PlayStation Portal: A remarkable failure ⚠️
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I use remote play a decent amount to access my PS5. It's amazing how much worse the experience is on Sony's own proprietary hardware.
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Anddddd Sony is never sending you anything for free again. 😂
Integrity is a painful thing to have.
@@nujevad28it is always nice to see a CZcamsr finally get big enough to have integrity.
It's worth it to call out Sony for this trash tbh
They're not doing him a favor by sending a free device to advertise for them. They got what they deserve.
Views from this video will pay for those future losses
thats microsoft behavior, he will still get free stuff
Man PSP was so ahead of its time even Sony cannot reach it.
The screen on it alone blew me away. It still looks like a modern smartphone screen; There was nothing else like it on the market.
PSP games were amazing, and you could even play PS1 games, almost all of them!!
It's not even ahead of its time cause the screen wasn't even a touch screen. There's also no online play.
I think you mean Vita, PSP was pretty dope but right with the times in the 2000s.
The psp vita?
5:13 "this Android tablet is stuffed with proprietary [voiceover: software]" 10:1 odds he said "shit" in the original recording 🤣
I read that as it happened lol
No software Sherlock
I respect you so much for this. Im going to join your membership based purely on your honesty. If anyone deserves support its a content creater with a spine.
Yeah I know right? Sony sent him this for free and he was still honest and didn't turn into a simping shill like a lot of them do.
It’s why I subbed to the channel 🫡
The mute button take is sooo agreeable. Like who at Sony thought this would make sense. Like maybe they’re just collecting our data…
Maybe they just wanted to push widely used mic chat on PlayStation finally, even though the novelty of 2009 Xbox Live MW2 lobbies is long behind us
It's not a maybe. They are collecting our data
It is depressing how much people fought back against the Xbox one 10 years ago and how we ended up here today.
they absoLUTELY are.
@@DiceRoboSony repeated almost every mistake that led to the Xbox one failing and now they even released a worse Wii U gamepad.
I see a lot of people who compared the Portal to the Wii U gamepad, but the Wii U had a dedicated wireless network between the console and gamepad. That way if your wifi was congested/slow or you were offline the gamepad would still work. You would have very few frame drops unless you got too far from the console
Not to mention the gamepad also serves as a secondary screen with unique gameplay features, whereas the Portal is just straight mirroring.
And let’s not forget, the Wii U game pad was INCLUDED with the console. You have to go out of your way and pay half as much as your PS5 for this hunk of junk
@@tempeenak134that's the dumbest comment I've read in a while. Good job
This needed to be one of the Portal’s capabilities out of the box.
This is a good point to think about. This older technology provided latency up to 100ms LESS than what would be seen out of your tv. Meanwhile the Portal has latency between 60-100ms MORE than what is being displayed on the tv the ps5 is connected to.
21:07 Would've loved to see the video the week your Xbox 360 died lol
Those WiFi mesh systems tend to suck in my experience, much lower bandwidth, especially if you aren’t using Ethernet as the backend to connect each and every one of them, but even then they still tend to add a bunch of ping and jitter.
I always recommend people just get a giant powerful wireless router with a ton of real external antennas on them and aim them properly. On my property I can pull full bandwidth in any room or outside, whereas when I tried the Asus WiFi mesh system my bandwidth halved and ping grew by 20% or so best case scenario.
That time for your packets to hop across air and be processed and sent twice really adds up.
I don't care if Sony hates your guts after this review, I appreciate the brutal honesty. The best part is you were cynical but practical and I'm not annoyed by it at all unlike other reviews that lean negative on a product. I genuienly think this review was loaded with thoughtful information that comes from a man with years of experience testing controllers and other remote play devices and he's not afraid to tell it's a piece of crap if it's a piece of crap. Well done dude!
I keep hearing half and half sum ppl aren’t having lagging issues idkk
@@stevensanchez7740just hold out until Playstation makes something better
I am a little concerned about what happened, since he says he also gets the lag on smartphones, but I haven’t really seen any lag or issues at all on my iPhone 14 and 15 pro max.
I’d need to see a review from someone who has a near perfect experience on iPhone to know how much this device really sucks.
I think they just rushed this thing out. It’s JUST a streamer. Sony didn’t have to do anything special to win here. They literally could’ve just copied Logitech. Start with a basic tablet with good battery life. Make a Sony software theme on top of Android, give it the Sony sexy style and design and send it off. Bam woulda been a hit. No, Sony always gotta be difficult…
He's a cuck for Nintendo anyways
Man, when the WiiU Gamepad does what you're trying to do a decade earlier and better at that, failure isn't nearly harsh enough.
"but.... you can play the ps portal anywhere! not just in your house!"
as if you'll be taking this anywhere with you lol. i'm pretty sure the wii u gamepad is more portable too.
Wii-U gamepad didn't need wifi, and allowed you to play your video games offline, and without a router. You just needed to be close to the console. Someone at Sony's R&D seen the Switch, and said "Holy shit! Let's copy the Wii-U, and make it shittier!"
@@mrbisshieI'm confused. It seems to me that you're saying that the wii u was somewhat shitty.
@@Shyguy2434 the Wii U gamepad sucked, no doubt about it, but at least it had a stable connection and at least some of the games made use of the Wii U gamepad's features. The PlayStation Portal on the other hand, is just plain shit.
@SamSquids While I agree with you Partially the wii u game pad is hella comfortable to hold.
Even if you won't get any review products from Sony, you absolutely killed it this review!
Thank you! After watching several other reviews of the Portal, I was beginning to think I was the only person having the issues you describe: unpredictable stuttering, frame drops, poor video quality and, most importantly, connections that work fine one time but not another. It's good to know that someone else with a stable internet connection and the knowledge/skill to find and fix problems is nonetheless having the same issues I am having.I no longer feel like vox clamantis in desertos (a voice crying in the wilderness).
Even the Sony fanboy dreamcast guy complained the same issues in his review
I thought I was tripping as well. The very first time I played on the Portal, it worked amazing in my bed. I thought I struck gold. Second time was the same, but then the third night it was terrible and I tried to use it one time in the morning as well and it was terrible connection again while my Internet was showing 300+ mbps down (I have fiber internet as well) so what’s up with this dumb Portal being so inconsistent? Sony needs to do huge patches to the thing otherwise it’s a big failure.
Try turning off PS5 updates and downloads in back ground. Internet connection improves greatly
You have to have your ps5 internet hooked up up with line cable not WiFi to have a Steady connection and functioning the right way
I’d love to know what Sony’s test setup was for the Portal. I’m betting it’s WAY better than 90% of Americans’ wi-fi and streaming capabilities.
Doesn't even matter, people with fiber optic 1gb+ wifi are still saying it has streaming issues.
EDIT: I am not implying that it is worse than any other way to stream. The issue is that it isn't better but an expensive option that can only do one thing as opposed to every other device.
@@arthurdurhamthat's because the internet speed isn't what matters. It's how good your _local_ connection is. And even that isn't the primary issue with PS Remote Play. Their encoder sucks.
@@mechanicalmonk2020 I didn't feel the need to get into the nitty gritty and add bandwidth, Ethernet, wifi protocol, etc bc my point was people with terrific Internet and in the right environment are still having streaming issues
@@mechanicalmonk2020 but they say you can use it in different houses, like you could with the Vita and PS4?
i got flooded with reviews about it and they all said its AWESOME, idk feels like they got paid quite a bunch to make it look insanely "good" even some compared it with the steam deck and gave it a 8/10 while steam deck got a 7/10 as comparison. i was mindblown that they even said its the perfect streaming device. i actually believe they live in a different world than I do.
Let's be real, when they asked about where we intend to play it, the question was never about locations outside your house. The toilet would be my guess for the most likely answer in single households, the living room, when the TV is occupied would be my runner-up for shared living spaces.
That's probably why it only works greatish sometimes, when you sit pretty much next to your router.
EDIT: Also the airplane mode is just hilarious.
I'm pretty sure that Sony also marketed this console to work outside the home too, meaning you can take it pretty much anywhere. So there's that. Either way, Sony lied.
@@jordanking7711 bro Sony didn’t lie
Do you have one ?
If not stop talking and spreading lies
It works outside ur home dude lol 😂
@@michaelmyersplays4992 Oh cool, so it works on public wifi networks now that require you to accept their ToS does it? It doesn't drain your mobile data if you decide to hotspot it to your phone? My apologies
@@michaelmyersplays4992Sony pony providing them w/ free marketing I see 🤣🤣
@@michaelmyersplays4992 Pfft Ya as long as the internet youre trying to connect to doesnt require a internet browser to sign into.
because sony dont know what that is apparently.
Wulff Den really has become a main stay in my cycle of videogame tech, and for that I just want to say "Thank you".
This is hands down the most honest, direct and entertaining handheld review......period. I stream using the logitech g cloud and guess what...I can also stream xbox game pass, play EVERY retro gaming console without wifi AND i have all the apps of an android tablet. Soooooo we have a winner.
You know what's weird? The WII U Gamepad did a FAR better job than this way before too!
And came with a different use case and different limitations. Not really worth the comparisons.
@@xMRxLAMAx It's a fair comparison IMO. It's not derrogatory, I have a WII U and is was cool to play offscreen while having no lag at all. The thing is the Wii U range is far limited compared to wifi, which you can "extend" as far as your setup allows.
Nah there's a reason why Nintendo want to burry that console so bad next to the virtual boy.
@@theunknown7441 And yet so much of the Switch's best games are Wii U games.
@theunknown7441 I really could care less about what Nintendo thinks of it.
I judge a product for what it offers, not because everyone is buying. And here we are comparing remote play capabilities.
The PS Vita at launch was $250, and later the same price as this ($200). The perfected Steam Deck OLED model is $50 more than a PS5, and you can play just about anything from every era on it (and that's without even talking about emulation, just what the Steam store makes available and affordable). I think Sony has made these decisions really easy for us.
As much as I love my SD OLED. You'll have a shitty experience playing new AAA games like Alan wake 2 on the SD OLED. Some games are made to be played on a Big ass OLED TV. Not on a handheld like the SD or the ROG Ally. A small screen just doesn't do it justice.
@@UmVtCgI bought Lenovo Legion Go instead because of it's big screen among other things. I don't play much AAA Games on it besides Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order which runs at over 60 FPS. I prefer smaller games on a handheld. I have 2.5 TB SSD on mine.
@@UmVtCg "You'll have a shitty experience playing new AAA games like Alan wake 2"
That's all you had to say.
@@Mr_Tooty 4real 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@UmVtCghmmmm, I have the Xreal glasses to use with my deck.
I'm pretty sure Sony fixed that Mic issue like years ago by changing the default setting
It's like they wanted to hop in on the handheld craze right now but they knew that it would be very difficult and expensive to have the capability to run AAA titles natively. So instead they just put a screen on a controller and used the remote play tech that already exists. Good stuff
7:21 "in my own house" it the stupidest reply you could ever give. The answer could've been "laying in bed", "in my backyard", "in my living room".
"Where are you planning to play?"
"ON PLANET EARTH, DUH"
Yeah it's pretty obvious how butthurt he is over this thing. Either blinded by his hate boner for it, or just being disingenuous.
Airplane mode on an internet-only device is honestly hilarious
It’s a legal necessity in portable tech like this due to the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) requiring it because of critical aircraft instruments.
@@MoviePhone431
Thank you for pointing this out. I like Wulfden but this is childish commentary by him to incite flaming.
@@MoviePhone431regardless you would have it off since it is useless without wifi
@@MoviePhone431I understand now that its because there are laws forcing this feature but its ridiculous, the FCC should have made an exception for this product. Feels like Sony and the FCC didn't talk it out at all...
The Vita at least supported ad hoc WiFi from what I recall. So if you were in the general vicinity of your PS4, it worked pretty well. The only real issue was the lack of physical trigger and stick buttons. The Portal feels like a half-arsed measure to cash in on the portable craze. Thing is Sony could have made a Steam Deck like system that could play PS4 and PS5 titles locally. The Ryzen Z1 Extreme can deliver a Series S/PS4 Pro level of performance. That probably would have been a big win.
I'd have preferred they made a device that could play PS4 games on the go, and stream PS5* games. But they're not going to, because only 5 people including myself bought the Vita.
*I said stream because you'd never get a handheld as powerful as a PS5 before 2026 at earliest, 2030 at best. People already complain that the PS4 is "holding back" PS5, imagine all the whining if PS5 games have to be downgraded to be able to run on a handheld device.
Thanks for your honest review, as always. While the Portal isn't completely useless in of itself, it seems to have been designed just for the sake of it. Well, that's money saved for me. :)
17:09 That's actually extremely common for Sony. The PSP and the PSVita both used proprietary memory cards for storage expansion. You couldn't just go down to your local tech store and pick up a SanDisk SD Card, it had to be a Sony SD Card. Gets even better, Sony SD Cards would not work with anything other than a PSP or Vita(I assume to prevent people from plugging them into their PC and side loading things onto the PSP or Vita). The fact that the PS5 DualSense works natively out of the box with IOS being MFI Certified blew my mind due to Sony's history about locking their stuff down so hard. Both their PSP and Vita also used proprietary disks, meaning that they could not be read by anything other than the system they were intended for. They also tried to sue two emulator manufacturers once it was known you could play PlayStation games on a PC from the actual disks, because that was supposed to be proprietary as well. The PS3 was also chocked full of proprietary-ness. The PS4 DualShock 4 in the beginning was also locked down to the PS4 and required some creative workarounds to connect it to a PC and get most of it's basic functions to work. Even now a PS4 DualShock 4 doesn't connect very well to PCs. PS4 and PS5, last I checked, also still won't accept XBox branded controllers as a viable control method, wired or wireless. And if/when they do, it's a severely degraded setup. Third party controllers have a better time connecting, but it's still going to be a lesser experience. Sony has always been about that "If you are on a PlayStation, then you will ONLY use our stuff". And this wouldn't be so bad except that with proprietary, comes a price hike. Sony LOVES to jack up the price on their proprietary equipment to double, sometimes even triple(or more) the price of the equivalent non-Sony branded tech. Want to use wireless earbuds for your gaming? No no no, don't get those $20usd earbuds you saw on Amazon, buy our $200usd earbuds.
I stand buy a statement I made on the PS Portal a while back: It's a downgraded PSP/Vita. Both of those could connect to the PS3 and stream games from the console(It was an earlier time and modems were a lot worse back then, so the quality is forgivable), but they also had their own library of games that could be played without the console. And they could be taken out of the house and away from the WIFI, and still play games. This, they took the idea of locked down to the next level by locking it down to your house. This was intended for people with giant five bedroom houses and a WIFI signal that covers their entire five acre property. So they can sit next to their pool and play some Spider-Man. The average user, unless they are extremely lazy(which is very likely), can just buy a spare HDMI and power cable for each of their rooms that have a television and set it up so all they have to do is move the console. It's not like the thing weighs as much as a Volkswagen. And it would be hundreds cheaper than getting a PS Portal just to play while laying in bed. Though it would not surprise me to learn that a future PS5 firmware update requires you to register your HDMI cable, and then locked the console to ONLY that cable. And it has to be a Sony branded cable. With special connectors that only a Sony branded television will have. The $3,000usd PS5 television that is built to look like the PS5.
I'm pretty sure that you won't read this as it's long, and the video is about 5-6 hours old. But this video has earned you some respect from me. You were provided a product for review, and unlike others who will tow the line to get that cash payout, you did not mince words, or only show the good things to try and dupe others into getting it. And that is something I can respect.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I get that Sony is a hardware company first and foremost, but the amount of closed ecosystem BS is getting ridiculously anti-consumer. $200 for a screen attached to a controller and WiFi connector? $200 for PS-specific headphones which the devices will force you to use by not allowing Bluetooth, the standard everyone has? Playstation has become for the Payers.
At least if you get the items together for a psvita or a psp you can still do fun stuff with them even now. Hearing in the review that you need to use a app to pair this to the PS5 just spells out how much of a paperweight this will be in the future. They could have made it work from the ps5 direct to the system so it will work in 5-10- 15 years down the road. But no, Sony have made it extremely clear from the driveless system and the disc drive upgrade needing online activation, that they do not care about how what you buy will work in the future.
If a stingy company like Nintendo allows the use of SD / Micro SD cards, then you know something's really wrong with Sony. 😅
Small correction: The PSP memory stick duos were actually not exclusive to the PSP, it was a proprietary format SONY was trying to push at the time. If you bought a camera from them at the time for example, it would use those as well, and their laptops also had a reader for the format. I remember this because we used to own a lot of SONY products at the time!
@@ColasTeam Also all SD Cards at the time only supported 2gb maximum, It wasn't until 2006 and SDHC that they went up to the same capacity as the Pro Duo. I can't find much information on the speed difference between them, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was also a factor.
Thanks for your honesty, Bob! I thought it was weird that only a few reviewers were mentioning the audio issues. You can really tell who's licking Sony's boots by how positive their reviews were.
ymmv applies to this.. you can see with some video reviews that their ps portal works almost flawlessly.. it there's a video proof then it's not actually boot licking..
@@BL4CKF4NG Its easy to only show the times when it works well and conveniently exclude the times when it doesnt.
@@SSID94 that's why i mentioned mileage with this device may vary.. and it's unfair to imply other revieeers were probably faking their "better experience" than wulf..
Just one more reason why Nintendo continues to win in the portable department. The sleep mode feature on the switch functions like that of a smartphone, and you never have to worry about the switch turning itself off for no good reason except the battery is completely dead.
And though I don't think the OG switch is all that pocketable, it is much more pocketable than something like the PS Portal, or the steam deck.
I also think Nintendo was right to make a smaller version of the switch.
It’s a worse version of the psp 10 years alter stop glorifying that greedy company. There’s a dozen better handhelds for 100 dollar more then switch. And I and my family own em. Waste of money
I’ll call it innovation when the device comes with something to protect the analog sticks from drift
The switch isnt even good either. 2 bad doesnt make 1 good
Lol nobody wants to buy legacy Nintendo anymore
What was that ps5 vita remote play app you have and what site did you download it from ?
Funny that Sony doesn’t like Bluetooth cause of the possibility of lag when they unleash this abomination
Best honest Portal review so far. Why this thing doesn’t (also) have an out-of-the-box proprietary wifi connection between itself and the console, is truly baffling. It’s the thing that Wii U locally already did excellently. Having to bounce this thing via your local wifi network is just stupid.
Yup working via local connection but they didn't do it.
Is honest but mostly subjective. He may have all sorts of issues while others are enjoying this device a lot and not thinking is a standalone console
There's no point in the PS5 having a proprietary WiFi hotspot feature. If they had done this, you would have needed to be within close proximity to the PS5 to use the remote play feature. Which defeats the purpose of the Portal.
An 802.11ax router will have a much stronger signal than anything the PS5 would be capable of, and you have most likely placed your router in a better location for wide coverage. People complaining about local WiFi being an issue have simply never properly configured their WiFi.
@@milo_andrsThe only people who enjoy this thing are either shills or have extremely low standards. The review has mostly objective points (comparison to PSP, Wifi 5, random PS5 shut downs), so what you claim is purely bogus and disingenuous.
@@koushuu You clearly haven't tried it. Think about it. Why would you compare a controller with the PSP, I'll give you the WiFi 5 as it is not latest standard, but throughput over 5ghz standard is more than enough for LAN streaming. Lastly random ps5 shutdowns? Sorry mine doesn't do that at all 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly you can safely say the reviewer has great network equipment probably not set properly and devices hat are defective. This does impact his experience, bit is by no means the same for everyone else.
Cant believe Sony who was once synonymous with quality has stooped so low.
Sony absolutely phoned in this product. The lack of bluetooth audio support is anti consumer as hell.
Sony really did take a look at the Wii U and said "fellers, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS *OBJECTIVELY WORSE*"
This would've been interesting if it had decent specs that could play PS1 and PS2 games. Not sure why they just focused entirely on remote play.
Yeah like make psn on it. For ps1 ps2 psp games..
To be fair, almost any Android device nowadays has specs that match the PSP. This could have easily run older PSP software but Don't decided to just not do that
I can’t remember a time that I didn’t want to be In front of my PC and OLED 240hz monitor
It seems like a lot of your issues were network related. I get that the Portal has to work with a variety of networks but I have played a lot of Spiderman 2 on mine with no audio issues at all. I have my PS5 hardwired to ethernet and my dual band router was only about 80 bucks from Walmart so I probably have a way worse router than you would have. Also I played about an hour and a half of Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty on it last night and it ran perfect with no lag, artifacting or audio issues at all. I also got a 3.5mm to bluetooth adapter and it works good for bluetooth audio. Even using that there was still no audio lag or issues. Also based on your PS5 issues you might need a new PS5, it seems defective if it turns off by itself and your remote play needs to be reset all the time. That's not normal.
Same...I been playing chorus and I have zero connection issues and it works really really well. I enjoy the portal..it's a great accessory. Way better than using my phone and less cumbersome than using my laptop
I literally thought this was a photoshop meme until right now
If you have good internet this is fine but still extremely pointless when your phone or tablet can do the same thing
Yep, pointless to you. A motorcycle is useless to someone who only wants to drive a car. You are not the target audience for it which is fine
9:28 Hey there! Noticed your PS5 might be overheating - try placing it horizontally for better cooling. Vertical position can sometimes lead to heat buildup. Hope this helps! 👍
Gravity also moves the thermal paste. Better to always place it horizontal.
Subscribed due to passing the integrity check. Keep up the good work man. The world needs honest reviewers we can trust.
Amazing video! Usually when I see these "ad" videos, the CZcamsr is always saying how amazing the item is and saying some weird and small drawback just to show they were being "honest." You even mention things that even the non-ad CZcams videos didn't mention (like the PS5 turning off when you're away, so the device is useless). Keep up the great work!
ngl ive seen one that praised the thing like heaven and mentioned "there are some issues, but for me it runs so smooth" 1 clip later showing gameplay it was actually stuttering and he was like it never happened & called it a flawless device. surely not paid at all.
My only issue is lag. If the ps5 is off the portal can wake it, I'm half way across the country for thanksgiving and it turns on and connects to my ps5 no issues. But playing a game is not worth it, honestly the switch oled is a better value imo. Might try steamdeck OLED. Idk lol
From the reviews I've seen I would expect us to get something in the middle...so I think it is good to see both kinds of reviews to know what could be. Really happy for the harsh and honesty reviews like this one!
So nice to hear an honest review...big psp and vita fan and feels like a step backwards. The Vita turned me on to OLED and now others like Nintendo/Valve running with it and Sony dropping the ball. Just give us a SONY steam deck level system...plays the same games at lower rez but natively.
...but thats Exactly what this does! i have seen NONE of the issues this guy shows in his review, NONE. I urge anyone who has stuttering or latency issues to go get their home network sorted out.
@@ScowlerJaseit's a $200 device that requires a $500 console. The steam deck is $550 and requires nothing else and is dead simple to set up, and actually has games, and once you install the games you never need internet on it again. There is literally zero reason to buy into this thing, especially since you need to be tethered to your home or have the console turned on for days at a time when you aren't home just in case you have an itch for Spiderman 2 for the 30th time
@@ExtraThiccc The Steamdeck ( which I also own ) is anything but simple to setup, you spend more time dumbing down the games to get any decent performance from them , than actually playing the game. Also - the battery then lasts about 90mins if you are lucky - and all this on a sub-par lcd screen. The PS5 does not need to be left on for days - it’s in rest mode as mine always is and woken up when remote play connects. You do not need to be tethered to your home at all - I have used it from a different country than my PS5. Honestly , unless there is a PC game I want to play while away from home , I will pick the portal up to take over the steamdeck from now on. Your mileage may vary.
@@ScowlerJase dude the steamdeck guides your hand through the entire process of setting it up, took me like 5 minutes of pressing buttons, the rest of the setup is automatic, ie downloading updates and games. I've been able to get a solid 2.5 hours out of playing dying Light and ets2 on it, granted i run it at default graphics since theyre perfectly fine 95% of the time. Even then adjusting graphics settings takes minutes. And "setting up games to run on the steamdeck"? Not my fault you wanna play world of warcraft on it, I'm content with the dozens of games in my library that directly support the steam deck with zero set up (literally just install and play) and the other hundred or so that support it but occasionally has a glitch or two, or dont restrict graphical settings on it, so it doesn't have the green check mark. And the playing the PSPortal in whole other countries? Dawg I'm calling cap, it's been out for like couple weeks, how many countries can you even go to in that time? Besides, value beats out the portal by a good couple hunge, let alone the fact that Sony games are coming to steam anyways, and for cheaper, so why even bother?
@@ScowlerJase Did you even buy or play a Steam Deck?
That default on microphone is also a headache in PC has well. The dualsense attempts to take over the microphone permissions which usually only ends half way and the PC just not recognizing any microphone because windows won’t allow just anybody to force on the microphone.
Yo! Love da show couldn’t help but notice your sick HD cam picked up all the finger prints all over the psp in the rotating shot shop 6:53… You guys do great work
If AVGN reviews modern game consoles by any chances, this is definitely gonna be one of them
idk, avgn is promoving new stuff he doesn't like
If by "review" you mean "painstakingly read an unfunny script written to him as he barely puts any life or passion into his acting and jokes" then yes, I guess. 😅👍
@@manuelpatino7863for real, that guy is so fucking unfunny
I feel like reviewers like IGN and even Linus are giving this waaaay too much leeway when they’re given a 200$ product for free to ‘review’. If this was an Xbox or pretty much any other company product this thing woulda been shat on for weeks. Really appreciate how in depth this review actually was.
So you just want confirmation bias, and that's it.
@@MrReggarno they just wants honesty
Fake reviews Linus treats this flimsy toy better than his female enployees
Im pretty sure the reason is just that they have way better wifi setup than wolfsden.
@@coconutoil8948agree. The honestly is that this channel need to admit that his network setup sucks
Idk if this is the case for you, but when I first got my PS5 I had issues with it randomly shutting off, and through a little bit of testing I figured out it was because of power consumption being plugged to a full power strip. I think it takes up a lot of juice and when it can't have the focus for power, it shuts off. I tried plugging it into power strips with only 2 other devices and directly into the wall and now I have no issue with it shutting off randomly. Also for the microphone, there's a setting in the system settings that reverses the microphone feature to do exactly what you said. It starts muted by default, and you habe to turn it on to use it. Why that wasn't the default is still poor design on their part, but it can be remedied.
Portal is fantastic. I never have connection problems. I’ve been playing it since day one and love it Maybe the remarkable failure is your network
Really? I want to buy 1 but I'm afraid of these issues
@@davidsantiago3360 I’m sure it’s a little different for everyone, but I love mine. I have a mesh network setup in my home. I’m not sure if that makes a difference or not, but my portal is practically 1 to 1. Sometimes I forget it’s remote it feels so good.
Most, if not all, videos about the Portal showed stutters and/or frameskips, I was confused because many of them said that it's working well 😅
If only they put the effort on a proprietary tech for a much better streaming, not that it's not yet proprietary, instead of the proprietary audio tech. Sure better audio is nice to have but the streaming part is literally the main function of this device 😄
6:54 I love the close-up, rotating beauty shots of the Vita just absolutely covered in fingerprints. That's keeping it real.
I agree. I appreciated that detail haha
I appreciate this review and subscribed for two reasons: 1. I haven’t laughed as hard as I did watching this in a minute and 2. The brutal honesty was definitely needed. I’ve seen a few reviews and they’re singing praises for a device that’s doing exactly what our phones (and in my case my iPad Pro) has been doing for a while now and insult to injury it sucks at it. I’m glad I didn’t set $200+ on fire buying this. Hopefully Sony right their wrong somehow, maybe build a pro that does what it should’ve done in the first place.
Nothing but respect man. People should look into the Abxylute handheld. You can remote play Series X, PC, Steam, and PS5. You can play local Android games as well as emulation up to PS1. Hall effect analog sticks,.1080P/60hz screen. Expandable storage. Comes with a case as well and compact. It's the same price as the Portal.
Finally someone who isn't afraid to share how they acc feel about the product. The reviews for this across the board have been so weirdly neutral.
What do you mean afraid to share what they think? The cool thing has been to crap on this device 😂
They’re neutral because it does exactly what it says. Bob had a bad experience because his home network is bad for remote play (mesh networks… even his Xbox remote footage was crunchy). I use my ISPs router and works great.
He also contradicts himself a lot. If you want a good review look at LTT. I think Bob was looking for reasons to trash it hence all the misinformation.
Yes I was wondering why his experience looks so bad. It has to be his network. I have never had it look like that. It's happens on my phone tho 😅
A lot of people don’t want to piss off Sony, so the worst they are willing to be about it is vaguely neutral. Bob has more integrity than that, and also isn’t really a Sony-dependent channel, so can be more honest (even though he likely now won’t get more hardware sent by Sony in the near future).
@@Otacon1105 I think it should be the other way around. Reviewers should setup a common household environment, if it works in that situation then it should be praised, if not, it should be disclaimed you need a top of the line network setup in order for it to work as intended. Engineers of the Wii U knew that and provided their own solution for off-screen play.
Mesh network is not a problem if you uplink access points via cable.
I 100% believe they named it this way that people would associate it with the PSP. They know that people would be more positive about it with that association.
This is why I always test things out myself. I was ready to hate this thing after watching but I got it as a gift so i figured id try it out. Turns out most of this was cap, at least for me. I'm not sure if they updated or what since the review but my experience has been really smooth so far. Im aware this could be an unique experience but I doubt I got a special unit. The only annoyance I have is switching accounts is trash but there is a workaround with the app.
I bought mine 3 days ago and my experience has been terrible. Very laggy and disconnection issues. I tried everything around to make it work. I loved the ergonomics, display and overall experience when it came to gaming when it actually briefly did work but sadly thinking about returning it. I was wondering what are your network settings and how are you running it? May be I can give it a last try before returning it
@@jawadqaisrani3244 sorry for the late reply I have my Ps5 hardwired and HDMI disconnected. I had my ps5 set as priority on the Internet prior so I have no idea if that affects it. I have 1gb down but I have the same experience at work with only 32mb down. No particular other settings to note. I have not tried any online shooters as of yet because I play those on PC. So far I've done a playthrough of FFXIV, The base game of Monster Hunter World and about a quarter into iceborne, Finished a Tales of Vesperia file, and played Speedrunners with my friends. The only time I disconnected was during a storm, and the only time I found noticable input lag was during online play on Speedrunners which does that even on the console. Not sure if any of that helps but as of now no real issues popped up yet
I use a backbone (oficial PS5 one). 85€. Bought the PSPlay App from GStore for 7€. Made and updated by 1 guy (better than oficial app by miles). All of that attached to my 6.6" OLED 120hz phone. I have had unlimited data on it for a while. So I can really play just about anywhere. Both my phone and back are extremely portable. My phone I already took everywhere. My BB goes in my other pocket.
Sony sold you guys a 200€ non portable but meant to be portable device that services only 1 purpose and can only be used in places that provide you free WiFi. And it might not even be a good connection. Depends on the places. It came with no case nor charger.
You guys bought that. Let that sink in for a moment.
Massive respect for the integrity on the video, giving the absolute hard truth despite Sony giving you the device for free. IGN could never.
lets not forget most youtubers are giving this monitor a 9/10 for example LTT (Linus Tech Tips) they say this device is good THEY EVEN CALL IT A CONSOLE, IS YOUR TV OR MONITOR A CONSOLE, WHY ARE YOU COMPARING THIS MONITOR TO THE SWITCH AND STEAM DECK
@@NektarSSJ Facts man it was so depressing seeing LTT giving this thing any sort of praise.
Hmm makes you wonder now... If Sony was just sending these out to people, explains why so many positive reviews out there in example igns 8 score review
@@Stunnaz84 IGN is a garbage source only worth watching for laughing for a while now, so while I'm not totally surprised they give it an 8, I'm still disappointed that even they can't just come out and say the thing is absolutely useless
Maybe LTT just got better wifi??? LOL
If it had a direct connection to the console like the WiiU gamepad for a near instant response I would have bought this day 1. Having to go through the router will always introduce an amount of noticeable input lag that makes certain game genres unplayable.
It gets even worse with certain networks. Remote play on my MacBook is unusable upstairs in my house because my ps5 is hard wired to the downstairs mesh router
Vita had direct connection to ps4. And I could use that only sitting in same room. Even one wall between introduced problems with image and input. I tried to use ps portal recently and haven't seen any such problems. However I haven't tried dynamic games yet
It can be good tho, you can freaking play VR games over wifi. That it doesnt work good is totally Sonys fault for making garbage software
@@uncraftbar you can play VR games over wifi from another room? Sounds great
@@mad8vad you can play in a different house if you want, that Sony can't figure this shit out is crazy to me
The screen is mounted so low in the device, it cannot be comfortable to hold for long periods of time.
Also props to Bob for spitting the truth and not caring whether it was a sponsor or not. Can’t get content like this anywhere else
Exactly some idiots called me dumb when I said I use backbone on my phone and play gamepass
I think this is very much a “your mileage may vary” type of product. I have been playing remote play on my steam deck through chiaki and to a lesser extent on my phone in the past and played gran turismo 7 for multiple hours, over 1.5 hours away from home with both the deck and ps5 at home only connected to wifi and had a great experience with 0 lag or dropped frames. I think ps remote play is fantastic, so it’s weird when I see CZcamsrs like Bob say how trash remote play is. I am in Canada on Bell network for reference. I don’t have a portal but seeing how good remote play is on my steam deck makes me figure that the portal would be great as well.
Did you even watch the video? He wasn’t “trashing remote play”, he’s a big fan of it. He just doesn’t like the portal.
Also, saying you has “0 lag” is hyperbolic and disingenuous
@@CVSooner777 how is it hyperbolic when that’s the truth? Lag is different from latency by the way. Also yeah he said remote play sucks multiple times in the video lol. Why are you mad?
@@CVSooner777he shitted on remote play constantly 🤣 did YOU watch the video?
It's going to be HEAVILY dependent on your network setup. If you have lots of WiFi interference (Bob likely does, living in New York with all the devices he owns) and a less-than-ideal network setup (mesh WiFi isn't great for stuff like this), then you're gonna have a bad time. I've used remote play on my Chromecast and it works just fine.
@@CVSooner777 The fact that you were so quick to instantly dismiss someone's experiences makes you as ignorant as you are arrogant. My PlayStation Portal also has no lag, stutter, or image quality issues.
Even though I have no interest in a device like this from Sony, I really thought they would improve the remote play functionality. Pretty disappointing that they didn't.
From the PSP in 2005 to the Portal in 2023, no improvements have EVER been made
Mine work great on my internet
He's the first person who I saw that gave a review and said it wasn't working properly. Everyone else that I watch has had great things to say about it
They did improve it..
You just like this review because of confirmation bias.
I don’t have slow internet and my remote play on my iPhone 14 it just stutters and disconnects to even bother using the app so I wouldn’t believe it’s any better.
The hilarious part of them choosing to make the Portal and PS5 rely on your home's internet connection is that Nintendo already made bullet-proof in home streaming with the Wii U and the Wii U GamePad without needing a router because the Wii U transmits its own 5GHz Wi-Fi signal directly to the GamePad without using any external internet connectivity. Furthermore, the Wii U in its day could run Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Video on the GamePad while all those services are disabled when streaming from a PlayStation console to any Remote Play device, including the Portal.
I feel like Sony made the Portal out of spite to discredit dedicated handhelds like the Switch, Steam Deck, ROG Ally, Lenovo Legion, and other dedicated handhelds instead of meaningfully participating in the market. If/when the portal fails, Sony will use the same excuse they previously made with the Vita that "handheld gaming isn't popular"; but the catch this time is that, unlike the Vita, the Portal is a bad product. People *do* want portable gaming, they just don't want *bad* portable machines
I am the exact demographic for this device. I never really get access to the tv in my house. So the PS5 is in my office. When I get to play from the tv I remote play from a ps4.
Now I am having a VERY different experience with the PlayStation Portal. Not all good, so calm down.
It does not have any of the issues in terms of quality of connection,
dropped frame or sound… however it does just bug out every so often. It feeezes, have to turn the screen off and on again to be told the connection dropped, and it won’t reconnect at all until I finally to a system restart.
But even with that it is better for me that my phone.
1- my phone is usually low on battery by the time I am able to play
2- I get interrupted with calls or texts all the time
3- mixing podcast/video listening while playing is a pain if on same device.
So overall, $200 is a lot, and few people should buy this but for me it helps justify the $500 investment collecting dust otherwise, not counting the investment in the actual games. Maybe I can hope my backlog issue will at least not continue to get worse.
"Play Has Limits" _ Sony
Try and turn off the Mesh option of your wifi with just the PlayStation portal. If mesh is turned on for a device it tries to smart switch constantly which makes it worse.
Most mesh networks have the option to turn that part of for a single device.
Sony dropped the ball with this one. They should have just released a portable handheld that can be its on stand alone. So people can buy a PS5 or the handheld and still be part of the PlayStation bubble.
Imagine being able to create a PSN account, and buy games, and play them on the device and if you wanted to pick up on the PS5 you can ( if you had one) or just simply play on the handheld only. (no HDMI port, so the PS5 has its use)
Dude! What a great review. I still can’t fathom how much you were able to roast a device given to you by Sony for free. Now that is flexing. 💪
Also, this is the ONLY review that roasts the PlayStation Portal this good, to this extent-every other one I’ve watched so far was extremely generic, touching none of the things you did. Devil’s in the details I guess? 👀
I was actually on the edge of getting one, but none of the other reviews seemed genuine enough to convince me. I don’t know what it was that they were lacking, but something always seemed off, until I’ve seen this one. 😮
I always had that feeling, telling myself it can’t be this good-there had to be something bad that those other reviews probably were NOT revealing. And here they are, all of them! 😬
Great job, you won a subscriber-keep it up! 🫡
I have the portal. It works perfectly at home. I’ve tried it at my girlfriend’s house and in a hotel 5 hours away from my PS5, it worked perfectly.
the most annoying part is that, as far as i can tell, you cannot turn off the microphone in the ps5's settings, or it's buried so deep in the settings that you can't find it
I’ve really liked mine, I’ve never tried to use it over 4/5g or anything. But in the house it works fine and that’s what I wanted it for. But yes I have had a couple audio issues and every now and then ill get a massive lag spike but mostly it’s been good.
I think the big issue with official remote play, is the app itself. I tried an app called PSPlay instead, it costs around £5, but I gave it a go and it is a far superior to the official app. Colours pop more, lag and latency is less noticable, and I think the resolution is even a little better. It does drop out on occasion, but no where near as much as the official Playstation app. Might be worth a try, obviously not with the Portal, but with the backbone it might be worth a go.
I used that as well and it's the best for Android device
Yeah I got a 3rd party app for my iPhone and it remote plays way better than Sonys app
I found out a tip to significantly improve the Remote Play experience on the Portal. You need to unplug your HDMI cable from the PS5 and then connect with remote play through the Portal. Performance is a lot better and smoother. Also there is minimal stuttering (tested on Local Home Network).
If you have a Sony TV, turning on Simple IP Control in the Network Settings of the TV will resolve issues just as well without the need to unplug the HDMI cable.
Honestly, the Playstation Portal does exactly what it's advertised to do, and how well it works really is up to the user's network setup. That's why reviews and reception are all over the place with this thing - it all depends on your network and not the device itself. Easy to test though by just using remote play on any other device before buying it though.
@@jamespalmer421 The reason you need to unplug the HDMI cable is to completely eliminate the need for the PS5 to process the video output to the TV. This allows the console to solely focus on remote play and it doesn't need any additional processing for outputting to the TV. This might sound like a small tweak but I have heard many people reporting a massive difference in the overall connection quality when doing remote play. Trust me. It's not a small upgrade but something very significant that many more people need to know about who use remote play streaming a lot. Try this out and let me know how it goes for you!
That is a big oversight from Sony. Hopefully they can fix in an update.
This is true. Tested it with the hdmi plugged and unplugged. It makes a big difference.
I’ve tried this and I still have horrible latency on Remote Play.
I got a portal for Christmas and it works great. Haven’t had any issue. The only thing that sucks is not having Bluetooth or web browser but other than that it’s a really great remote player
No its not working good
Why didn't you just ask for the receipt so you could spend that $200 on something actually worth it?
I don't think we should be looking at this as a portable. It's not a portable... It's just got portable features. Isn't it being promoted as a controller type? That's what I see it as. Might be unfair to simply try to compare it to actual portables.
I think they do it because the price is up there with what was the price for a premium portable not long ago
I've been doing Xbox cloud streaming on my Android phone with the Razer Kishi v2 controller and it has been great. Love not having to have the console on to play and haven't had many issues with latency with it.
I saw the Portal and thought it was a bit silly even before I knew about the lack of bluetooth and other issues it has. To me, it seems like they should have made a Steam Deck type device instead. Give me something that can download and locally play PS4, PS2, PS1, PSP games as well as do remote play and streaming. I'd buy that even for $400.
You know why they don't want to do what xbox are doing? Because people can skip buying the ps5, which they can't afford to do like nintendo, xbox is going with the steam path and in the future will become a live service like what they wanted since Microsoft live, xbox/Microsoft can afford to lose the hardware side but sony can't.
In my case I could really perceive the input lag with xbox cloud and I stopped.using it. I look at my kishi that wants to be used so bad
I can only use the cloud streaming at my house which makes it useless at that point
Who needs new games from Sony's incredible IPs when they can simply burn money making paperweights like these? 🙄 So happy Jim Ryan is leaving.
"that guy was lighting a bowl :(" me who just sat down from lighting a bowl XD
Looking at your footage it looks like that device doesn't work that well for you. I've had the complete opposite experience I do not see any frame skips or stutters when I'm at home, wifi 526Mbps(down)/304Mbps(up). It's a solid crystal clear connection from any point in my house. Sitting on the shitter playing GT7, Warframe, Battlefield, and Remnant 2 like I was sitting at my TV. The only issue I did have while at home was the remote play just lost connection to the PS5 for no reason but I just reconnected and kept playing.
I did get a chance to play it from 300 miles away on my parents wifi 253Mbps(down)/27Mbps(up). From there the Portal would run into a momentary lag spike frames skipping and artifacting for at most 10 sec then it would resolve. I played Warframe for about 30 min and Remnant 2, with psn party chat, for over two hours. It was completely playable the whole time. I will admit no Bluetooth is stupid so I had to use an old pair of earbuds to connect to the 3.5mm jack and the mic used for chat was on the Portal.
This device is a win for me but as you can see mileage may vary for others. This device doesn't rely on internet speed while in home but it does rely on network speed so I would suggest hard wiring the PS5 to an ethernet cable, giving your console a static IP, and forwarding these ports TCP 80, 443, 3478, 3479, 3480 and UDP 3478, 3479.
I have the portal since day one. I have used remote play on my iPhone and SteamDeck I do noticed a difference, the Play station portal is a better experience for me. Been playing FIFA 2023, Fortnite and Spider-Man Miles Morales. I have no interest of using it away from home only at home, because I’m have family and most the time I can’t seat in front of the TV for long periods of time. When I travel I take the SteamDeck or Nintendo Switch. I’m a gaming dad 😅 so the PSP 2023 is not for everyone but for me is perfect 👍🏼
There actually is a setting on the ps5, that allows you to set it so that the controller is muted by default at all times. Until you press the button and unmute it.
I don't think that's what he was talking about.
Pretty sure he meant playstation got it backwards with the light being on when it's muted. It should be the other way round imo and what he is trying to say
@@riyazrahimo ah, fair enough 🙂
It’s also on by default. The default should be muted in my opinion.
If you ever feel useless, just remember....
the Portal (that needs Wi-Fi to work) has an AIRPLANE MODE!
I just don't understand what happened with the conception of this bloody thing. From the assassine visual design of a tablet vaguely sandwiched in-between a PS5 controller cut in half (which took like 5seconds on Photoshop then 10 on fusion 360 to make), that looks so bad, to the concept itself of making a device just to remote play when...you already have the Backbone controller (half the price of the Portal) and a free app to do that. So baffling...
And the worst thing is, they're doing this when portable PC/Consoles hybrids like Steam decks and stuff are becoming more and more a thing, and when portable emulation machines are the hot new toys. In what world didn't they see this thing becoming a laughing stock of the industry?
And more than 200€ for that?! Wtf?
PS: AND IT DOESN'T HAVE BLUETOOTH WHAT
i mean, i could see the appeal if they just wanted to make their version of the wiiu tablet. That was honestly a fun way to play that console while sharing the livingroom and tv with my roommates, but this implememtation is way too reliant on home wifi which can be all over the place.
The use case I see mentioned the most is that if you want to play PS5 and the TV is being used for something else by another family member. To me though something like the Logitech G Cloud would be a better option, sure the controls aren't going to be as nice as the Dual-Sense but you can remote play from your PS5, stream if you have PSN Premium, stream from your PC or even from Microsoft's XCloud.
The Portal reminds me a lot of Apple products in that it's likely going to be great if you are inside the eco-system but becomes a lot less useful if you want to step outside of it.
The ecosystem has nothing to do with it. It’s a matter of just having a straight forward home network setup. It seems bobs network setup is expensive but it garbage for remote play (mesh networks). Even his Xbox remote play footage looked really pixelated.
Imho the best option to try this is a backbone since you can get 5G right on your phone, which works really well when you’re out, in my experience.
@@Otacon1105 The eco-system certainly does play a part. After all the only thing you can use the Portal to stream is content from your own PS5. Thus you are locked to Sony's eco-system should you purchase it.
You can literally use your preexisting phone for remote play, this device is genuinely useless.
@@Giliver it’s not useless because for people who use remote play regularly, the experience in your phone is okay at best. 8 inch screen with super ergonomic grips with all the duealsense features is waaaay better than just using your phone.
But if you never used remote play before, yeah, I’d start with the phone and with a portal.
@@Gilivermy phone doesn't have a controller connected to it and isn't 8 inches??
Sony, you should've come to me with this idea. I could've told you how stupid it is and I wouldn't even have charged you for it.
Love how it felt in hand. Nothing was even close to being as comparable. The screen was solid, but the choppy..... Long time Playstation owner returned mine yesterday....
You returned it early; they put out two stability patches since then.
Mine runs butter smooth and pulse earbuds are boss.
@@videogame-techreviews I agree, I returned it early. I was just so enthralled with other options I think. I went through the Deck OLED. The ROG Ally. I retuned them all. I currently have the Legion GO LOL If It comes back to shelves after Christmas. I will probably get it again.
@@frankpatterson9682 very cool, legion go looks fresh.
I bought 2 Lenovo computers in Thailand around 2014-15 and love them both.
How is the legion working out for you?
The two bgm tracks that play during the intro segment are _Save & Load_ and _Shou Akasaki_ from Racing Lagoon btw
It's a PS1 Japan-only racing rpg by Squaresoft
My saviour! I've literally been searching for this comment for like the last 10 mins! When I heard that music, it immediately took me back to when I lived in Japan back in 2009, so it would make sense that it's Racing Lagoon as which you stated, is a Japanese only title. I knew that I heard that music somewhere. I was gonna go insane if I didn't find out what it was 😂 Thanks so much!
For its use case it does what it’s supposed to.
I sent mine back because my $1200 WiFi 6 mesh network for some reason couldn’t get a good connection to it.
For $149 more you can get. Steam deck….
which can play remote play just as well (horrible, but that isnt its fault) oh yeah and its a freaking pc that is actually portable 😂 sony is my favorite but there decisions recently have been so stupid
@@Bruh_Moment..and as well as streaming, Steam Deck can play pc ports of many good Playstation games like TLOU, Spiderman, Uncharted, Days Gone, and so on. As Sony released many of these for pc.
The Steam Deck can also play PS1, PS2, and PS3 games via emulation. So it can become more of a Playstation machine that what Sony can offer itself.
If you have that much money why on earth would you get a Portal over a Steamdeck?....
Its just a worse device in nearly every way, I don't understand the logic aside from some weird fanboyism to the brand.
@@Giliver The Steam Deck is 800p(720p), will get black bars, the streaming quality is not as good as the portal, no haptic feedback and adaptive triggers like the Portal while streaming, way smaller display, and if someone with a ps5 gets a Steam Deck they will have to buy the games all over again if they don't want to stream.
@@skycloud4802 exactly
I’m so confused with the hate for the portal why tf would I wanna use my phone to play a game a life line if an emergency happens?
This thing is 1000x worse than you state. Omg what a failure. I was never able to use it for more than 7 mins. And I’m the biggest Sony guy-imo this is their worst product for PlayStation
I've had a near perfect experience playing spiderman 2 on the portal, no crackling and clear quality graphics. My fibre is 60 down and 20 up. I see a lot of users in north America with theses problems but not for me In the UK. Played at another place through different WiFi and still great.
That’s all you get with fiber? I dot. Have fiber and I get 1000 down
It's more than enough for what I use
Seeing all th biased hate comments on this channels, no! You must be lying, portal sucks
@fantasytky28 unbelievable, why would I waste my time to lie . I'm not a fan boy , I have all the consoles. These people who give crap reviews are all using mesh systems, there's obviously a problem using them . Don't call me a liar again.
@@russellrunciman u know sarcastic?
My experience has been mostly positive, though I do notice some tiny stuttering not present on other PS remote play options, hopefully that's something that can be addressed.
For me this will mostly serve me when my partner would like to use the TV in the living room or I'd like to play in bed.
I do think the screen is great and the ergonomics are pretty good.
I don't fault anybody being down on this thing though, the experience should be the best possible remote play experience out there, and it's not.
I haven’t had an issue with the Portal, in fact I have a better experience with remote play than I ever did on my iPhone XS with backbone. I respect the honesty, but it really depends on your home network on how well this performs.
When this was announced I couldn't believe it was as pointless as it sounded. I assumed Sony would surprise release a new update for remote play that actually made the app usuable.
Or that they would do something with the hardware that improved streaming to it better than anything else and at least have bluetooth. There had to be some aspect I was missing to make this viable.
But they really just cut a dualshock in half and slapped a tablet between it and it can only use a service that 3rd party devs have made better apps for on other systems.
Not even that really bc tablets have native functionality, this can't even run android or Linux, have basic bluetooth functionality, and many use Wifi6. Basically every other option is better than this.
A steam deck or any other gaming umpc, a cheap phone and a backbone, hell even just turning up the volume on your tv the highest and playing your ps5 just by audio cues from another room.
Who is this for? Streaming geeks will know better than to waste their money on this and the tech illiterate will return it once they realize it's just internet based.
I have a portal, a backbone and a steam deck. Also a multitude of other ways to stream PS5. Its been a little hit and miss on all of those devices - that's the nature of streaming. Certain games seem to lend themselves better to streaming. The headphone accessory stuff is weird on the portal. In Canada those headphones are $300CDN. That being said - I do like the screen and ergonomics on the portal and I've had some fun gaming sessions on it when away from my PS5 in the basement. My PS5 is wired and I run a 4 node mesh wifi system. One of my main complaints with the system is that I think the lowest volume setting when using the speakers is too loud.
Same! The lowest volume setting is way too loud 😂
@@FuckinDarknessRising Right!!!!! Maybe this was the issue that made Wulff so cranky in this review! He just didn't know it.
@MattMartin4 Hahaha probably 🤣🤣
Oh totally the lowest volume is LOUD :D
Dude!! Yes! That sound level is so ridiculous haha
Airplane mode on a device that can't do a single thing without wifi . . . Brilliant
It's crazy how you are describing literally the same experience I've had with the Vita's remote play with my PS4 for years 😂 but at least the vita is a standalone console on top of that, so when it doesn't feel like working i can still actually use it, and use it outside my home. Not to mention it uses Bluetooth audio fine lmfao. And it's actually portable, and has an OLED screen, and is cheaper, etc etc 🤣
It’s crazy how you just take this guys word for it instead of going to the ps portal subreddit and learning the truth.
I’m only curious if you have a wired connection for your PS5. Something I haven’t noticed in other reviews too, but my experience was considerably worse with an all WiFi connection. Once I plugged an Ethernet cord into my PS5 (which I know is not something we all can/will do) I was able to play with minimal hiccups. Play things like hallow knight, Persona, Final Fantasy X, etc..
But even if he was all WiFi and not PS5 connected to Ethernet... it's still absolutely deserved. I'm a network engineer and trust me that 99% of people have the shittiest network at home and while Sony can't redefine the laws of physics, it absolutely is THEIR FUCKING JOB to manage people's expectations, do some education (have a pamphlet with the device!) telling their customers how to have the least worse experience.
AND GOD DAMNIT HAVE A FRICKIN WIFI6E CHIP IN THERE,
Even the gosh darn WII U mablet had a proprietary network that was reliable and just WORKED. The Wii U. 10 years ago, by Nintendo the most incompetent company ever about online and network in general!!!
This is absolutely unbelievable how Sony who put out bangers like the Vita can be allowed to put out this...
This ewaste PoS device, because 99% will not do any work for it and it will make them horrendous publicity and it is DESERVED and it should be delivered right to the door of that absolute CLOWN that is Jim Ryan.
I just had a tech over to install Gigabyte Fibre and he said the same thing. It’s best to have the PS5 hard wired and place Wi-Fi boosters in various locations.