My Family Expects Me to Forgive My Ropist Brother After What He Did to My Fiancée Under Their...
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- My Family Expects Me to Forgive My Ropist Brother After What He Did to My Fiancée Under Their Own Roof.
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My response to the mom wanting forgiveness is “my forgiveness is that he got to live that day, no more than that”
Forgiveness is not a free pass
Hard agree. "Is he breathing? Then there is my forgiveness, do not dare ask more of me than that."
@@ESPHMacD "I can always resend that forgiveness if you'd like"
And that's more forgiveness than he deserves
@@ESPHMacD "My forgiveness is that he is here instead of a cage."
How is his brother even alive, I feel like the betrayal of your own brother doing that rather than a stranger would make me see red.
Damn, his family stopped him
"8 women" ie ambulance chasing / regret snuggle
Because he is a coward, who comes to Reddit and makes a story instead of a well crafted plan, when he knows where the guy lives, and who he is
@@billcutting2681no. Because if he kills his brother,he won't be there for his fiancee and even if what he did was the right thing,his own family might press charges
i mean op did say he beat the shit out of him, if he does anymore, he will be arrested and his gf will be alone
The fact the parents defended the brother really shows some family doesn’t deserve the gathering they think they’re saving in their final moments.
Not justifying the parents but from the sounds of the story the mother did not believe it even happened. Or if it did most likely believed the other son that he was having an 'affair' with his brothers gf rather than what he actually did.
Then slowly convinced her husband of the same.
I have sadly met plenty of parents who turn a blind eye to their children's wrong actions and stay in denial.
@@user-ix7rj3pc7r Yep, I personally have some shit in my extended family that's more f'ed up than this story. And the parents of the perpetrator also refuse to see what evil their son has done. Even took him in their home after he was released from prison.
I think those parents can't face the truth because the truth is that those parents probably had a big part to play in not raising their kid right. They would have to acknowledge their own responsibility in creating a monster.
YOU SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO RECONCILE WITH ABUSERS. FAMILY OR NOT
Amen. Yet, it's sad and disgusting how that's been (and sometimes still is) a generational pattern in some families. Never talk about it, never hold the abuser accountable, just try to rug sweep it to protect the family reputation. I've gotten to see that ish in action first-hand. When I tried to go to my aunt (abusive father's sister) about how said abusive father treated me, she gave me some weak sauce excuse of "That's just how he is". I eventually called her tf out because I know she was once the silenced victim in the family and she had the bold-faced audacity to try and do it to me. Didn't go the way she hoped when I brought that hypocrisy on her part up.
If it's true, it's insane how redditor's commenymade them look into his history and actually get him convinced. Rare justice
We all know those 8 others are all lying
@@mortaldao8044 why are you like this?
@@verakrot"We all know those 8 others are all lying."
Op: 8 victims, including my fiance.
Hold on, he might be on to something.
@mortaldao8044 you are far more likely to be graped than be falsely accused of it. 8 accusers means he did it, end of story. You don't get that many accusations from nowhere. Guy is a grapist.
@@jericho5615 in addition it's not easy to get someone actually convicted of grape. There have to be evidence, eye witnesses, proves that he was there and then. If he was found guilty on all 8, they must had plenty of papers on him.
The people who insist victims forgive their attackers are the ones who scream the loudest when THEY become victims.
I wonder how those ugly parents would feel if forced to take in a bunch of crooks because they "have nowhere to go"...
Brother must’ve been the golden child. In their attempt to protect one guilty son they lost all their kids so enjoy what’s left of your family. Awful family to even ask that of OP. The older brother was lucky he was alive or not yet in prison.
He doesn't have to be a golden child. Parents often have blinders on when confronted with monstrous things their kids do.
That's not necessarily true ...
Not necessary..They must have simply done that to save their reputation because they might be afraid if this news about their eldest leaks out they might be accused for bad parenting(just their thought).....Could have been this☝🏻🤷🏻♀️
His brother is a monster, but op is with no doubt a good man. Happy to know that all victims got justice.
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The brother's life in prison will probably turn into a death sentence if the inmates find out why he's in there
The justice was too late imo
The judge probably thought that the brother can be happy to be still alive.
Also the sister is a hero and badass in that story. Handling such a dance between opposing sites in the same family is hard.
This reminds me of my dad. My uncle got arrested years ago for molesting (possibly more) his own children. Yet I still remember him always being around growing up, me being alone with him as a kid and never being told about what he did till I got older. I got so mad at my dad that he risked all of our safety for his disgusting brother.
There also was a situation not too long ago where my uncle, his new wife (new as in not his original who’s kids he molested). At the wedding they had a little 5 year old girl and apparently their mom disappeared and now they worked with child services to adopt her. They are also the most impulsive liars you will ever meet and my dad still trusts what they say. After the wedding I asked my dad for their address so I can call CPS, I said if they’re actually working with child services, there won’t be a problem, but if they’re not and that little girl is at risk of being touched/roped than I didn’t want to risk it. My dad flat out refused to, and he was the only one in my family still in contact so it took months till we found out where he worked and I called CPS.
Luckily the little girl got taken away, but apparently the neighbors had reported seeing him touching the little girl (they didn’t know his history) 😭 I hope she can be safe and heal from that. I can never forgive my dad though.
Also, when I told my dad I had called CPS on them he said “I knew you wanted to tear that family apart”.
That’s horrible. Thank you for trying to save that little girl.
Dude I'm so sorry he's your dad
@@anubishound8179 ya, I love my mom but I don’t go home very often 😅
@@deztheray8935bro that’s downright insane, I’m sorry but what is wrong with your dad coz that’s just nasty 😭
Asking him to forgive a criminal brother is crazy. What he did was a choice of badness. He doesn’t get a free pass. He tried to SA his fiancee and was caught red handed. Then the parents foolishly supported him. Forgiveness in this case wouldn’t help but being investigated and put on rehab
Rehab => *Prison
The thing is - even if OP wanted to forgive his brother, it's not his place to decide whether to forgive him or not. OP's fiancee was the one his brother assaulted so it's ultimately up to her whether or not to forgive and forget. OP shouldn't forgive unless his fiancee does. She's the one that can choose to forgive him or not. Tbh I doubt that he'll be forgiven by OP and his fiancee - I wouldn't forgive him if I were in OP or his fiancee's position.
I disagree, his brother broke OP's trust in him by betraying him with an attempt to SA his bride to be. Breaking that brotherly bond of trust is a separate enough injury that OP's forgiveness should be separate from his fiancee's forgiveness instead of a package deal.
What about the gf's "trust" in OPs brother not to try and s assault her? What about breaking the bond OP mentioned about his gf and his brother being close until his brother attacked her? OPs GF is the victim here, not the brother, not the OP. The ACTUAL victim of SA.
You lost me. Even if op's fiance DID forgive that monster I'd never forgive him absolutely not. Even if the assault wasn't directed to him. Op is still a victim by proxy. His own brother cause him such chaos and trauma that most definitely counts as a victim as well. To live with that monster and to now know how much of a monster he was. That's traumatic.
@raelynm3902 Op is a victim by proxy. He lost a brother and a hero asks found out the horrible truth that his brother is a monster. And to witness him in the act. He didn't even hear it from someone. He WITNESSED the love of his life be sexually assaulted by his own brother. If that's not traumatic I don't know what is. Maybe his being a victim isn't on the same wave length as Op's fiance, but don't cast out his feelings like that! They were BOTH VICTIMS.
@@raelynm3902I don't recall saying that her forgiveness wasn't something that was needed. Just that OP isn't automatically required to forgive his brother if his fiance does. Even if she is a saint and forgives the injury done to her that doesn't mean OP should be required to forgive him 'because he wasn't actually the injured party anyway so its not his decision'. He was an injured party and he shouldn't be obligated to forgive that injury if his fiancee decides to forgive the injury done to her. They both have to separately agree to forgive the guy for him to be let off the hook for his awful actions.
If it’s anything like the “communities” I know, I think the mother just wants to save public shame and would rather sacrifice her son and his fiancée than the family’s reputation. Well now she’s got no sons and a bucketful of community shame to contend with.
How the brother is free
He should be rotting in jail
are you referring tthe first mentioned in the post? the OP had already addressed that
Something I like about this story is that the OP thought of his brother doing it to others through reddit itself, and posting was the reason he actually got to avenge the victims and his wife
Edit: I mean that the redditors suggested the brother did it to others since the brother attempted to do it under the same roof as the OP and many other family members
Thank god for the people who were smart enough to recognize that.
I gotta give OP credit for not knocking out his mother's teeth when she said it's time to forgive him and also at the fact that she's been covering for his brother all this time.
The brother sounds like a predator and this was not his first time.
The only problem was that he got caught, his not sorry his only sorry he got exposed.
What an awful family (The people supporting the brother)
golden child
That's why you press charges. For op's gf sake too. Because deep down she might feel op is part of the family that covered up what happened. Have a police file.
Op's lawyer is right. There was no evidence of what the brother did, but there is obvious evidence of what he did
not in this case. Rape/Sexual Assault cases have low conviction rates, and since it's his word vs. hers scenario, there is a large chance the brother would've gotten away(especially because the parents would've most likely defended him) while OP would've gone to jail for certain because of the visible evidence of the assault.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 The damn shame of the low conviction rate is because bastard females lie about being sexually assaulted, groomed, or raped. It puts the real victims in a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" scenario.
Brother would never make it out of town if that was my fiancee..
Forget out of town, he wouldn't have made it out of the house
@@sharkeatinpizza Forget the house, bro wouldn't make it out of his room.
@@ariaslackOr the bed
OP and his fiancée were so brave to overcome this trauma, and it really sucks that OP's family weren't supportive. But massive shoutout to OP's sister, a true and pure-hearted sibling right there.
A drunken kiss attempt I can forgive, put it out of my mind. But this? And then to find out what kind of creep he really is? I can't swear that I wouldn't be in prison for attempted homicide after this.
If my family did this, I would be disgusted. The memories from something like this never leave you. You are left with them for the rest of your life, and the feeling of his touch on your skin. I hope op and his fiance are doing better now.
Family or not: abuse is abuse. That monster doesn’t deserve forgiveness. The fact ops own mother and father are willing to give their wicked son free pass is just disgusting.
honestly, the person who originally commented the theory of the brother having a history of s3xually assaulting women deserves an award, because if not for that person, the brother wouldn't have gone to jail, and, maybe worse, op and his fiancé would still be going through the aftermath (or it would've taken a lot longer). but yeah, gg's to that one dude and his comment 👍
I think you'd be happy to know that these types of stories from reddit (this one specifically too) are fake. The theme for these is always "Guy has partner who gets raped, but its by an alien whos actually her father" and then they always cater the rest of the post edits and whatnot to the comments. Its so shitty and its just engagement bait. You'll find these accounts created a while ago with a small amount of posts because they delete all their past attempts of engagement bait when one of them goes viral.
The truth is that people who experience this kind of stuff don't post it on reddit for everyone to see. Just some lonely losers faking a very real thing for engagement because thats the only way they get validation.
That’s insane. To think that 8 peoples lives are completely changed and affected because of 1 man is insane
Would OP's mom deny what her son did if he had done what he did to a kid?
Probably
as long as that son of hers gave her grandbabies
I heard about similar cases before, the family usually tries to cover it up. It doesn't matter to them even if it's a child
She wouldn’t be so forgiving if he’d done it to his own sister
yeppppp
Hmm the brother running from the cops shows he did do something shady
"Why doesn't our son see us anymore?"
Just wait. They'll pull that some day. Smfh
That lawyer friend is an idiot, there is no way he would be arrested for acting to prevent a rape.
Considering there have been cases of burglars suing for injury while breaking into somewhere and WINNING in this country? (No idea if this happened in the US, but something tells me probably not)
Probably not.
@@SwiftGale1 well, he tried to bring his brother down with him, and the judge told him to sit down and shut up
Because there were 8 victims and his injuries were no longer there.
I'm pretty sure this was in a different country besides the U.S and some countries (Japan for example) really couldn't care less about S.A
@@archangelspythonsthat depends on the state. Some state throw you to jail for a decade of you say something bad to a woman and others gives fines and one year of prison.
Got a feeling brother decided to so it because she wasn't part of their community, so she was "less" than him
To do that right around family leads me to believe mommy and daddy dearest knew, and that brother is a serial offender.
EDIT: ffs. Into the woodchipper they go
Yes and amber turd never lied about Johnny Depp. Those 8 others all exaggerated. At worst it was regret snuggling after drinking
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fake news
Depends on if the other victims were the same. I think he is more an opportunistic criminal than anything else.
In so many of these stories the parents get so caught up trying to protect their Golden Child that in the end they end up losing him and the rest of their children
Imagine the mom didn't force OP to reconcile with his brother, that guy might have escaped the consequences. Props to mom!
I must say, OP was VERY LUCKY, he caught the bastard in the start, before he could do the "act", thus stopping a NTR right there, i can only think in how horrible it could have been if his brother was sucessful.
Jackass was bold enough to do this in a house full of people. The audacity and horror.
If OP's parents did know about this, then they could be charges as accomplices to his brother.
The fiancee's comment about feeling threatened everywhere she went in public was too real, I remember finals were going on at the time so I had to just push through it but man I hated how my skin crawled everywhere I went in those first few months
about story 1: family is crazy, predators don't usually change (OP's brother is very likely not to). I would be livid if my son tried something like that and he would no longer be considered family.
Sadly a lot of parents doesn't think like that. More common is the same line of thinking for mental illness-
"I didn't raise a failure, so they got nothing wrong with them, you are wrong for thinking that"
They take it as a offense towards them and how did they raise their child, so denial it is...
He tried to rape someone who'd rejected him. Even if it wasn't his brother it was still unbelievably horrible. The Bible preaches forgiveness but even if I could forgive that person would never be part of my life again. He tried to assault her twice, I highly doubt he wouldn't do it again.
this reminds me of how i was ass@ulted in my own bed while i was asleep when i was younger and the justice that never happened. My heart goes out to his fiancée/wife and everyone else that sick bastard hurt, its a long road to recovering from such a traumatic experience but when you have the right people in your life it really does help.
I'm so sorry that had happened. I wish the best for you, and justice to be held against the attacker.
Trust isn't something that can easily be repaired. That's why the poster from the first story isn't talking with his brother.
Dude, what the hell was the mother and other family members doing? Like, THE HELL! You think four years is enough to forgive someone like that! 1000 Years isn't enough! I'm glad he's going to stay in jail for the rest or his life and hopefully his inmates make it hard on him in there.
This is probably the greatest Reddit husband I've ever read about. He's normal. He's there for his wife. He has a normal human reaction to such a terrible monster. I love him and I hope for the best for this couple to heal together and have a nice life
That kiss incident would have been a mistake, but the fact that he actually tried to force his way onto his own brother's fiance, it means that the kiss incident was NOT an accident! If someone did that to my spouse, I'd be in jail for murder
W for the Judge
I really wonder how much the parents knew about the brother
I am so sorry that this happened to your fiancee and those other women. Glad justice was found.
This guy is a real ally and one of the reasons i still have hope for humanity
It's horrifying to expect this from parents & brother....
OP should say "you want forgiveness? Get religion"
Which religion? I think that is the issue…
@@woocashwombat3897 it's a quote from Spider-man 3
It's implying that you'll only get forgiveness from religion
@@woocashwombat3897Christianity.
This happened to my best friend. Full assault though. Everyone called her a liar. Fast forward to other groups females friends saying the exact same stuff about the brother that my friend had accused him of. Brother has gone on to r*pe many more and because his Daddy is rich, he is still walking free. The justice system is a joke.
Its crazy how people can forgive horrible crimes because of family bonds.
“Now-that-human-excuse-for-a-brother is gone” made me crack up 😂
W judge
Most well behaved war aged migrant
I need therapy for anger issues but was never given therapy
I don't think he would've gotten into too much trouble. He was stopping an attacker. I would hope they wouldn't bring a case against him.
Just saw this video and I can’t believe the actions that your brother did. I wish the best for you and hope that your marriage is a long lasting and sound one.
NTA you invite whoever you want to
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Jesus Christ. What an absolute nightmare. Thank GOD that monster is behind bars.
if I ever decide to have a boyfriend after a nasty break up I am currently experiencing, I want a man who will support me and care about my well being like this guy supports his girlfreind. What a gem! This is what a real man acts like!
I can only imagine how peaceful the wedding would be with a monster in jail and no one around who supported him
“You want forgiveness? Get religion.”
I don't know what is worse: that he did it at least 8 times that could be proven, or that his and the OP's own parents tried to "protect him" from prison.... disgusting!!
There’s no way that’s the same person, before this incident the brother seemed like the perfect human being!?!
If this is remotely true & if i had to name someone who is worse than the ropist brother than they are OP's parents tbh i don't even have a senctence to describe them iter than that if i was in op's shoes i would have gone permanent NC with them.
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You're far too nice, your brother should be in prison, he is a danger to all women not only your fiancee
Well, in the end, OOP said his brother was going to prison for the rest of his life, so...
As someone in a similar situation, I believe in forgiveness not for the sake of the perpetrator but for my own. Holding onto this kind of hatred and bitterness changes you as a person, makes you into someone you are not. However, forgiveness doesn’t mean I forget what happened at all. They may have my forgiveness but never my trust again.
didn't expect the family to start gaslighting
As a victim of sa myself, I'm disgusted with the family trying to push him to forgive. I gave my abuser to his face but that was after nearly 2 decades, 10 of which he wasn't part of my life at all, and a LOT of healing. It was on my terms and no one else's. I forgave, let go of the hurt and rage, and moved on.
Op gave his brother hell and if Op's brother is in jail the inmates will give it to him roping doesn't fly in prison
He had to have been a golden child or miracle baby because as parents they should be converting their future daughter in law instead of supporting that waste of a human being
I hope all these girls are okay and have gotten over their trauma.
God bless 🩷✝️
I cannot believe he has a daughter tho
Wtf is that family crazy
I would tell my mom that I'll forgive him when my fiance feels safe enough to be around him. When she gets over her trauma. When she can feel safe again. That should shut her up.
@@the_weird_girl2042 In theory it does seem reasonable enough. For one, fiance might never get over it, and after it happening twice I don't think she would even want to feel safe around him, so no forgivness
Second, it would reinforce that the problem isn't "brother touched something mine" but "He assulted a woman and it's unacceptable"
Like, maybe it would be easier to understand for delusional mother, but maybe not
@@the_weird_girl2042 if you think so. People are different, I would probably hope that the mother is just confused and there is a way to talk to her senses
If family really cares it's hard to cut them off... On the other hand if they did care, then it's hard to believe they would just let this whole story happen so maybe your way is cleaner
Forgive someone that assaulted my partner? Absolutely not. If this was my brother, he'd be lucky enough to walk again after im done
Comes to a country doesn't want to connect to the natives: we have the same right to live here as anyone else.
Yeah, this will bring us all peace and harmony.
Remember you can always ask for forgiveness.
But you cannot expect a person to forgive just because it's been "this long." Forgiveness is only given when the person had been wronged is ready to forgive.
In addition, forgiveness is not something that is easily obtained.
I love the collage part
"He was not itimidated by the local children"
*DAMN BRO TF DID THE CHILDREN DO TO YOU?*
W man for protecting his girl 🍷🗿
What a vibrant culture
For future reference dont go to parties where alcohol is the norm
Anyone else get chills with the OPs last words?
15:40 bro is actually struggling so with trapped doors lmao
--- Tell your parents you will never forgive your brother and now you will go no contact with them. Show the information to the police. Glad the brother is now in jail, too bad about your parents.
The parents were so happy to ‘keep the peace,’ op I would’ve been in jail
I don't believe a word of this. No cops called, I don't give two craps if that's a stranger/brother..were filing a police report.
People like you are literally the problem
Not everyone reacts exactly as you would, that doesn't make it a lie
No way they beat the real life antagonist
He is lucky he survived and don’t do anything to the girl YET I’m happy he came in time to save her
Sister is James Bond and Alias level 💪💪
Hearing about a girl having to smile at her sexual assaulter really hurts me because when I was 11 my mom got married to my stepfather about a few months into the marriage he sexually assaulted me and I had to act like it didn't happen for over a year and once I told my siblings my sister told my mom happened she is still in denial and is still trying to make me forgive him and be close to him so she can have that perfect little family she always wanted so it hurts to see other people have to deal with this I hope you and your fiance are doing OK
I'm amazed that finall some legal action was taken
the part where the brother is convicted of 8 charges and has a life imprisonment sentence is kinda suspicious, of course i don't know if it's real or the details of his case but i'd guess it wouldn't go down like that in court, it would be believable if he said like 3 or 4 charges and like 20 years sentence...
Married man with daughters here, I could never forgive a man who does this, it don't matter who that man is. As for people covering up for them, they're just as bad. I hope op, his fiancé, and all the women who are victims of this can heal and develop a healthy lifestyle that helps them overcome and get stronger from it.
Just go no contact with anyone who wants you to forgive him and move away and love your soon to be wife/wife
I'm honestly not surprised that this isn't the first time the brother tried to rape someone but op's family are insane to expect op and his fiance to forgive using 'he's family' card on them, well after the court case and hearing from the many victums he's hurt they'll hopefully think twice before they try pulling that sh*t again.
This story is horrible but I’m happy it has a kinda happy ending
Also W Sister through all this
Crazy that he was put away forever for rape, America court system makes that basically impossible