I spent $200 on the PlayStation Portal and i'm not sure why...
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Seems like some dookie
It’s a rip off rather buy a couple of switch games.
I think it is a little bit of something I’m not going to want 😂
I got 2 one for each ps5 we are loving them
How tf did you not know you can't play at Starbucks 😆 not very smart I see
The fact that Sony did not include a case or even had one ready to sell day one tells me that they had zero intentions on this thing ever being taken out of people's houses.
It's such a specific design and shape that it needs its own molded case.
Lots of handheld devices come with no cases or if they do they are like £700 legion go’s. Even the ally you have to buy the more expensive one to get a case. This is £200.
@JA-uz7se you're correct, lots of them don't. But those that don't have cases available day one to purchase separately at the very least.
I was surprised by ASUS's decision not to include it for the ROG Ally, especially since Valve includes a case with every single tier of Steam Deck.
@@coltsrnumerouno yeah I agree with the ally it’s very weird as it’s so expensive. Lost opportunity there.
Personally I don’t think Sony will release a case and they will wait for 3rd party companies to make them.
Venom in Uk are making a licensed case available next week I think as a bundle and you can easily grab something off amazing. I got a hard shell and screen protector already just waiting for the case.
Them free days are long gone when they tossed loads of free accessories. I’m not surprised it doesn’t come with anything, nothing ever does apart from the edge case.
Kinda shame as I wanted an official case for my psvr2.
It's a controller with a screen homie .idk what people expect when they basically told us that it wasn't a dedicated handheld 😂
@kur0o0 right, which is why I said I don't think they ever intended on anyone actually using this outside of their house.
A lot of people are taking it with them is the thing though. A fitted case as an option would have been nice to have. Especially with such a large exposed screen.
The Vita was the absolute best design that has ever been made for a fully capable hanheld. Everything about it screams "This feels right".
It’s not a vita and not even close
The back touchpad sucked and should’ve been deleted from the vita and just had r2 and l2 buttons
Hard disagree
Vita was ahead of its time but that design was terribly uncomfortable
Everyone loves the Vita now 😂
Since this was announced I had a huge feeling it was essentially a wiiu gamepad (without the ability to add extra functionality to games) with maybe a little bit of stadia. We all know how amazing those products were
The Wii U pad is worlds better.
@@beegchunguz7425how
You guys obviously dont have a portal.
@@beegchunguz7425 at least it worked unlike this
Funniest part was “if you don’t mind performance and visual fidelity” you know… the 2 MAIN selling points of the ps5/xbox this gen
It’s a great device for people with very specific needs. I’m a 36yo dad with 2 babies at home. I have seen my backlog extend like crazy lately and I have finally been able to play ff16 with little but no hickups when everyone is asleep, in the bathroom (i.e. the casual gaming room) or here and then when the opportunity is there, without needing a sofa. I love my PS Portal, but I admit it could raise a few frustrations to some.
This is exactly my use case except I have 4 kids running around.
Feels like spending 200 dollars for something that phones already can do is a waste. Considering this thing comes with WiFi 5. If you have an Iphone, it will outperform this thing.
@@namenight7158mate it really can't. I have multiple devices and the portal is light years ahead and I have no lag at all
This kind if honesty and criticism are the exact reason I love your reviews man. Kind of insane how IGN gave this an 8 and the steamdeck (which can also use remote play) a 7
One is an accesorie for the PS5 and the other a pc handheld. So these are two different categories.
They give a 9 on Steam Deck OLED though.
@@alexh7513too bad the product intended to do a hyper specific thing got outdone by a completely unrelated handheld system at the same price as an accessory and proprietary wireless earbuds.
Steam deck (either version) and Chiaki. 10 out of 10.
If you rate a Steamdeck based on its ability to remote play and controls, yeah, it is worse than a Portal. Now, if you rate based on things the portal wasn’t built for? Yeah, of course it wins. Try rating the Steamdeck as an entree for a mean, yeah, it’s a solid 0.
Fans: we want a portable system.
Sony: it ain't portable but it looks like one... Here enjoy.
You want a portable system, they’re more than enough out there for the “fans”. A new Vita can come out tomorrow and people will complain that it doesn’t have any games as Switch or Steam (which is guaranteed to happen).
@@MithosDagon Then create at least a handheld what can play PS4 and PS5 games natively and no one expects you to play PS5 games at 4K 60fps, I think everyone would be fine with 720p 30fps if it was natively and you can play it offline and outdoor without needing God-like internet connection.
@@Official_RetroMania A handheld that can play PS4 and PS5 games natively will cost more than a steam deck. They would need to 1:1 replicate the console into a handheld since the games would not have been optimized for the handheld. So definitely not viable in the current market. It sounds good but not realistic.
@@MithosDagon Not really because the PS5 plays games at locked 60fps at 1440p in "most games" upscaled to 4K. For a handheld 720p 30fps it's more than enough and it doesn't need ray tracing.
The Steam Deck can play PS4 games no problems at locked 40-50fps so why wouldn't it run PS5 games? Even some PS5 games run perfectly fine on the Deck, I have a Steam Deck and I finished Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart the new one at a locked 40fps on my Steam Deck.
So why wouldn't it run PS4 and PS5 games natively?
@@Official_RetroManiaif sony releases a vita that can play PS5 games the PS5 isn't next Gen anymore and then they just compete with themselves for sales. As a fan it's easy to want these things and not consider the logistics of it. People forget to realize the reason the vita failed is because of the time it took developers to make games for it, making a new ecosystem is not feasible when the steam deck exists.
I absolutely love how you added the "annoying" events to the video like the audio skips, so we know exactly what you meant by that. Never thought I'd call a review immersive, but here you go haha. Really immersive review!
Thanks for having us on again Wood - we're so excited for the launch of our Lens Shade collaboration! 😎
Seeing your test at Starbucks confirmed what I had been saying. This device vs. Spotty internet in public places is it's down fall. I don't think its designers really thought about how bad connectivity over wifi is in this country.
The games I play need a connection that's bullet proof, sadly my home WiFi although the best you can buy, just doesn't give me confidence that my connection is going to be stable for 20 minutes. All my gaming devices use LAN for this reason
@@Andrew-vj5hf same, the only device that I game on with wifi is my Switch, but it's right beside my router
Have to use your 5g hotspot not public wifi
@fabolousjada5070 Some people don't have the luxury of a 5g hotspot. It's a monthly bill that doesn't fit the budget. Would be great, but it's not practical.
@@NathanCundiffThen don't buy one in the first place? It's an optional accessory for the niche of those who already use remote play on their phones and tablets but premium.
Mobile hotspot is free, I'd just suggest you have an unlimited data plan or to monitor your data if not.
I advise anyone who wants to buy one to test remote play first to see if their Internet can even handle it and to throw out an extra 100 over Backbone because it's an uncomfortable pos and not worth more than 25 bucks for what it is.
As for me, it's perfect and I'm enjoying the heck out of it, especially when the wife or kids are using the TV.
I love that in a board meeting someone actually said, and convinced Sony execs that, "Hey, remember the Wii U? That was amazing. You could sit on the toilet AND game! Let's do that!" Without ever researching the Wii U.
I actually was like “This is just a worse Wii U” when i saw it first and i am still thinking that
The funny thing is, it's even worse than Wii U.
I don't get why it's being compared to the Wii U. Don't you play on both screens simultaneously with the Wii U? Wouldn't this just be a worse version of a Switch instead (since it needs to BT to the ps5)?
The WII U tablet didn't need wifi to run either
@@neonarcticfox1856 tbh I totally love the Portal. You need to set you PS5 to 1080p and then everything works absolutely great. The idea of the Portal is something which is perfect for some people but ofc not for everyone. Since I own the portal ive been playing much more.
I do like the idea of the playstation portal, but I did have a bad feeling that it would be executed poorly. I hope that it will be better eventually, but right now it just looks really rough. It definitely feels like it needed more time to be worked on and tested before it got sent out. It's always nice to see you review products and games.. you always have really good points about everything and you're honest about things, but also are looking at the pros and cons to anything which I think is really helpful. I would also just like to see you play more games or have more reviews about what you're playing because that's always fun. I got a little sidetracked, but yeah.. I'm definitely waiting for either a finished version of this or maybe they'll improve on the playstation portal.
Technically speaking, this is a $700 USD streaming only device that is limited to specific WiFi networks.
$200 for the Portal, $500 for the required PlayStaion console.
I can buy a handheld that can do both streaming and local play for cheaper overall.
instead of split screen when your playing co-op would be nice to just have an option for the other player to use the portal as their own screen yk
This encompasses everything I heard about it thus far. Thanks for taking it on the chin for us. I will get it when it is on clearance for $50. I loved the Vita and the PS4. Although not perfect it seemed to function better.
Yeah 200 is way too expensive imo for a remote play only device reliant on good internet just to play games
Thank you for this very honest review. I really wanted to buy one of these Portals, but if YOU are having connection and lag problems and you have the best internet available in USA... then I have absolutely no chance at getting one to work on my very slow internet here in Australia.
I was hoping the Portal would have some sort of bluetooth connection to the PS5 console (like a normal controller would have), so that you could connect at home and use it offline without having to stream over wifi. I really thought it would function over bluetooth and just operate as a controller with a built in screen at home, and then only need to connect via wifi if you took it out of the house. But it doesn't, which sucks and makes it inaccessible to anyone stuck with bad internet in their local area.
I'm so glad I learned that even people with the best internet are having problems with it before I bought one. It would have been a huge waste of money. I know my internet isn't strong enough to handle streaming because I've tested the remote play app on my phone, and the best I can get is the Playstation menu, as soon as I try to play a game it starts having connection problems and cuts off.
Since getting a Portal is no longer an option, I've asked a friend in the USA to help me order a Steam Deck instead (which sadly isn't available in Australia). The new Steam Deck OLED will be a much better purchase for me, because even if it takes a few days to download a game over my slow internet, at least once its downloaded I can play it offline, like I do with my Switch OLED.
I miss the times when Vita was a thing and you could literally play games on the go. Portal looks fun if you want to play at home or during a long loo session :D
the vita is more a thing now then its ever been thanks to modding
my guy, you can still use a vita if you have one.
I'm not going to buy one
Cool
Do you need a PS5 for it to work if so yeah I'm not getting one
@@catblast2 I wish it would work with the PS4
@@EPIC_BOWSER_JR they're always at Walmart but I don't want to spend $500 on it and considering every game in 70 dollars that's too much for me
@@Drayton226 ok how about get a use PC handle
I've been going through Diablo IV on the portal and I've been enjoying the experience with minimal issues and lag
I agree. I think he's doing something fundamentally wrong.
Agreed I have average internet and I have no issues anywhere in my house. I can even get a solid connection when I'm outside
It's my first time on your channel... and must say I LOL with your confusion regarding the power button. Priceless. 😂
What I've seen on other reviews for Wi-Fi streaming is to make sure it only connects to the 5ghz Wi-Fi band. 2.4ghz has more range but slower and not great for streaming.
The way you edited this and visualized the audio and picture was awesome! Good Job Wood!
tbc.
9:52 is the best moment that makes this video more than worth it❣️
I think you need to fix your router, Wood. Theres lots of reviews out by now that shows it works very consistently if you have a decent router and settings are correct. If you're using the router you got from your ISP, then it's likely going to be a bad experience. A lot of people seem to think internet speed is important to use remote play, but it's entirely on the local WiFi connection when you're using it in your house. For me, it even works well on 4g hotspot in most cases. I feel like local WiFi/router quality should be mentionen in a review of a device that is solely based on that.
A few concerns about how this was presented:
1. You mentioned that your router is in your basement so if you have a normal 2 story house, it makes sense why you would have an iffy connection to your PS5/router from your bedroom (which could be on the top floor). If you had access points setup throughout the home, you’d probably see a difference/improved connection.
2. You used your hotspot from your phone, but there was no mention about the service your phone was getting at the time. If your phone only had 1 or 2 bars while in Starbucks, then that would explain why the connection is poor. Sony could improve this by including a makeshift web browser that could allow you to properly join WiFi from a hotel or Starbucks.
However, with all of this, I’m sure most people wouldn’t have access points/a mesh setup in their home to improve WiFi quality. Also, I haven’t tested with FFXVI yet but everyone’s experience definitely varies with this device. Sony should probably do a better job at emphasizing these things so people don’t get the wrong impression.
Man I don’t have any of these issues on my unit. It works great everywhere in my house (I have a TP Link XE75 mesh WiFi system and AT&T gigabit fiber). It’s also worked well for me tethered to my phone’s 5G and at family member’s houses.
This is a real “your mileage may vary” device it seems.
He probably tried to stream with a dozen devices connected to his super duper amazing Fiber internet or had some other interference. He doesn't seem like the smartest person. I've streamed from my PS4 to my Vita and my PS4 and PS5 to my Steam Deck with no problems and if I can do that, I'm sure a dedicated handheld works just fine.
Thank you same here. This peeps have 300 mb internet with 30 devices connected but want smooth gameplay.
"works fine for me, by the way, I spent $500 on a router"
cool buddy, thanks for the info! never would've guessed that!
your comment is pointless. of course its going to work fine on a $500 router?? most people don't have $500 to waste on a router though
@@ryanw217 okay first of all, calm down. Second of all, the deco mesh is $199.99. I work from home and have a big family in our house. Our house has bedrooms upstairs and downstairs. I work upstairs and a family member who lives with us works downstairs. We needed a solution because our AT&T router/modem combo was just not reaching far enough. Our experience was awful. The Deco solved it for us and now we get amazing speeds everywhere.
I didn’t buy the router specifically for this device. Chill, bro.
And honestly, yeah, if you’re gonna buy a device that relies on a WiFi connection to literally function, you should probably make sure you have freakin good WiFi. I hardly think that’s a controversial statement.
Works great for me too. I’ve connected my modem to a Eero mesh router and connect the PS5 directly using Ethernet cable. I’ve taken the device to work with me and tested and the gameplay is still incredibly smooth.
This is the reason why I just invested in a Switch Lite, and installed Android on it. Bought the PSPlay application and it can basically do what PlayStation Portal was set out to do (minus haptics+screen size).
I can even play my Switch Games on it.
You can’t mod a switch lite like that. Even if you could, the android experience in switch is terrible. You’re better off getting an Odin or similar (I.e. use you’re actual android phone). The fact that you have to lie to dunk on a product is a little silly.
@@Otacon1105idk for sure about a switch lite but you can install android on a switch oled for sure. No idea how it performs as I havent tried it
@@t4nk3d402 I’ve done it on the base switch. It’s not a good experience, barely works and slow af. Afaik you can’t jailbreak a more recent switch, including OLED and Lite, without every expensive hardware mods. It would cost more or at least the same for the mod alone than a PS portal. And you will have a worse experience than if you got a phone+backbone or a dedicated handheld.
@@Otacon1105 you actually can, I installed Android 11 last month. A 2nd hand switch lite from where I live is almost $100-$130 here + mod services which comes up to about $160 tops. The Odin Lite (cheapest model) would set you back $200.
So if I get the Odin, I get to play Android + emulation + PS5/PC/Geforce Now streaming.
If I get a 2nd hand switch lite, I get to play Switch games (full speed), emulation (not as great as Odin Lite), stream my PS5/PC/Geforce Now onto my Switch with Android 11 at a lower price.
OR
A Playstation Portal that can only Stream PS5 games
Which do you think has a better value?
Also, never really liked the idea of using a phone as a "gaming device."
Please do a bit of research about Switch modding before commenting here and telling me that I have to "lie" to dunk on the PSPortal.
The product is underwhelming my guy, just accept the fact. Even Wood had a difficult time getting everything to run smoothly.
Lastly bit of advise. you can be a Sony fanboy and criticize a product if it's underwhelming/underperforming. You don't have to be a yes-man all the time my guy.
@@t4nk3d402 on the switch lite, everything performs just fine. Most likely performs the same on any Switch, tbh.
I don't play Android games on it, I use it to stream GeForce Now and my PS5.
Similar experience compared to an RP3+ in terms of game streaming. Just wish that the screen and sound would be a bit better but then again, it's a Switch Lite.
Thank you so much for the review I was so close to buying one today but figured I’d see if you had a review and you did!!! After seeing this video I’ve decided to pass until they work some of the kinks out and maybe release an OLED version. Thanks again man I love your content
Good to see an honest review.. I got this and watching other CZcamsrs i was getting frustrated thinking was I the only one that was having issues. It’s not
Made to work outside your home
I see this being good for parents who have to share a tv and want to get some play sessions in in their home. I wouldn’t take this out of my house. Gonna wait for these to discount before I buy
I am one of these parents. we have just on TV, and my only free time is in the evening. Most of the time the TV isn't free to use my PS5. It would be awsome if my husband could watch TV, and I could play on my Playstation. I love my Switch for that, but I have some Playstation games I want to play more. If this gets into sale I will buy one I think.
I have one and my experience with it has been very different, it has been like your god of war experience but with anything I’ve thrown to it… weird, so yes I find it fantastic.
Same here! I'm really happy with my purchase. That being said, I use the Portal mainly inside my house.
Me too! I haven't had any lag issues. It's been working great so far.
TBF id be curious to see how well you could do other in home streaming to weed out any bad wifi issues. for example doing steam remote play on a steam deck to your gaming pc. just curious.
Great editing! Really hit home the examples!
Really appreciate your thorough testing and review, Wood! I got the feeling from many other reviews that they were painting this in the best possible light. From the beginning, I suspected this device would be rife with inconsistencies. Streaming games can be wonderful at times but also incredibly frustrating. Maybe Sony’s hoping WiFi 7 will resolve some of the networking issues over the next few years.
I don’t think everyone else went easy on it. I think he just put his router in his basement and is somehow surprised when he can’t get a stable signal from outside it.
I don’t plan to buy this, I use the backbone for streaming (same app basically) and have almost no problems.
Exactly. Check out LTT review on it for an accurate an unbiased review from someone who actually knows how latency works. @@Otacon1105
Has not lagged for me yet been like actually emotionally happy with it, always used remote play cause i had to but it wasnt the best with a phone and controller there are a lot of issues with long play when playing like that, and the PS Portal fixed all of it! Audio is also good if youre at home but if youre out somewhere then of course youre gonna enjoy headphones more
I wonder if there are just faulty hardware units all over the place and thats why it doesn't work that well for others? Or maybe a PS5 in a basement messes with the signal it sends out to the device? I really dont know since your Internet speeds are like 80x better than what you need for a really enjoyable connection
One feature I wish this had is that instead of playing a game in splitscreen (like borderlands) it would allow for one player's image to be shown on tv and the other player's image on the portal. That way the portal is turned into a second controller and a second screen, doing away with the obnoxious horizontal split screen (since putting it vertical has some serious framerate issues). You think Sony coukd implement this as an update? But I guess a feature like that would have been needed to be implemented in the games already as well.
I’m quite happy with mine. I don’t think it would work well in public spaces. I use it within the confines of my home and it works fine when I can’t access the tv. I have noticed that I need to be well away from baby monitors and take the tv box offline to keep the bandwidth open. A wired ps5 connection also helps. This device isn’t for everyone. Each to their own
If your ps5 was running on WiFi as well that would be the answer to all your lag issues. I’ve played everywhere with my portal so far and I’ve had no issues and I have fiber at home as well. I have my ps5 connected via Ethernet cable and I see little no issues with lag when I’m connected to it no matter where I’ve been.
You saw he kept playing the one game that gave him trouble. There are a lot of ppl afraid this device could become popular. Switch fans especially feel threatened, most others are positive about the PS Portal... 🤷
he said hes using a cable even if he wasnt most pepole dont
Exactly. Just wait until Sony updates it to play PS Plus cloud streaming. @@HonestToCritic
Switch fans do not feel threatened by a streaming device anymore than Tesla owners feel threatened by the dairy industry.
The Portal has an understandable scepticism around it, given Sony's past blunders with addons, companion devices and handhelds. The PSP is the only one they didn't blunder on, unlike the Vita, PlayStation Move, Xperia Play, iPhone controller, and will no doubt screw the pooch on this one too.
They've had more blunders than SEGA, Atari and Nintendo combined at this point, and this is counting the 32X, Virtual Boy, Atari Jaguar, and Wii U together.
If you intend to buy any handheld device that isn't a switch, it has to be a Steam Deck.
You can not only play a good portion of your Steam games natively, you can also stream your steam games from your PC, as well as stream other games from other stores (with some tinkering) AND you can stream PlayStation and Xbox Game Pass games too, so yes. You can literally do what a PS portal tries to do, plus a tonne stuff.
And if you get the OLED version, you get better everything except haptic feedback.
What about Lenovo
Steam deck not an option for people who like physical copies. I like to own my games imstaed of leasing them
@@jhix1816 ever thought you could be both? There are, after all, games that are never going to be physical, like a lot of indie games and, very slowly, some AAA games.
@@Kranitoko
It’s because physical copies are used as collectors. People love to play on any device not only one account for specific device
That or an Ally or Legion Go. Both of those devices are better. Even the Logitech G Cloud is better
I think the screenlag and bitcrush you're getting is because of your display settings on your PS5. Mine looked very grainy until i set the ps5 to 60hz and 1080p. Now it's sharp and not lagging either. The connectivity issues with hotspot also went away.
I was so on the fence about getting one as I would love to play PS5 games anywhere but was wondering if I would have issues as again I have had issues with the backbone.
I thought the portal would be more reliable but seeing your video on this I am definitely not sold on it and think I will pass and just take my switch with me.
Make sure you have strong wifi signal, and hopefully 5 or 6 GHz. Otherwise the review is of the network and not the device. 1000mbps down means absolutely nothing when doing things like streaming on your local network.
He has a terrible wifi setting. Mine works like a charm i never ever had that problems. Wtf.
Have you tried readjusting the refresh rate on the ps5 to 60hz? That will reduce stutter noise increase your bandwidth connection
Good testing and review. but just one thing, if you know FF have streaming problem.. whey you didn't try Sm2 or Gow at cafe?
I really like mine, works great to I get basically no lag (although I've never been sensitive to lag). I don't have a second tv so it's just easy to grab this and stay on the couch while the wife or kids have the tv. But I do hope they make the Vita 2 next.
Could have bought a second tv or gaming monitor instead of this though🤷🏻♂️
I hope Sony sees this and gets their act together. I’m not a Sony fan, but if they started to have more Nintendo-like games I’d be interested in a handheld device that worked.
Couldn’t agree more, I love being able to play games on the go. As an avid switch player I was so excited PS was getting on the trend but this is just sad and needs LOTS of work
@@Strawberrystormi to be honest no handheld delivers that much what the PS Portal does. Playing PS5 games on a handheld is just crazy.
@@arianoooamari6949streaming* the portal does little to no processing, the ps5 does the heavy lifting
@@arianoooamari6949 you're not playing ps5 games on a handheld, you need to have a ps5 in range, and it only displays the screen onto the portal
See what I spent this entire weekend trying to find one of these things they're solded out Everywhere
So basically the current leading devices when it comes to gaming (as in offers the most capabilities) are the Nintendo Switch and Steamdeck. I haven't seen the Steamdeck being marketed as much as other gaming consoles, but considering that Steam offers both PC and handheld platform gameplay, there is a way for players who play games running hardcore graphics such as FF16 on handheld. The only issue with Steamdeck right now is that apart from their own website, no local retailer sells it.
I used to game on both the PS2 and PSP. So when I first heard news of the Portal coming out I hoped it would have the same capabilities as the Steamdeck. I didn't mind having to start a Playstation account and buy games for that account, as long as I was able to do so on the handheld device itself.
It makes me wonder if Sony and Nintendo have an unspoken agreement to not overstep on their "specialized" gaming fields - with Sony running high-graphic games for console, Nintendo doing handheld at the cost of quality. Which if so, why? They could expand to more target audiences, since there isn't much options right now for players who want both [high-graphic games] running on a [handheld device] in which is [available to buy at their nearby retailer]. Those 3 conditions all together.
Ever since I got the Switch, since I already have a gaming device that runs on both console and handheld, so I don't need another console device - especially one like the PS5 that is bulky compared to the Switch. I cannot easily fit a PS5 next to my desktop monitor. But considering I wanted to play games such as FF16 and FF7 remake that can ONLY run on systems such as the PS5, Sony creating an actual handheld device in which I can play FF games without having an existing PS5 system would be key for me. They could easily pull me in as a new consumer that originally belonged to a different target audience.
Sony has done a handheld gaming device before, so there is no excuse. Meanwhile considering the Steamdeck exists, the tech to actually make a handheld device that runs games with hard graphics is possible. I happened to see a TikTok where the OP was wondering why Nintendo, who makes millions at this point, decides to not venture into that world, in which I agreed. Like do these companies not want... money? More profit and market share? Like they still can have certain games exclusive to their own platforms, but for game companies who want to release their titles to many systems as possible, Nintendo giving them that option would be ideal for them as well. Instead of teams like the Hogwarts Legacy case having to spend painstaking hours having to rework the graphics on an entire game.
But eh, I only studied marketing, not business. What do I know.
I recently bought the XReal air2 and love them, the only issue I have is I can’t figure out how to switch it on 😂 and change the nose pads. I had the same issue with the backbone I used it for remote play but as soon as I saw the grainy gray screen I gave up on it. Hopefully in the not to near future my wired connection should produce better results.
It does exactly what they advertised, it frees up the family tv. For this use it is outstanding
It also doubles as a paper weight! Sweet!!
@@retrobros9684 and a doorstop.
Yep, it's not even that expensive compared to other stuff they've sold. For portable use around the house when the TV is in use or when visiting family or hotels etc it's great
But….your phone can also do that for half the price???
@@docc19 you don't have to use your controller with this though, or drain your phones battery, and it's dedicated so it's optimised for this. Screens also bigger and better than your phone
I think if you need to try and find a use case for it, then you dont need it. Also are the thumb sticks the same as the VR Sense controllers thumbstick?
They’re a tiny bit smaller
Ignore the first comment they’re a bit bigger than VR but not as big as dual sense
I can kinda see the use case for it, like being able to play while lying on the bed. It’s great but it felt weird having to pay for another console to enable just ONLY that.
@@AlexN798that's interesting
why is it blank at 10:17? great vid and love the review
I haven’t seen anyone talk about game sharing with one of these. I have a PS4 as my primary console, and the PS5 as the secondary. I want to make sure that streaming is locked to the primary console only.
The reason I say this is because Remote Play on my iPad is odd in that in order to work DS4 Bluetooth pairs directly to the primary console instead of my iPad, and I had to set up a third account.
Got mine and it's overall great for my situation. I put a Bluetooth transmitter on it but the lag was 2sec so unusable
I heard people saying put bluetooth transmitter on the ps5 itself, only works in house obviously. Wired only option outside
It's probably why Sony didn't bother with the Bluetooth and went for this new Link idea. I can't use Bluetooth headphones on my Steam Deck because the delay is that bad.
Guess we gotta wait another 3 weeks until they release the earbuds... was interested but no ANC? Naw I'll keep my galaxy buds 2 pro.
It's odd because I've had mine since launch and have been using it almost every day, in and outside of the house, and have had zero issues. No lost or weak connection. The only issue I have had came from the PS5 itself. When in rest mode, it refuses to consistently turn on via remote play. Sometimes, I have to reconnect upwards of 10 times before it actually wakes. Never had the issue with the PS4. And I've tried everything to get it to work shy of a factory reset.
It's because a lot of people don't know how to set up a WiFi network for optimal performance. They don't realize that the router needs to be placed at the center of the house for the best coverage, as the signal is broadcasted horizontally in all directions. Or that you can get better performance by separating the 2.4 and 5 GHz access points with separate SSIDs to ensure your resource-heavy devices get the 5 GHz AP. Or that every device shares the same WiFi bandwidth, so static devices should be plugged in via Ethernet where possible. The PS5 especially should be plugged into the router via Ethernet so the Portal doesn't have to compete for WiFi bandwidth.
Why couldn't they do what the Wii U did? Add a more streamlined connection on top of the normal remote play.
I know it's 1080p but if it was localized and 15-20 feet away from the console, that could've also been a second option for a smoother connection. That thing was pretty flawless. We also have the tech to pull it off, not sure why they can't add a WPS protocol and directly connect to your console instead of through your router - when you're close to your console.
The screen specs you said will also be on the new Nintendo switch. 8" 1080p 60 FPS LCD screen.
I'm only buying one to use my friends PlayStation games on it. I have permission before you ask.
but his console will be on and running when you play?
That's going to end well...
@@Swole_Gecko I now thank. I'm going to be sharing it with him anyway
I love my portal, I haven’t had any real issues with connectivity. The only thing I can complain about is the touchpad stuff. Since it’s now on the screen and not a physical button it’s really hard to figure out how to work it for certain games
Hey Wood have you tinkered with port settings and tried since the last update? I have good wifi and my experience has been near flawless.
I’d really like you to revisit this because this device seems so hit or miss based on network configuration but most people I’d say are really enjoying the product and works well.
I used to use the old fat PSP for this and turn on my PS3 at home and stream games to it from anywhere. It worked rather well I thought for its time, limited to what disk was in the drive or games saved on the PS3.
Finally somebody doing it in non-ideal situations (what we would normally be in). Also I love how you edited the video to give an example about what you were talking about.
$200 would be a good deal if it didn’t require a ps5 to play.
Right? That would be a fantastic price for an actual portable system
@@balentay add a large memory card you can add your games to and some kind of game card like the UMD but smaller and they could have genuinely competed with the switch
Dude, if this was a true PS5 version of a handheld, it would cost MORE than $200. The portal is just a screen and dualsense with some internet features. Add to it PS5 miniaturized hardware, it would cost more than a PS5 console. Add a slot for physical media like a memory card, disc, cartridge and it would cost more than $800. Remember that the PS isn't simply a PC. It uses Sony proprietary parts, technology, hardware and software to make.
@@carleffique2687yeah i guess just everyone logic is failing here, they though if portal was mini ps5 then it will be cheaper because its mini, but the truth is the price would higher than actual ps5
@@carleffique2687 when did I ever claim I thought it was going to be a portable ps5?
A portable system isn’t supposed to be just as good as the stationary system.
The whole point is to lower the performance and have it be portable in exchange.
So which do you prefer the portable or the backbone or whatever if you had to pick between the two.
I love any chance someone gets to point out just how far ahead of it’s time the Vita was & even more so the PSP.
I was a bit on the fence when this was announced, but when I figured out I could remote play on my Steam Deck using Chiaki, the Portal was an easy pass.
I get really bad motion sickness when I play 3D games on the tv with the PS5, which often means I have to play lower res versions of the same game on my switch instead. So this is perfect! Even though I'll have to play it with my ps5 close by :DD Very happy they did this! Hope it gets even better in the future.
I recently got this myself, it's not horrible, but surely they'll do an update on the handheld to make it better... here's hoping.
Considering Sony's past support of addons, handhelds and non-mainline consoles, like the PlayStation Move, Vita, the iPhone controller and PSVR2, I wouldn't get those hopes up too high.
It's so weird that you had so much trouble. My sister was able to connect without any issues from my house, 28 miles from her PS5.
WOW I was a huge fan of their old handled and still think it looked amazing even till today. But from what you showed us (thank you for that) I honestly couldn't get one off these. I might consider it if it was $50 but for how it performs and with so much competition and the fact the switch has oled it's just a no go for me which is a huge shame as I would have loved to use this around the house or if I where staying away somewhere
It amazes me how for some users the experience is nothing but great and for some just horrendous. Even with a 5G hot spot. I start to think that maybe it's a hardware issue on certain devices.
You have to connect ur ps5 to an ethernet cable. Ive had no issues once i did that
My ps5 is pure wifi and im using a service provider stock modem with basic eero router… i can play bloodborn flawless.
He said a hot spot...lmfao...
I think it just depends on your home network, the better your own network is, the better your experience, I personally wouldn't dare try playing over 5G or any mobile internet though (but I'm also an Aussie, and our infrastructure is crap, too crap to hotspot to a 5G network).
I'm in Australia. I pre ordered it and it doesn't come out to February 2nd so have time to watch all the reviews.
Yeah... I saw this coming. I remember when PS now was on the vita and this seems similar, definitely not worth the money. Might pick it up when it hits clearance
Same, i'll wait till it's like 50 bucks, I think playstation being ahead this gen has caused to to make some real dumb ideas
- "not worth the money"
- SOLD OUT
Choose one.
@@danielchristmas6967 Just because it's sold out doesn't mean it's a good item as Sony Ponies like yourself will buy anything, also kiddo it isn't out in stores yet so more than likely it's been bought out by scalpers
@@sholva6809 If it sells well, it literally means it's a good item - there is no more objective measure. The rest of it, calling people names and sht, is just you childishly rationalising your egocentrism.
@@Tarets So, just because I don't believe that it's worth the money means???? Seriously, just because something sells well doesn't mean that it's quality or even good. If we used that by a metric then that would mean the Pokémon switch games or Sonic 06 were high quality products. They just aren't, on top of that also consider how many were scooped by scalper bots and other resellers hoping to make a quick buck. There's a lot of factors that play into this beyond how well any product sells.
I personally really like it, my internet is pretty good so it works great most of the time, with a few hiccups every now and again.
I totally get why a lot of people don’t care about it, but I’ve been able to play my PS5 and hang out in the living room with my family more.
Yeah it’s good device some people will accept it for what it is and others will not. I wish Sony makes remote play better or releases its cloud gaming on this so games will be more playable.
i have a ps4 pro set to just 1080p for all games, and be it outside of my house or inside connecting to the ps4 pro its flawless. using both the official app and the psplay app
i think a lot of the issue is it trying to send a 4k signal to the device even though it isnt capable of displaying it, same deal with my ps5
Works perfect in and around the house basicly when the portal is connected to the same netwirk as the ps5 ...however when both are on another network cant connect so without a vpn setup no go on vacation
I’ve been having a blast!! Love it worth every penny ❤ weird because FF16 works great for me
I’ve had zero issues. I’ve even used my mobile hotspot at the park and it was buttery smooth. This thing is amazing!!!
This is the comment I was looking for. I'm surprised no one thaught about wifi hotspot. If this running fine on wifi it should do well on lte+.
Great, but when testing equipment, always factor in that not every situation is going to be that good.
Don't know if you mentioned it, but is your PS5 conected with an ethernet cable?
Because I've used mine for over 60 hours already and never had close to your issues.
Works perfectly at home with FFXVI, and decent enough connected to my phone as a hotspot outside.
I don't have the portal myself and i scrolled through a bunch of comments to see if it was already suggested but from what I heard the portal can default to connect to the 2.4Ghz wifi-band instead of the 5ghz one. In some cases people had to disable the 2.4 setting in the router to force it on the 5ghz. Something worth checking just in case?
For what it’s worth (not much with the loud minority against the Portal), been playing lots of Spider-Man 2 and Remnant 2 and it’s been great.
At home, at a Boba cafe, at friend’s home using their Wi-Fi.
Stellar performance, no stutters, 60 FPS 👍
(edit: the audio DOES suck in loud environments, but would be fine with headphones)
Have the portal and can't say enough how good it runs, home on the road or at work I does work very good for me.
I’m glad some people found an actual use for it.
Idk why I care so much about it cuz I don’t even have a ps5 and I have a steam deck but it just fascinates me they did this and not a actual handheld
i wonder what router do you have. is it the one the ISP probides? you dont need high speeds for this to work. but you do need a good router. people underestimate how important routers are. i dont have the fastest wifi, but i do have a really good mesh system that i got because i build a smart home with switches, bulbs and a bunch of othe stuff, for this reason i needed really good wifi evrywhere in my home so i have a nice wifi mesh system. and my portal works flawlesly in my house, literally everywhere.
It’s ok. I was able to play ESO while my gf was driving to Palmdale from LA. I lost connection a couple times and it froze but overall it worked well with my iPhones’ hotspot. I got MetroPCS. When i hooked it to my nephews home internet it started to lag. Mind you we were in the garage and I don’t think his wifi goes that far. At home i got spectrum , and had to put it on 2g instead of 5g cause of lag. Idk why but it works better that way for me. It’s a love hate relationship with this device. Mostly love haha
I’ll give Sony props for delivering an incredible looking device adding to the PS5 experience but it’s a little disappointing the negatives seem to outweigh the positives especially when most of those negatives didn’t exist when playing games on the Wii U gamepad released over 10 years ago. I’m sure Sony updates to improve the experience because the Portal looks pretty awesome
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Finally someone talking about the ridiculous connectivity issues
I was thinking about getting this… but do you think the Backbone at $70 for Black Friday is better?
If the only way to play it is sat at home in front of your PS5 what’s the point? I have played remotely using backbone and the delay and lag is not great. Was hoping portal would do something different
I really wish it was a standalone handheld 😭
It sounds like a bigger disappointment than when it was announced… those glasses though! Definitely going to look into those!! 😮
@10:38 the audio distortions can hurt ur ears if ur wearing in-ear headphones at a higher vol.
Mine works great at home. Leaving home though, similar to your experience where it can’t connect for long without dropping the connection. I’ll keep trying but not looking promising.
The only thing that the Portal did for me, was make me realize that I could remote play my PS5 to my Steam Deck 😂
Wait how?
When the guy does not find the power button and says that instrucciones are "unclear", this is when to me he loses all credibility!
I wonder if a usbc to ethernet adapter would fix the issue?! It would be an interesting test. Cheers!
I’m not sure I’ll even open this tomorrow when it comes? What killed it for me was when you pointed out all you can do is stream games. Not any apps so I can’t watch a movie while the game is on. Thanks for the heads up!
You bought it without even knowing what it does?
You're a perfect consumer.
A perfect sucker😮
@@TaretsI’d assume the PlayStation streaming device would actually be able to stream the stuff coming from the PlayStation.
@@-Burb That’s what I thought? So at least I’m not alone. I did try out the portal and it is pretty cool. You can have something on tv and still play your PS5. I had no lag, but my router is right under my tv.
3:29 "We all have 4k TVs"
Me: Ey ah, No I don't.... wanna throw me one of your spares?
How is this thing not just a good second screen to stream whatever you're looking at on your PS5? It's so odd that it seems to have issues with specific games. How did this get through testing?
Curious question: if you have to use your PS5 to use it then are you just doubling your Internet data usage? Internet companies are starting to put data limitations on home users, and charge some more for extra data So if it ups your internet data you're not just paying extra for the PlayStation you're also paying extra for your internet to be able to use it?
My biggest problem with this is I guarantee there will be SO many kids or parent's that have purchased one of these for Christmas thinking it's something it's not - that's not inherently on Sony. But it's really difficult to see what the purpose of this product is outside of the niche use case of playing your PS in another room. Which is fine, but that's a limited number of people surely
i have a question, yes we all know the online games and shi where u do need a connection, but for story mode games or js games that dont need a connection, do those games work fine outside of home ? they should right ?