind when young people think good players with athleticism and talent only came into the league post 2000..my father has been watching since the 70s and his fav player of all time is Dr.J whom no can say was not an athletic freak with some of the most talent a basketball player has ever possessed
Kids just say anything. They have no filter.
You represent a lot of us, yesorlando05. Thank you so much.
Too many facts here for these kids to comprehend
Youngin, it's ok. We know that he was so good that he looked WAY better than his peers. But there's NOBODY that plays the way Jordan did ..LEAST of all in this cupcake era
Look at Jordan's stats in Washington
YEa he messed up saying Jordan is good because he did these moves 1st. Bro no one does jordan, he's the only one..everyone else can be emulated. Kobe was the closest, which is crazy because that emulation of Jordan made Kobe #2 goat
@@betzalelbenyisrael2527 Look at Lebron's shooting % outside of 3 feet for his career. It's 37% 🤣
Marshmallow era today.
@@roboninja3194 compared to the rest of the league, that's average wit his peers.
Highlights will never actually show how FLAWLESS Jordan's game was.
I can definitely see why Kobe took notes from him.
To say you don't care about what we say about the impact of these older players and how they stack up against these young all stars is crazy. We've been around long enough to see magic, Jordan, LeBron, Curry and your generation just dismisses us like we don't have eyes.
Jordan is better in every facet of basketball than LeBron is and if you don't understand that you don't know basketball it's that simple and it doesn't get any simpler than that also basketball back in the day in particular back in Jordan's day it's a lot better than basketball is now .. most of the players in this era are soft and play very little defense and I hate to tell you there but you go to 10 NBA finals and only walk away with four rings you're not the goat by any means
Bro do you not understand that if you put Jordan on those same teams of lebrons the same out comes will occur and just cause players today aren’t close lining people or slamming On the ground out of mid air doesn’t make them softer or they play less defense the game has just changed
It's amazing some of the ignorant rants you hear about the 80's and 90's era huh? Much more physical and wasn't a 3 fest. NBA today is a joke, boring and nothing but 3's and if you sneeze on a player, foul. This guy is just clueless. There's a video of players who played in both eras some even against both Lebron and Jordan and major majority call Jordan the best ever.
@@shehatesjoshreacts The game has changed for the worse, dude. A bunch of boring 3 pointers, soft defense, less skill, etc.. MJ will always have a greater positive impact no matter what team you switch him with Lebron. And I don't care what anyone says, I'm taking a few points off Lebron's legacy for his whining and flopping...it's embarrassing.
Jordan over lebron. It ain't close. LeBron ain't even better than Kobe I'm sorry. Kobe carried teams that had no business being competitive. LeBron didn't win until he got his friends. He didn't wanna build and train and level up his teammates.
Standing on what you believe = respect. Not seeing Jordan for what he was = disrespect. Open your eyes
JORDAN GOAT 🐐
I was in a bad mood before watching this reaction. This is exactly what I needed, a good comic relief.
What he fails to realize is he changed THE WORLD of basketball, not just an era, and dudes that are playing to this day are remnants of his swagger, he was a basketball genius, meaning whatever ERA he is in, he's GOING TO elevate above his peers because his mindset is better, Bron is HUUUGE, but he doesn't have that swagger, that finesse, them moves, them no looks, the killer instincts, the floats and jukes mid-air...and most of all, he is not that clutch dude....nobody in their right mind would stake their life with a gun to their head on Bron vs. Jordan in the finals...I could go on and on. And guess what, I was there to see the eras...it was just exciting as a mutha and pull you from outside to watch this man play. EVERYBODY stopped what they were doing. My momma would holler out the door, "y'all gonna miss the game!" We'd all look at each other, look at our watches and run in the house. Even Kobe stole from him. Oh, one last thing....that first step left EVERYBODY. Jordan is that dude!
Defense is the biggest difference. This Era is made for everyone to score. You had to play Defense and score.
When MJ left the game at 40 years old, his average that final year in 2003 was 20 points per game. The following year, Lebron came to the NBA averaging 20. Technically, Lebron and MJ both played in the same era. However, Jordan rookie average was 28ppg (1984) and Lebron was 20ppg (2003-2004). In retrospect, Michael Jordan played on and off for 3 decades (80s, 90s, and part 2000s). A young, healthy Jordan would have destroyed Lebron. Back then, Lebron would not be viewed as a superstar averaging 20 as a rookie.
Nuff love to the YG that not only posted this reaction video, also nuff respect to have the due diligence needed to create it! That being said! What tickles me🤣😂🤣😂is when he said WE call MJ the goat is be he was the first to do what he did🤔🧐as if anyone has ever did what he did EVER!!!!!🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣!!!
instead of just talking throughout the whole video about why you think people older than you think Jordan is the GOAT, you missed half of why he is the GOAT. There's about 50 things in this video that no other basketball player has done.
When he said the famous "switch hand drive to the hoop" move was "extra" and "he didn't need to do that."
Made me shake my head. Instead of acknowledging that it was a great move he $h!ts on it. But you know if LeBron did it he would be a god!
I also like how he missed a lot of the start of the video and then says, "these are all JUST dunks."
Just dunks, as he is "flying" over, through and around multiple guys, as they are trying to rip his head off!
I'm done. Peace!
Idc about the opinion on the GOAT debate. What I hate is how a lot of us younger dudes disrespect the league from back then. Bro the league was deep asf once they merged with the ABA . And it was only 24 teams that mean it was stacked and everybody had a realistic chance at the playoffs so you wasn’t getting taking ass teams. It was high level ball Being played .
Also Jordan a only retired one year before Bron came so they played a lot of the same guys. Jordan still played prime shaq , KG , Tim Duncan , Jason Kidd guys who we consider Lebron competition from his earlier years. Think about it Jordan won a ring , mvp and made all defense in 98 at the age of 35. Shaq was in his prime by then and Jordan was still considered by far the better player at the time and people say Shaq has one of the best primes ever.
This right here is an intelligent comment.
2 main rules it was hand checking and no 3 second in the key that made jordans Era harder to play in
Not to mention a regular hard foul then being a tech II in todays game.
When Michael Jordan played point guard, he had 11 straight games of triple doubles are you kidding me 11 straight games
There was players just like lebron in the 90s and we are not talking about them today😂😂 because of jordan
Layup against lakers wasn't "unnecessary" , as jordan explained,he was going up for dunk and as he was in air,he saw "long-armed" sam perkins(his college teammate),therefore he switched the ball to his left hand. Even though Perkins didn't jump,which made the spectacular lay up look "unnecessary", you can see that Perkins stepped in before changing his mind on challenging shot
This kid has no context of anything about Jordan. Just watching random CZcams videos while reacting emotionally.
Thank you
I have been trying to explain that for years.This video was an everyday thing for MJ.Lebron fans don't realize if Jordan would have never retired the first 2 times the stats would not be close.This defenseless league they have now is soft
Didn’t he go on like a 12-0 run by himself at that point? Capped off by that layup?
@@jamesbradley9721 Yes. The "unnecessary" layup was his 13th consecutive FG made. Who was/is doing shit like that in the finals? DA GOAT!!!
If you put LeBron in the 80’s 90’s era, he would struggle slightly more. It was the golden era of big men (mutombo, Olajuwon, shaq, Ewing, mourning, manute bol, mark Eaton, Ralph Samson, Kareem etc.)
70% of LeBrons points come from the paint. Add the fact that there was no 3 second rule. Which allows 3+ players to camp in the paint with no worries. (Don’t forget the physicality, elbows, shoves, hand checks.)LeBron’s percentage outside of 3ft is 36% & late in games it goes down to 20%.
So you add these 3 facts into the equation & you will quickly see LeBron’s numbers would go down significantly.
NOW, put MJ in this era😂 where there are NO REAL BIG MEN(mfs playing 5out.) & a defensive 3 second rule that opens the lane up. Mj also shot 50% on midrange jump shots, even without 3s, he would still average around 40-42ppg. EASY WORK.
Lebron would be as big as Moses Malone and as athletic as Dr J if not Jordan. The 80s would simply have a bigger size bully.
Could you imagine if you put a high IQ player like Bird in today's game. It would be like Jokic on steroids.
@@jeffwilliams2828he's not as athletic as eith of them
@@jeffwilliams2828 We don't even need to discuss defensive 3-sec, hand-checking and all that. Just the stricter 90's dribbling rules alone would bother Lebron big league b/c he travels a ton.
@@TellenJones if you think LeBron wouldn’t do well during a time where flagrant-2’s were sometimes not even considered a shooting foul. Letting LeBron go from soaring tomohawk to Macho Man Leading Elbow dunks, i think you forgot how much he weighs.
Michael Air Jordan is The G.O.A.T. EVER !!!!
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Dude Jordan dunked on some of the greatest hall of famers, He was absolutely clutch.
True stat. MJ had the least productive supporting cast in all of his finals wins of all time. He won a ring with only one other teammate averaging dbl digits (Pip 17 pts). Lebron by comparison has had a top ten supporting cast (pt production) all time. He’s had multiple superstar teammates average dbl digits (20 pts + in some of his finals) in all of his finals wins. LBJ has also had his teammates bail him out (Ray Allen, Kyrie Irvin, D Wade) in clutch situations where LBJ took the shot and bricked it only to have his teammates hit the game winner or crucial shot in a critical moment of the game. LBJ has also missed clutch free throws in his career.
MJ would never!
MJ made all his teammates better..got the very best out of them but at the end of the day the game is about buckets and nobody get buckets like MJ. Bulls weren’t that good but they became great
Bulls was still good when they got built up though all Lebron teams fell off when he left so you can’t say that
Lebrons teams feel off bc the good players bron brought in to win him a chip had short contracts and lebrons salary broke the franchise and they had to rebuild when he left. None of the younger talent that was there after he left learned anything from him to keep it going
@@shehatesjoshreacts bulls were a lottery team before MJ.
The Bulls were good after Jordan's first retirement because of Jordan. He put his team through the fire. He hardened them and didn't just make his teammates better for passing to them. He helped make them all better players individually. And pretty much all of them will say that.
@@coachmikesfilmroom3111 bulls were good because of the roster improvement…and my very first sentence I wrote was how he made them better 😂✌🏽
The game was way more physical back then. The fouls were not called so quickly and easily. The players today get too much freedom with the ball. If Jordan played today, he would average 40-50 a night. LeBron couldn't handle the NBA back then. I agree the game has changed. The game got more open and way more 3 pointers are shot.
Jordan will be league MVP in this era also. His mindset was Kill-mode. I’ve witnessed both eras.
The fact that younger people think athleticism wasn’t t as high then…
I got two words for the youngins who think that Shawn Kemp
It's just plain stupidity. Thinking that in a couple of decades we evolved into superhumans whatsoever
Dude, MJ’s era generally was more physical. It was a center dominated league unlike the perimeter game of today. The refs allowed more contact. The hand was even part of the ball meaning you can literally slap the shit out of someone and the refs won’t call it. Intimidation was also part of defense back in the day especially when it came to the bad boys. Most of todays players wouldn’t be able to handle it mentally. They’d get rattled off their game. You think Curry would be able to handle the Jordan rules mentally in the playoffs vs the bad boys?
You're right. Steph would still be great, but it would've been way harder to get shots off the way they played defense.
@@seymourbutts5277 he'd barely get a shot off. They'd hard foul him to make him think twice, then hand check to keep him from taking any shot. He would've been relegated to the bench as a role player, much like Paxson and Kerr
@@NishalKay Definitely. He would be relegated to a specialist role and saved for specific situations. As far as Jordan, he would be nearly unstoppable in an era where the defense is severely handicapped.
This how you know Jordan is the 🐐 because he own the NBA in 1988 when he won the MVP and defensive player of the year all in the same year
One thing to understand. Players feared Michael. As far as the layup against the Lakers. Michael said he saw copper jump decoded to change up. As far as eras. If you can’t compare than it’s not fair. It was harder fo Jordan because you could hand check push whatever you wanted. So please. Check that one more time. Now at days. You breathe on someone. It’s a foul. Other players have said. He would average over 40. Now at days. And. Jordan let teams never had to go to 7 to win a championship. Period. What you fail to understand. He set the standard. Everyone else is copying him. If you want to compare size. That goes to Michael. Smaller but more aggressive. And. Never quit on his team. Never walked out. Never made excuses. You’re right. A lot of players are doing some of the things he did. But. He did them all. The fact that he did it in a shorter amount of time also gives him the edge. You keep saying you can’t compare. But. You say Lebron would do better in the 90’s. Doesn’t make sense if you say you can’t compare. Watch the video that compares not just numbers. But. Analytics. That makes it even more lopsided. Not here to sway you. But. Numbers don’t lie. Great video though.
Yes. A lot of players are doing what Jordan did now... Because of Jordan's impact on the game. That's the thing. Furthermore, how many of those players are doing 'this' or 'that' from Jordan's game, but aren't doing ALL of what Jordan did in one player? Like nobody.
Facts
A lot of players may be doing what Jordan did. BUT NONE of them are doing all the things that he did all at once.
@@cyber6sapien All at once AND every game on both sides of the floor. No load management trash.
That’s the thing they’re STILL not doing what MJ did
No they're not.
Man, if you saw the Goat comparison between the 2 you saw the stats, the analytics. I've watched the NBA since 71 MJ is the GOAT.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WATCH RE-RUNS OF COMPLETE GAMES THAT JORDAN PLAYED, NOT JUST HIGHLIGHTS. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY UNLESS THE TIME MACHINE IS INVENTED. YOU'LL SEE WHY HE IS THE GOAT. I HAVE THE LUXURY OF HAVING WATCHED BOTH PLAYERS IN THEIR PRIME
I saw both. Jordan would dominate this era. The defense now is waay too soft. Centers don't protect the paint no more MJ would dunk on every body like he did in the 80s and 90s. Yes players are more advance, but honestly name one player in todays game who's game look like his.. on a consistent basis NONE! Bron would be a great player in the 90s, but he is soft. I've seen him flop a lot, cry too much for his size. MJ never. If MJ would played with all the superstar players Bron played with on the same teams MJ would win more especially that Heat team. MJ would have won 6 straight with just them. Man there is only one #1 and that is MJ the 🐐. Keep on researching and look with your eyes not your heart you'll see it real clear after while.
In general the league was more physical back then, a common foul back then could easily be a Flagrant two in today's game, also the three second rule was made in the early 2000's to enable more explosive plays at the rim, back then you had big men camping out in the paint on defense, just giving you a little education lol
@@Prank-Calling-Radio-Stations why are you even here? THE UNIVERSE GALAXY NBA
@@Prank-Calling-Radio-Stations why would I wanna debate with someone who is filled with hate to the point of obsession on the subject?
@@Prank-Calling-Radio-Stations I believe there are several players you can argue with on the 🐐 topic, what's your take? There is no definitive 🐐, it's all opinion at the end of the day
@@Prank-Calling-Radio-Stations serious question, do you do this stuff to get a rise out of ppl?
@@Prank-Calling-Radio-Stations it's all coming together now, that's exactly what you're about, have a nice day
U see players today who watched and wanted to "BE LIKE MIKE"... The moves and style. Bron even wears #23... That should tell u exactly what it is!
Literally no one plays like Jordan today😂.
When you kept saying "I don't know " that summed it up for me!
Don’t comment on an era you’ve never seen.. When you have NBA greats telling you MJ era was wayyyyyyyy better defense that’s all you need to here.. You kids seriously need a history lesson ..
If lebron played in MJs era, he would have only lasted 10 years in the league. He would have crawled away crying
No one today is doing what Jordan has done, and the way he played
the bulls were the worst at the time Michael Jordan joined, he made the team 10x better joining them, his presence made the team better, the harshness he put on his teammates made them all the more better.
People don’t realize that MJ had to be tough on his teammates because Detroit integrated The Jordan Rule’s and used intimidation tactics on Pip and them. Then, they like to say that Jordan’s lucky because he had HOF players and coach. Who do they think made them great? Jordan! They try every which way to discredit Jordan.
@@Mykoveli Exactly!
Also if you wanna know what Jordan would do to lebron, go back and watch every time Kobe and lebron went head to head. Kobe used to dog walk lebron when they matched up.
You made my point: today's players would struggle in that era and the past players would be more dominant today.
This reaction video is the best reaction by far... I like how honest he is with what he saw. His reactions were epic. And I do respect that you have Lebron as one of the GOAT as well and still recognize as MJ the GOAT. Me, it always will be MJ. Very nice reaction. If you do have time... react to the Michael Jordan voyager as well you see highlight you haven't seen before and what MJ would score if he played in this era video.
The one fact that proves Lebron isn't close to GOAT level is how his fans often blame everyone around him when his team didn't get the job done, time and time again. No accountability.
Funfact, Scottie Pippen averaged 19ppg in 6 NBA Finals, shooting 42.5% FG, 25.6% 3PT and 74.7% FT as the 2nd option on the Bulls. This is for the crowd that loves bringing up the fact that Jordan had a "stacked" team.
If you drop Jordan in today's era, you have to factor the extra learnings he'll gain from playing in a later era and if you drop Lebron in the 80s as a rookie you'll have to assume he'll have less learnings without having watched guys like Jordan, Magic, Kobe and etc. So Jordan would add more to his game than what we've seen while you have to imagine Lebron's game diminishes compared to his game today. Players learn off each other, there's a reason why people played different in the later eras, because they watched MJ play.
BINGO! That's what u call a game changer! MJ #23 #GOAT
My professor told our class one time: "You can have the greatest explanation and answer to refute, and rebuke someone's belief; but, in the end, the person will still find a reason not to believe."
Shaq has already explained who was better, and Shaq played with both. YOUR OWN EYES demonstrate who is better. The only thing I hear from your mouth are excuses. All you do is give excuses.
Ron Artest played against Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron. And he said Jordan. Shaq said Jordan. Tracy McGrady said Jordan.
The game today makes it easier to look great bro. You can’t hardly touch anyone anymore. Jordan would drop 45 easy today. Watch the court while he’s operating; the lanes are so clogged yet he’s still getting there.
I’m not even an old man. Grew up watching the 2000s
My guy here’s a little surprise for you. Most of the top ten players at their position is from MJ era. They were better at playing hoop 😂✌🏽
Bro it’s because they already played other players are gonna surpass them dwade surpassed players from back then
@@shehatesjoshreacts no 🤣😂
MJ just moved different. Dude was somethin else. GOAT.
The big difference between lebron and jordan is lebron is respected by almost everyone in the league and Jordan was feared by everyone.
I am a Jordan fan that respects the numbers and longevity that is Lebron. My deciding factor is excitement, for a lack of better terms. Any time I watch Jordan, I get butterflies, I get that itch to play, that desire to "Be like Mike". When I watch Lebron, I don't. Not to take away from Bron, but that's just me. When watching clips 20-40 years old brings you this inexplicable joy and excitement like you're still a kid watching it happen "live", that's real. The GOAT is the reason basketball is what it is, and inspires people to go out STILL and play. That's my x-factor, if you will, in this debate.
NOW, if people are being honest, the biggest factor when it comes down to games, seasons, etc. etc, Lebron in 2016, specifically games 5, 6 and 7, was the greatest player ever (strong argument). The thing is, he played both ends of the floor, every second of every minute in those 3 games, and it paid off. The thing IS that Jordan did that all 13 seasons with the Bulls ( 12 excluding the broken foot, year 2 ) and it showed; his scoring: the best. Defense: elite. Hustle: unmatched. Competitive drive: insatiable. If Bron could do that for more than 13 seasons, and he hasn't even come close, let's be real here, he would be more widely regarded as the GOAT, I think. But he didn't, and can't now. His longevity has been from his work ethic, rest and knowing his limits; Jordan didn't seem to have limits. Broken foot? I come back and lead my team to playoffs. Mid range is good, but could be better? Best mid-range of all time. 3's are weak? I enjoy the thrill of beating someone anywhere on the court, so I'll hit 6 3-pointers in 1 half and let it be known, no one is "like Mike". Defense is lacking? One of the best defenders in his position, ever. Need him every game? Plays 82 games a season, happily.
Jordan is the GOAT, for me, and arguably just outright.
Mike had a season of 32 8 and 8. Lebron isn't a better passer he's a more willing passer. Mike could dish them out if he wanted to but when you can score the way he can score why would you worry about passing. Jordan would terrorize this league today. Nobody gives it to you on both ends of the floor than Jordan did and he had the stamina and durability to do it every night for all 82. Nobody playing now is like that. Add his mentality and his skill and ability and it's over for the league. There are players doing some of the things Jordan did but no one is doing all the things Jordan could do. The things he could do because of his hands by itself makes it a large number of things that he did that no one else can even if they tried.
yeah for all of Lebron's "prowess" he averages only 1 more assist in his career and that's taking into account the triangle offense which spreads assists around by design AND jordan's later years when his assists did dip. Between like 1984-1997 he was in the high 6 apg and lebron's career is 7.3. Jordan is was underrated as a passer.
😂😂😂😂I feel like at different points during the video you were arguing with yourself 😂😂😂😂
Mj s era was more physical and the eastern conference was harder then Lebron s western conference
Lebron struggles against good defensive Centers. The 90's was full of them. The real reason The cavs came back to beat Warriors in 2016 is because of the injury to Andrew Bolgut.
I was never the biggest lebron fan. But I at one point was interested to see how well the Heat would do with the Big 3 so I paid a little more attention. I knew this self claimed goat wasn't really bout that life when they would play the Pacers and the Heat made FUCKING ROY HIBBERT look like an all time great defensive center. Since they wanted to compare lebron to MJ so much, I would visualize how Jordan played his game and superimposed it on lebron to see the differences. I noticed when Jordan was driving to the basket, I knew what areas of the floor he could elevate from and dunk on the center or whoever was in the paint. Again, lebron and these dudes are making Hibbert look HOF-ish. James is driving to the basket and I'm saying "ok, Mike is taking off from there" while lebron is just dribble, dribble, jump into Hibberts chest then lose the ball. One thing that used to piss me off was that stupid "verticality" rule where a center could jump straight up in front of a defender and not get called for a foul. Even with that silly rule, there were times where I thought lebron should've put Roy's head thru the hoop but it never happened.
Oh my I thought I was the only one that knew that they really forget that he left in game 4 iggy hurt in the same game was hobbled the rest of the playoffs and green suspended for game 5 but they blame curry and the same people will tell you about Ky and love was hurt to 🤔
What's a better 3 point play, the 3 point shot or the 2 point and a foul? Jordan didn't need to shoot 3's to get 3 points. The fouls that he gets driving in the basket puts a lot of pressure on the defense. Pretty soon you gonna run out of fouls to give by the time you get to the 4th quarter. We all know Jordan pace's his scoring for the first 3 quarters. Everyone knows that Jordan owns the 4th quarter.
Exactly Mike had a switch and he could turn it on whenever he felt like it.
I'm an "old head" and I agree that many of my generation do discredit lebron's accomplishments. Most of the posts I've read they actually say that they don't watch anymore because they don't like the way the game is played now. I feel like if you don't watch your opinion doesn't mean much. Ive watched all of both guys careers and to not have lebron in the top 2 is ridiculous. He has had an amazing career. His peak was longer than Jordan's although not as spectacular. As for my opinion on who is better it's Jordan. There's is literally nothing lebron can do that Jordan couldn't and with more athleticism and grace. As far adapting to each other's eras both would do well. Lebron's numbers would go down in Jordan's era due to the physicality but he would adapt. Jordan on the other hand would probably have an increase in his without the physicality, by how much...... who knows. For me 2 things really separate them, Jordan's step on their throat mentality and his work ethic. I've seen lebron take a ton of plays off on defense but never in his entire career did I see Jordan take a play off. His will to compete is unrivaled.
Close games Michael Jordan wins every time. Best clutch player ever
SAY BRO A COUPLE MORE HUNDRED TIMES!!!
Curry don’t play no defense 😂and I hope you know since 2005 the game of basketball isn’t the same. They changed the game to allow the small player to dominate…Curry? Nash? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Curry definitely plays defense. Is he elite? No. But he definitely isn’t terrible, nor does he Lack effort.
@@TheIcemanthomas he’s terrible stop the 🧢
MJ was 6-0 in the NBA Finals. Fucking never Lost in an NBA Finals. He might just be the Greatest Player in any team sports history Regardless of Era.
They would both be amazing in each era
The old Era might not be better, but two facts are true, it was harder to score back then, and Jordan is better than anyone to ever exist.
27:38 I love this moment because I went through it myself like 2 years ago. I was that dude, saying Lebron's 1a, thinking I had grown up witnessing greatness. And I wasn't wrong that I had grown up witnessing greatness, it's just that I started watching all the MJ videos on CZcams and realized Lebron is 1b.
Man, I hate to do it, and I respect your opinion, but for me personally it is very hard and, at certain subjects, even impossible to overlook things like disappearing in crucial/clutch moments, especially when you're supposed to be a leader. I didn't really like the way Larry Bird was playing but he never ever underperformed in big moments and in most times than not he proved his clutchness. And this ain't LeBron's strength, or should I say, it's one of his weaknesses, lack of performance in clutch. To me his 2011 Finals inexplicable meltdown is a huge stain on his resume that disqualifies him from even being considered to be as great as MJ. Remember how he was nowhere to be found in fourth quaters of that Dallas series? He scored overall 18 fourth quarter points in SIX GAMES!!! Now one thing is trying and failing, but to not even try is actually a bigger failure. So as I said, even if LeBron is considered to be more complete player than Bird, and maybe he is, in terms of all-time greatness I'd put Larry higher than LBJ.
Peace ✌️
@@yosefyakoby5956 Michelin star chef right here. You cooking bruh.
It's easier to score today..he's an entertaininer and a spectacular showman. That's why he did it.
No one plays with this kind of intensity and success nowadays.
Let that sink in.
If you'd ever listen to Jordan he said the reason for the hand switch vs the Lakers because he thought Sam Perkins was going to try to block him
This kid would be talking over Jordan and not listening.
Witnessed both. Jordan more dominant offensively and defensively than Lebron. This isn't debatable. If you watched full MJ games you would know this. Also, I think MJ in his prime is averaging 45-50 pts a game or whatever he wishes to average in today's no defense, cant touch perimiter players or it's a foul, wide open lane to the hoop, game of basketball.
I just said the same thing! In todays league Jordan is averaging 50 plus. You can find several stats and areas where you can say MJ is better than MJ but you cannot make any case where Lebron is better than Jordan and the “era’s” conversation is bs. Todays league and even people are soft af. You can’t say everything was better back then but people were definitely harder and more competitive
Iverson and Jordan was scoring scoring averages way better than anyone just coming in their first year.
If we had a draft where you could pick anyone in NBA history, MJ would be my number 1 pick. He played for the Bulls 25 years ago; yet, his game looks from the future.