The Barbie Movie is not a Real Film | Plastic Pills
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- Images are immoral, and the Barbie Movie is the image of the Barbie Icon is the image of California is the image of America.There are not many as prolific as this plastic toy.
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Going to watch Barbie for the depth of its philosophical thought, and then Oppenheimer a couple hours later for the shits and giggles.
And then u find out that Oppenheimer is a horror movie
Bring a stick with you to Oppenheimer so you can poke the folks that have fallen asleep from high-brow science-heavy story.
I watched them both yesterday. That actually happened. I honestly cried at the depths of Barbie's philosophical thought, while Oppenheimer was a good fanservice (I'm familiar with the source material since decades ago) that the film made me point at the screen and giggle a lot. I was like, "That's the apple! That's Niels Bohr! That's the gun-type design! That the Bhagavad GIta quote!" Fun. Barbie made me solemnly weep and reexamine my life.
@@alislila4296Oppenheimer literally has horror tropes such as jump scares, uncomfortable silences, occult references, and Gore wtf you're literally right
@@martinheidegger458 If you want to see a good movie about the nuclear bomb, watch the original Godzilla film - from the perspective of the victims, not American filmmakers seeking little golden men.
Calling it now: Barbie's "Real World" turns out to induce a mental break in which she experiences Lacan's "Real" and the rest of the movie descends into a series of images and ideas briefly flashed on the screen, making a reference to the adrenochrome trip sequence in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, another "Real Film"
Just saw it yesterday, and you're not wrong
RIGHT!!! And the movie literally explores gender preformativity as a function of THE DEATH DRIVE!!! I don’t understand why no one else is bringing this shit up! I feel like I’m fucking crazy
As a wise Danish Barbie Girl once sang: "Imagination, life is your creation."
Not Danish, Norwegian. Who cares though…
This better have Baudrillard in it
Baudrillard: " no, not another Hollywood movie with my ideas deformed to unrecognition ".
hyped on hyperreality
Just Proust
Jesus Proust
David Lynch made a 4 minute Barbie movie as a coffee commercial. Mattel hated it, so I doubt this film is going the Mulholland Drive route.
Whut??
Link?
@@FilmsCourt czcams.com/video/2BSgM56SSJ0/video.html - enjoy
It'll just be The Lego Movie with a different product. There's something that bothers me about The Lego Movie: it's this ironic quasi-critique of consumerism that gets a lot of praise from critics, even though it's just pure unadulterated product placement. It's a 100-minute ad that tries to associate the brand with the idea of creativity, but for Millennials as well as kids. And this idea can do so much damage.
I've seen this trend in recent movies that their core idea is ill-thought out, but they'll bombard the viewer with so much imagery and and creative talent that the viewer is just emotionally blackmailed into liking the movie, and by extension, the idea it represents. And it'll be a commercial, popular, and critical success, everyone participating in this cycle of corporate propaganda. Horrifying.
The Real is a desert, indeed.
Yeah, I don't think this movie is going to deliver the politically sublime, much like the Lego Movie(s) never did. It's going to deliver $$$ tho, and I think this 'damage' was already done long ago.
I jus' wait until a film is relatively "free" on bbc, itv, or channel 4, then half watch it, if i find it that day & time. I still assess it, critique it.
I did that wi' the Lego film. I was pretty aware it was wan, long, daft, advert, so,,,no te trust it.
I know fine well, that the Barbie film, is the same.
It'll jus' tap inte trends, injokes, hings it hinks will make it cool. But, at the end of the day, its capitalism & consumerism, its plastic.
I never really like't Barbie 😹 i grew up on charity shop & carboot sale 1970's Action Man & Sindy, then dislike't the 90's versions that look't aw bodybuilder & bodycon(i felt the articulation suffer't, an' the clothin' quality reduced). I never like't the obsession Barbie had wi' pink, that was 1000x wirse then Sindy. Though, Sindy was gettin' mair obsessed wi' pink by the 80's & well inte the 90's, that extremel, she wasny much different fae Barbie 😹 she jus' had bigger feet, wi' a gentle heel slope(the only hink that made me get 1 90's Sindy doll, fae a post office visit, when wee, was that she still had proper feet).
So, aye, i'm no taken in by the manipulative feelin' marketin' in the trailer te try say the film is fir me, even if i "hate" Barbie 🤔 nawh, I'm beyond "hate", I'm in "canne be bothered" & "do not need" territory.
Dolls are valid, they have their place empathy & mental health wise, fir comfort, an' fir social skills, an' such. But, they do not need te be Barbie. A doll can be homemade, it doesny need te be commercial. Doesny even need te be plastic. Clay, wood, fabric, wool, as long as its safe te play wi'. Mattel didny invent Barbie, they purchased the rights te bild lilli, an adult gag/joke doll, then attempted te make her wholesome. Whit Bild Lilli & Barbie proves, is children will play wi' whitever is lyin' roond, an' grabs their interest.
I'm sort of wonderin', if this film is only in existence, as a belated fight back, at the bild lilli truth bein' on the internet 🤔 a big long advert, te overshadow any wee internet articles.
@@commielnino with both films featuring a Will Pharrell cameo as the “man behind the curtain.”
what's the damage that is done and how does it accomplish that damage? just interested
@@hashly8521 The idea of philosophical thought and application being coopted by corporate activity. My view is that its been going on for quite some time now ie consumer culture. Like, the sense that something is only worthwhile or meaningful unless its paid for. Its great that plastic pills put his stuff up for free rather than hiding it behind a paywall, and to that regard it can be thought of as an act of resistance.
I enjoyed the movie. I interpreted it as a comic Existentialist / Absurdist commentary on the human condition. I watched it through the lens of my admittedly-superficial understanding of Becker's Denial of Death, Greenberg, Solomon, and Pyszczynski's Terror Management Theory, and Heidegger's Being-towards-death. The writers don't even try to be subtle: before she undergoes her late transition towards "self-aware Barbie" (as you accurately, if cynically, predict) she starts by becoming "death-aware Barbie". (I suspect that any attempt at subtly would have been completely and hopelessly lost.)
I'll be curious to see if the sequel continues exploring the necessity of suffering in creating a meaningful life.
Count me pleasantly surprised.
Barbie is an imaginary film (before you watch it), and then it becomes symbolic.
You should make a part two or something after watching the movie. I’d love to hear more of your thoughts.
Class or wealth and its power is never a conversation in this movie or really any media now. Most media seems to be hyper focused on identity politics lately.
They never focused on class or wealth. They weren’t always about IdPol, granted, but serious critiques of class society were never anything widespread in Hollywood. Probably the closest we’ve gotten in modern times are the movies Parasite and Squid Game, but even then, those just vaguely gesture at wealth disparity instead of analyzing how class society functions
It always makes me cringe whenever online discourse is referenced in a movie.
Well, at least after release someone can read "Preliminary Materials for a Theory of the Young-Girl" to the backdrop of a Barbie movie.
I want to thank you so much for keeping this video at just under 12 minutes. I've seen many a movie critic say a lot less with far, far more time. I was curious to see if this video was gonna say anything more complicated than "the girl thing is bad", and you gave it your best shot. If I had spent more than 12 minutes watching to get to that message, I could see myself getting frustrated.
The Lacanian nightmare is always worse than you think, because inherent to it is the idea that at one time we could tell fantasy and reality apart, like Baudrillard said, but I'm not so convinced that this was ever possible. Even when some people in history seem to be playing 5D chess with the minds of others, they too prove to be possessed by an image.
Not in the last 50.000 years. Part of what gives us creative powers is the ability to believe in fantasy and abstract thinking. The sad part is how often these are used to simply reproduce the ruling power structure.
I don't think that's correct: for Lacan, fantasy has always been the support of reality, allowing it to run "smoothly." As for Baudrillard, I haven't read anything by him, but from what I've read about him, I'm not too keen on the philosophy of his later years.
Best script I've ever read
Was it not for the repeted voicing of the script and thus revealing the "best sript I ever read" as the script it is, it would have been a good script for advertising the movie
Probably have to overcompensate for anything feminine coded because women and their interests aren't taken seriously. So anything 'girly' starts at a disadvantage with it's seriousness and competency automatically questioned.
Seeing images of professional actors being paid during staged events to say that the script for the boundaried reality film based on the factory produced plastic female we use to indoctrinate females on what females should be is giving me a headache...it feels like a Brandon Cronenberg production.
Ideology and images are inescapable. To abandon images is to embrace that there's nothing "sacred" out there. Everything is ultimatelly rooted in material, a description prescribed, from which other descriptions/images emerge and implode on themsleves.
I dont think this will ever be generally acknowledged. Only discussed in esoteric circles like this youtube channel. I mean, to try and perceive material "for what it "really" is" is in itself also an image. I dont think we will ever see this level of self-awareness in pop media lol. Great analysis 💓
well sure, this movie will nestle comfortably in that "neo-pop, deliberate camp" zone. it will look pretty and maybe reference higher art for no reason. but, if no one "wants" or expects anything more from it, then i don't see the problem. (or maybe you don't see it as a problem either, just a discussion, as we are starting to see more and more films pretending to be Real Films.)
but on the other hand, i (and all lovers of anything deliberately camp) enjoy seeing movies that have this veneer of Real, without having to be a Charlie Kaufman horrifying empty edge of the universe liminal space. i like to have the untuned guitar strings of my mind just gently plucked at sometimes, rather than broken in a psychologically horrifying mess. sometimes i wanna see a film that pretends to challenge stuff rather than SCARING my brain y'know? simple as.
there's something to be said for the "this is kinda good" tier of content, more than just "well it's not Real." that's probably why Daria is my favorite comfort show.
Why are you acting so defensive over a critique? You liked the movie, so what? I don't get why you see this critique as creating a 'problem' or feel the need to explain your enjoyment of it.
I don't understand why under every movie critique of a popular product there's people trying to justify their enjoyment of it, if you enjoy it that's fine. This critique isn't an attack on you as a person, you're not being directly called out, the guy who made it probably has no idea who you are.
@@markgrayson6771 hmm, i reread my comment and do not pick up a defensive tone - putting some words in all caps is just something i do and for some people it probably indicates anger but i don't mean for it to.
my intention in writing my comment, was to explore / ask for clarification on the video creator's intention.
i couldn't really pick up from the video, whether the creator was saying that:
A) more movies should be Real
B)that a movie that pretends at being Real, and isn't, is fake/artificial (in a way the video creator dislikes)
C) simply that the Barbie movie is not Real and using this fact more as a device to explain to his audience what a Real movie is and is not.
and so, my comment was basically me stabbing at points in order to spark that discussion. as well as waffle on about some of my own opinions.
this subject is fascinating to me, especially as i would categorize a lot of movies as being somewhere BETWEEN "Real" and "Mainstream/Accessible." (which i'm sure the creator would, also.)
for example, another Kaufman classic, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.
like, i would put Barbie significantly lower than that one, on the Real scale, but, it's not really "pretend deep" either, is it?
also, Invincible is a fantastic show!!(i assume you are a fan of Invincible, or you just happen to have that name irl haha)
3:44 that's the commodity property, a mass produced item in which it doesnt' differ from other commodity items
what about things that aren't mass produced but is only made for its exchange value?
Doesn't the realization that we are in a loop of images become just another segment of the loop. You can't escape reality because the process of escaping reality is a part of reality in and of itself. If you defied your fate then it wasn't fate to begin with.
Well, yeah. In fiction. Change is possible in reality. You can always break with tradition sometime, although you can't break all traditions all of the time. Unless you want to write another Voynich Manuscript.
It's just becoming more noticeable when brands are allowing us to peer behind the veil in order to deepen the experience of buying their thing.
Every reviewer is trotting out the line that it’s subversive. That’s capitalism in a nutshell.
The "Self-Aware" irony movies are a form of boring cultural acid washing. So, is this movie going to be just a product placement version of the 1998 movie "Pleasantville"?
What?
I think the part with the girly shoe vs the Jesus shoe is flawlessly extant. Very excited to watch. 🎀
My guess is the film will be yet another rancid "reflexive" and "subversive" mass produced film that deals with authenticity and being your "true self", the critics will love it for it's boldness and dareness "that is more relevant today than ever, blah, blah..."
The new spider man did the exact same thing. At some point the main character realizes that there is an infinity of spiderman stories that have the same story beats that are bound to repeat in his story as well and then... decides he's just different and will have his own story. But this is such a cop-out, like comon follow up on the implications of your own worldbuilding
@@psychedelicpirate3355 yeah, i thought that at first until it's explained that he is actually special in a negative way, as the only spiderman that shouldn't be spiderman and thus the root of all the multiversal commotion. It depends on how the next film goes, but i believe this is a great example of the production of difference in a Deleuzian way
@@Bojoschannel So spiderman was deep actually, but of course you already know everything about the Barbie movie, over a month before it hits theaters. huh...
@@allyson87 "my guess"
@@Bojoschannel and why is that??
barbieland is cute and relaxing, the blogger is not wrong, id like to visit too.
idk i remember playing with barbies and it was nothing like u described, maybe bc im not american so never cared for california or whatever, idk a bit needlessly jaded
I agree, I think there's room for more nuance here. It's not surprising that some women are nostalgic about a happy childhood memory like Barbie: how many remakes have there been based on toys and cartoons marketed at boys? Especially when many millennials and gen z are reaching the life milestones associated with adulthood later, if at all. If adulthood is about paying bills, rent and an unfulfilling job (rather than freedom, autonomy and possibility) to many people it's not surprising that they look back fondly on their childhoods.
It's hard to tell from the parts quoted but it seems like the article was lighthearted and tongue in cheek and it seems unnecessary to react to it like the writer is being sincere about their desire to live in Barbie's dream house.
The whole point of critique is to attempt to reveal the symbolic unconscious core within our seemingly simple and conscious thoughts, desires, and beliefs. You do not need to literally consciously 'care for california' to have an image of it unconsciously reproduced as a type of fantasy, which clearly you have bought into. That's why Marx, Nietzsche, and Freud are considered the hermeneutics of suspicion, and much of philosophy follows this course. This whole fantasy being juxtaposed to modern life is not finding autonomy and possibility outside the realm of consumer capitalism, it is merely to fall towards the type of phantasmic fantasy that is reproduced within capitalism pretending as if it lay outside it. The juxtaposition between this pink, shiny, hyperconsumerist, workless life to the precarity of modern capitalism is not an opposition between two worlds, but mutually enforcing extreme opposites within that single world. It is an image of what life 'should be' like free of the struggles of capitalism within capitalism itself, packaged as something one desires when they face the real world.
It completely distorts and redirects what our images of an unalienated and free life would be like, confusing it with the sort of superficial, crass, and homogenous 'utopia' depicted with the barbie world. And if Plasticpills is right about his guess, then the barbie movie becoming more 'real' is nothing more than the cynicism one feels regarding this fantasy, the by now common knowledge that such a fantasy can only remain just that, turning itself into a generic trope so that, to quote the Invisible Committee, "We live enveloped in a fog of commentaries and commentaries on commentaries, of critiques and critiques of critiques of critiques, of revelations that don’t trigger anything, other than revelations about the revelations."
@@kshproductions7996 i meant that if ur not american and a kid you vaguely know about los angeles and new york and thats it, one has palms the other has building, there isnt the whole consumeristic california whatever, and barbie overseas has very different connotations even for adults thats why his description of barbie in such a definitive way was meh, and the movie isnt out yet, and a cashgrab can be a good movie made with love by people working on it, these "real" movie distinctions are kinda bullshit. however ur saying like three different things making it seem just one and the ending has nothing to with anything? yeah stuff becomes more meta and "gritty reboot" because people want to be soooo innovative and theyre always boring and wrong, removing joy from things turn out doesnt make them better.
@@nullskey8370 Okay, I see that you aren't someone who's a regular on this channel nor someone with the philosophical background to be able to make sense of it, let alone argue proper with it; nor with most if not all of my comment at all either. I assume you just clicked on this video because the title provoked you to watch the video.
@@kshproductions7996 ......bro i did the philosophy and can use a semicolon get down that high horse, but maybe, maybe im not that serious about a yt comment. i clicked to see what he meant for "real" and what could he know about a movie just from the trailer, there was no answer to my curiosity, and i found a filmbro being cynical behaving very much like a filmbro, and if my comment didnt answer yours beat by beat with all the right words maybe bc it's 4 am and i dont feel like writing all that for a yt comment
It's incredible how hard it is to break away from all of this. I watched this video when it was first released but forgot that I'd seen it. A few weeks later my friend asked me about the Barbie movie and I actually relayed the marketing line about its script and its attempt to be a "real" movie. Mind you, I hadn't encountered any marketing for the movie directly - only through your video. After I answered my friend, I started prodding my memory for where I might have received the info I was relaying but came up empty until rewatching your video just now. I don't know who exactly nailed the spirit of what I'm writing here - the idea that even criticism gets folded into the gaping maw of capitalist reproduction and marketing - was it Guy deBord? Baudrillard? Mark Fisher? Maybe it's a bit of all of the above... Whoever it was, they nailed it.
Thats is a solid point. I had an opinion myself on FB after seeing Barbie. I just spit out something I read from Psychology Today -totally unoriginal? Why? Movies really don't do much for except on a sentimental note, yet I forced myself to make a statement. Cultural reproduction. It all feels elitist.
Okay. Hear me out, weirdos. What if Barbie can be the true name of god? It is internationally known and understood. What if this movie tries its best to move the lonely to the cult of Barbie, and then takes a weird u turn into the Avatar universe, with Barbie being the Awa (sp?) of planet earth in Avatar 5. Only half kidding here.
Ulysse Carriere when she does too much K:
I just realised that none of the discourse around the Barbie film talks about Mattel's supply chain. That's interesting because isn't it supposed to be par for the course these days for woke-presenting capital to do these types of acknowledgements (and how "we're getting better")? Or did they feel like they've done enough ethical sourcing PR recently not to attract that type of attention? Guess they're right cus I've been getting "woke-left-liberal take on Barbie" recommended vids (prob cus I watched this one) and all of them are gushing with praise (so I assume they don't mention this despite not watching them). Turns out "unethical consumption" is itself a commodity that can be taken off the assembly line whenever demand plummets.
They did enough wokewashing to sell people the film and called it a day.
Me - "I wonder if I should check out this feminist barbie utopia"
Malibu PD - "STAY OUT OF MALIBU LEBOWSKI"
the SNL sketch with donald glover about barbie’s marketing team is more “real” than this movie could hope to be because by being situated on SNL it does not try to conceal that it is empty
Actually, I just noticed that the top comment (from years ago and with 41k likes) is “I would totally watch a movie about Barbie realizing she is a toy and having an existential crisis.”
@@pinklemonadeschannel That just sounds like Buzz Lightyear with extra steps.
@@pinklemonadeschannel Life Size, with Tyra Banks.
I can't tell if you love the film as an art object, or that you hate it as idolatry.
Can't it be both?
Watched it yesterday and everything you said is soo on point
The Barbie movie happened, but everything stayed the same.
Ryan gosling is a real human being and a real hero
Your review actually has me wanting to see the movie. I did not want to see it before. I would have rather had covid. Now, I just want to see how messed up we all are..
or you can spend your time doing something else better 🤷♂
@@0RTH0CHAD There is an alternative to the blue pill? 😶
I think I get what you more saying about the image and simulacra and I get what it means for the movie and your opinion on that ( which I actually find myself agreeing) what I don’t get is what you name a “real movie” and why criticising “hippie” directors, blockbusters, nostalgia films etc. have anything to do with “real movies”
Just watched the film and a lot of this holds true but that was too be expected. From an advertisers perspective it’s perfect; a liberal and radical feminist story that reinforces the images produced by Barbie itself but moreover it’s own critique of the patriarchy and in many ways capitalism. And while Gerwig is certainly libbed up but there is a level of deeper messaging here that isn’t explicitly stated or advertised - the Barbie world is a parody of itself, everything is so hyper idealised and overdone that the ‘feminist’ message of, in essence, the matriarchy, is ridiculous and moreover the radfem messaging espoused is so ludicrous it too becomes a parody of itself. Maybe I’m giving Greta too much credit just because I like Ladybird and Little Women (and this movie), and it probably is just a surface level radfem, status quo reinforcing, product placement meant to evoke the sense of a ‘real film’ but it really did feel somewhat deeper than that.
Being a parody is part of the ad. Bernays ftw. Watch the original 1993 super mario movie, it's also self-aware, ridiculous, etc. The difference being it was genuinely creative and had nothing to do with mario (hence "bad"). This one does what it's supposed to do. I imagine Ken dolls are an optional/supplementary purchase, so the matriarchy follows from that. The entire plot is like roleplay suggestions use instructions on the back of the box. None of this is new. The woke messaging isn't new tho obviously more recent. Oppenheimer is also nothing new - "Amerikkka created this terrifying evil weapon, aren't we just so terrifying and evil (but so is the other guy)". Nevertheless the collaborative ad campaign for Mattel and nukes was ingenious and succeeded in convincing people otherwise anyway, so credit where it's due.
I don’t think anything you mentioned fundamentally opposes the idea it is a product image first and foremost, but I don’t think that means the movie wasn’t good or deep in other ways, necessarily. I do think the movie explicitly critiques the Barbie world matriarchy, mostly through Ken’s character and his experience in the flipped hyper-real world. One example is There was a line about getting kens represented in government as they get ‘equality’ for kens near the end “as much as women are in the real world,” which is about as on the nose as it gets
@@augustmericle6776 I don't think anyone round these parts would suggest the film earnestly endorses some matriarchal idyll. It doesn't really endorse anything, not even Barbie. The point is that both Barbie World and Real World are hyperreal. The imperfections/problems, as well as their acknowledgement and critique play out within that hyperreality and reproduce it.
Btw "matriarchy" is a patriarchal 19th c concept. The societies we call matriarchal are/were in fact matrilineal and matrifocal, but rarely (if ever) matriarchal.
uncanny valley of the dolls
I thought it was a really enjoyable movie, even if it wasn't "the best script I've ever read" levels of great. I hope that the sequel has Barbie realizing that although she has escaped the plastic world of Barbieland, she still exists in the imagined world of a Barbie movie and then spends the rest of the movie trying to break through the fourth wall only to realize that reality itself is just a construct we humans invented in our heads in order to make sense of an otherwise unknowable reality. But given how unrealistic of a hope that is, I'd recommend the movie on its own, and I'd love to see another video deconstructing it.
Please make a video about the Barbenheimer phenomenon ❤🔥
Me: man that Mulholland drive movie really reminds me of something...
*David Lynch*
Ah, right!
The perfect ending of Barbie movie would have been that halfway the movie switched to Neon Demon.
thank you. give me a gaspar noe or a trier barbie
Images are immoral. Yes. Death to eyesight!
I'm reading that Simulacra and Simulation book, slowly, cause I gotta look up at least one word per paragraph, even though I'm only half way through I'm pretty sure Baudrillard would agree that this movie isn't a real movie. I also kind of suspect that that angry 40 minute review Ben Shapiro made of the movie is part of the movie, ie , the people who made the movie intended for it to get that reaction and so to metastasize into the political discourse at large.
THis video weirdly gave me a whole new dimension to the work of John Steinbeck
I don’t expect it to go full Mulholland Dr, but it will probably have a tension between the desire to go that direction and the limitations of it being a Barbie movie. Noah Baumbach directed White Noise, which does deal with simulacra, so I at least expect that there will be some awareness and meta critique of what it is.
Changing Images of Man, both Campbell's work from '59 and the SRI's study of the same name in '72, continue to remain relevant in this regard. I feel like American shopping malls encapsulated this to a certain extent - a house of mirrors where all the various fares are the mirrors. Most are gone now, of course, but just like Barbie leaving for the "real world", the mirrors have only been shifted.
i hate to talk abt mark fisher, but I do think his idea that critiques of capitalism are incorporated into the system itself is very accurate here.
that being said, I'm not sure why ppl are surprised this wasn't a feminist or marxist film? like cmon bro this was made by aassive corporation that wants to sell u toys, what can u possibly expect from the politics
@@dementedfairy7373I think it’s reductive to call this not a feminist film. Of course it’s a product and an image first and foremost, but some people who have not been exposed to much feminist messaging have a lot to reflect on. It’s basic consumerist feminism, sure
@@augustmericle6776 there's literally no feminist theory present
Yes I watched the film and all I could think was mark fisher would have hated this haha
@@augustmericle6776the issue is that it sells you a product and it also sells you the critique of the product in that way rendering the critique meaningless
greta gerwig directing hahaha the spectacle definitely gets more sophisticated over time, which is why it's important to read and be aware and stuff. lest you get tricked and dragged into it
There's already people upset Plastic Pills called her an hipster director, apparently she's making a serious film... with Barbie.
this video was basically men trying to figure out women movie
I went to the movies
the other night
the plot was plastic
man, it was outta sight
I was expecting a pg john waters kind of charm from the teaser but the writing in the main trailer and the fact that they rejected the charli xcx song i got a bad feeling about this
Movies are so good for the past couple of years, that i started to rewatch classics like Heat and Ronin.
A common question: can you really say that it's a nostalgia movie while the only difference now is that it's a movie that's not directed by Mattel?
You’ve introduced me to ideas that have changed my life, all I can offer in return is a song recommendation that I think you might like, it also maybe would work well in your videos, it’s called “Frank Sinatra” by Cake
Ok, but you made a video before watching it??? I saw it. It was spectacular, and pretty funny at times. It felt like the movie barely touched on the surprisingly hefty existential themes it carried though, it found a way to be about them without thoroughly exploring them. And then the plot felt barely realized really - which is a shame, because it WAS an interesting outline of a plot.
Never watched Mulholland Drive. But I have seen Ryan Gosling without his shirt.
This was painfully interesting. I had no idea I would be so interested in a commentary about the freaking Barbie movie. Unfortunately I feel like I’m going to have to watch the movie now.
the Barbie movie is most certainly yet another creation of the almighty Moloch. Atleast that's the impression I got from watching the trailer.
Hoping for some cool merch to be released alongside the movie😎
She will be the most popular Halloween costume this year
we need a mulholland drive breakdown
ok now your youtube short makes more sense about what you were saying about "best script ever" and "real"...I didn't see this full video about the "Real World"
“The Barbie movie did not take place.”
Look, it's Metanarrative Barbie! Existentialism sold separately.
Man you’re good at this
today on plastic pills: The Barbie Movie Did Not Take Place
Don't they have another actress rather than Robbie. I am tired of seeing her in every other movie released.
You need to watch Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, touches on these themes deeply.
This is about to be the biggest film of the summer, and it will be fantastic.
what's the third film mentioned in the bounded-reality trope examples
I cant make out the first word, only new york
Synecdoche, New York
Will likely be addressed in your follow up, but what makes Muholland Drive a "real film" (an assumption of mine since you rec'd it in opposition to Barbie, I have not watched but will)? Some claim to originality, immune to or void of the circulation of ultimately empty images of images? What/who's definition of "real" is being used, and is it limited to film/cinema/movie distinctions or more universally to images and their reproduction or lack thereof?
I think you answered your own question somewhere through there, for my part I can't imagine a real film any more than I can imagine a fake dream🙃
@@PlasticPills ahh upon rewatch (great video btw) 1:45 you're extremely clear that real ~= serious, or at least goal of being taken seriously, intellectually, critically, etc, your highlighting of all the actors parroting the "best script I've ever read" line, low effort image reproduction of Space Odyssey. Sry I watched it for first time at 3am after Japan jet lag 🧠. In that regard, yeah, I have a hard time believing it will be able to hang with predecessor *serious* bounded reality films (which is a neat genre to explore in itself, thanks for the shot of those examples btw). Like, it could have probably had essentially the same plot without having to involve the Barbie™️ product/image, just some dolls. Pretty clear they're trying to make some *real* $$$ with this 😅
@@ageofbumfires5216 But could such a film get green-lit in the current industry? Studios only want to fund projects with an already popular brand. But people are also missing a lot of subtext in the marketing and might be surprised when Barbie comes out.
@@allyson87 id assume films that go brandless (or starless) always have an uphill battle for green light, particularly for theatrical national release. Some break the mold (Everything All at Once), but many more are slept on, and those in that lane probably need a wealthy benefactor, independent studio, and like *actually* have to stir some real feeling in the audience, and not just be eye candy. And yeah, I'm sure a lot of people are not going to have a clue about the bounded reality nature and just think Barbies a normie nostalgia movie. White Noise was an interesting green light for me (I'm thankful it was). Something like a 140M budget and made 80k in box office lol, but i think it only happened bc of the insane speculation that went into the streaming wars, and of course the Adam Driver angle. The budget of this Barbie movie is 100M, it's got the Barbie brand, the big time star and cameo brands, one star for each demographic lol (Gosling, Robbie, Will Ferrell and... fking Michael Cera?? lol Dua Lipa, John Cena hahaha wtf, they put everyone in it) so you know they trying to make bank. I saw the rating is going to be PG-13, it's categorized as *comedy/fantasy*, so looks like it's trying to attract largest demographic. I wish it would have gone dark comedy with an R-rating. If I had to guess they're gonna go closer to Zoolander with this based on cast. If they leave it open for sequels, some kind of Barbieverse like every other cash cow franchise out there now (how many Fast and Furious movies can they make jfc 😂), it'll be crystal clear where their hearts at. Money rules the world, so the odds are always in that direction.
@@ageofbumfires5216 So just watch indies then. Obviously major studios are interested in $$$; that’s literally why they exist. You think they have hearts, lol? But why is Barbie the target for such criticism, instead of other nostalgia movies with much larger budgets??🤔
Yeah, you ASSume a lot, especially that Barbie won’t “like *actually* have to stir some real feeling” and will “just be eye candy.” What’s that about?🤨 We don’t know that Barbie’s a “bounded reality” film; that’s just conjecture of this video. Imho, it looks more like a metamodern heroine’s journey with pop culture references. But clearly people outside the target audience think it can’t be more than “just a normie nostalgia movie.” (But who’s a “normie” in this context?) Even if that’s all it turns out to be, at least they’re catering to a different demographic…but there’s what people are actually upset about and looking for intellectual justifications.
Btw 100M is a small to moderate budget for a branded movie with those names; Mario had the same amount without big names and accomplished writers. The Little Mermaid’s budget was 250M. Indiana Jones (2023) got 295M. So far they’ve made 10 Fast and Furious movies, the one released earlier this year had a 340M budget; all F&F movies since 2011 have had budgets larger than Barbie’s. Actually Barbie’s budget with those names might indicate that they invested the money wisely and it is a quality project. The “best script” quote I keep hearing adds “it’s a shame that we’re never going to be able to make this movie.”
have you done a video on Mulholland Drive? I'd enjoy watching you talk about Mulholland Drive lol
Singer Dexta Daps, in a song titled Heartless has this line: " mi modda did warn me, bwoy pickney nah sleep with Barbie". I think about it a lot. Is it racist or not?
Oh, I think I remember this. I dunno if it's a metaphor for white girls tho. Could be girls who do plastic surgery and makeup? Or it could be girls who put up false appearances of themselves (fake in character)?
assuming Dexta is black (= your typing in patwah) and Barbie is assumed to be white , can it be racist?
No, it's self-aware and stuff...
I was hoping it was going to be a third way (not matrix, nor mullholand dr., but a third and possibly better one), don't know why, although the first trailer -not the 2001 teaser, the multiple kens and barbies one- was promising. And then the full trailer came and oh, fuck, this is going to be a matrix movie. And I don't know if that's better than a real real real barbie movie would be (you know, a 1990-2000s feel-good-movie)
Did you mean to type 'immortal' instead of 'immoral' in the first sentence of the description?
Wow, this was the most insightful analysis of a trailer ever, especially at 8:48 "This is goona exchange on regime of images for another regime of images. Your choice of reality comes down to a choice between products". Wish you get 100k subscribers soon, you deserve it!
Is Elf a limited reality film?
You see it? Thoughts post viewing?
Pills is a master of evoking the 'postmodern spook'.
*Chills everytime.*
I'm always glad to give my *click*
Many thanks for the video :)
The UK media presented it thus - which to see first. Oppenheimer or Barbie?
Barbie is the antidote to the atomic bomb. There is purpose in Barbie's life after all.
anypne has recos on what to read before debord?
great vid as always. this is an unrelated thing i need to get off my chest: why the hell is Ryan Gosling in this not-movie? lol.
Best script he ever read
Because he’s a known hot star?
Hadn't heard of it, now I almost wanna watch it.
Now i have to see the film to know if your kinda rambling take is accurate. Did you like the new twin peaks or find it too obsessed with metaphysics
Sandra Dee's 'Gidget'. . .
Gonna bet they pitched it as a ‘multiverse movie’
"Best script I've ever read" this may be true for the Gossman.
Hahaha
Idk, Drive must have been pretty impressive in its brevity (the 100 minute movie has 891 words).
Barbie is a hyperstition becoming a hyperstition - Another Pink World
That was the best review I ever heard. About a movie I probably never see. But now im interested 😂
The desert of the pink
The marketing team knows that it can tap into my desire for Jaime Pressly and get me to see this movie!
@Slater Novick Your comment illustrates well the difference between desire and drive
Your prediction was a bit spot on
my barbies were lesbian....mullholland drive anyone?
this barbie might be too...
Make a video about Baudilard's America
correction: SOUTHERN California coast. NorCal disowns every bit of that vapid shit. Lost Coast represent 🌲🌲🌲
First black pill movie ?
I thought it actually was pretty fun, idk