Nurburgring Hot Hatch Battle - Clio 197 vs. 306 GTi6

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  • čas přidán 1. 09. 2017
  • On board at the Nurburgring with Alex and Matt in the closely matched Clio 197 and 306 GTi6. Neck and neck throughout and huge amounts of fun!
    Clio 197
    - Standard engine
    - Standard interior
    - H&R springs
    - Toyo T1R tyres
    306 GTi6
    - Standard engine
    - Stripped interior
    - Uprated shocks, springs, torsion bars & rear arb
    - Nankang NS2R tyres
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Komentáře • 106

  • @rhysowen5595
    @rhysowen5595 Před 5 lety +41

    Couldn't take my eyes off the footwork, especially the Pug's. Amazing. I wish I could drive like that. I feel like my 197 doesn't get used properly.

  • @cemsarioglu5947
    @cemsarioglu5947 Před 6 lety +65

    Wow pure old school hot hatch fun. I love the NA engines ain’t a turbo fan myself. Congrats.

  • @jrr667
    @jrr667 Před 5 lety +37

    In my opinion the 306's chassis is one of the best of its time. The clio seems to handle a bit like a 205 with massive oversteer. Great driving to both, with regards to the 306's driver. Cheers from France :)

  • @z06dave
    @z06dave Před 5 lety +8

    That was awesome driving from both. Just shows anyone can enjoy a race driver feel even with cheap hot hatches.

  • @maXXik1337
    @maXXik1337 Před 5 lety +6

    Those camera switches between cars are great. Footwork aswell, some real driving skills right there.

  • @Johnacles
    @Johnacles Před 6 lety +22

    Great video! Left foot braking in the 306 in on point!

  • @yellowledbutter
    @yellowledbutter Před 5 lety +20

    Lovely to see these little croissants getting driven on their door handles :)

  • @simondanylyk9256
    @simondanylyk9256 Před 5 lety +7

    Takes me back to my xsara vts. Absolutely sick

  • @testacorsa150
    @testacorsa150 Před 6 lety +26

    This was awesome to watch, and it makes me miss my old 306 even more. I bought it to race on the ring, but it was too worn out and had to go. Sadly in Denmark they are so rare, and only one is currently for sale - yes one as in 1! Mine was a ph1, and I want one of those again! RIGHT NOW lol

  • @MonsterrPL
    @MonsterrPL Před 5 lety +1

    This is hell of a driving! Nice, shows why we love hothatches!

  • @sebastienloriau8942
    @sebastienloriau8942 Před 5 lety

    awesome ! now that's what I call having real fun ! great great video. I had a good time watching it.

  • @mmelling4410
    @mmelling4410 Před 5 lety +5

    Absolutely love how this video's been made.epic 😎😎😎😎

  • @petejupp7654
    @petejupp7654 Před rokem

    Great drive by both of you yet again. Great vid also. 👍

  • @kennysaunderson5971
    @kennysaunderson5971 Před 4 měsíci

    Love my gti6, had it for 15 years.

  • @mortyst290
    @mortyst290 Před 5 lety

    Both brilliant hot hatches, I was that enthralled I nearly slavered on the screen😂😂😂

  • @LincolnRobinson
    @LincolnRobinson Před 4 lety

    I’ve owned two 6s and always wondered what the 197 was like. Clearly not in the same league! Awesome vid! Great driving

  • @off-roadrcaddict4572
    @off-roadrcaddict4572 Před 5 lety

    Great vid. Did this in my Renault modus 1.2 turbo and kicked ass lol

  • @ej22_gc86
    @ej22_gc86 Před 5 lety +3

    This is inspiring:)
    I’m too young to drive a real car (though sometimes I get the chance to drive for a bit in the country) but this only encourages me to get a car with a manual when I’m old enough
    Now I wish I can sort my dusty G27’s software out...

  • @JamesHurd
    @JamesHurd Před 4 lety

    That looked a lot of fun guys great driving :D

  • @thebikerepairshopformby
    @thebikerepairshopformby Před 6 lety +4

    Nice driving boys, great pedal work 👍

  • @igorczubacki2713
    @igorczubacki2713 Před 5 lety +2

    I would love to get skills like You guys, cheers

  • @Quattro_Joe
    @Quattro_Joe Před 4 lety

    Awsome lap from the 2 of you

  • @ivanlazarevic78
    @ivanlazarevic78 Před 5 lety

    I kind of envy you when I see that footwork in that PUG.Why the hell I cant drive like that?Great drive guy.Love that cars also

  • @fallfromgrave
    @fallfromgrave Před 4 lety

    multiclass racing

  • @fluflon
    @fluflon Před 5 lety +3

    Le gars en 306 pilote bien mieux que l’autre avec ca clio belle vidéo

  • @Greasemonkey1794
    @Greasemonkey1794 Před 5 lety +1

    brilliant lap lads

  • @danielhurman2927
    @danielhurman2927 Před 6 lety

    Really enjoyed this! Definatly in my top three 3 fav ring vids! I need to go there badly

  • @fiestastguy1289
    @fiestastguy1289 Před 5 lety

    Wow guys your videos are awesome. Always thought of going to the nurburgring but dont know if i would like to take the ST on track haha

    • @morrowind107
      @morrowind107 Před 5 lety +1

      Can't go to the ring and don't drive there. I took it slow, and just driving around the track is very fun.

  • @yellowledbutter
    @yellowledbutter Před 5 lety +1

    GTi6 looks lighter on its feet but 197 looks a bit more composed - 6:35 being a case in point :) :)

  • @Bassemann87
    @Bassemann87 Před 6 lety +1

    😍

  • @traceypotts9425
    @traceypotts9425 Před 5 lety

    Go get him lad drive it drive it

  • @mendadevalli
    @mendadevalli Před 5 lety

    Increible ese 306...

  • @sergiotrescientoseis6725
    @sergiotrescientoseis6725 Před 6 lety +6

    244/5000
    Boys!!!! I love your comparison, I am from Spain I currently own a 306 GTI-6 and in its day I was about to buy a clio sport 197 I really liked your video! Thank you very much for sharing your experience.

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 6 lety +2

      We're glad you enjoyed the video Sergio. We'll be uploading more featuring the 2 cars soon!

    • @sergiotrescientoseis6725
      @sergiotrescientoseis6725 Před 6 lety

      By the way, at the end of the circuit when the 306 overtakes the clio. the clio loosen gas I suppose not?
      I'm glad that soon you get more and I really like your piloting! especially that point heels
      Keep going :)

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 6 lety +1

      Yes at the end the Clio let off the accelerator to let the 306 pass. The acceleration of the cars is very very close!
      Thanks for your support!

    • @sergiotrescientoseis6725
      @sergiotrescientoseis6725 Před 6 lety

      Soys fantastic, By the way I liked the BMW Driving too!
      keep going! Thank you so much for sharing it!
      A greeting.

    • @LorenzoClara97
      @LorenzoClara97 Před 6 lety

      Camber and Combustion have you ever tried a 106 rallye/gti 16v or a saxo vts 16v?
      What is yout best btg time with the 306? Its is way too prone to lift off oversteer or it is manageable on high speed turns?

  • @andreaslambrou7096
    @andreaslambrou7096 Před 5 lety +1

    i really wanna see how you both drive a rear wheel drive car, just to see what lines you take

  • @gusmodelmaker
    @gusmodelmaker Před 5 lety +1

    Props to the Clio-driver for adjusting its dashboard-clock to the local time over there *sorry for the troll*

  • @plbdiecast2301
    @plbdiecast2301 Před 6 lety +42

    PEUGEOT 306 IS BEST

  • @julio_ae112
    @julio_ae112 Před 6 lety +6

    is the 306 passive rear steering enable or disable? great driving!

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 6 lety +4

      Julio Isnard thanks! In this video the rear steering is enabled. In the recent Nurburgring videos from April this year it is disabled.

    • @ryanmarshall3749
      @ryanmarshall3749 Před 5 lety

      @@CamberandCombustion how do you enable it and disable it?

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 5 lety +1

      @@ryanmarshall3749 by swapping the rubber components (which flex and allow the passive rear steering) for solid components which do not flex.

  • @ira8999
    @ira8999 Před 4 lety

    Cuantos cv lleva ese 306 GTI? Imagino que más de.los 167 de serie...Buen video.

  • @lucywucyyy
    @lucywucyyy Před 4 lety

    you guys downshift fast af

  • @jeancharlesrabaux5658
    @jeancharlesrabaux5658 Před 2 lety

    Yes 306 y love it the cars in verie good cars for mie

  • @308Doctor
    @308Doctor Před 6 lety

    Does it make sense to change 306gti to Clio rs? Is the increase in power large given the difference in value?

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 6 lety +1

      Mr. Vtec it depends what you want from the car. There isn’t much difference in the way of straight line performance. The difference is in the way that the cars handle, the 306 is more loose and sensitive to lift off oversteer whereas the Clio feels more planted to the road but is still adjustable with use of the throttle.

    • @JN-qj9gf
      @JN-qj9gf Před 5 lety +1

      I went from a GTi-6 to a 3 200 RS - for pure fun there's not much in it. Clio has ridiculous grip and brakes (more track car out of the box) and the GTi-6 has this Jekyll and Hyde transformation from refined to lift-off oversteering lout (lots of character).
      200 was a bit quicker in a straight line but that's not what these cars are about.
      My GTi-6 was falling to bits though (aside from drivetrain) - and both cars are very rare where I live. Clio is newer, safer and more reliable, plus those hardcore seats, widebody, brakes and suspension are hard to deny.

    • @308Doctor
      @308Doctor Před 5 lety

      I changed my xsara vts to the Clio RS3 and I'll tell you, it's a completely different car, its handling and brakes are amazing.

  • @piotrmalewski8178
    @piotrmalewski8178 Před 4 lety +1

    I can' believe that you were overtaken by VW Scirocco at caruselle... at that point of the track, the VW's engine should have burned all of it's engine oil!

  • @BarneyWobba
    @BarneyWobba Před 5 lety

    Hahaha nice :D

  • @hi2lenduffy837
    @hi2lenduffy837 Před 5 lety +1

    I miss my gti6 it took so much abuse for so long

  •  Před 4 lety

    Very entertaining, now, my mazda 323F V (z5) as standard, enters curves just as fast, with 88cv ...
    Just kidding xDD
    LIKE !!!!!!

  • @PedroCampos-yb2xv
    @PedroCampos-yb2xv Před 3 lety

    french cars have the best handling. they know how to build chassis with rear torsion bar...

  • @lucywucyyy
    @lucywucyyy Před 4 lety

    no karrussel boo!

  • @hugoboss8786
    @hugoboss8786 Před 5 lety

    Where are the 30hp difference?

  • @jeanbidule4959
    @jeanbidule4959 Před 3 lety

    best 405 MI16x4 renault 21turbo quadro super best RENAULT SAFRANE BITURBO

  • @alfamonk
    @alfamonk Před 3 lety

    nice race. Clio power/weight should be significantly better than 306 no?

  • @jeancharlesrabaux5658
    @jeancharlesrabaux5658 Před 2 lety

    306 just one compressor dimma is sure the bomb cars suspension sport big frein the bomba the cars trein arriere the 309 gti sooo good yeeee

  • @willsmith9767
    @willsmith9767 Před 5 lety +4

    Didn't like just so the likes stay at 197

  • @BMWfan91
    @BMWfan91 Před 4 lety

    Warum Mph nicht Kmh?

  • @floranhupscher272
    @floranhupscher272 Před 2 lety

    Oef, imperial

  • @abelgarcia2068
    @abelgarcia2068 Před 3 lety

    The BEST 306

  • @chrismc1977
    @chrismc1977 Před 4 lety +1

    197 no quicker despite +30hp. Shows how newer hot hatches became heavier over time.

  • @davidl868
    @davidl868 Před 3 lety

    306 S16 in France not gti

  • @jean-brandinegaming9363

    Mouais je voudrais bien voir ça contre une Clio 3 RS Cup phase 2, qui sort vraiment ses chevaux et à un châssis de dingue, je pense que la 306 serait loin derrière du genre 30s au tour à pilote égal.

  • @DaWhatEva
    @DaWhatEva Před 5 lety +1

    The Clio has to be defect, the driver of it not pushing or that 306 is tuned to at least 200 hp. Otherwise it's not explainable that the Pug can keep up like this.

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 5 lety +1

      DaWhatEva DaWhatEva we can confirm both drivers were pushing and both engines are standard in this video - see video description for specs. On paper the 306 is only 30bhp down and 197s are known for not making full power out of the factory. The 306 is also lighter.

    • @DaWhatEva
      @DaWhatEva Před 5 lety

      @@CamberandCombustion I used to own a 306 (just an XSi) myself and now own a Clio 200. So, I know a bit about these cars. I really doubt you can compensate 30hp and the missing revs by at best 150 kg in weight difference. There's a reason why you see so many 197/200 and only very few 306 around there and that while the 306 would surely be the cheaper option.

    • @DWTSVIDS
      @DWTSVIDS Před 5 lety

      @@DaWhatEva well if the the 306 is lighter then 1045kg after stripping it actually has a better power to weight ratio. So its very well possible that they're close in straight line performance

    • @lukefoley8606
      @lukefoley8606 Před 5 lety +3

      Mate you have no idea what good gti6 is like . There giant killers end off!

    • @lukefoley8606
      @lukefoley8606 Před 5 lety

      Renaults sports good cars but common. 306 gti6 or rallyes are just as good but people don't know exist sometimes 😂 also people hate on peugeot but forget they make some of the best hot hatches about.....

  • @antonyredfern7474
    @antonyredfern7474 Před 4 lety

    306 driver needs rollcage. if u have a accident in that 306 ur dead.

  • @yordiferreira9091
    @yordiferreira9091 Před 5 lety

    Quien diferencia un Clío normal de un sport f1 etc... por dentro? Nadie son iguales 🤣

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 5 lety

      Creemos que los Clios de F1 tienen asientos Recaro en el interior, pero no estamos seguros de qué más los diferencia

    • @yordiferreira9091
      @yordiferreira9091 Před 5 lety

      Camber and Combustion Gracias es algo obvio... unos asientos y ya tenemos un coche para chavalines sin ánimo de ofender pero se podían esforzar más en crear un coche.

  • @piotrmalewski8178
    @piotrmalewski8178 Před 4 lety

    Please turn off the image stabilisation next time. It looks awfull and pains to watch. Oldschool camera shaking is better.

    • @CamberandCombustion
      @CamberandCombustion  Před 4 lety

      We've used GoPros for this with the image stabilisation off. We've found that under various conditions such as vibration etc the video just distorts like that unfortunately.

  • @b0r1s73
    @b0r1s73 Před 5 lety +4

    Peugeot is winner
    Peugeot is best
    Renault is shit