V6 to V8 Camaro Swap! Had ISSUES installing the V8 engine, what is the SOLUTION?
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Had a few little bumps and issues getting the LM4 V8 installed int he 2002 F-Body Camaro but managed to get it in and get it where it belongs!!!
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Dude you are the F ing man! I have been searching all over the internet trying ot get a pic of what the motor mounts look like for these engines. You would not belive how hard it is. Thanks for taking up through this. Good informative video!!!!
Thanks so much!!! Glad it was helpful!
I'm about to do this swap on my firebird and I love watching stuff like this. Thank you for sharing this with us
No problem!!
Dude, I love your channel. Every time I turn on my phone it seems you have another video out. Unlike having to wait a week or two with the other guys. Keepem comin dude.
Thank you!! I love doing this stuff and sharing what I'm up to and hopefully helping and entertaining along the way!
Damn! I almost choked hearing what you paid for the china tin. Those headers used to be $100 plus shipping but then i realized that was 15 yrs ago lol
yeah... nothing is cheap any more, I remember buying stuff when I was a teenager (early 2000's) for $100 or so and those same parts are $300+ now. Inflation sucks.
Man you make it look so easy… I’m about to do the same thing to a Camaro with trans am donor💪🏾💯💯💯
It only looks easy because I condense hours of work into a short little video, I can't show all the head scratching, cussing, and trying to figure things out, it would be a very long and very boring video.
Interesting, you make it look easy, but I realize there's quite a bit of experience that goes into this swap! It gives me the confidence to do a 3.8 replacement, LOL. Yes, just taking the blown 3.8 out of my wife's (otherwise mint condition) 97 RS and putting a low mileage 3.8 back in it. I'm sure that's considerably easier! She blew out an oil line, ran without oil for about 6 miles of highway, and pulled over when she heard a "clunk" and it started running poorly... Ignoring the flashing warning lights, and the other symptoms prior to the rod snapping in half. I don't really want to put the v8 in it because, frankly, she would just get in trouble with extra ponies, and the 3.8 is available in 25 different cars and should just plug into place. (might have to swap a bunch of accessories, the oil pan and other things of course)
You shouldn't have any trouble just replacing the 3.8. Like you said, maybe swap accessories and oil pan but otherwise it's just pull out the old one and put the new one back in place.
Good work man. I'm about to do the same swap so it is helpful to me. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! Glad to help, hope your swap goes smoothly!
I like you video the best! Tons of others had music like you did. However, yours wasn't obnoxious. Yes very informative! except is it a 4.8? 5.3! 6.0! 6.2? what ever it is thanks for the information. Great job! ps looked cold in the garage. Propane heaters talk to the shop gods..
Thank you! It's an LM4 5.3 engine from the junkyard. I'm pretty hearty so although it was chilly, not cold enough to fire up the woodstove yet.
The engine is gonna be offset with more room in the driver side because of the room needed for the steering column
yes correct, I did have the engine mounts switched though which had the engine offset too far to the passenger side, the passenger header wouldn't fit. After I switched them it was still offset to the passenger side, but not as far. Both headers fit and the steering shaft cleared.
Slowly gaining the confidence to try this myself
Heck yeah. It can be done!
I’m doing a v6 to v8 swap on my 2012 Ls this weekend 😅. Wish me luck bro I can’t wait for it to be finished
@@nft200yearsago8 most definitely let me know how it goes all the issue or problems you run into I'm still looking at engine/transmission options
good luck!
got a link for that k member
Dozens to choose from. Can't remember exactly which one it was
www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResultsPageCmd?q=camaro+ls+k+member&storeId=10001&catalogId=10002&langId=-1
Is there a reason you bought a new k member? You just wanted new parts or is it different going from v6 to v8 love the vids very informational
The v6 and v8 k-members are different, you eithe rneed to swap the k-member, or they do make adapter kits also to make your v6 k member work with a v8. Thanks a lot for the support and for watching!
Hey bro what engine did you put in
An aluminum block 5.3 LM4 out of a 2004 GMC Envoy
Hey man. I’m about to do the exact same thing to a 02 firebird originally a 3.8 but I’m going to drop a 5.3 in it. Ik it’s been a couple years ago but you wouldn’t know like the part number or anything to that k member you got. I’m trying to find one for mine but not having the best of luck and did the engine mounts come with that k member or was it separately.
I don't remember the part number of the k-member, but I do remember it is a BMR Suspension part and I remember BMR had like 15 different versions depending on what you want to do. The one I used came with the engine mounts.
I'm pretty sure I put a link to the exact one I used on the video description for one of the videos on this swap.
@@MohawkMotors ok man I thank you and I’ll have to go back and check for it and see. And by the way keep up with the great vidoes I love watching them
Where did you get the LS! crate engine for this build? I have been looking EVERYWHERE for a listing, and I can't find a thing.
I got this one out of my local LKQ pull it yourself junk yard. I also part out GMT 800 trucks and GMT 360 SUV's so I have a pretty much unlimited resource of Ls engines. Try searching for 99 to 06 gm fullsize trucks and suv's that are being partedout or sold for parts.
So you used the old steering rack and shaft? I’m about to do this swap and had been told you have to swap them to ones from a V8 car.
Yes I used the V6 rack and steering shaft. Here's the deal, the V8 rack and shaft are different from the V6 rack and shaft so if you're going to use a factory k member, you'll have to get a V8 rack and shaft as well. But they make aftermarket k-members for Ls V8 that use the V6 rack and shaft. So if you're going with an aftermarket k-member, you can keep your V6 rack and shaft, just make sure you order the right k member.
I know this is an older video, so I appreciate the response. Looks like I’ll be watching all this videos when I get into doing my sons car. Thanks!
No problem! Good luck!
Hey buddy just wondering if you Possibly have a part number for that K member from BMR? I'm trying to get me 14 my 95 Camaro that I'm putting a 6.0 LS in it And cannot seem to find the right k member so if you possibly have a part number that would be extremely helpful
Hey man I looked back through everything I had from this project but I don't have the part number from the K member, I thought for sure I showed it at some point in the series but I don't have time to go through and rewatch the videos. If you haven't already, check through the first 3 or 4 videos in the teen dream playlist, I thought for sure I showed the box and part number in one of them.
@@MohawkMotors ok. Thanks buddy. I will watch the rest of the series and see if I can spot it on a video. Thanks for the response
no problem, sorry I don't have it in a more convenient place, I try to get all my part numbers and stuff in my descriptions now.
Awesome video..I have a 97 lt1 t56 car that I'm ls swapping.Im installing a 6.0 with the holley term8nator x . Question is ..how do I use my factory gauges?
You'll have to integrate/piggyback them to the terminator. I honestly haven't done it so I'm not 100% sure how to do it.
You never re use any gaskets. I bought a full gasket rebuild kit for the 5.3 Brand name is Big 3 Gaskets bought it off ebay for 130 bucks. Well worth it when rebuilding and installing a LS or any engine at that.
I re use gaskets that are intended to be re used all the time, haven't had any issues so far. I figure if an engineer with far more education and material knowledge than me designed something to be re used, it's probably safe to re use it. I'd rather spend the $130 on an ebay turbo than gaskets that don't need to be replaced. From time to time I do come across leaking or damaged gaskets and those I do replace, but if it ain't broke, I don't fix it.
@@MohawkMotors what kinda dolly did you use? A plastic wheel dolly for car tires so you can move a car around with? Bout to drop this 3.8 out of my 98 Firebird to swap over my 5.3. But I dont want to wiggle the assembly out. Would rather just slide it out.
@@goa699 I just used a cheap harbor freight dolly but i'm sure a car dolly would work
@@MohawkMotors awesome thanks man. Btw im not sure if you have the LS1 intake but if you do you will have to buy a C5 corvette fuel Regulator because the LS1 intake and fuel rails is returnless fuel system. You need Fbody, alternator, Fbody water pump, Power steering pump relocation bracket you can use the truck steering pump, alternator relocation bracket, and Fbody oil pan also you have to trim the 5.3 windage tray for your oil pick up tube to clear. Im sure you have all that. Also if you can get a 5.3 Ecu with vats turned off you should not have any problems keeping it running or starting it up. I bought a Ecu from Ebay for DBC, with Vats delete, rear o2 sensor delete. Speedometer delete, and no torque management. I will have to be careful not to red line my rpms.
Yeah I wound up going with an ls1 intake but ran aftermarket fuel rails and regulator to have a return style system. Do my own tuning on the ECM using HP tuners and got that all sorted out. Got all the F-body brackets and accessories from rock auto. It's really close to driveable, I basically just need to build exhaust for it now.
Is the lm4 V8 you're installing better than the LS1 V8? Where did you get your engine from? How much did engine and transmission cost?
No the LM4 isn't any better than an LS1, they are substantially less expensive though. I got mine from the LKQ Pull Your Part near me for $400. The transmission I bought used on facebook marketplace for about $900 if I remember correctly. The engine came complete with accessories, harness, intake, computer and everything. The transmission was just the transmission, no clutch or anything with it.
I have a 2000 v6 Camaro looking to do a swap for a v8 which set up and what should I do
There are literally thousands of options. I would start with what are your goals for the car? What do you want to do with it?
The k member you got, did it come straight from BMR and can I get the link too it? Also, what kinda oil pan are you using?
The k-member I used is a BMR K-Member, but I ordered it from Jegs, they were the only place that had them in stock at the time. This is the exact k-member I used www.jegs.com/i/BMR-Suspension/142/KM013H/10002/-1 but there are several different versions, different engine mount styles and different steering rack mounting styles. I'm using an F-body ls1 oil pan, I ordered the pan with new pick up tube and gasket on amazon.
Hi boss. Can I switch from six cylinder to v8 6.2 engine And put it on camera 21
yeah, as long as you have the computer and harness to run it absolutely
Another good video
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!!!
I want to swap a 4.8 or 5.3 into a 96 RS camaro what can you recommend I need to make it fit and would the same K member you are using work on mine, thanks in advance
based on my experience and what you're trying to do, I would try to get a 99 or 2000 4.8 or 5.3 to swap into it, it will have the fewest differences in electronics but still will not be completely compatible. Since there was no Ls option in 96 it'll probably be easiest to do some kind of stand alone engine management, either with a factory computer or something like Holley, and adapt the original gauge sending units to the new engine. It should be too difficult to get the oil pressure, coolant temp, and voltage to work, but tach may be tricky.
Yes the k-member I used will work for you as well.
@@MohawkMotors Oh alright cool thank you for the advice, I'll try to comeback here with updates
no problem!! Looking forward to hearing about your progress!
I have a 2013 rs Camaro, which ls swaps can I use and do I need a 2013 wiring harness since my Camaro a 2013?
the 5th gen camaro is a much different animal, you'll need and engine and transmission, harness, and pcm from a 2010 to 2013 camaro to swap it. You'll also need hptuners or a similar software/programmer to remove all the security features and reprogram the TCM. There's probably more you'll need as well but I haven't done one so I don't know all the intricate differences. I do know that GM dramatically increased the complexity of their hardware and software in 2010 and newer vehicles which makes them much more complex to swap.
Can u drop a parts list needed for the swap please
V8 k member or motor mount adapters, v8 transmission crossmember, harness and computer from original ls1 car, engine
Hey do you know what model k member that is? Because I’ve got a v8 to swap into my 97 Camaro but I can’t seem to find a k member that will work
BMR makes a few different k-members for the f-body. Which one you need will depend on exactly how you're doing your swap. I would recommend just giving their tech support line a call and chatting with them directly.
@@MohawkMotors thanks I’ll look into it
I’m trying to put a V8 in a 4cy Camaro myself
Awesome! Hope it goes smoothly!
Do i initially need the k member to ls swap my v6
you either need a V8 k-member or v6 to v8 motor mount adapters
I want to swap a 4.8 or 5.3 in my 3.4 v6 Camaro what would you recommend or any advice?
Either is a great option. My advice, try to find one you can see and hear run, that way you'll know it's a good runner and won't need to do anything to it besides upgrades if you choose. And find yourself a complete wire harness and computer from as close a year as possible. I believe the 3.4 was pre-98, so I would try to find a wire harness and computer from a 98 camaro or firebird that came with the same transmission (automatic or manual) and an LS to make the wiring as close to plug and play as possible.
I wanted to do this to my 3rd gen v6 to LS v8. I’m guessing it can be done?
yeah absolutely, lots of people have done it
Thanks man. New sub here
@@MohawkMotors what engine/trans set up do you recommend for my 3rd gen v6
I would go with a drive by cable gen 3 engine for simplicity sake. A 99 to 02 LM7 from a pickup or suv would work and are plentiful. Could also get a 99 to 02 LQ4 from a pickup and would be equally simple. They're both drive by cable in the 99 to 02 vehicles and motor mount adapters are readly available. They're also much simpler electronically then the drive by wire and gen 4 engines.
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Thank you!
This is awesome
Thanks!
How did you get a free engine
I get them all the time, buy someones "junk" vehicle that runs good but doesn't drive, sell all the parts you don't need, and keep the engine. I find tahoes, suburbans, rusted out pickups, etc on facebook marketplace all the time for under $1000. Between the catalytic converters, a few other good parts and pieces, and scrapping the leftovers it's easy to get your money back and then some.
Do i need a new k member for the swap?
You need either motor mount adapters or a V8 k-member
@@MohawkMotors do you think ls1 swap is easier than others ls's? For the fourth gen camaro
It's more about the harness and accessories. The engines themselves are dimensionally the same, LS1, LM7, LQ4, L33, L59, LQ9 are all Gen 3 LS engines, they use the same crank and cam position sensors, the motor mount bolts, bellhousing bolts, accessory bolts, are all the same so it really won't matter which one you pick. The main differences will be the f body accessories, and the intake manifold, if you can find an f-body LS1 with the accessories and intake still on it that will bolt right in, if you can only get truck engines they will bolt right in also, you'll just need to get a shorter intake manifold to clear the hood and f-body accessories to clear the radiator.
Are those solid mounts?
No, they have urethane bushings at the bottom that sandwich the k member. About as close as you can get to solid but still have a bushing.
Can i get the link to the k members
this is the one I used, but there are TONS of different variations. www.jegs.com/i/BMR-Suspension/142/KM019R/10002/-1
Hey I’m actually in the process of putting a lq4/4l80 in my 98. Did you use the rack and pinion from the v6 cradle?
Hey, yes I did! The K-Member I ordered uses all the factory steering components. Steering rack and pinion, steering shaft, and everything else! It's a BMR K-member, part number KM019H
@@MohawkMotors thanks a lot for the quick response knowing that just saved me a little cash.
Absolutely! Glad to help!
Great work. Should i sell my240LS for camaro z28 or ss?
Well it's totally your decision, I would love to have an Ls swapped 240, depending on what you're trying to do with it will dictate which is your better option. The 240 is a lighter, more compact platform than a camaro with a ton of aftermarket support so unless you just really prefer the looks of the camaro or want more interior space there aren't many advantages to it.
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Jason are or were you a dealership mechanic 🧑🏼🔧 you seem to know an awful lot about the newer car’s. Just wondering.
I did work at a dealership for about 6 months but got bored, too much of the same thing over and over. A lot of my knowledge came from tech school, I spent 18 months at Wyotech and took everything they offered except the collision and refinishing (don't have the patience for body work). Outside of that I just love to experiment and learn, automotive tech has always been a passion of mine and it just clicks in my brain. I can learn this stuff VERY fast.
@@MohawkMotors Thank you for your reply.
Hey I love your channel👍 can u swap my V6 to a v8?
Thank you so much, thank you for watching! I can give you a quote and we can go from there. Where are you located? What year and cuurent drivetrain does your car have? What do you want to swap into it?