The New PlayStation Handheld Is Lame
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2023
- The PlayStation Portal doesn’t look great, or amazing, or even good, but even still, there’s some excitement to be had about a new Sony handheld, right? I mean, a portable PS5, in some capacity might be pretty cool?
Wrong!
This is a disaster.
And today, I’m gonna, talk about that.
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Good to see Sony deciding to compete with their greatest threat: the *Wii U.*
I *WISH* the Portal worked like the Wii U; it might actually be worthwhile if that were the case. But no, apparently Sony is SO incompetent and out of touch that they didn't even give you the option of connecting to a PS5 directly - you MUST use Wi-Fi. What an utter travesty. "Abomination" is completely apt.
This thing is even more DOA than the Wii U and Vita, and Sony continues their trend of releasing half-baked secondary Playstation products that COULD HAVE been amazing if only they'd put some real effort into them.
Remember when they made the PlayStation Move to compete with the Wii?
Then waited 6 entire years to retroactively make it a VR controller?
@@alexcallenderi think they said there is a direct connection wia playstation link
PS Portal design like that make me want to snap it very bad because the attach part controller with screen look easy to snap 😂😂😂
@@mariokarter13 remember when move was out before the wii and nintendo like xbox stole sony ideas and tweaked them
"Sony, you're not Apple. You're not even Nintendo..."
Brutal
@@jabron.destoroyah"Atrocities"
@@jabron.destoroyah "boundless ego"
@@jabron.destoroyahL opinion
@@jabron.destoroyahyou the type of person to legitimately get bothered at other people who have free will who play those “atrocities”.
Yeah they kinda are. They can sell everything and people will buy it.
They really saw the Wii U gamepad and thought "Yes, I want exactly that"
Except they id it worse
If it doesn't have a second screen functionality like the Wii U, then it adds not much value
Heh, the Wii U was the first thing I thought of too. But worse and more expensive. Bang up job Sony!
to be fair......the WiiU gamepad was actually a pretty awesome device just attached to some dead weight lol
Was thinking the same thing
I think comparing the price of a steam deck to the portal is only fair if you consider the cost of the ps5 combined with the portal bc the portal by itself is useless
that’s so true
thats stupid. if you dont have a ps5 you dont need this. makes 0 sense to compare
@@seuper_gamingExactly. It's the same as people saying to get a Switch instead. The Switch can't play PS5 games. 😂
@@frank234561And the PS5 can't play switch games. Also the Portal is $200 and needs a $500 console to play, it's not truly portable, I can't take it on a plane ride or on the metro. The switch is portable, any game on the switch is playable anywhere. The switch is more expensive than the Portal, but it does so much more. This will go the way of the 32x and Sega CD.
Every TV is pointless because they show nothing unless you subscribe to content 🤡
Yeah, guess what, that's why I don't have a TV, or a DualSense, OR a PS5.
I might just get one when this is available though, save me a cool 600 on a TV.
They’ve just made the Wii U again but worse.
That's anm achievement tbh
The wii u would be superior no wifi needed to play on the tablet.
.... How is it worst. You can play with it anywhere with a good wifi connection
@@cybernate9093you didn’t even need wifi for the wiiu 😭
@@cybernate9093you need to pay 700 dollars to use it while the Wii u was 300
The big difference between this and a Wii U gamepad that no one is talking about, is that the Wii U actually used its tablet controller in conjunction with the TV screen in some games. And the games that used this feature well, used it INCREDIBLY well to the point where the tablet was an essential part of the experience. It was more than just a "play while someone else is using the TV" gimmick
I feel like enough people don't talk about how you could buy a portable Android gaming device with built in controls for about $200 with the Ayn Odin Lite. It has all the functionality of the Android platform, while still being able to stream PlayStation and Xbox games perfectly.
NOT TO MENTION, everyone already has a phone. You could buy a Backbone PlayStation controller for your phone, and save $100 and boom you have a PlayStation Portal.
Don’t even need to get a backbone controller. Just get a stand for your phone/tablet.
Plus with your phone you have a cellular connection. Wouldn't be ideal to play with, but at least you wouldn't be 100% tethered to Wi-Fi.
why would i want to do that though? even that is a waste of money when i could buy a steam deck instead.
@@dangdudedan8756 One is base price $400 with a 720p color inaccurate screen with at most 6 hours of battery life, the other is half the cost, smaller, 1080p, and 8+ hours battery life
I mean the Steam Deck is great and all but there's other room in the market for devices that do different things
@@mrshmuga9 It was just to point out there's a similar phone controller with PlayStation branding out there
It's borderline impressive that they made a product that has infinitely less worth than the sum of its parts.
Ahhahahahahah
the $399 steam deck is actually fine. The only difference is storage space (just buy a microSD)
way better than $199 for a tablet that basically doesn't work without WIFI, never understood cloud streaming
I actually bought one last year and I'm pretty happy about my purchase.
However, in retrospect I actually might regret going for the more expensive 650$ model over the regular 400$ version. I ended up buying an sd card and all my games are stored on it so I didn't really need the bigger hardrive space, And while Load times aren't instantaneous, they're reasonably fast enough for me.
In the end though, having my steam library in a portable system was and is still really satisfying.
You can also swap the SSD for another with bigger storage
PS Portal couldn't do cloud gaming, only PS5 streaming.
Thats what I do love about the Steam Deck, Valve is really pro-consumer for a company and basically encourages you to take the thing apart and provides basically everything you need to fix it if you break something. I wish more companies did that; my Alienware Laptop is almost a paper weight right now with no decent parts to fix its fans just because it is out of warranty, ebay has some knockoff ones and there just as bad, and Dell doesn't have the OEM parts after their done selling a device.@@speed3414
Edit: I will say, it is not that you can't fix the Alienware...they are relatively easy to open but because Dell, they stop providing major parts after the device stops selling. They have a "possibly compatible" battery and some overpriced RAM/SSDs, but nothing else.
won't buy steam deck after they did bait and switch. they took preorders then after doing thousands of orders they changed it to make it cheaper and worse then launch one I and many others ordered. after taking year and half to even get me it. I wanted the one I ordered and put money down on. Sony and microsoft can't do that, they have to make a new model number and sku. they even tried to hide it on their site. fuck steam.
Looks like one of those late 2000s Xbox 720 PS4 Wii 2 fan designs.
This will be PlayStation in 2013
Matches up with the actual PS5, pretty sure the kids who made those videos originally now work in Sony's design team
BRO NOT THESE KIND OF VIDEOS LMFAO
They legit saw the least used feature on the PS Vita and said "We should make that the only feature."
The amount of people actually willing to buy this is insane. Sure, it's mildly more ergonomic for this hyper specific use case, than a tablet or phone with a controller clip, but is it $200 better? NO!
If you have that much to spend on such little functionality, you can afford a switch, steamdeck, or it's competetors
The cheapest model of Steamdeck costs twice as much. But a Switch Lite is about the same price and there's no latency.
@@OtakuUnitedStudiothis thing needs a PS5 to function in the first place. Add that to the cost, you need 700 dollars to match the Steam Deck at 400. The Steam Deck is portable, plays games locally *and* can act like a full fat PC in a pinch... Try that with the PS5...
@@OtakuUnitedStudio Ok but you forget one important thing. In case of performance switch doesnt even reach its heels. I will definitely buy that because I have internet connection everywhere with mobile data and I will have better performance than that in switch.
@@OtakuUnitedStudio try as I might I've never been able to fit my ps5 disc into my switch lite can you explain your secret?
@@Lastomir099 Unless you're a big fan of input lag and glitches, there's absolutely no way you're gonna get a nice experience out of this thing on *mobile* reception.
This is the VitaTV all over again, just wait a few months and it'll be in bargain bins!
Except now the PS TV is expensive and sought after. I doubt this will ever be. 😅
@@DP12321totally stuff with a bunch of extra stuff to operate usually are bargain bin forever grate example karaoke games
With the GREAT difference than the VitaTV was a fully fleshed console, instead of a glorified WII U screen. The VitaTVs are now highly seeked machines by the Vita community, specially for video capture.
Except the vita actually has Bluetooth.
Encyclopedia dramatica!
I miss the PSP era
i think you mean the ds era 😘
@@winterwatson6811both are good
This thing is not the PSP we asked for.
The PSP/DS era was the golden era of the handhelds, with games designed/intended to be played on the go. The 3DS/Vita was the Silver era, with similar designs to the previous gen, and retrocompatibility (I'm conflicted if that gen may have been better)
Our current generation (Switch amd Steamdeck) is closer to a more compact laptop than a pure handheld. Great concept, but I miss the design paradigm of the older gens.
I miss the PS1/2 era.
My guess as to why this exists is that some Sony executive saw the Steam Deck and the ROG Ally and said "make me that, but for the PS5" the engineers were probably scratching their heads as to how they could do that and decided to make a local streaming device, probably because the executives specifically wanted it to work with the PS5. Why does it not do cloud streaming? I imagine that to hit a price point that makes any sense sony spent the bare minimum on internals and cloud streaming requires a processor to run a web browser and do video decode, and storage to hold the date for that cloud streaming application, while the specifications needed to do that are minimal, there aren't a lot of bottom tier Socs that can do that, that are still in production, so I imagine that's why that feature got cut.
None of that means the end product is even worth it. They should cancel this thing while they still can.
@@thatguy1080 I mean yeah. It's a complete piece of shit, but odds are given the release date (sometime later this year) these things are already rolling off the assembly line. So canceling it now means Sony loses all the money they've put into these things rather than some or potentially, none.
We thought Google Stadia was bad and now we have Playstation Portal to beat it by a landslide for being worse.
why? they sold the vita as same idea. to stream your ps4 games from ps4 to your vita. its sole reason I used mine. stadia also worked great for me but this is apple to oranges. one is streaming a game from server 200 miles a way and there other is streaming from your ps5 10 feet away. stadia problem was and is google not being patient. Sony playstation didn't just appear and become success in year. it took them 10 years to make and many years to get to where they are. google thought they should be able to pop a AAA game out in 6 months or less.
The vita had MUCH more usage considering it had exclusives
@@sly2792004 The Vita was a full console that could run games natively or emulate games in addition to streaming them. The Vita wasn't sold as "stream your PS4 games to a handheld," it was sold as a competitor to the 3DS.
This is a very good video too. I like you chopping up the live stream and adding another script on top. If this is substantially faster for you than the other videos, I think this is a good way forward.
Sony really took a look at Nintendo's greatest financial failure, the Wii U, and said "Yes please"
Truly one of the remote play devices of all time
I am so sick of this meme comment format.
@@abletothinkTruly one of the comments of all time
@@abletothinktruly one of the replies of all time
Spend $200 on this so that you can play your PS5 in a different part of the house, presumably in the event that you don't have access to the TV it's hooked up to.
OR
Spend less than that on a 32-inch TV that you put in a different part of your home, move your PS5 over to it, and then game on a larger screen than this and get the same results.
But that takes a lot of work and still costs quite a bit, plus you wouldn’t be able to play the games outside of your house and etc. don’t particularly like this sort of device but I don’t think that’s a viable alternative
@@brandondenny226 I’m not saying it’s a particularly versatile device, but if I was someone who liked remote play on my phone, I’d be pretty hyped for this device
You can play outside of your house, or other side of the planet as long as you have a good connection on both ends. That's the only factor. @@brandondenny226
Aside from Steam deck being able to play games locally, its also just a fully functional PC, especially if you have a dock to plug it into a mouse, keyboard, and monitor; The deck is pretty popular with people who want a PC that can play games but also something that can do college work. Aside from just doing its job of playing games better, the deck has actual utility compared to whatever this thing Sony is making.
ok but this is like telling a person who wants a boat to just get a car instead. car has more uses. why would you get boat over a car. maybe cause they want a boat.
Not really, considering if you wait long enough, sony exclusives make it to steam. Making it possible to play on the deck anyways
jailbreak it, connect a 3 port hub to the charging port, add a bluetooth adapter and a flash drive with steamOS to boot from, suddenly it's acrually worth something
You can just buy a pretty decent gaming monitor for that price if wanting to play in a different room is the issue. There are also literally wireless video transmitters you can buy if you don't wanna move the entire console to another room. The lag probably won't be as bad on those either. I actually played through nearly the entirety of spider-man on ps4 this way when it originally released.
I wanna play laying down in bed. I dont think it's for most people but everyone saying it's stupid and has no purpose is stupid. it'll sell millions of them. just cause it won't sell 100 million doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. the only reason I ever used my vita was to remote play my ps4 .
@@sly2792004 you can't lay in bed and play on a tv???? Jesus Christ.
@@Finfection not while im watching tv now. also a lot of people dont have a tv in their bedroom. most houses just have one tv.
@@sly2792004 That's simply false. Lol
@@sly2792004yeah but a gpd (odin I think) is $200, or use a phone clip and your current phone with any blutooth controller.
It's just way too niche
I think when ""this thing"" eventually gets jailbroken it might be uncovered to have a Bluetooth function that turns out to be just software disabled.
Most wifi chips have a BT controller built in. If not, then I guess it can be modded or added trough a tiny USB dongle.
If Sony can't do it, then we'll fix their mistakes ourselves!
You could get a Switch Lite for the same price for this Sony Wii U gamepad. And play those games anywhere! Instead of, you know, in the other room away from your PlayStation.
I'm assuming quality would be the same as normal remote play which means you'd get the same exact result w/ a DualSense paired with your phone (so not the best).
They could've at least taken the opportunity to make it a low latency tethered connection like the Wii U Gamepad and provide a better experience, but no.
@@Joseph-ke3xc From what we've seen it needs a local Wi-Fi connection to work. It'll probably work better than how some devices handle streaming, but I can't see it being a largely better experience free of most of the issues streaming has.
Anyways at this point we'll just see how it actually is when it launches.
Look at features for the device. It features a technology called "link" that improves the latency issues that the remote play app/internet connection has. We'd still have to see actual testing be done on it.
@@VexAcer most the streaming issues are people with low internet speeds which is due to coming from some server in another state. on my local wifi it's over 1g. your internet speed has nothing to do with your local network speed. it only has to travel across the room and back.
@@sly2792004 Yeah I know. That doesn't mean there still aren't potential issues for interference, dropped packets, poor signal, etc. Not everyone is in the same room as their router for example.
Local streaming is a lot more stable, but still isn't free of issues. Especially if the client isn't very good in the first place.
Steam also supports streaming games to your phone. I sometimes play slow games (not Armored Core with hundreds of inputs per second) on my phone via Steam Link, if I want to play laying down or in a different room.
Insert comparison to the Wii U here
I feel like the only person who would enjoy this product (I have motion-sickness on Big TVs, and I liked the Wii U), but I would never spend $200 on an accessory like this.
even for someone like you, there are cheaper alternative solutions that already exist
@@unconcernedsalad2 Like legit, since it requires already owning a playstation you already have the controller it came with and we live in a world where you literally cannot survive without a smartphone. Since the dualshocks/sense work off bluetooth, you can just natively pair it to your phone and do remote play like that for no extra cost. Even assuming you don't have the controller somehow but still have the playstation, that only an extra $60~ USD and like $10~ for a stand for the phone if you don't wanna just lean it off an old battery box.
@@Cr3zantthis is true but I like using my phone for texts and calls not gaming. I've tried playing on my phone a few times and I always get a call or text and it messes everything up
the Vita had this things entire purpose as a single application/feature built in along with being a full handheld console with music/video features built in as well good to see technology going backwards again
Hopefully it's strong enough to be modded to emulate PS2/P/Vita and others.
Otherwise I hope it flops and I hope they lose money.
And that whomever greenlit this stands on a Lego brick.
How many seperate devices does an individual jeed thats modded to play older games? I can understand having one device for that, but not every device needs that
Ah, finally. The Wii U U.
Sony 4U
Knowing cringy ass Sony marketing I wouldn't have been surprised it was named this, but I guess they went with the boring route
@@g1gabyt3BANE?!
You can also use chiaki remote play to play PS4 and PS5 on your steam deck, switch and vita!
SONY : Hey kids , you want some fucking video games?
PEOPLE : Yay!!!
SONY : **Shits in a box and slides it over **
PEOPLE : YAY!!!!
60Hz and 60fps are actually the same thing. Hz is cycles per second or "insert thing here" per second. It's just that Hz tends to be used for display refresh rate and fps tends to be used for graphics performance.
Not quite though. A screen at 60hz can display a 60fps and a 30fps signal but it cannot display a 120fps signal. It can receive the 120fps but the visual benefit won’t be there. They are not the same thing
@@crestofhonor2349literally what… if it says 60hz why would anyone with a brain expect 120 fps???? i really dont understand the logic here
I actually think its more similar to the wiiU gamepad that anything else, that device main feature was to be able to play wiiu without the tv screen. Of course wii u ratius was very small while psportal is about the size of the wifi signal. There, thats the difference.
It wouldnt be a complete playstation generation if there wasnt a few multi-hundred dollar gadgets that nobody would use
5:57 What is that, an led light? Yea thats really going to change everything 😂😂
I want whatever Sony was smoking when they designed and built this thing.
Same thing like in 2006
Someone in sony is getting “high” praises for this failure
PlayStation used to go hand in hand with Sony's multimedia formats. UMDs, Blu-Rays, Media Sticks etc. The PSP and by extension Vita, were an evolution to the Walkman, even though those still exist.
TL;DR, This device is pointless, and I miss when Sony made handhelds that were jam-packed with features. More importantly, their own standalone things.
Propietary memory for the Vita bruh
@@claudiobizama5603 PSVSD
Sony moving their HQ from Japan to California was the death knell. Adios innovation.
Californians couldnt innovate themselves out of a wet paper bag
If this is your example of editing down a live stream, this is perfect. Keep it going
Its just right for me. I dont like remote play on my phone and as we know remote play is hit or miss from Remote play on our phones. So if it works and the connections can smooth out this will be nice to have.
>You're not even Nintendo
Well damn, someone call the burn unit
True, it's not really 3 99, it could be 3-fiddy on a sale or, 3-dub refurb.
Bigger models are mostly there to be your charity donation to Valve.
Upgrade your cheap deck with a fancy screen, hall sticks and/or a max SDD instead -- uncle Gabe wouldn't make the device so modular if he didn't want you to.
I think this device’s sales will really just rely on the latency. If the latency is much much lower than any of the alternatives and works well over long distances (like other countries maybe?) I think this would actually do really good. But that kinda remote play is pretty unrealistic and hasn’t really been done before to my knowledge
It’s not going to work like that, in all the marketing they are just in another room than the console. If it was going to work over long distance, they would 100% market the hell out of that.
yea you're right, at the time of writing i didn't exactly know what it was. overall I think this device is only really good for a super small minority of players who like remote play. i most likely wont be buying it since i dont really have that problem. maybe if it goes on sale tho@@makotoyuki9498
How’s the stick drift on that gamepad?
I’m sorry but the way you say disgusting at the end is the funniest thing 😂
The thing that gets me for this is that they partnered with backbone to turn the phone into a controler for remoteplay and then they make the same product and double the price, i feel like this is going to be there excuse for no future handheld games or switch like hybridisation.
backbone doesn't have adaptive triggers or screen. and requires me to buy a 2nd phone since I downt want to wear down my phones battery doing this or constantly take it in and out of its case. I dont know of any such device that will work with phones in protective case(like most phone uses have)
It's kind of like an even worse Wii U gamepad. It's some how even bulkier
You can already use loads of handheld devices to remote play PS4 and PS5, even a modded ps vita and steam deck can remote play it too
ps vita can already play PS4 I just mean having it modded you can also now play PS5 remote play too and if you have a jailbroken PS3 and modded ps vita you can even get a form of remote play too
I would love to see ps3 portable lol. There were some really good exclusives back then for it.
I may be wrong but isn't this just like that Playstation TV thing but with a screen and controller? and didn't that flop?
those sticks are gonna start drifting after like a month, no mention of any different thumb sticks
wtf haven't nVidia and Google proven that remote play doesn't work? Also can't you already do this over your phone, stream from the playstation? I'd rather they reboot the PSP and use it to compete with the Deck.
Sony already proved it. They tried remote play for PS3 & PS4 & Vita. No one cared. "Hey guys let's Remote Play LAIR for PS3!" - said nobody ever.
I wonder how many people are gonna refund this when they realize its an accessory to a $500 and not a dedicated console. If theres anything the wii u taught us, it's not gonna help sales if customers don't have a clear understanding of what you're selling.
Finally the wii u sequal is out im so hyped
the PS4 Mobile it very technically posible... but probably because of economies of scales the minimal number of sold units to break even it's way to high
If you own a PS5, you probably also have a tablet… just connect your controller to the tablet and play that way for free. You won’t have to hold a heavy tablet +controller combo, and your tablet probably has better battery life anyway, lol.
I used to know a guy who ran a comic book shop and he would keep a Wii U under the counter an pull out the game pad and play Mario Kart when things were slow. So, I guess he can use this thing now?
Probably uses a Switch.
pls find him, find out, and let us know
@@DP12321 he uses a steam deck, and emulates switch on higher quality than the original.
@@baraodascolinas979 Nintendo should take note.
@@DP12321No they shouldn't, if they do pay attention there'll be a C&D involved.
I should pick up one of these for cheap and see if i csn mod it to add an hdmi port and make it into a moniter/usb hub/controller.
"well, it had LED lights..." 😂
I'm very excited for it. Bet that within a year this thing will drop to like $99 and be modded to run steam link.
For a nice controller feel and screen that's a steal.
well apparently we're two of 10 people wonder who the other 8 are lol
the headset thing and earbuds make sense for sony's history with audio as a company
Walkman still exist as a brand by the way
Except(as someone who has sony bluetooth headphones) this still doesnt make sense. Even if you dislike bluetooth as a standard the very least you could do is add... i dunno... an audio jack? this is just trying to one-up an aready pretty shitty trend of pushing a wireless premium on everyone and putting another proprietary layer on top of that.
I gave the remote play functionality a test run today and granted I put it under suboptimal conditions but it was unplayable. I had the playstation on wired connection and my pc on wireless connection. I intentionally picked a game that I didn't think would be very demanding. And choose a 720p limit, It would run surprisingly smoothly for a little while, like 5~ minutes and randomly it seize up glitch out and maybe connect smoothly again for a little while. and rise repeat. I don't really think my setup is out the ordinary, my pc is pretty far from the router and my wifi definitely isn't good but I can stream large videos files without too many issues.
As a long time gamer and PC enthusiast, I kind of get it. PC as an open platform is very compatible, but the experience varies A LOT. Games are released without optimization because developers can blame your hardware instead their own bad optimized game code. You can use many headsets but most people get one with high input lag. And then you have a sea of people complaining about lag, and this starts discussions about what's good, what's bad, what's overpriced... and one can easily get tired and frustrated before even buy something. Or worse, they can buy a bad product with a good brand and reasonable price. The truth is that "console approved" stamps really makes sense, that's why people love the experience with Nintendo Switch. In the end, companies will take advantage and overprice their products, but as an adult that has limited time for gaming, it makes more sense to over pay for a consistent experience that works instead of tinkering all day with settings/products/forums. It "worth it", unfortunately, and they know this.
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to my knowledge the reason why the Wii U's network adapter was SO bad is because it used some variant of the G-band for talking to the tablet. The Wii U was 100% about using "wifi to send a video signal"
$200 can also buy you a second TV so dad can still get angry at Thursday Night Football.
I bet this will sell so poorly, that if you buy a boxed one, never open it, and then give it to your grandkids it'll probably be the Gameboy keyboard of its day.
Oh wow it's like we have switch at home but worse
Honestly they should've made this device connect directly to the console, like what the Wii U had done, or what newer mmWave streamers, like the PeakDo, are trying to accomplish. Penetration issues with millimeter wave aside, they should've found a system to make direct-to-console viable, because the issue with being connected to the network is the typical latency problems, especially on typical low-end residential hardware; hell, even streaming sticks like Roku, etc., have their _own dedicated network_ that they operate off of, for this exact reason. Oh, while we're on the topic of residential hardware, let's not forget one thing that will absolutely _break_ this local streaming setup, network isolations, even the loaner router from your ISP will have AP isolation these days, and typically it's on by default because most people will never properly set up their home network; and I can't wait to see the troubleshooting hellscape this causes, because it's not a Sony issue, yet the Sony product won't work because of it, and I doubt Sony's tech support hellhole will be properly trained to have people look at their network configuration to see if AP isolation is an option and if it's on, because every router has a different flavor of UI/UX. This was Sony's first major fumble here, besides the obvious local streaming only and lack of bluetooth.
Second major fumble is just the design. They could've _loaded_ this thing with a battery, yet it'll get the DualSense battery life at most? They could've based this off the Edge, especially considering you're putting highly consumable components, the carbon wiper potentiometers on the sticks, into another $200 device that now also has a massive screen on it. The overall design itself is ugly, I can understand the sticks and upper menu buttons being over the bezel of the display to reduce some width, but look at the shot showing the back and top, it easily triples and thickness and for what, why does it also look like a tablet cradle from this shot as if it's another Linx Vision, Razer Edge, or Dell Venue 'gaming' tablet; except those were also a PC, though very underpowered. Also, what's on the top of the device behind the display panel, as the panel overhangs the rest of the molding, are those system buttons for the tablet itself, or are those vents for no apparent reason, just what the hell is going on with this design. And speaking of buttons, where's the trackpad features, I can understand touchscreen but where's the trackpad click, there's no way in hell Sony is expecting a touchscreen tap to suffice, we all know how finnicky that can get; and while we're on this topic, does it have the advanced haptics, does it have gyro, etc.
The third major fumble, which some people might not agree with, is the lack of additional functionality, such as doing a Wii U pad clone where you have two displays. Remember how PS Move would get game integrations, there's no reason developers shouldn't have an option to have a secondary screen as display and input. And the great thing about this is that you could use phones with game streaming with this feature as well, though UI scaling could get a bit weird, but it's a niche enough circle that this shouldn't be a hurdle. This would be helpful with UI-heavy games ore menu-heavy games, even games that give you an assload of text, like what RPGs can get into, would benefit from this. It's not a bad idea and it's fully implementable with somewhat minimal effort on both game engine and game dev sides. It's a niche QOL thing, like how the Wii U itself fit a niche crowd (not talking about sales numbers, talking about the dual screen usability feature), like how the Steam Controller was a niche tool with massive feature set aspects; or within the realm of Sony, how the Vita had both a touch screen and rear touch pad, or again how Move introduced the overhead for feature set beyond what just standard controls provided. What they should've done is borrowed from the various handheld designs, the Steam Deck has general approval ergonomics-wise and it even has four rear buttons, and that kind of device profile (mostly flat back with finger insets) would've allowed for so much more room for batteries within the Portal.
Though I can see why Sony did this, the tablet with controllers. It's a unified experience, if you want the 'proper' game streaming experience you choose the first party device, not a phone with a weird aspect ratio with either a proper controller with a phone clip or one of those janky mobile controllers that clamp around your phone. It's like how PSVR/PSVR2 only works on first party headsets, and not just any random headset you can get your hands on. Sony thinks this is the proper size of display for the experience, just literally every other aspect of the device is lacking severely. Do I agree with the price tag? Not really, especially for what it is and what it's capable of; though can anyone agree with Sony's pricing of any peripheral as of late? I think it's a baby step in the right direction, but Sony is fumbling their first attempt, and they'll abandon it when people don't like it, rather than going through the proper development steps and providing something decent off the bat; lack of bluetooth in such a simple device is a clear indicator that this is severely underdeveloped and that the end product is closer to a prototype than anything, the godawful design is another indicator of this.
I just don't get Sony this generation. Weird controller API(s) that end up as a walled garden (see lack of third party support and lack of API conversion sticks, plus the fightpad situation), their stance on first party games and ports (see noticeable drop in performance on the PC side, plus their asinine controller API situation there as well), the PSVR2 situation, and now this plus the headphone situation. Sony is going heavy into the anti-consumer bullshit, Xbox is the opposite, and Nintendo is off in their own little world as always.
If they had made GTA San Andreas Stories for the VITA it would have sold soooo much more. I bought a PSP for the same reason back in the day for Liberty and Vice stories.
For whatever reason, I havent been able to keep connected to remote play via phone as soon as I connect a controller via bluetooth. Always boots me out with error. Anyone else? Been going on for years.
Former PlayStation exclusives are now playable on the Steam Deck, thanks to Sony's efforts in porting popular titles such as The Last of Us, Spider-Man, God of War, and others to the PC platform. This contrast further highlights the superiority of the Steam Deck compared to the combination of the DualShock 5 and tablet, which some may consider to be a rather awkward pairing.
Not only that, but the steam deck supports game modding. So you can be playing Spider-man with nexus mod suits
I can't WAIT until jailbroken versions of these sell on ebay for a hundred twenty bucks
I'm gonna be honest, I see the appeal of playing a console in bed which is why I liked the Wii U controller but that was over 10 years ago.
We can stream games on our phones now with an attachable controller, this is just literal e-waste in waiting
I’m using remote play right now as I watch this video on CZcams at the same time on my iPad using AirPods. AND I’m using cellular data because I can.
I just named 3 things the Pulse can’t do.
It's like if they made the WII U tablet but the main console doesn't need the thing
It's funny how you talk about the Steam Deck. I've been streaming my PS4 on the Steam Deck via Chiaki for over a year now.
I mean, it can work and I would go for that if I had a ps5; however, the price and the fact it requires wifi and not synchronization like the wii u draws away from becoming a worthy unit to get.
Just imagine how elegant it could look on the shelf above your toilet
I like this channel, even though I only have a PS2 and an NES emulator 😅
it's great to see someone dig up the corpse of the original NVIDIA shield (not the tv) again... hopefully it's another flop too.
I will say the Shield handheld was a GREAT little emulation box.
this was an awesome video. the laughter, frankly.
“What was that dumbass idea that Google had? Yeah, that went well. Let’s do something like that”.
At least the WiiU Gamepad would also interact with games in a unique way. This is just a WiiU Gamepad with even less features.
This whole thing made that Logitech streaming setup look good by comparison lmao
I haven't finished the video YET, but I already want to say I WISH Microsoft/Xbox would make one that has Bluetooth, ability to connect to X-Cloud, and a few other features you were listing in the beginning. I like the idea of using my PC to do it, but in all honesty, I find myself never using the PC feature because my laptop is quite... Well, it takes up less room than this emerging handheld market. I just want one for my Xbox games because in practice I still play on my Xbox instead of my PC and streaming to my laptop is ok but would be better if I had a handheld. I don't want to spend money on a cheap Steam Deck when all I want is to stream from my Xbox. I'm jealous of Sony fans even with its shortcomings like no Bluetooth.
Edit: I say all of this because I have an iPhone AND even if iOS let me stream Xbox games to it, I want a designated device to help not encourage smartphone addiction while having a decent battery so my smartphone remains mostly/fully charged.
Sony is a bit nostalgic with the old proprietary wire, software and files on sony tech in the late 90s and 2000s
The only difference in steam deck pricing is how much built in storage you want
And that carrying case
This guy sounds like knowledge husk, is it another of his channels or is this just an accent im hearing and its someone else?
"This rubs me the wrong way"
As a cat, this sounds way more unpleasant coming from you
I think it’s meant to confuse consumers who know nothing about video games too buy this accidentally instead of a switch. Especially with the holiday season coming up where switches notoriously are always sold out
Remember, it's not a stand along device and it's not marketed as such. It's a controller accessory.
A dualsense costs $70, an 8 inch lcd screen capable of 60fps would cost about $100. The form factor and "link" technology added on, for $200 total. Not bad. Maybe not what you need, but there can be a market for it.
So does it have to be the same wifi that your ps5 is connected too?
I don't think so, but the further you are from it the higher the latency. Meaning if you are on vacation and use it to stream from your console at home, you're going to have to deal with up to a full second of delay.
You can even remote play from another continent. But the latency will be horrendous, you could only play turn based RPGs at that point.
Cloud gaming would be the answer to that, since the game will be on a server with lower ping and with a higher upload speed than the household internet connected to your PS4/5
Lol
Let's make a -WiiU- PS5 extension!
Wow just finished the vid
Wii U had better latency holy hell
4:17 Stadia 😢
Literally Sony made this just to use the excuse that “no, no one likes our portables so that’s why it didn’t sell well” absolute shitty product made by Sony. At least make it an android device with a ps5 interface
What if they made a handheld that could download your ps4/5 games so you can play them on the go offline?
It's like Sony wanted to Remaster Nintendo Land, but with Astrobot & Other Sony Characters.
I thought this was fake when I first saw the picture. The fact that they wasted resources on this garbage, that this thing made it through all of the checks and balances required to leave the concept stage and make it to actual production is mind numbing.