*Sees Gustavo vs Holt battle is almost 8 minutes, proceeds to get excited* *Opens video up and sees that Steve Berra is reading the rules* *Realises game is not as long as initially anticipated*
“for a total of 3 upward hand twists” haha what a keen analysis! Thanks for highlighting the statistical significance of the high frequency of observed hand twists
f__k that kid even with Steve making Torey do shitty judging calls on his behalf he STILL lost to Jamie😅 and don't act like u didn't notice it. if you didn't, go re watch the game before u reply or else ur gonna look really dumb lol
It's also, unfortunately, not true. There are videos of him losing several battles, including to Giger and some of his Hop King teammates. He's very good, and when he's on his consistency level on ridiculously hard tricks makes him extremely tough; but he has off days just like anyone else.
WAIT A DOUBLE TRIPLE FLIPPIN SECOND was that really footage of DD skating?!? if it was them then thats AWESOME to know the legend is a local around my area lol.
it never ceases to amaze me... the time you put into this stuff... its really impressive.. im not one for cranking out math so its even more compelling.., pretty cool.. definitely a place for it
Your videos make stat math fun and relevant in the world of skateboarding which I wouldn’t have ever thought diverged! Congratulations you win, your videos are fun to watch!
To be honest I'm not a huge fan of Tyler Peterson's bs nollie 360 kickflip...I don't like when people do "180 land on the wheels and pivot" when doing 360s. These are pros.
no judge will ever call out Berra's golden Cariuma boy on it though. ppl need to use their flags and challenge that d bag every round this year and help stop him
You know anyone can say whatever they want about this channel, but DD's video never disappoint and always have so many details and fun facts, its just amazing
bro the last clip of that dude falling on the flat bar is literally a homie who skates at my local, wtf. caught me so off guard. I'm tripping rn. holy shit
Spencer and Aurelian should be in the battle again. At the end, we don’t know if obvious choices like them just don’t had time. But you are right they should focus on people that are known for being gods at flatground, instead of random choosing a pro
Tyler is probably the best flatground guy right now, but he is probably not even going to get to finals night this time given he said he’s filming a part. Funny how priorities change. Love his style though. Great job once again Dumb Data 👏🏾
The berrics must have a vendetta against Jeff. He is long past due for a chance to compete. I'm bummed every year when they release the bracket and he is excluded.
One day someone is going to have a brain and realize there is a cash prize.... THEN ! they will come here and read what people land and don't land, and practice those tricks.
There’s actually another video of some skater from the UK beating Jamie that I saw a while ago but I agree that Jeff needs in the bracket. That being said if someone can do any 5 tricks with a 360 body twist in it or an impossible then they may have a shot against him😂
Daaang. This was so good and I hope they learn. Spencer and Jeff would do crazy stuff in future battles. Even though they’re not “core” , the battle coordinators should realize they can make them money.
Griffith lost not only against dechesare but also against Giger and Alex Dachuña (which, as barton, it's a pity he is not invited at batb13). But at the berrics Jamie seems to take it more seriously and to be more focused.
"Notoriety" is a bad thing to have. Think about it, the root word is "notorious". So it means "fame for being evil" Charles Manson had notoriety. Not Tyler Peterson You must have assumed the root word was "noteworthy". It's a very common mistake
Jonny Giger beat Jamie in a pre-game before their BATB12 game, so Instagram's veteran double flip hucker is not the only person to ever beat Jamie in a recorded game of skate. czcams.com/video/ExfmL7VMV78/video.html&ab_channel=JonnyGiger Note how Jonny does not perform Nollie doubles or switch doubles in their actual game, where got Griffin three letters on these tricks.
I assume you’re talking about last season. Also, I was at finals night last season and was easily able to notice Chris cole wasn’t really trying that hard against jamie. He realized jamie can’t really do 360s on flat so he just stopped trying 360s. He could have easily beat jamie just by doing different variations of 360s. However I don’t really think jonny threw it like you’re saying.
@@zach3955 I don't think he threw it. He just didn't do the tricks the got Jamie letters in a previous game. I think Jonny isn't super competitive and was just looking for a fun game. Not necessarily going cut throat doing tricks that he knows can get letters.. Edit: Oops yeah sorry... Meant BATB12 not 13. Edited it now.
@zach3955 jamie can do proper 360's if you watch some of the hop king videos, he actually blamed the berrics flatground for being so slippery in one of them LMAO of course, im not saying this is an excuse to do them improperly, just restating what he said
In that recording, Jeff legit did a three shuv impossible, and then started a keyboard battle with some kid in the comments underneath because it got called out. The Jamie v Alex Decunha games are much better.
I think the way they set up the bracket is dumb. Why do they have people that both made it to the last finals night going against each other in round one? And there’s a lot of other weird stuff but I’m not tryna type a essay.
Berras the ultimate skate kook - how’s he going to say you’re a dick for using the challenge? Esp after not fixing the referee system and putting random ass dudes as refs. Why implement a rule then say that??
this is not really the place to come for meaningful statistics (that’s why it’s called dumb data) so I wouldn’t get too hung up on what the stats are named. for example, trick “difficulty” is half based on offensive success, whereas offensive success just shows people’s own ability to guess their competence at their own pet tricks, which has nothing to do with the trick’s intrinsic difficulty, despite being half of the “difficulty” rating. so just let him call things what he wants to and, like you did, understand what that each stat is, as designed, unable to actually reveal.
only skater in recorded history to beat jamie griffin..., well there was at least the guy from es after the berrics finals and i´m pretty sure there´s more than one game of skate online that he lost to his buddy alex decunha... so much about dumb data xD
doing a trick you already got a letter on but in fakie as a deathblow is scaredy cat territory. Tyler wanted to be 100% sure that there was no comeback
It's crazy that the 3 highest ELO scores are in the same quarter of the bracket (and 2 of them playing first round). And then the 4th highest being in the same half of the bracket! But playing devil's advocate, would we really want to see the same 4 skaters in finals night every year?
it’s bad bracket design, set up to have the best take each other out early, and keep other favored skaters persevering late in the event. and no, berra’s advocate, your narrative is not the same as food competition. the brackets are poorly seeded. sunny suljic? again?
nope. and That's why no real sponsors give a shit about the kid😅 he only made it to finals night cuz of P Rod getting covid. well that and the Cariuma team riders bias.
Dumb data needs to be a coach in the corner like a boxer, whispers the statistically highest chance trick to win lol
Moneyball at BATB
power of numbers
Should be tried out
*Sees Gustavo vs Holt battle is almost 8 minutes, proceeds to get excited*
*Opens video up and sees that Steve Berra is reading the rules*
*Realises game is not as long as initially anticipated*
“for a total of 3 upward hand twists” haha what a keen analysis! Thanks for highlighting the statistical significance of the high frequency of observed hand twists
do not forget the meme use!
if i was competing at BATB i would binge this channel even more
I think Tyler Peterson does
when my hobbies cross over
I think watching this channel to get a competitive edge over an opponent is kinda wack
@@claysoggyfrieso? It’s always best to scout your opponent before a game
@@Km-ot4qf It’s a game of skate bro
Berrics should let Dumb Data provide live commentary and data during finals night!! That would be so fire
Hi Tyler Peterson, I know you’re here studying the numbers. I wish you good luck and may you take the win this year.
Edit: Trying to be nice lol
Thanks but that’s not my name
Thanks man
Chris Joslin is going to be a great match/game, can't wait !!! fuck this shitter up Chris 🤪😇🤪
May LRH be with ya when you lose again
f__k that kid even with Steve making Torey do shitty judging calls on his behalf he STILL lost to Jamie😅
and don't act like u didn't notice it.
if you didn't, go re watch the game before u reply
or else ur gonna look really dumb lol
As an avid comment reader, the data dump pallet cleanser absolutely sent me 💀
edit: fire ender too lmao
Berriuma
“Only skater in recorded history to ever beat jamie griffin in a game of skate” is a HELL of an achievement
What about Alex Decunha though???
It's also, unfortunately, not true. There are videos of him losing several battles, including to Giger and some of his Hop King teammates. He's very good, and when he's on his consistency level on ridiculously hard tricks makes him extremely tough; but he has off days just like anyone else.
I’m predicting Scientology to take the win this year.
My dude did a face reveal at one of his most vulnerable moments, undershooting a front 50 on a flatbar 😭
WAIT A DOUBLE TRIPLE FLIPPIN SECOND was that really footage of DD skating?!? if it was them then thats AWESOME to know the legend is a local around my area lol.
it never ceases to amaze me... the time you put into this stuff... its really impressive..
im not one for cranking out math so its even more compelling.., pretty cool.. definitely a place for it
😂😂Tyler: "win or kill myself" vs Praman: "i don't give a fuck!" subtitle made me laugh hard!
Your videos make stat math fun and relevant in the world of skateboarding which I wouldn’t have ever thought diverged! Congratulations you win, your videos are fun to watch!
converged
these vids are more interesting and entertaining than the batb itself. keep it up!
To be honest I'm not a huge fan of Tyler Peterson's bs nollie 360 kickflip...I don't like when people do "180 land on the wheels and pivot" when doing 360s. These are pros.
no judge will ever call out Berra's golden Cariuma boy on it though. ppl need to use their flags and challenge that d bag every round this year and help stop him
@@eatassonthefirstdate It's not a Cariuma thing, a lot of people have done it. It's not against the rules.
@@professorwolverinebeardsan470 IF YOUR OPPONENT POPS THEIR TRICK ON OFFENSE YOU MUST POP YOUR TRICK ON DEFENSE.
so yeah it kinda is in the rules.
@@eatassonthefirstdate no clue what you’re talking about, who’s not popping? I’m out ✌️
@@eatassonthefirstdatepopping tricks is about takeoff, toe drags for landing. nobody “pops” the landing of a trick. that’s not how words work.
Good job, Over 20k subs. Bet that goes up quite a bit by the end of this year.
lol idk, not sure how big the cross section of skaters and sports analytics enthusiasts is
You know anyone can say whatever they want about this channel, but DD's video never disappoint and always have so many details and fun facts, its just amazing
Alex Decunha also beat Jamie on video too
Back in the day, major crew would have games of skate and nick would demolish. Him and mickey whitehouse
Dumb Data BATB season is back! And better than ever really, because your editing jokes mixed in with your data work are gold! Thank you.
I just found your channel and already think we would be best friends, this is great
bro the last clip of that dude falling on the flat bar is literally a homie who skates at my local, wtf. caught me so off guard. I'm tripping rn. holy shit
maybe dumbdata IS your homie?
You put so much work into these videos that I almost feel bad about it haha
the editing and comedy is as superb as the data, well done
literally waited for this more than the battles themselves ^^
also the ending is hilarious :D
Holy shit I need to see that Berra movie
NUMBER ONE SK8 CZcams CHAMP 🏆
Spencer and Aurelian should be in the battle again. At the end, we don’t know if obvious choices like them just don’t had time. But you are right they should focus on people that are known for being gods at flatground, instead of random choosing a pro
Killing it as always 🔥🔥
Thank you so much for all of the entertainment!
All i know if Jamie Griffin does those shitty back and front 3s without the ref calling it, Im flipping the table
The bracket now looks very neat! I did quite like the chaos of the last one though...
FREEDUCK (sparks up a lighter and waves it with the crowd)
Berras wearing the same exact shirt that Pablo Picasso used to wear all the time. My dude looks like a Spanish painter.
@DumbData when someone misses to get "E" do you count that as two misses or one?
No it’s only one try because sometimes people clutch land their last try and avoid E
@@dumbdata34 yes that would be a different situation in which it would count as one miss and one make? or am i misunderstanding
dumb data is always my favourite notification to get from youtube, even the palate cleansers just make my day
Imagine skunking PJ in a game of skate
ok the ender was great. i usually hate the meme stuff, but that one was good.
Tyler is probably the best flatground guy right now, but he is probably not even going to get to finals night this time given he said he’s filming a part. Funny how priorities change. Love his style though. Great job once again Dumb Data 👏🏾
Another excellent video. I really enjoy the Elo ranking system. It is irritating that we have discrepancies based on lax and inconsistent judging.
0:53 I'm looking forward to the montage clip of 40 skaters saying 'It rhymes this year!' for the next 7 years.
please keep a spreadsheet of upward hand twists from now on too, you wild duck
skateboarding elo score let’s fucking go dd
Love your work man! Jeez you are pumping out the videos! Do not envy your sleep patterns 😅
8:41 dolohin pic ,lmao
The berrics must have a vendetta against Jeff. He is long past due for a chance to compete. I'm bummed every year when they release the bracket and he is excluded.
Ender was tight
Spencer should be in this for sure. Good call.
Bruhhhhhhhhh that bail and Rodney 😂😂
I love your work
One day someone is going to have a brain and realize there is a cash prize....
THEN ! they will come here and read what people land and don't land, and practice those tricks.
There’s actually another video of some skater from the UK beating Jamie that I saw a while ago but I agree that Jeff needs in the bracket. That being said if someone can do any 5 tricks with a 360 body twist in it or an impossible then they may have a shot against him😂
Daaang. This was so good and I hope they learn. Spencer and Jeff would do crazy stuff in future battles. Even though they’re not “core” , the battle coordinators should realize they can make them money.
content getting itchy! niceyyyy (;
It’s going to rhyme for longer that just this year..
More moments of peace in the video please 🙏
From July to November? This is a five month Cariuma commercial
Dumb data on 9 club WHEN?
Never
Damn! 21.5k subs now?! Gettin there bruh!
Griffith lost not only against dechesare but also against Giger and Alex Dachuña (which, as barton, it's a pity he is not invited at batb13). But at the berrics Jamie seems to take it more seriously and to be more focused.
All I will say, Leo will surprise people with his flatground.
Leo who
you mean Levi (Löffelberger)?
"Notoriety" is a bad thing to have. Think about it, the root word is "notorious". So it means "fame for being evil"
Charles Manson had notoriety. Not Tyler Peterson
You must have assumed the root word was "noteworthy". It's a very common mistake
I think you’re imagining that he is broadly liked and admired
Jonny Giger beat Jamie in a pre-game before their BATB12 game, so Instagram's veteran double flip hucker is not the only person to ever beat Jamie in a recorded game of skate.
czcams.com/video/ExfmL7VMV78/video.html&ab_channel=JonnyGiger
Note how Jonny does not perform Nollie doubles or switch doubles in their actual game, where got Griffin three letters on these tricks.
I assume you’re talking about last season. Also, I was at finals night last season and was easily able to notice Chris cole wasn’t really trying that hard against jamie. He realized jamie can’t really do 360s on flat so he just stopped trying 360s. He could have easily beat jamie just by doing different variations of 360s. However I don’t really think jonny threw it like you’re saying.
@@zach3955 I don't think he threw it. He just didn't do the tricks the got Jamie letters in a previous game. I think Jonny isn't super competitive and was just looking for a fun game. Not necessarily going cut throat doing tricks that he knows can get letters..
Edit: Oops yeah sorry... Meant BATB12 not 13. Edited it now.
Alex Decunha beat Jamie as well
Jeff Dechesare beat him too, but with some dodgy ref calls and a completely exhausted Jamie
@zach3955 jamie can do proper 360's if you watch some of the hop king videos, he actually blamed the berrics flatground for being so slippery in one of them LMAO
of course, im not saying this is an excuse to do them improperly, just restating what he said
@dumbdata
what would you consider fundamentals / basics and can it be proven that influencers miss them at a disproportionately higher rate?
Hey DD, Jamie gets beat by Alex DeCunha few times too, HopKing channel
In that recording, Jeff legit did a three shuv impossible, and then started a keyboard battle with some kid in the comments underneath because it got called out. The Jamie v Alex Decunha games are much better.
That rhymes this year
Daddy data
I think the way they set up the bracket is dumb. Why do they have people that both made it to the last finals night going against each other in round one? And there’s a lot of other weird stuff but I’m not tryna type a essay.
The pictures in between calm me down, keep them
10:34 so that’s why Alex hasn’t been seen since. It only makes sense to put Mizurov in these contests
Should be called smart data 🤔👌
I love dumb data
Start live streaming batb!
They do on their CaFfEiNe ApP. Might be wrong tho this year I think it's another platform than previously
She Dumb on my Data till I Nollie FS inward heelflip
the edit is 🤌
Berras the ultimate skate kook - how’s he going to say you’re a dick for using the challenge? Esp after not fixing the referee system and putting random ass dudes as refs. Why implement a rule then say that??
Steve is un-Berra-ble
Winner goes to finals night.
Great vids. Just wondering why you subtract the defensive % from the offensive in the comparison instead of dividing? Ratios?
this is not really the place to come for meaningful statistics (that’s why it’s called dumb data) so I wouldn’t get too hung up on what the stats are named.
for example, trick “difficulty” is half based on offensive success, whereas offensive success just shows people’s own ability to guess their competence at their own pet tricks, which has nothing to do with the trick’s intrinsic difficulty, despite being half of the “difficulty” rating.
so just let him call things what he wants to and, like you did, understand what that each stat is, as designed, unable to actually reveal.
@@frozennorth3426 i wasnt asking you
@@atbta it’s ok. I wasn’t answering :)
@@frozennorth3426 do you have down syndrome?
only skater in recorded history to beat jamie griffin..., well there was at least the guy from es after the berrics finals and i´m pretty sure there´s more than one game of skate online that he lost to his buddy alex decunha... so much about dumb data xD
Where tf can I find your skate clips?
Im a wild duck
Go on!
I swear the finals on caffeine last year wasn't even live
doing a trick you already got a letter on but in fakie as a deathblow is scaredy cat territory. Tyler wanted to be 100% sure that there was no comeback
Spencer barton missing is a shame
Nine Club phone in huh? I'm sure Roberts isn't holding a grudge against D²
So awesome!!!!
nah, but was that really you?
It's crazy that the 3 highest ELO scores are in the same quarter of the bracket (and 2 of them playing first round). And then the 4th highest being in the same half of the bracket! But playing devil's advocate, would we really want to see the same 4 skaters in finals night every year?
it’s bad bracket design, set up to have the best take each other out early, and keep other favored skaters persevering late in the event.
and no, berra’s advocate, your narrative is not the same as food competition.
the brackets are poorly seeded.
sunny suljic?
again?
top notch content
Sure Tyler has the basics of flatground down, but can he apply it to obstacles?
nope.
and That's why no real sponsors give a shit about the kid😅
he only made it to finals night cuz of P Rod getting covid. well that and the Cariuma team riders bias.
@@eatassonthefirstdatehe was already in finals night bruh. Quit being toxic and just enjoy good battles like a well adjusted human being
nobody cares. batb is not an obstacles event.
great man
I did not know but I needed to know all of this
I like eggs
Please go to 9 club! Would be hilarious
How are you calculating your elo ratings?