Parents Take Sister On Vacation Instead Of Me, Later on She Ruined Family Vacation and Got Arrested.
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- Parents Take Sister On Vacation Instead Of Me, Later on She Ruined Family Vacation and Got Arrested, Now My Parents Finally Realize Her True Colors.
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OP is EXTREMELY fortunate that Lisa prevented her from going on the trip. If OP had gone, Lisa would have framed her for the theft of the medication. And the parents would have believed her.
That is an excellent point that I hadn't considered. Talk about dodging a bullet.
@@deadworld953dodging a nuke
@@DeckerJimenez7014forget the nuke, she dodged a tsar bomba.
@@tc-channelhobby4051 nah, dodged a neutrino bomb.
@@TireFireWna she dodged a supernova
I will never understand parents who shrug off borderline psychotic behavior of their kids as them just being "young and naive." At that age, that behavior is exactly what the parents should be correcting. This is a classic case of bad parenting. I would go as far as straight-up calling them bad parents.
Show me losers who've never been to San Francisco or California but get their news from Republican rednecks and I will show you these commenters.
Agreed. Yes, they are young and naive. That is exactly why you correct it.
all kids are psychopaths. empathy develops later.
Yup, 100% agree. They are incredibly bad parents, and the thing that got me was that in the end of the story they were _still_ desperately scrambling for a way to forgive Lisa, at OP's expense. Lisa still has them wrapped around her little finger.
She's still their golden child, and they are even after realizing what she is (likely a legitimate psychopath) bending over backwards to appease her, something that will 100% guaranteed happen at OP's expense. A psychopath like her doesn't suddenly just snap out of it because they go to therapy or get some prescription pills; she will just learn to hide her true self better and get even more manipulative.
Borderline?
Miracle babies or not, you do NOT play favoritism to any child. You will end up with an adult thats either dangerous, a criminal, or an entitled child.
In this case, all of the above.
The entitled child being the best scenario...
@Texo-ul6bg I wouldn't want an entitled adult that acts like a child and throws a tantrum. Especially out in public with them, the amount of embarrassment and headaches they come with. The moment police gets called, I'm walking, let them learn they can't have it all.
Tell that to my damn dad. He's now dealing with a 9 year old who has been spoiled all his life and has the most entitled attitude. Rolls his eyes at everyone (except our stepmom), talks back, and gets literally anything he wants even if my dad barely has money. I and so do my 3 older brothers talk about this all the time. We grew up in dirt, getting treated like we were teens. Whooped everyday, made to clean bathrooms, dishes, and the house all before we turned 6 years old, and still were told, "These are different times," after confronting my dad about how he responds to my little brothers entitlement. My mom even said to us probably hundreds of times that she knows my little brothers upbringing is extremely unfair to us and that she hates how my dad spoils my little brother.
I understand he's premature, but that doesn't give him ANY reason to be spoiled to the max, especially he grew up like a normal, on-time baby with no health issues.
Another thing, we grew up with a hot headed dad that blew up at us when we did the smallest thing because of his ptsd. My little brother has received, at most, 15 spankings (no whooping with belts, shoes, or cords) by our mom his whole life. I remember getting whooped 2-4 times a week for a year. Main ones were when I didn't wash dishes right. They'd get thrown back in the sink and I'd have to rewash every last dish in the house, and still get a whooping after I finish. My little brother still can't tie his shoes because he gets mad everytime someone tries to teach him and he ends up throwing a fit if he "can't make bunny ears."
I'm 16 and I cannot WAIT until I get 18. I want to leave.
Or all the above
Imagine being such a terrible person to live with that someone would consider spending a week in San Francisco a holiday by comparison.
Living in California is a special kind of hell
Based comment.
@@juliancumbia6443das gae
@@TripleKmafia a fate worse than death
Hah, he edited his comment
Yandere daughter 😂
I’m SORRY?!
She was accused of assault, and NOT ATTEMPTED MURDER for stealing her father’s heart medication?!
Not to mention she carried a knife as well.
Prosecutors will charge someone with assault instead of attempted murder because its easier to prove that she assaulted someone than her trying to actually commit murder.
@@makli922 a problem, but definitely easier. I’m still flabbergasted, though.
The assault charge is the knife carrying because assault is making somebody think you are gonna attack or physically hurt them while battery is actually doing it
@johnassanders9675 oh yeah, because you have to have proof of clear intent to murder, right? That is much harder to prove.
Since the story seems unfinished, i'm going to say it now: the parents are going to come home to a complete trash house. Either the outside is destroyed and vandalized by the sister, or, more likely since there was no mention in the posts, they didn't change their locks or had a spare key and sister got inside to destroy everything there.
I was thinking the entire time they said they'd be gone "That place is going to burn to the ground."
Oh 100%
there is no way in hell Lisa is just gonna leave them alone either. She's gonna come after them again
Only a complete idiot would have even told her they're leaving.
Definitely, I think their relationship with Lisa can’t be repaired. If even it could, there’s always going to be some uneasy between them all due to how badly Lisa lashed out with a knife and her hiding her father’s medication that keeps him alive. Not to mention OP won’t fully trust her family because of their treatment of her in the past.
"don't want to press charges"
why not? consequences matter...
and behind bars there might be more opportunities for her to get professional help
Seriously, that's the whole reason they are in this mess to begin with, ignoring the problem and not dealing with it.
pussy pass still going strong
Yeah the parents were in the end of the story already working on welcoming Lisa back into their lives. Despite now knowing what she is, most likely a psychopath, they are almost instantly looking for a way to bring her back. And it will happen at OP's expense, because a psychopath doesn't just suddenly change. She will just hide her manipulation better, but she will still be doing her thing, and the parents will just eat it all up because she is still their golden child. She's been their golden child for 18 years and that doesn't just go away unless the parents make it go away. And they sure don't seem like they are.
Yeah! Which is exactly why they'll deal with the new problem in the exact same way! By ignoring it and not dealing with it at all!@@Lichor2369
@@mannydcbianco👏 valid
Maybe I'm cynical but I think things in OP's family are going to slip back to the status quo eventually. The parent don't seem like they are willing to commit to any permanent solution. Lisa is going to realize she let her mask slip a bit too much and reel it back a bit. The parent are going to go for this because they ultimately love her more than Op and will willingly believe whatever half-assed excuse Lisa produces. Lisa is going to continue to manipulate the parents into pushing the OP out of the family and they are going to let her.
Yep same here, seen it happen too often a lot and until others force them to wake up to the reality, they're at risk of falling back to the statuos quo
Honestly this sounds like 2 different manipulative people trying to manipulate their parents in vastly different ways with op playing the long con form of manipulation where as her sister was the instant gratification kind
@@zambekillerHow did OP manipulate? All she wanted was a family and she even allowed them to go within her and bailed them out when the sister went psycho. Not understanding the long con here…
@@lalalovengun the reason why I said it felt like a long con manipulation was because she was being the perfect daughter at the end when almost everyone else would have cut them off and for the most part it is my gut telling me this not hard facts but it just seems convenient that the younger sister stole heart medicine during the vacation that the older sister wasn't on it feels like we're missing context and I could be wrong the older sister could be manipulating the younger sister and not the parents
@@zambekiller it makes sense where you’re coming from! I didn’t catch that! Kinda like good cop bad cop to compete for their parents’ love and attention.
So, the parents want forgiveness now that the golden child has turned on them? Yeah, OP is a better person than I am. Also, getting help for the monster the parents created? Nah; screw her. Let the parents fix the mess they made!
They now realize that their angelic daughter is actually a demon.
@@rogueshark23 - I actually do wonder if they recognize that their 'golden child' turned out that bad precisely because of the years of blatant favouritism. They treated one of them as the perfect princess and made excuses for their behaviour or outright dismissed the possibility that she could have done something bad in the first place. The other one seemed more like a +1 that they liked well enough, but thought of as a troublemaker because she had the gall to accuse their miracle baby of anything.
Wouldn't be surprised if they remain largely oblivious to their role in how rotten their 2nd child turned out. A narcissist with tendencies that might get her diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder.
If I were in the OP's shoes I certainly wouldn't have been keen on reconciliation. They may not have been deliberately abusive, but years of being dismissed and treated as the unnecessary 'extra' daughter would certainly have done a lot of harm in its own right. I likely would have blocked them when they went on the trip, if not long before. She apparently leads a successful independent life, so it's not like she needs to rely on them for anything. She's a much more empathetic and social person than I, it seems.
As much as I'd like them to do this, there's a pragmatic angle to this. Lisa views Op as the problem, and likely sees her as turning them from her. She's a target. If they fix the crazy, then there's a possibility that things might get better. Of course, this could also mean she fakes her way back in, or worse, the favoritism comes back and they bend to her will so as to not have repeats. This could go either way, but at the very least the decision seems sound why Op is doing what she does.
@@rogueshark23nah bro demons dont claim her
It very much reeks of "well, we'll replace Lisa with you (we need a child to adore us)." I want to see them take their asses to therapy and REALLY understand and commit to un-learning all of the twisted attitudes they've been living in.
Kids have been DISOWNED for less, and they still want to help Lisa? After that knife incident? F that, she deserves to be alone and miserable. The parents better do everything in their power to make it up to OP if they want her forgiveness so badly
Agree 100%. In the end of the story when Lisa had been more or less confirmed to be pure evil, likely a legitimate psychopath, they were almost INSTANTLY looking for a way to bring her back. That's not good parenting, that's the damn opposite of good parenting. That's enabling and it will come at OP's expense.
there is a reason death sentence exist
@@mannydcbiancoplay the Devil's Advocate role for a bit, they birthed that child and have only seen them as an angel for all their lives, and no matter what you say, a mother will always deep down fight for her child if they have always seen them in a positive light, no matter how messed up the child actually was
悪魔の子
@@savagecabbage1184 I don’t like that
Yeah, no, the moment she charged at you with a knife, that psycho is too far gone. Disown her, get a restraining order, and move on.
Lisa got WAY too bold. She figured she had her parents sufficiently cowed and upped the ante. All she had to do was keep pretending and make OP the bad guy in their eyes and she was set for life. Guess she got frustrated with having to hide her nastier nature for so long and just let it all out in a flood.
She was already tpo far gone when she decided to take away her father's medecine to "teach him a lesson" about wanting to keep contact OP.
This is straight up psychopath narcissitic behaviour.
She hid his medication to "teach him a lesson"
@@merykhan97 A permanent one, she must've thought!
You got “psycho” right! Lisa is creepy
OP in this story is a better person than I would have been. This level of favoritism is just disgusting, and for me the family vacation would have been the final straw. Sure, I would have made sure everyone got home, and I would have absolutely made sure Lisa was gone, but forgiveness would most likely be out of the question. My response to them wantimg reconciliation would have been this:
"I appreciate that you're both now see what Lisa's true colors are, but things between us have gotten so bad that just don't think we can repair this relationship. Your favoritism towards her has done damage that cannot be undone. I'm sorry that this will hurt you, but I can no longer trust you. I helped you because I knew she would do far worse than we've seen thus far, but after this is solved, I'm cutting ties. I cannot have a relationship with people who cared little for me and igmored my pleas for help most of my life."
Then, I'd wish them good luck and move on from there. I hope OP gets the happy ending she deserves after such a long time of isolation.
Imagine OP standing there at the airport, watching her sister’s shit eating grin as the parents defend her and blame the airline for the “mistake”
@@dimsufferer9951 My thoughts exactly. That's why I think it would have been the last straw if I had been in that position. I could only handle that kind of toxicity for so long.
@@dimsufferer9951the fact the dad didnt even try to talk to a airport representative about the canceled ticket shows how much they just didnt care
The thing is in my perspective it doesn't seem like the parents are bad but just blinded... It is neglect still but it seems that the parents have a lot of love for both their children.
@@FeroxAmarokk i suppose. But the damage that can do to a child over time would probably annihilate any chance of reconciliation for others in this position.
It took all of that for them to realize what their daughter was? They wanted to be blind! There’s no way that this is the first time Lisa’s done something terrible!
You know what they say, "Spare the rod, spoil the child".😒
Denial is a powerful drug.
Enablers always support the abuser until they become the victim
I do hope OP points out that the parents were so afraid of Lisa falsely accusing them of doing exactly what they did to OP
The victim maybe different but the parents are still guilty all the same
Yeah. I despise stories like this where the perpetrator gets to face next to no consequences. Legitimately psychotic daughter gets to threaten people's lives and commit years of abuse and harassement, family still bail them out of jail and tells them they are loved, the only punishment is "move out lmao."
And the parents being close to sociopathic as well, ignoring the suffering of their child for years and years at end, going as far as abandoning her so they can take a trip with their real family, with OP lavishing them with help, assistance, validation and more, proving that abusers and bad parents just gets off scott free.
@@anders8204 Yup. OP is too good to them. She kept picking up immediately even after multiple days of all calls being to show off how much they are all enjoying family time without her, without even being sorry
And frankly? Raising Lisa the way they did led to shaping her into this entitled terror that she is. They DID neglect her well-being. They failed to give her boundaries. No doubt they rewarded toxic, manipulative, selfish, psychopathic behavior. They failed to give her the best chance at life. They let her down as much as they let society down by shaping her. And as you said, they DID overtly severely neglect their older child.
OP is being naive. She thinks that her parents want to reconcile with her out of remorse and guilt. Well, I think they do feel truly sorry, but mostly for themselves. The only reason why they want to use OP to play happy family is to ease their own consciousness. They did not give a single fuck about OP for all those years. Even when they started their family vacation, they were perfectly happy and fine with OPs ticket being "accidentally" cancelled, and maybe all of them were actually glad about that. Now their beloved little daughter turns out to be an absolute pos, and so they seek immediate remidy by using OP as a replacement. I do not think for a single second that someone would suddenly start caring about a child when for so many years they were perfectly fine with completely ignoring it in favor of another child. No, I am certain that they only pretend to care about her for selfish reasons. Absolutely disgusting trash, they do not deserve a second chance.
They must live with the consequences of their actions and be forced to face them head on without any aid whatsoever. Honestly, even just the fact that OP helped them to get out of their vacation was probably too much. I would have told them "all those years you did not treat me like I was a part of your family. Only now, that you need something from me, you suddenly want to act like family. You chose her over me, so it is entirely up to you to figure out how to deal with her. I don't think we should talk again. Goodbye." and hung up. That's the only way they'll ever truly regret what they did. Whatever she does, OP should not have settled for being a "backup plan" or "convenient second choice" for her parents. She did not have a place in their lives when it mattered, so why should they now have a place in her life?
Putting myself in OP’s shoes, I felt she still loved her parents and was concerned for them and had hope for reconciliation. But you’re absolutely right. Any self respecting person wouldn’t settle as convenient second choice *especially* with the telltale sign that they were hardwired into it being just the parents and Lisa by having no problem not having OP in their lives. I can never understand how any parent can dismiss a child they gave birth to in favor for another child…
Yeah this exactly why OP seemed like a doormat who desperatly wanted any recognition of her parents which seemed pretty sad.
We all Know that if the sister treated her parents well again, they would betray OP
She is a doormat, she would keep being a doormat just to have the littlest of her parents' attention. I have friends like this, but I'm careful not to add more pathetic friends. I'm trying hard to be there for them, listen to them, but honestly, them being pathetic takes a toll on my own mental health. It's frustrating to listen to them vent when they are not exactly doing anything to change their situation.
Doubtful besides who would want to help the sister that's practically sociopath and a psychotic plus it took a near fatal heart attack to see the truth.
But...honestly. Op's parents created this monster. Karma can be a B.
No, they nurtured her. The dark triad behavior started too young for it to be learned, it was inherited. There are genes related to certain anti-social personality types and this is a great example of that.
@@carliromanothey are parents. It is their job to parent, educate and correct bad behaviour of their child. The fact that she acts like that is a result of the knowledge that she can get away with it without being punished. Besides they believed the "miracle child" but not the other one? Even the name shouts favouritism.
Exactly they made their bed
@@carliromanoThere's a chance lower than 0 you'll be born as a monster. Monsters can be made but not only by bad treatment from others but by bad parenting.
That sly smirk at the airport would've earned her a massive slap.
And a "since you clearly don't care about me, don't expect me to ever care for you in the future." And then make it a point to block them there right in front of them.
OP truly is a saint for being able to go through all that mess with them, while still holding onto that past resentment.
Respect to OP because I would've lost my mind if I was in their situation.
OP deserves a year long vacation tbh.
Don't be too hasty to forgive those who only seek forgivness after they themselves were hurt.
usually that remorse comes from a selfish place salvaging what they can and doing damage controll for their own lives.
Forgive those who seek forgiveness when they see the damage they caused to you as that comes from true remorse and concern for you.
Meh stupid is more forgivable than evil but yeah I would have laughed at their face when they realized the truth
They became a family of three he second they threw away their oldest child. OP was thrown away long ago in favor of her sister
I really hate the "They're young. They'll outgrow this" mentality when kids act out or treat their siblings horribly like this. Op's parents really suck. Still, if op's sister hadn't done what she done she totally would have framed op for the missing heart medication. Op's parents being the bad parents they are would have believed it too. This vacation would have been the final straw for me and I'd tell mom to freaking do her job for once and stand up to the brat she and her husband created. Op's sister needs more than just eviction. She needs one of those psychiatric hospitals.
People only outgrow things when they are parented through it and given structure, consequences, and told "no, that's not okay." Honestly it can be as simple as demonstrating through your behavior and attitude toward the sibling wronged how the kid doing the wrongs should actually be behaving. Kids do imitate you on some level, it's not a guaranteed that they'll imitate you exactly, but it makes a bigger difference than parents seem to be aware of. If you, as one of the children, are attacking your sibling to feel superiority or to isolate your parents' favor for yourself, then as the parent, I can imagine refusing to play favorites and choosing to intentionally show respect and concern for the wronged sibling would push back against the idea that striving for dominance would gain them something. Kind I'm too used to people deciding that "good parenting" looks like beating the sht out of your kids and yelling at them and isolating them at home and requiring them to pay to live in their own house and stuff like that, I feel like parents need to take responsibility for their own actions and attitudes first. Also, if you're setting up a hierarchy among your children, NONE of the children feel loved. Did you see how insecure Lisa felt in her parents' love? The second they included OP at all, Lisa, in her subjective experience, felt like that meant she was nothing. "Golden child" dynamics tell the kid that they are only valued because another child is _de_valued. You have no worth, you just have competition. Kids need actual real affection and attention and respect, not parentally self-aggrandizing doting just to feel important and to get a child to show themselves heaps of affection.
OP is a much better person than be. I would have hung up the moment my parents called my crying after finding out. If they contacted me again all i would tell them is "I told you so".
Spineless is a better description
nah,she should have said something along the lines of "oh just try to get along with her" just like the way the parents used to say to op
@@namansinha701or say it must be a mistake of the hotel. She would never steal his heart meds. You shouldn’t blame her.
@@yaqbulyakkerbat4190 yeah, she's a neglected child who always wanted her parents attention and love, of course she's forgiving them to get something she dreamed about since childhood, nothing surprising
@@yaqbulyakkerbat4190 She’s not a sociopath like her sister. Believe it or not, some people have empathy.
op is way to nice, i would've laughed and told them, "you made this bed, now sleep in it." and just hung up on them and cut contact. no apologies can fix all the bs op had to go through all because they were blinded by golden child glasses
I like these type of stories as opposed to the cheating ones. Its much more psychological and it relies on other ignorance as opposed to narrator ignorance and trust
Most of them are fake the way the stories are written they all have certain events
The parents having the key to Lisa's hotel room broke the credibility for me.
The parents are the villains of this story. Lisa being mean to her older sister was a manifestation of the parents' view that Lisa was a miracle - which made OP seem like a mistake, that view didn’t come from nowhere. And all babies are miracle babies
How oblivious do you have to as a parent to not notice manipulation from a child? My kids might be able to get away with one or two things, but catch them when they pressed their luck. I always corrected my kids and listened to the if they said their siblings where doing something shady to them. These seem like lazy parents that lived in a dream world where siblings were always nice to each other. Growing up with siblings I knew to stay on my toes with my kids. OP parents are POS that ruined the lives of their children.
It had to have been willful. Lisa was their miracle, and any evidence to go contrary was promptly ignored
Yup, I think it's a combination of things. 1) They were both doctors so they probably didn't really raise their own kids. They probably hired/ fired nannies. They would really be with their kids a small amount of time. They probably spoiled the daughter so much that she WAS an angel with them. Then add willful ignorance.
My parents recognize my younger sibling manipulated them in the past and they still allow her to do it currently 😂😭 it’s a tale as old as time
It’s because they’re family they get away with it. If it were a friend, or even distant relative, that type of behavior wouldn’t be tolerated and they’d be cut out. Because it’s their child, it’s a whole other story. I also think it’s more likely the youngest child gets favorited and in this story and my own experience, that holds true. Even sibling theories by psychologists like Adler claim the oldest is held to higher responsibilities while the youngest gets more lenient treatment.
It is called willful ignorance
You'd be amazed how much a person can "overlook" or "miss" or "not notice" when it's done by someone they love. Unlike their first daughter, it seems like those "parents" really loved their second one, so it's natural that they didn't notice anything despite the very obvious signs.
Full 100000% agree
I was born 1 year after a miscarriage and my dad was never present in my life bc he was afraid I'd die and he distanced himself. Interesting how different people's reaction to trauma is
"When favortism enters the family, love and trust go out of window" -Unknow
Imma just credit you then.
So their plan is to have a heart to heart with a manipulator ( and possibly sociopath ) to make her see the error of her way ?
This won't end well
The whole time OP was talking about Lisa smashing furniture and bringing a knife to a fight, I was thinking: “Cameras! Cameras! GET CAMERAS!”
I know, right? Literally even just filming in your phone would be enough.
Well, if it isn’t the consequences of their actions.
No sympathy for the parents. 😂
I can't help but notice that parents constantly ask OP for help with their younger daughter... what a mess. They are adults, who spoiled their younger kid rotten, they should take responsibility and sort this out themselves.
Exactly! Older siblings aren't responsible for their younger siblings, the parents are the ones who decided to have kids, so they need to step up and be responsible.
When it comes to family drama, the "Parents play favoritism with their kids" subgenre is my favorite.
I actually cried so much because I just feel bad. Here a quote, “Every child needs a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.”
Sometimes, parents and siblings are just the things you don't need in your life. They just mess you up.
They failed Lisa by favoring her. They couldn't have been more deliberate in raising a narcissist.
Well if only its only « narcissist » trait, she clearly shows that she has psychopath/sociopath traits, Lisa is a predator defending what she consider her « property » im actually surprised op didnt get assaulted or worse tbh
She'll "change" for 5 minutes and all will be forgiven. Then it will be "shes sorry OP, can't we all be a family again?" 🥺
NO FORGIVENESS.
let the face their failure of being a parent
OP is a fucking saint for not telling her parents "I told you so" when they came crying to her because the monster left the closet.
Wont lie, In the medication situation I would have been very tempted to just say to my parents "She would never do something like that, cant you guys just get along?"
“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” -Mark Twain
Actually even if she's an adult she can get forcefully checked through Baker's Act (if they're from Florida), there's probably acts like this in other states, hopefully one in the state they reside in.
As an adult Lisa can't be forced to undergo a mental health assessment, but surely after pulling a knife on her parents, combined with her previous behaviour, she could have been put on an emergency mental health hold.
I'm sure that they can't bear to have her committed involuntarily. She's *still* their golden child, after all; the objective of the process is to fix her and have her back in their lives as the little shining star of light they think she is.
Depending on the state, you can get a 5150 easily.
She's got obvious markers for sociopathy (it's called something else in the new DSM I think), but it starts up young and can escalate into violence and sadism rapidly when confronted
The parents are borderline malicious towards OP to almost instantly want/try to welcome Lisa back and help her, after everything she's done to OP. This shows that she is still their golden child, that they will still bend over backwards for her and sacrifice OP to do it. Sometimes when you are faced with evil (regardless of any mental illnesses) you just have to cut all ties even if it's a daughter, son, sibling or parent.
If they are so damn eager to forgive the sister for what she did to them - including hiding the father's medications that literally kept him alive - that's on them, but they are incredibly disrespectful and toxic for almost instantly working on forgiving Lisa for what she did to OP for two decades.
The "bUt fAmiLy" argument is absurd in cases like this. Some shared DNA means absolutely nothing; your true family consists of the people who treat you with respect, kindness and has your back, but also holds you accountable when needed, regardless of if you share blood or not.
Wait so, when she’s sick it’s “we have a responsibility we need to check up on her and take care of her” but when the older one asks for help it’s “can’t you just get along with her” yeah nah from that point on you ain’t my parents
Op actually dodged a huge bullet here, if she tried to book another ticket, im pretty positive the sister would've pinned it all on her
Despite everything, I still think it's mega gross that two parents considered their SECOND (technically third) child to be their "miracle child"; they already HAD an alive, healthy baby to take care of. But they pushed to have a second, miscarried, and then pushed to have a third to fix their feelings. Then you completely ignore the first? I would consider that such a huge, constant slap in the face as the first child.
Support them?? I would let them deal with it themselves. It's their little monster!
So glad the parents realized the monster they created by playing favorites. I keep seeing this dynamic over and over again. Playing favorites RUIN FAMILIES! 🤦🏿♀️
Once again golden child makes everyone pay for their parents lack of understanding and critical thinking to observe her and understand her actions.
Why the parents still think Lisa gonna forgive them? She already went at them with a knife. This is a murder case waiting to happen
This family is way dumber than I expected. After she kept getting arrested, why bother bailing her out to evict her? Let her sit in jail and then evict her once she's released. Not only that, you can put someone into a force psychotic hold if its deemed that the person is threat to themselves or others especially with the amount of arrests she had plus the knife incident. I feel like this entire family thinks stuff just blows over if they just close their eyes and ignore everything which is what they've been doing for the sister's entire life.
It seems weird and a bit unbelievable that Lisa would suddenly show them her true colors in such extreme and obvious ways after hiding it all these years
*if it is mental illness*, like bipolar, these can show up later in life. Making it harder for her to control her emotions and hide her evil behavior.
narcissists when found out usually lash out with violence.
I think that her master plan was to knock off the father and live an easy life for the rest of time as his sole heir and have her mother as her unpaid maid. Unfortunately, she was careless and didn't plan for the disposal of the meds. I also don't think that she expected her parents to involve OP in the issue after she *demanded* that they stop associating with her.
I mean, evicting someone by legal means takes longer than a week. Ending up in jail in a foreign country pretty much never ends with you being released after "24h". This entire story is written by someone imagining how it would be.
Just because you have one misscrage doesn’t mean the the kid that comes after is a miracle child
A baby born after a miscarriage is _very_ often referred to as a "rainbow baby" or "miracle baby".
@@charlottebarham7722 I know and it’s dumb it’s not like she had 5 fail attempts then had a child people need to stop making every little thing special yeah fail pregnancy sucks but it happens all the time and it was just one it’s like given a kid a trophy because they show up to a contest
@@lucifermorningstar2505
You are being incredibly ignorant and inconsiderate. Please gain some empathy for those who have miscarried/had a stillbirth. It is an incredibly traumatic experience. Having a baby after a miscarriage can certainly be a miracle. They can be a beacon of hope. They have the chance at life that the previous child never got to have. They can't make the trauma caused by miscarriage/stillbirth go away, but they can help the family and especially parents heal. The miracle baby isn't given a trophy for showing up, they usually get coddled and adored over because the parents are afraid of losing them too, or because it helps them feel like they're making up for the child they never got the chance to coddle.
This isn't making "every little thing special". This is people celebrating the simple joy of being able to carry a child to term and to raise a new life. This is celebrating the greatest and deepest love we know as a species and as animals capable of sexual reproduction; the love of a parent as they get to meet their newborn child for the first time, as well as mourning the loss of a child who they never got to meet.
@@charlottebarham7722 well ops parents fails since their miracle child was a pos
@@charlottebarham7722 they couldve adopted. They did not have to grow their own child. Trauma doesnt excuse what the parents did to OP or absolve them of their own selfish choices. If the parents were so messed up after the miscarriage, they shouldve just left well enough alone or gotten a dog.
OP's parents truly do not deserve her forgiveness nor her sympathy. If I were her, I would have disowned them, abandoned them to deal with the monster they created, and went on with my life as if they never existed.
I think what really got me was the older daughter's ticket was cancelled and they essentially whined like kids themselves going "but we really want to go."
Excuse me, did the father not say he wanted a vacation with the family? Daughters tickets gets cancelled and you look at it like a mild inconvenience. Hello, if it was me I would be like "I will change the tickets and we will go tomorrow. I want ALL my family with us."
But no "wah, but I wanna go on vacation."
If I were the daughter I would have said he can enjoy the trip with his family and wouldn't have picked up the phone.
If i had hid my father's pills, he wouldve beat the shit out of me right there lol
No fucking shit. Hiding pills is a form of violence -- as bad as trying to poison him. This is no longer a parenting relationship.
It's pretty obvious she was never the child who managed to get punished.
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raise a kid to be a monster you'll end up with a monster, this is why parents should take parenting classes
As someone who had an older sister who abused me my whole life, this isn’t surprising to hear.
If I was OP, I would have ignored the calls until the big reveal one and then said "She's your miracle baby. Deal with it as a family of three!"
Then again, if they had, we wouldn't have gotten the updates...
This is a common situation with many parents who have lost a child. They are still traumatized over losing a child, so they end up spoiling the next child rotten and treating them extra special as a way to cope with their grief. This level of pampering and coddling can result in developmental issues in the child. She basically became a sociopath with attachment issues.
Reminds me of my brother, he was mentally unwell, parents didn't believe it, well he went nuts. Now an adult he acts like a child he slept while hugging my dad in my parents bed. I know people say I'm harsh, but I've told my parents again & again when we were young my brother wasn't acting normal, he was abusive towards me, & he tried drowning our cousin once. He wasn't acting in anyway normal. He's not. He needs therapy, he was send into psychiatric ward around a month but now lives with my parents. Why can't parents listen to us? Is sending your child for psychiatric evaluation SO hard?? Is it a crime??
Oh no!, that’s so awful😢, I don’t know why your parents never took your concerns seriously.
They created the monster, armed and armoured it. I would not help them do battle with it if i was the one screaming for help in the past and they turned their heads so they would not have to watch me be maimed.
If i were OP I would have told my parents to go to he double hockey sticks when they asked me for help!
No sympathy for the parents.
Going through a miscarriage means every baby is a miracle baby. No justification for the horrible way they raised that monster.
The parents are more to blame than Lisa. Children aren't born spoiled, the parents spoil them.
This woman was never told "no" her entire life, so of course she's incapable of understanding that the world doesn't revolve around her.
Personally, I think Lisa is beyond redemption at this point. And OP is a better person than me; I don't know if I would've been able to forgive the parents that easily.
I bet if the parents died, they’ll will all the inheritance to Lisa.
Parents will say they don’t have a favourite but they’ll treat their favourite with gifts and money and let them off the hook whilst the non favourite gets dumped with all the responsibilities. Kids aren’t stupid, I saw how my younger brother was favourited because of his heart operation he had and how I was made to feel bad for pushing him back when he annoyed the heck out of me and came into my room pushing things off my shelves
This sounds like classic Borderline Personality Disorder. While the rage and manipulation could be easily chalked up to psychopath or narcissism, what really drives it away from those is how clingy she is to the parents. In BPD there's a term "favorite person", and I'm pretty sure that's what Lisa's relationship is with the parents.
Considering what she tried to do to her dad, I'm pretty sure her "favorite person" is her mom.
Any awful person: *exists*
Neurotypical person: “this is definitely BPD”
Wow OP has some issues with wanting to fix the family. Like honestly the dad didnt even attempt to try and fix the ticket misshap, theyve brought this on themselves
Lisa the type of female that's going to end up on a 60 minutes episode about widows with five husband's all "mysteriously" gone lmao
So the parents are finally the victims and OP just comes running to their aid?!?!? She should have let them deal with the problem they made.
Those parents are definitely getting bitten in the ass for all the enabling and neglect on Lisa. Just because she took things out on OP, doesn't mean they won't be next.
I wonder if there are any stories of a *Golden/Miracle* child who are aware of the parents favouritism towards them and don't let it go to their heads and try to help the ignored sibling?
Well they wouldn’t write about it on Reddit would they
@@dumbidea1007 There are a few stories, usually on AITA threads where they try to make amends or break away from the parents. Even then, not many admit (without downplaying it) that they enjoyed their clear golden child status for a few years before any guilt of mistreating (or helping to mistreat) their sibling set in and the desire to make amends. Some have ended up with warped expectations as to how the new sibling relationship could be after "discarding" their golden child protection, as if they think they could have a do-over relationship. But the pain doesn't end for the hurt sibling at the drop of a hat, and when things don't work out right, some of these golden children end up back in the old status quo because it's easier on them.
My sister complained that I received favoritism in respect to getting stuff... Well she didn't ask for much, and I pointed this out, and helped her become more assertive. She did become more outspoken and the balance shifted towards more equitable. But she also became craftier and more manipulative, playing on people's sense of obligation. Now she's the golden child. My parents are aware of this and try to offset the balance but I still think my sister asks too much of them in general.
There was one, a kid was the golden child of the whole kin including that story's op. So much so that for some reason even though op shared the same bday as gc and op parents helped make the party, there was no gifts, cake or really celebration for op. Turns out it was colorism and they sounded Hispanic from some incidents. Op got mad, gc got upset and I think op sibling got mad as everyone told them that it doesn't matter. Gc and op apparently started staying with op sister and are all getting along and trying to get away from most of their family.
I'm sorry, but I really think OP is kind of a doormat. She's let her family walk all over her for years without any repercussions.
Trying to figure out how some of these people don’t kick some ass in these situations.
TL;DR: Parents takes garbage in an international vacation.
Hilarity ensures.
I'm having a hard time believing that this story is real. It sounds like they don't like her actions but also want to continue handling her with kid gloves even though it sound like she is willing to unalived her dad because she hates her sister. Now they want to support her while she goes though her consequences wtf?
You'd be surprised how delulu parents can be. Esp. in the West.
Lisa another example of a favored child turning psycho because the parents refused to see what was truly going on. funny enough OP dodged a nuke by not going on the trip as there's 0 doubt in my mind that she would have set up OP as the med thief then she made the most fatal mistake when you're like that letting the mask slip once it came off the parents realized the truth. let's just hope the bridge between OP and her parents can be mended.
side note I hope the Parents changed locks and put up video cameras or moved from that house before going on their trip because that Lisa will try something given an opportunity like this.
OP here is a complete SAINT. She was, in the end, willing to forgive her parents' behavior.
Playing Favorites destroyed the relationship I had with my dad. He was always picking my little brother over me. Me and my dad have a better relationship now since I’m an adult but I’ll never forget how I was treated.
I wasn't able to reconcile with mine, he returned to his old habits the moment our renewed relationship was tested. taught me that both my parents were garbage and I had to start from a broken foundation in my twenties, was the most brutal wake up call.
Was also the beginning of a long spiral into depression stemming from loneliness and a lack of family to support me at all during hardship.
Still to this day I have no one to fall back on, if it goes tits up for me, it's all over.
@@Rexhunterj damn friend I hope all is well now.
for blindness to a persons actions, you need to not have any information other than your own experience. one you have that, its not blindness, its willful ignorance. mental health started this, conditioning made it far worse
That younger sister is a monster, selfish with no ability to look past her jealousy. I’m gonna assume that being unable to go to college has made her upset over her own inability.
Her patience is CRAZY
You know these parents are really shouldn't have reproduced. I mean they put Lisa in the world and then never actually going to cure her issues. They're too kind because they spent all the time viewing her as the golden child that if they get rid of that memory they realize they fucked up his parents
The older sister is almost a saint, I wouldn't even want to see my parents painted in gold if they had treated me like they treated her.
Even after everything, it seems like her parents regret the consequences of their actions, and not the actions themselves.
Lisa's behavior honestly reminds me that of a psychotic (no duh i know) bratty (again duh) yandere she wants all of the love and attention from their parents but the moment they did something she didn't like she wasn't a bit hesitant to harm or at the very least threaten them just because they wanted to have OP join the trip at first I'm honestly afraid that in lisa's sick mind her taking her father's heart medicines and putting his health in serious risk was her version of a "punishment" for even giving OP a chance to get a glimpse of attention after years of being a self made "miracle child" after years of manipulation into her parents good graces
You do not owe your parents for having a child and doing the legal bare minimum to raise and care for the child. That is the law. They had to house, feed, clothe, care for, and teach you. That is not kindness or something that should be paid back. I can't stand when people have parents that treat that like it's some huge accomplishment that deserves an award of some kind.
Me throughout all this: OH MY GOD CALL THE DAMN COPS
I think Lisa needs to see a psychiatrist because she might have severe schizophrenia and I am surprised that OP's parents are doctors.
You know, I think in most western countries you can legally incapacitate someone and force him to be treated.
Such a kind and sweet doormat, I mean daughter, to help out the people who disregarded her. Couldn't had been me. They would've had to deal with the monster they made.
I also don't feel bad for the parents, they created this monster.
Lisa clearly got it from her parents, with them trying to goad OP into telling them to go and enjoy themselves
I can't believe OP's parents are doctors. First of all, they should know better than anyone the psychological damage favoritism can have on a child's mental well being. Second, she hid her father's medication, she trashed their home, bitch came at them with a knife and they still were hemming and hawing about 'willful mischief,' or saying it has to be voluntary to get an evaluation cause she's 18..she threatened their lives numerous times and been arrested twice ffs, they have cause. Get her committed or get a restraining order. Wtf is wrong with these people? I pity anybody that has them as their doctor, I can't imagine anything would get done with them.
also, it has been clearly shown that the girl is unhinged yet she's staying at her friend's house. I hope OP or the parents let the parents of the friend know what has been happening or that would be really messed up
I find this story hard to believe. As in, OOP’s sister has serious mental health issues, most likely NPD, BPD or something similar, yet their parents never realized the extent of Lisa’s impairment? And when they did, they never addressed it because they didn’t know what to do? And they’re supposedly “well-respected doctors”? I call BS because primary care physicians can diagnose these conditions and know the steps to take to have a patient involuntarily committed.
OOP even claimed that a person can’t be forced to be mentally evaluated, but that’s incorrect, especially if the person in question has been arrested for committing a crime or is behaving in a manner than may be harmful to themselves or others. The police in most jurisdictions of developed countries have the authority to forcibly detain a person who’s demonstrating criminal behavior and behaving erratically, and transport them to a mental health unit for evaluation.
And many states do force inmates to seek mental help during incarceration. Some even talk them into it with plea bargains: get mental help now while you're here and we'll let you out early.
These stories are so relaxing to listen to while sleeping ty for making them everyday bless you
Glad to know I'm not the only one who had parents that chose a Golden Child
Op parents need disown Lisa even if she have a mental disorder she still have resentments toward op.
They took refuge in San Fransisco?? Yikes...
It almost like the parents can only love one child at any time .