G-Fighter Development History
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▶Intro:
This Ain't The End Of Me by White Comic
▶Outro:
8-bitified version of Believe
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All footage and pictures used under Fair Use
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00:00 RX-78-2 Gundam
01:29 G-Fighter Part 1
04:11 G-Armor
05:38 G-Bull & G-Sky
06:45 G-Bull Easy & G-Sky Easy
07:59 RX-78-2 Gundam + B-Parts
08:41 G-Fighter Part 2
09:41 Did the G-Fighter Even Exist?
12:31 G-Fighter Bomber Type
13:54 G-Fighter Space Type
15:02 G-Fight Assault Landing Type
16:23 G-Fighter II
17:15 General Purpose G-Fighter
18:18 RX-G132 Super G-Armor
19:35 Prototype G-Fighter
21:15 Outro
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Kakarot’s Notes:
- For the G-Fighter Bomber Type, Space Type and Assault Landing Type, MSV-R has their Height listed as 17m, 17.5m, and 21.4m respectively (which is why you will also find this on fansites). However, this should’ve been their length. (For example, also in MSV-R, the Nelson-class, a modified Salamis, is listed as having a height of 228m. And the Salamis only has a height of only 61.3m, but a length of 228m, a perfect match)
- In one episode, Sayla says that she’s launching in the G-Bull Easy, but she’s actually using the G-Bull.
- Sometimes it's also said that 3 G-Fighters were delivered to the White Base. This is taken as 2 complete G-Fighters, and 1 complete unit worth of spare parts.
I heard that the toy developers forced the G-Fighter upon the show. But Tomino hated the concept and replaced it with the Core Booster in the movie remakes.
"For a brick it flew pretty good" - Sgt. Johnson.
what about the G falcon in think that should have been included
The G-Fighter might be best to exist…
AS a Gunpla battling other Gunpla in the world of Gundam Build Metaverse X._
@@mjuneoginn exactly
Everything about the G-Fighter just screams "If we don't spend more money, our military budget is getting cut. Quick, make the biggest, dumbest, over-engineered thing we can rationalize and ship it." At the very least, looking at it that way makes me love the thing.
Can't have sht with Feddie taxes😅
That explains why everything in the TITANS test team looks very expensive...
@@PorktatoesSSRB Feds, after losing a NUKE and a bunch of MS and ships due to said NUKE: We're gonna fix this within the budget now.
Also Feds with the TTT: Blank check.
@jaderabbit898 also also feddies: hmm this unicorn thing, what does it do tho anyway? Also y da fak OUR Phenix is killing our crew!?
@@m4albino201 The Feds make a lot of choices. Smart isn't one of them.
I’d like to imagine that the first show is the canon way where with the various applications the G-Fighter had, they were improved upon to make Base Jabbers and the G-Defenser. The concept of the Gundam combining with the G-Fighter to fly would then evolve to mobile suits with flight transformations.
exactly, it fits more in line, specially since later, we do see stuff like the ex-s deep striker which is basically the ex-s with its own core b-parts.
sue, it looks like a giant toy, but so what? the rx-78 does as well, and so does 90% of the crap from zeon.
I believe it exist. its part of the weirdness of the 1 year war.The age of the super prototypes had to make some duds afer all.
Dont tell me the g figther couldnt exist in a place where big zam and other weird ass ma units exist that are just as weird.
Ah yes, the G-S.N.A.F.U. The weapon system made exclusively for service in the toy store theater of operations.
Ah yes, the G-SNAFU, stands for G-Stopgap Non-functional Armaments Full of Uselessness.
The G-Fighter/G-Armor is such a beautifully 1970s piece of design. It just screams "Yes, I also made Daitarn 3 and Zambot 3 and Popy is breathing down my neck for more toy concepts."
I think the real issue I have with the G-Fighter is it was clearly forced on to the production of the Mobile Suit Gundam anime. There are quite a few scenes with Amuro and Sayla either training with the G-Fighter equipment or being made to bring it out into active battle which felt aggressively like filler to pad out an episode. I think it falls into the area of the Zock of Zakrello where you could salvage it with a few design changes, but I'm not going to begrudge it being replaced with the Core Booster. The Core Booster is cool.
According to Gundam Sousei manga, it is. G-Fighter was introduced after Gundam's rating hit rock bottom. Tomino need to added some cool toys in order to keep the show afloat.
@@KuruniXDThat's pretty believable ngl, especially since the original gundam series was cut short from what the original episode count was supposed to be
9:49 Although my memories of the One Year War are a bit hazy, I distinctly remember seeing the G-Fighter on more than one occasion.
meanwhile Yoshiyuki Tomino's reaction to the G-Fighter is "BEGONE TOY GIMMICK ABOMINATION FORCED TO US BY THAT DAMN SPONSOR CLOVER".
Clover: ADD MORE GIMMICKS
The G-armor was further simplified into the G-Defenser for the MK2. Turning the combined into the Super Gundam. By that time it already got redesigned into Zeta. Then ZZ comes full circle looking like a blocky G-armor with legs and arms.
Okay, this is just me spitballing and it would certainly require some modifications, but if I was on the White Base I'd actually suggest having the G-Fighter link up to the Guntank instead. It doesn't provide much to the superbly powerful and agile Gundam, but by giving the Guntank improved speed and flight capabilities, you could deploy it better in space or rough terrain, while giving it an even wider range of attack. Mainly thinking about this in the context of a Guntank Sky/Guntank + B-Parts, but I'm sure other configurations could have their merits
I am pretty sure Hayato have move on to using another Guncannon by the time Amuro came up with the idea of using Gundam upper-half and use the B-part as makeshift booster to combat Zeon's MA. Another point of Guntank is that, it actually have 2 pilots. One in the Core Block, and another on clear cockpit on the top, like a tank. The idea have some merit in the sense that, you can use Hayato's Core Block instead of Amuro's Core Block when deployment of Guntank is infeasible.... but that does not use any of the Guntank either, and it just become normal G-Armor/Fighter/Sky by then.
I used to play Gihren's Greed. In there, you can mass produce anything, including Gundams. So when I needed jets late in the OYW, I deployed a bunch of G-Armors instead of having to lose an army of Saberfish and Tin Cods who can get go down with one shot.
And then ditch them mid-combat or during preparation when I wanted my Gundams back (although there's already a bunch of other Gundams deployed all over the world even with the G-Armors around)
if people watched Double Zeta before watching 0079, they might think the G-armor inspired the Double Zeta Fortress mode.
2 shields, it had an extra Core fighter, it had 2 beam cannons. and later on, it can fire micro missiles from the Bottom parts/Double Zeta backpack.
maybe its tomino's side project..."i need a unique fighter"
honorable mention to the ZZ Gundams G Fortress mode for being a homage and may or may not have been referenced in development. There actually was a version of the ZZ dedicated to fortress mode as a bomber if i remember correctly, paralleling the bomber type g fighter
I prefer the G-Figter as it’s more of a special unit for Salyla to use as well as it’s just more survivable the a fighter with a big surface area to attack. It’s also important in the ZZ development and it’s no less strange to other MA in the OYW.
Bandai seam to flip flop as despite the movies removing it, it has returned in games and retellings.
i think if records say that their where 2 G-armors or 2 core boosters, then we can just say their was one of each to fix the problem. Both have been seen together in other media anyway
Glad to see that the federation wanted to add things to mobile suits that clearly didn't need them or were pointless... Re-GZ *cough cough*
Which made it into the video as a good bad example lol
the Re-GZ was supposed to be cheap MP Zeta but somehow the Re-GZ was too expensive 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ironic since in my opinion the GZ looked like an expensive and somehow unnecessary stopgap suit in my opinion.
This has been my favorite series! I'm glad Kakarot has made another episode.
Using the word "thing" to describe this...creation encapsulates just how weird it fit or didn't fit into the Federation's planning - or lack of planning. Or maybe it was Tomino wanting a bigger aircraft in the show that was monstrous and unwieldy.
Yes! I love the G fighters and Mobile Armors, they are all so unique and interesting. Great work as always and thank you for making me a Gundam fan again! And happy thanksgiving everyone.
Can't wait for Zeta Gundam and ZZ Gundam development history!
I'd personally say the G-Fighter existed, and subflight systems like the Base Jabber were developed from it, but mainly focusing on their ability to act as mobile platforms and transports for a Mobile Suit or two.
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The core fighter...which is small enough to be inside of the Gundam...is also twice the size of that same Gundam.
I love MSG quality screencaps.
Head canon wise, WB got the G units around Operation Odessa to test out, while after Jaburo they swap out for Core boosters.
The core booster development was to recycle the obsolete core block system of Project V.
The G unit seems like left over units to compensate as a stop gap for battle strength hence the variants and usage by other military teams.
Thanks so much for all this lore! About two weeks ago, I purchased the HGUC G-Armor/Fighter/etc. locally and am excited to build it! Especially because it comes with an unique, "old" RX-78-2. :) I like all the goofiness involved in the different modes, even if some made little sense.
(Camp core booster-more fun that way.) ;)
Babe wake up, Kakarot197 posted a new Development History
For me, I say the G-fighter existed, much like the rest of the stuff on white base it was a part of project V. The booster was a refinement of purpose (end eventually developed into SFS) with the rest of the variants largely being "we have these almost finished frames but looks like the Gundam and its support equipment won't be the actual standard. May as well make lemonade." As for the Spec Ops variation, that makes some sense as those guys like their high-speed insertion tools.
Fantastic video and head cannon theory.
I for one can’t wait for your next Gundam what if; especially the next part of What if Amaro got the Alex.
Oh my god the halberd in the old clover toy was turned into the unicorns beam javalin that is so cool
I liked the way the G-Fighter facilitated dialogue scenes between Amuro and Sayla (since Amuro would be piloting the Gundam while Sayla piloted the G-Fighter.) Not sure how they handled those scenes in the compilations (I've only seen the series.) As an overall design, though, it's not great.
The G-Fighter was removed from the compilation movies of MSG. Any scenes that they were kept, were replaced with the Core Booster. So there was significantly less dialogue between Amuro and Sayla.
The G-Fighter as it appeared in the Anime totally existed. Like most of the things on White Base, it was a rushed prototype that tried to do too many things at once. The modularity meant that units could use the parts they needed most. If the 08th team had received the G-Parts, the tank portion would have gotten a LOT more use. The simple ability to retract the treads would make way more sense, but if they'd had time for that they could also have spent time getting the G-Parts to work with the Guncannon and Guntank, for some really wacky, but effective combos.
As for it's top speed, there's a saying that with enough thrust, anything will fly. If you can accept that the 60 ton Gundam can jump high enough to chase rockets and leap up onto Gau's in flight, then it, combined with the additional power of the G-Parts can hit Mach 3+.
The XB-70 Valkyrie Bomber weighs 240 tons (Metric) and could exceed Mach 3, so it's not at all impossible, even with the drag of tank treads for the G-Parts to do the same with tech that is at least a century newer.
As for the Core Booster, tat I see as an adaptation of tech that was developed for the Saberfish fighter for space use that they realized could also work as a support unit for a mobile suit with very few modifications. The reduction in firepower vs the G-Fighter though, seems like a tradeoff that Amuro and the WB crew would not make except for the few instances where speed was more important. Having both present on WB however does offer maximum flexibility, so for me, they were both there, but the Core Booster was added at Jaburo for use in space.
Amuro's field change to make the shields stack was actually brilliant. He'd recently encountered the Doms, which broke one shield, so he needed better defense anyway. Stacked shields was quick and effective.
"A suprise to be sure but a welcome one."
I take it this is partially influenced/inspired by the Robot Romance Trilogy series (Combattler V, Voltes V, and Daimos)...
Those did pre-date the original Mobile Suit Gundam series...
Or most likely Daitarn 3
It flys pretty good for a brick… lol I love the g-fighter and now I kind of wanna get another HG and mod it
Love these; I look forward to your development history videos just as much if not more than I do your Gundam news
Yeah, some of these stuff was clearly left over from super robot genre. Especially that shield nonsense.
I remember having the MSIA of this and the RX-78 as a kid. I liked Transformers as well so it was cool to have a transforming Gundam that could split into the Sky and Bull modes. So many little pieces, though.
Loved every second of this video
Love these technical deep dives on lore!
G-Fighter was another prototype. That had a number of various that was a waste of money and materials that could be used for something else.
This is such a wierd excuse to sell toys
To be fair, it was a 70's anime series where mecha anime particularly Super Robots were getting incredibly popular.
Even though Gundam is a Real Robot show and the first of its kind even, the execs wanted something close to a Super Robot for the kids so yeah....
Yeah baby!
Can't wait for your Full Arnor Development History video (hopefully you also include the Full Armor versions from Unicorn and Thunderbolt).
The best part of Full Armor project is that it never actually left the ground and the universe was spared from abominations it produced.
Nice video, I love these development history videos. Can you make one on the GMs
A 30 man APC that gets yeeted out of an aircraft is a coffin for 30 brothers.
16:50 Nina is thinking "Where is Gato and his nuke when you need him?"
The G-Fighter, Voltes V-looking as it is, just have to be shelved before the White Base left for space and switch them to Core Boosters. Don't ask, I mean, Tomino made Voltes, then Clover did the rest.
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The Core Booster makes more sense, but the G-Fighter is just cooler to look at....until it docks with the Gundam and starts to be silly XD
But the sight of the Gundam riding on top of the G-Fighter is just too damn cool.
"Alright folks, let's build the best add on parts to the Gundam to improve it's capabilities. What do you mean our budget was cut?"
Imagine Móbile suit built with Both Gundam or any mobile suit and G fighter so there’s no dificulty
12:20 I think they remained at Jaburo. In MS Igloo where we follow the Zeon drop squads trying to attack battleships that were being launched into orbit before the events of the actual attack by Char's group, there was an instance where a Z'Gok on a booster setup was moving to be picked up by a carrier before Core Fighters with G-Fighter mounted boosters ambush the transport, shooting it down and clipping the Z'Gok's booster and had the Z'Gok propel itself into a lake where the pilot would meet his end
perhaps the G-Full was a mistranslation of the G-Bull?(front unit part) housing a MS in it made no sense other than as a super robot type story anime
the G-fighter/armor was replaced in the movie version, just like the Guntank in space LOL
My MSIA Gundam + G-Fighter from when I was young makes me a believer. Heff the Core Booster.
Gundams were like "yo G I need a fighter" and the Feds hooked them up.
Honestly, I don't see why people hate on the g fighter. It's more useful and more powerful than the corebooster. And it might be because I heavily prefer the anime over the compilation movies but even still, I still think it's better. I mean, i'd much rather have beam cannons and a plethora of missiles, then beam cannons and a few machine guns that don't really do very much damage. And being able to dock with the gundam means it can make independent sorties in areas far from its home base. It was literally designed to be a support fighter and a base jabber in one.
I'm in camp Core Booster, though I do like your new headcanon with the G-Fighter being developed alongsider the Guntank, Guncannon, and Gundam.
...Though at the same time, I ALSO think that the G-Fighter CONCEPT led to the development of things like the G-Defensor from Zeta (that thing that linked with the Mk-II to form the Super Gundam).
G-fighter also lead to the ZZ gundam as well I believe.
17:30 I'm struck by how much it looks like the Skygrasper
18:19 WHAT IN THE SILPHEED FUCK LMAO
Dude the Prototype G Fighter sounds amazing Why the EDF didn't keep it like that I may never know.
I can't remember where I read this as it was 10+ years ago, but the G-fighter was coined in order for Bandai to make more toys and to have the Gundam appear to be more "super robot." Personality, I'm a Core Booster kind of person.
Yknow, now that im thinkin bout it, the G-Fighter is basically the AeroGavin of the Gundam universe
personally I think the g-figther does exist I mean these variant's didnt just pop up out of no where but the issues it had proably meant it wasn't exactly the best support it was meant for leading to the variants and the core booster so did it exist yes but praobly was used for data and proably left for scrap after said variants and core booster were made
I love the G-Fighter/G-Armor, it’s very 1970s.
We'll make a serious drama about war...
Also, combining mecha and jets!
I'd like to always comically think about how the caterpillar threads were originally designed during the "speed racer" era of nonsense (in a good way) to sell toys that somewhere down the line they realized how ridiculous these things were that they slowly develop a lore around it to get the whole thing to fit into the whole gundam universe of weapons development.
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I quite like the prototype G Fighter. A lot of established lore mentions the federations MS pilots were pulled from their pool of fighter pilots. I can absolutely see the brass attempting to take the proven power of the prototype MS and apply it to the proven, and familiar to grunts, plane form factor. My headcanon has it as a failed experiment, as we see MS combat dominating the future of warfare.
I also use MS Igloo as "proof" that there was active propaganda and disinformation campaigns actively being waged during the OYW. Any appearance of a weapon, such as the G-Parts, can be attributed to enemy rumors being coopted and used for disinformation by Federation forces. After all, combat testimonies would be hazy with so few survivors from the Gundam's sorties and it's increasing cult-like reputation.
ITS ABOUT DAMN TIME
G fighter appeared in handheld game for gundam and Giren's ambition. Original animation series too.
Hey Kakarot, I think next video you should discuss about RX-81 G Line development please
Great video, its fun to see all the different anime scenes from various gundam media for the 1 year war and zeta gundam.
Haha journey to jaburo, still puttin in work.
I always liked the name /design of the core booster better, but hey the g fighter would be reincarnated through the shining finger of domon kashu.
Ya know I can see the G fighter being a thing, because it is very in character for the Federation to make a jet thing that docks with a mobile suit in order to make it transform... it's basically the same mindset that brought up the Re-GZ's back weapons system... which i think is where the federation would have went with the concept after they made the core booster...
Basically my headcannon is the same as yours but add on that the concept was later used to make the back weapons system of the Re-GZ which would also explain why they thought that failure of a transformation was a good idea, it worked before so why not do so again?
it's a solid idea, a high speed transport that could deploy the mobile suit then act as a support unit, but boy is that a pure silly super robot execution.
The Prototype looks cool.
Your theory is basically what my Headcanon has been since learning about it being removed from Canon by the movies.
Also, another headcanon that I 100% believe: the man at Anaheim Electronics who insisted on the ZZ have a Transformation into a mode somewhat resembling the G-Armor and having a core block system, to the point of it risking the structural integrity of the ZZ, was the same man from Zeonic who designed the Gouf Combined Test Type and has nostalgia for the "Cool Combinations" the Federation used to make.
I'm trying to convince myself that the 3.5 wasn't its speed, but its drag coefficient.
We need it to be 100% cannon and also in the Movie, near the end of the 3rd movie, as Sayla is going to find Amuro and Char, you can see the G-Fighter in the background. So it is cannon and it may have been mistaken as the White Base G-Fighter due to how close it was to the White Base itself and also may have had the WB insignia that was never changed as it may have been a last minute change of hands and thus mistaken to be part of the WB Crew after the war ends when they are seeing the damages. This means that at one point the G-Fighter may have been in the White Base but never used due to the lack of a Manual and then transferred over to another unit later once they reached space to a different unit before the Battle of A Boua Qu, so both versions do exist and is part of the cannon which means that the Core Booster is a different take on the G-Fighter concept and finished later than the G-Fighter itself and thus put in limited numbers to aid those who are skilled more often than not, White Base getting it maybe General Reval playing favorites and giving them the best gear for the time.
I'd imagine that the White Base getting core fighters would probably be less playing favorites, and more the Federation leadership just sending over whatever was new because the White Base was basically one of their beta test teams.
@@magnatcleo2043 it was honestly a mix bag for what White Base was After General Revan died, it then became a Beeta Test Team until The Battle of Solomen. Which is where Revel had died. Revel himself may have been playing favorites for White Base and not tell anyone about it under the gize of them being their best shot for winning the war and a great distraction, so why not send them all the new and best gear to make Zeon waste a lot more on this ship and less on the other fronts. Play into the Propaganda a bit for the WB Crew.
My favorite parts of Gundam are these toyetic nonsense machines that have barely coherent explanations. They're so good. So much more fun than the stuff that's toned down to almost be kind of plausible if you squint. It's never gonna be plausible. Let's just have fun!
Like, there is no world in which any of this makes ANY logistical sense, but it's undeniably such a cool concept. Gundam needs more of this wacky creativity.
I had the toy of this when I was little (still have bits and pieces in a storage box) it was fairly cool to play with cause it did come with the Gundam so it could be built right out of the box
edit: they literally strapped rockets onto an M113 ...... they made the GAVIN decades before sparks
Core booster sure gets some love. Especially since we see it has been mass produced in 08th MS Team series.
21:20 I think for a brick, it flew pretty good
They were this close to a mega particle tank with anti-MS grade turret responsiveness!
the idea behind the ZZ Gundam was to reproduce the operating functions of the RX-78-2 Gundam and the G-Armor in a single machine, hence we have the G-Fortress mode of the ZZ
So yeah, I'm going to the G-Armor camp, because admittedly without the G-Armor we wouldn't have the ZZ Gundam
I wonder if a pair of Lotos can fit in the bay of a space G fighter. Would have been cool to see them deployed with a G fighter in Unicorn.
I freaking love the G-Fighter. Its like trying to cram super robot tropes into a real robot show.
And THIS is what Tomino thought was more realistic than the Guntank?! True Story by the way.
This flying brick exist. And it is a badass mobile weapon and partner for the Gundam.
ooooh, nice choice for a video!
by the way Kakarot do you have any idea what's up with AoZ illustration releases on dengeki hobby? they've been pretty consistent for most of the year but now we've gone over a month without any. Just wondering if there's any info, and since Fujioka had serious health issues before i'm kinda worried for him
For a brick, it flew pretty good.
Buy why there was no mention of g defenser from Zeta anywhere in the video? I always thought he was a kind of successor to the g armor line
The whole concept of tank treads on a fighter jet/bomber was so stupid to me, so I'm going with the "It truly didn't exist" theory.
If you have something like the G Fighter and it tried to land like a normal plane, the treads would break apart. Even if it landed like a Harrier jet, I feel like the threads would likely slip off their tracks or something.
I will say though...
The part about how the Gundam was later able to have two overlapping shields was pure "genius." Especially with how forced it was to make the G Fighter fit into the show. I especially loved the animation where the shield overlapped the other one, and just vanished.
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Hey Kakarot are you aware of of gaiaguys and his break down of the radio drama version of Gaia gear cause I wonder what's you opinion on it and the man machines that for a time replaced the mobile suits?
there was definitely corruption going on developing this monstrosity behind the scenes lol
What I love about the G-Fighter is that, in a world of realistic robots, this mannages to look the most toy-ish arround.
for a brick, it flew pretty good
Mach 3.5 in atmosphere with THOSE aerodynamics!?
What really annoys me about how the G-Fighter actually got used by the Gundam was that if it really was designed to be a sub-flight system, then it was never really used that way in atmosphere, like the Dodais with the Zakus. If they had just designed it around that, and maybe even produced a few for the Gundam Ground Types, that would have been more useful than the G-Armor combination/transformation.
LET'S. VOLT. IN!.
I’m wondering where do those more modern cleaner animations come from eg 4:47
Just have the g-fighter as a delivery/drop system / support vehicle concept prototype that was shelved due to pilot safety and maintenance, and like had its data rolled back into the core fighter’s development and the non-gattai units. The Sp forces version could just be elongated with retractable armor and increased fuel capacity and thruster output. As for thruster output: um, why is Paptimus so young in Z Gundam? 0079 totes has some ftl stuff, so that output is probably doable
I love the g fligter ot was to me like the mobile armor version of a federation of the mobile armor