MP15 Switch Engine Working Afton Yard & Huhtamaki. Boxcar Graffiti & N&W Signals, Short Line Train
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2019
- Railroad switching action on an industrial railroad spur in Ohio! Huhtamaki, Batavia and Afton railroad yard switching action! Small switcher locomotive MP15DC teams up with GE B36-7 to shove a cut of boxcars with graffiti into Huhtamaki in Batavia, Ohio. Listen to these locomotives working and think about how these 4 axel units are disappearing from Class 1 railroads. 6 axel units are the only things being built anymore so catch these awesome locomotives while you can. In 10 years, who knows where they will be. Norfolk Southern owns this branch line and leases it to Cincinnati Eastern Railroad CCET. These 2 locomotives are the work horses for CCET since GP49 #2807 recently headed out west. First we see the locomotives headed west running light at Williamsburg, Ohio. They were returning from making a drop at Cohen Recycling in Macon, Ohio. Then we see 4 track Afton Yard with the old out of service N&W colour position lights. Next they are shoving an 11 car cut west toward Huhtamaki. Then we see them shoving into the plant and reversing and going forward as they switch the tracks and shove into the building. The small switcher just arrived recently and is a MP15DC. It replaces GP49 #2807. The other locomotive is a General Electric B36-7 that was obtained from TTI Railroad of Paris Kentucky last year. They have another one of these units but it has only been test ran one time and that was back in March, 2019 and it had some issues. Filmed May 28, 2019AD. Thanks for watching! Please comment, rate and SUBSCRIBE TO JAWTOOTH!!
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Great to see some short line switching... long BNSF and UP stack trains get boring after a while... I really enjoy the way you present your videos, very individual style that is fun to watch...
Cheers from Melbourne Australia
Are you an AFL fan, who do you barrack for?
Thank you Greg!
James Christensen St Kilda, playing in China this round... you?
@@gregbowen617 Carn the Saints! I live in Wisconsin USA, have never been to Oz, and am a Pies supporter. Aussie Rules, best team sport on planet Earth.
James Christensen I’m with you there mate. Non stop action and hard running, high marking, long kicks, bone crunching tackles and not a bit of padding in sight!!! 100 minutes of pure skill, guts and fitness. Some of these players can run 16-18 km in a game as well as doing all the skills required. They actually wear GPS tracking systems... no other sports come near it!!!!!
Best rail fan channel on CZcams, I enjoy this stuff, thank you!
Thank you!
Love your videos Jaw Tooth! From a railfan in Erie, PA, happy filming!
Thank you Mike!
Nice loud horn. Cool. Really enjoyed these thank you. 😊
I use to be the track supervisor on this line back in 2008. We inspected this line every Wednesday morning 72 miles Clare to Pebbles, Ohio.
Awesome! It was always in great shape also. You probably knew some of the guys I knew like Dave Henson and Jerry Blackburn
I love that GE chug! Great video, Jawtooth!
Hey Jaw ! , Love the MP-15 action , too bad there ain't two of them, that would be to sweet ! But the B36-7 is an awesome concellation as always ! Love it ! A bay window caboose Missouri Pacific style bringing up the rear would be AWESOME too ! SP Lives
The GE unit sounds like a Harley; EMD sounds like a 55 Chevy. I want that first signal you showed in my backyard.
Me too. It would be cool to have one of those. They are very heavy though
great video like how the numers are spay panting on the little engine lol
I know that spot well. I used to work in that building would take walks up to that fence at lunch time.Pretty cool watching those 2 locomotives at work.Thanks for the video and thumbs up.
Awesome! I would like to film from inside the fence but I bet they would frown on it. A few years ago I did film in there though. That place is pretty big.
🚂😎👍 I haven't seen one of those SW1500 switcher locomotives in a long time.
What a funky horn😀
Awesome LIVE ACTION. Wooooooo. I love the horn too. Thanks Brian.
Your a real Kick. Thanks for making something I already enjoy,Fun. Happy Rails to you,my friend!
Great horn on that mp15! Love the spray painted numbers on it too!
Nice catch there Brian! Gotta have the Jawtooth wave at the end! Cheers, Danny
Yup, cant forget that! Thanks for watching Danny!
Great switching action. I love that sound of that old diesel.
Thank you Lucien for watching and commenting!
The studio audience applause is classic. Good video.
Thanks! I recorded that at the Playhouse IN The Park in Cincinnati.
lucky find hanging out in yards cool signal
Smitty 3751
Another great video, the one thing I have to say is you are very safety consonance, great job
I personally think there's something classy about four axle units.
Me too. They are my favorite.
And in HO scale, they're less likely to jump the rails on the curves who's radii you've cheated on for space constraints !! 3 wheel-set trucks don't let you off the hook nearly as much...😎
Was watching an awesome video and a mullet popped up. Gonna watch again to hear you say Huhtamaki again lol thanks
Great video. Enjoyed it. Thanks 👍👍👍❤️
Thanks Don!
Hi JT, that train didn’t know if it was coming or going! Must say that the graffiti made the freight cars look so colourful, gives the kids something to do!! Again an awesome video, keep them coming. Regards Martin🇬🇧
Great video, good music too. Thanks from the UK
Such beautiful trains i love your videos and ccet😍😍
Top notch again Brian -showing all the details this time !!! I like the intrepid explorer title -well fits you buddy !! Just goes to show old engines don't die -they go to the outlands and carry on regardless -leave the new traction to the CCTV lines!! Love the sprayed on numbers -dont get better than this !! Top video Jawtooth -yet again .
Thank you Neil!
Thanks for the post to, "Fans of the Norfolk and Western and Virginian Railroads". Good screen grab
Thank you!
Great videos, keep them coming. Let me know next trip to Urbana.
Thanks for watching!
great video and awesome mullet at 12:42
superb video 😀
Loved the geese and the mullet! (:
Super Fantastic Video!
Nice touch with the 2009 insert.
Nice Train
Good too see the rails are being used. My company I work for made parts for Afton.
Thumbs up J T keep em coming . Must be no run round at track end . See they had to shove a few miles
Very nice !!!
Seriously thinking of a go fund me account to get that sad looking collection of power some damn paint. Home depot spray rig and some acrylic, sandpaper and krylon primer.
Lol
Now there's a fine idea.
I grew with Southern Pacific in CA worst looking ,Grey Engines you ever, but a Corp Raider bought or took over SP it got worse, then UP took SP.......
Very sad how Livery and tracks etc are let go into so much disarray. .....
wow... very nice Video!
Love your channel man...Me & son watch it daily...He loves trains
Awesome! We need new railfans to keep the hobby alive! My channel is family friendly and I'm glad you guys enjoy it.
Hi there how are you, great video thanks,
Is that the same line that serviced the Ford/ ZF Batavia transmission plant at Batavia?
not JT, but I think it is
Yes. Huhtamaki uses most of the old Ford plant. All those tracks were once used by Ford.
another cracking video !
Nice video love your channel
thanks Brian and Jackie and the girls.greetz:Peerke en Tony.
Greetings Tony and Peerke!
@@JawTooth i go visit here today Brian,wel its now 02:12 here.beer taste good.AMSTEL BIER.i gonna sleep now.
That last picture... yikes lol 😜
Good video.. Like the horn on that GE (but I'd still prefer the GP49).. Might feel different if they'd kept the 'TTI' on it.. Unusual power combination too, but I liked it.
It would have been cool to see it in TTI . I don't know if they brought it like that or changed it first. I went to Paris , Ky to see the TTI engines but I couldn't get very close due to fences and private property.
@@JawTooth Perfectly understood.. I have several similar experiences over the years.
Nice video my friend!👌🙂
Great video
Great video!!!
Thank you Jeff!
Your welcome!!
need to come down to the Arkansas and Missouri. they been having the I49 highway construction supply’s sent by rail. so far the largest load they brought in was a huge oversized construction crane. all being led by 7 roaring alcos engines!
Wow, I would love to see that!
Jawtooth - I observed an MP15 in a lash-up with 3 GP's pulling a freight through Biloxi Mississippi in 1987. They were lettered for the Seaboard System & moving at speed. I wondered " What is this switcher doing pulling a train with GP's? ". I looked up the MP15 engines & found " MP " meant " Multi-Purpose " & EMD considers them a road switcher; despite the end-cab design. The Seaboard System line through Biloxi was originally Louisville & Nashville; the L & N had bought 10 MP15s in the 1970s.
I love end cab units. The grain elevator in Winchester has an SW9 that I have in a ton of videos. I would love to see the two of them working side by side
Want the fun stuff in train videos, look no further, you found it! Enjoyed every moment. Painted on numbers - wonder why? Just makes things more interesting.
Thank you Joseph!
I would love that horn on my truck. In=magine the looks you'd get when you cut loose with them!
Just think of the funny videos you could make! Lolz
Good video sir enjoyed it :)
The old CCET loco that recently just got replaced down this short line wasin Pasco Washington a week or two ago,my friend saw it
Excellent video as usual JT. Sounds like 5895 has a manual low speed bell? I'm used to a steady rhythm of the bell as it's struck. ...hmm, like it did on the second run out of the Customer Yard. That's weird.
What!? You can't leave yet. They're not done. O.O :-D
This Is My Favorite Shortline Railroad In History!
Like thanks for sharing :)
We have mp15 switcher on Portland and western railroad in Oregon she is a hard working engine
Love them engines and that old signal again. That never gets old. It's a shame that the double signal was covered. Are you seeing any new positive train control towers , signals, radio towers, control boxes or anything like that new going in anywhere on the line Jaws? That would be my guess as to why the old signals ate covered?
I have seen them being installed but they don't need the signals or detectors on this line since it is just a dead end branch line with normally only one train operating at a time
Excellent vidéo @ Jaw cool like (( 😘👍 4 )) amitié Gérard
Thank you Gerard!
Great video my friend hey sometime u need come to Mexico mo and see the kcs ns side by side. But right now the floods got them closed
Wow, the flooding is really bad. I will look at that on Google Maps
@@JawTooth omg yes it's bad worse then 93
Happy Friday! 🔆
Nice
Really cool video man.. the twisters that hit round that area are the ones that went through my county in Indiana.. got a question and maybe you can help. How can i figure out when trains come through my town.. or trains rolling through howard county Indiana
FaceBook fan sites have a lot of info. Ask the people who live or work in that area and talk to the railroaders if they arent busy. Use a scanner to follow them. Put a small rock on the crossing gate arm at the end where the weight it so that you know if a train went by. The rock will fall off when the gates go down. Get up early when the light first comes out and start checking for trains. Most railroads are busy in the morning and evening. Sometimes I stay at motels next to railroad lines to figure out when they run. I have stayed at litterly dozens of motels by the tracks in a dozen states.
Hey, JT. It looks like you were at a bad spot because at the end you finally moved to where we could see what they were doing.
Cool!
Fantastic Video. Jaw Tooth. 🇮🇳
oh my GOD the very last pic is amazing XDDDD
Whoa nice Shot that railway is abandoned
Two great sounding locos there. What's with the number on 2414, was doing a good job too much to ask there? That photo at the end!
Chris probably painted it like that. Looks like his skill level. Lolz
So did they work with track warrants
Live Action!
Me and my family were all involved in those tornadoes we were in Dayton
hey Jawtooth awesome catch, I was wondering will they ever paint new engines and why they dont operate the signal? thanks again :-)
I doubt they will paint them due to the high costs and they have a handful of locomotives. They don't operate the signals because they usually only have one train operating at a time and not everyday. They aren't needed and cost a lot to maintain
Can you watch the videos of the shortline I Railfan in Chesapeake, the Chesapeake and Albemarle Railroad, or C&A?
They are 4 axel units
Gp7, gp7u, and GP38-2
Good
JT, that's your guitar music on there isn't it?... super good job. I played guitar for awhile until i discovered i'm tone deaf. lol
dope!
She probably didn’t know what U Tube was either.
2414 is the haunted locomotive 🚂 👻.
What's up with that sprayed-on number on the one locomotive?!?
The switcher? (Smaller, black unit)
StevePotts it’s a patch. The rr has no actual paint scheme so they just paint numbers onto an already painted loco.
What do they load the boxcars with ?
They ship paper rolls in and a few of the boxcars coming out have scrap paper
Looks like very old locomotives doing the switching
What happened to the GP49's they had?
They shipped 2807 to Columbia & Walla Walla Railroad a few weeks ago. The black one is stored near their office and the parts unit is still there also.
I see the SD has also left the line wonder what other changes they will do to this line far as motive power.
Both SD45s are sitting on the siding off Broadwell road . They are drained and out of service but I don't know why. Motive power does change a lot on this line so I need to film these units while I can. I love these older units
What makes that sound at 8:20 and several other places on the video?
Spitter valves on the engine I think.
@@matthewjones9912 - Thanks!
They're actually called "spitter valves". There is one on each main reservior and they are used to expell moisture from the air brake system. It seems like they tend to spit more in high humidity, cold weather conditions.
Any update on the new industrial park papa jertoof?
They are still building the huge buildings but they never started on a railroad siding. I'm having doubts about there being a customer there for the railroad
@@JawTooth dagummit, thats no fun for anyone
Did ccet sell the sd45s and gp49s at all?
They only got rid of one GP49 that I know of. During the winter the other locos were stored drained near Broadwell Rd
@@JawTooth thank you very much for the info
One of these days maybe you'll hear over the radio "there's that JawTooth guy ap ahead again".
I have heard that a bunch of times. Lol
You should put it in the videos if you haven't already.
Mr.Jawtooth, do you think the CCET would consider selling one of those signal heads. You say they've been out of service since 2005. They would make a nice show piece.
Norfolk Southern is the owner. You would have to ask them. They will eventually just scrap them
Yeah that's what i'm afraid of, i have bought things from antique shops. I'm a lover of old metal/ceramic signs, i have a crossbuck rr x-ing sign, and a switch stand, my favorite is an old semaphore signal head. I really hate to see things from yesteryear destroyed.
Is the MP-15 an ex Norfolk Southern unit?
That engine 2414 looks like the one that pushed cars in the Oakley and Norwood area.
I remember that one. I think it is still there
@12:10 is that an old NW boxcar in the background?
That is an old N&W semi trailor they Norfolk Southern used as a storage shed. I have a new video that will be out next week showing a train going by it. They also have some old Road Railer trailers sitting next to it
JT The last pic of u how many years ago was it taken?
I think about 5 or 6
Jaw tooth is the 332 still around the ex 3657 Erie Lackawanna thank you
It hasn't run in months. They had it drained and sitting on a siding east of Newtown, Ohio
I have a silly question. When a switcher is MUd to a road locomotive and in the lead, does it control all functions of the trailing locos like it were a road locomotive? Please forgive my ignorance.
Yes. Electrically, everything is controlled by the MU cables, and the brakes are controlled by air pressure using the brake hoses. Sometimes, some of the switches on the panel in a loco need to be set up to respond to controls from the leader, otherwise they will ignore the commands. The builders of locomotives came to an agreement decades ago to standardize the Multiple Unit controls and wiring so that locomotives would co-operate regardless of who built them or what the primary purpose of them was intended to be. MU control of trains goes back to the 1890's when electric trolleys and trams in the cities were being used. It later was adopted by diesel-electric builders, but it took some time for things to get smoothed out. Read more about it.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-unit_train_control .
@@stanpatterson5033 Thanks! So basically a switcher has the same type of controls as a road loco? I was asking because I've never seen a switcher lead a consist before. I have however, seen road slugs take the lead and act as the control cab!
Yeah, slugs can be equipped with a cab and controls. In the passenger train world, cab cars are common for push-pull setups, where commuter trains stay oriented in one direction, and simply run back and forth all day long. The locomotive is at one end, and the operating crew ride in it when they go "forward". When the train reaches the end of the line, they will change the brake controls to respond from the other end (this requires proper plumbing when built), the operator will walk to the cab car, do a brake test, and then run the train "backward" using the controls in the cab car. The signals get routed up from the cab car all the way to the locomotive via MU cabling. It's a lot cheaper to use cab cars than it would be to buy twice the number of locomotives, just so you could have a loco on each end, and of course, having two locos dramatically increases fuel consumption, maintenance needs, and other operational costs. A cab car might eliminate seating for 4 people in the space where the cab has to be built. Small price to pay over having a loco on each end of the train.
I made a reply, went to edit it slightly, and it froze up and the reply ended up deleted. Yes, slugs are essentially a complete loco with the big engine removed. There are some other modifications involved, but basically, it becomes a cab car. Slugs are usually permanently coupled to the mate which will be providing the power. A cab car is a passenger car that has all the needed controls to run a train, including brake controls, just no big engine. A passenger train (usually a commuter-type train that doesn't run thousands of miles before being returned or reassigned on another route) that covers short distances, sort of running back and forth on a set route, can have a locomotive at one end that is powerful enough to generate electricity for the train (for lights, heat, air con) and provide the propulsion. Because it takes a lot of effort or specialized equipment to turn a train around, they just build a special "cab car" that will be on the "back" end of the train. When building the cars and these cab cars, the specs will have to include MU cabling on every car that will be used in this configuration, as well as plumbing it for brakes that will function normally when the loco is pulling, and be able to send a supply to the tail end as well as be able to control the brakes from the tail end when the train reverses and travels "backward" in the direction from where it once came. It's a lot cheaper and more practical to plan for cab car and push-pull operation than it is to buy two locos to have one on each end of the train, or to figure out a way to turn a train around at the end of every run that it's going to make. A switcher locomotive is merely a smaller, and usually lighter version of a road loco. They can do the same basic functions, but today's road locos have huge, high-horsepower engines, often 3-axle trucks on each end, and a lot of dead weight. True switchers need some weight, but they also need flexibility, so most switchers only have 2-axle trucks, so they will not be putting lateral stresses on old rails at customers' sidings. A road switcher is a compromise between a true switcher, and a road loco. Road switchers have more power for pulling on the open roads, but still have the flexibility and visibility needed for crews to do switching and shunting operations. They still do the same basic functions, pushing and pulling freight cars around, so they have pretty much the same layouts, have the same type of equipment, so therefore can have MU controls to be able to work together when needed. Often, different locomotives will have different final gearing, this must be dealt with electrically to avoid straining one loco against another.
@@stanpatterson5033 Thanks! So a true switcher can act as a control cab for a consist of say 5 or 6 road locomotives.?
6:08 lol the ghost