ASUS Chromebook Flip C302 Review - Core M3 12.5-Inch Touchscreen 2-in-1 C302CA-DHM4
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VIDEO INDEX:
00:52 - Hardware overview
02:19 - Battery life
02:34 - Keyboard and trackpad
03:15 - Chromebooks and the new mid-tier market for them
04:16 - Performance: CZcams and video streaming
05:17 - Performance: Web browsing
06:04 - Android apps
06:45 - Android app: MAME emulation (Street Fighter Alpha 3)
07:04 - Android: Skyforce Reloaded
07:32 - Android: Kodi
08:47 - Conclusion and final thoughts
Overall this is a decent Chromebook from Asus. It performs exceptionally well for the price point sporting a fanless Core M3 skylake processor. It sports two multifunction USB-C ports that support power, data, or video. It comes with 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB of EMMC storage (not upgradeable).
My only gripe at the moment is that it's a little slow to switch between its various 2-in-1 modes. It sometimes takes extra time for the screen to adjust its orientation based on how the user is holding it.
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great video Lon....looking forward to doing our interview
Thank you for keeping it real, there not many honest reviewers like you anymore. You're One of the last few trustworthy "CZcamsrs" please don't change😃
Thanks for this helpful review!
Just saw this video, the good news is you like this chrome book also, I got one of these mid 2017 before seeing this video. very happy with it.
Good video. Can you do an m5 or m7 version?
Nice review Lon. I wish you could review the new Samsung Chromebook pro, it includes a stylus.
great job, as usual!
There's a great article on anandtech on how a lower core m can beat a higher end one, and the principles apply here on that octane test. While the Lenovo has an m5, it's a tablet so heat is a bigger concern for both the chip and users holding the device. Lenovo likely had to be conservative about the chip's heat output while Asus did not due to the different form factor. The article I mentioned was from the original Broadwell Core Ms, but it was Asus and Lenovo in those same form factors. Anyway, great work as always, Lon.
Excellent video as usual
is the keyboard as good as acer r13? and backlit always stay on when you work on it? thanks
It is all about the VP9 playback on Chrome. Installing h264ify extension will change the codec to avc. But the issue we are getting now is that since early Dec 2016, you cannot play 4K videos using avc. The 4K option in CZcams video just does not appear.
I have a somewhat related question, what is your right hand keeps clicking on once in a while? Is that a switch for the cameras? Thanks for the great channel btw! Subscribed :D
Hi Lon, Will you review Samsung chromebook plus? And may be performance comparaison against this asus chromebook Flip C302 - Core M3? Thanks
Nice colour looks like it is built well
How would you compare this to the C101PA? I saw you did the video on that model but I am seeking a comparison of the two. They seem to be so close in what they do I wonder why we have them both.
Great video. Liked and subscribed.
Great Review on Chromebooks .
Hi Lon. This is a rather odd question, but with chrome books soon being able to run chrome os, is it be possible to use a chrome book to make phone calls while connected to wifi or 4g?
Have you connected a bluetooth speaker with it? B/C my last 2 chromebooks that indicate they have bluetooth won''t work. It says connected but does not play.
Hey Lon, I want to buy a chromebook and use a remote access NAS to have work data/movies/comics at home, is that possible? and what do you recommend for a 6/10TB use. Thanks!
Lon, did you have a chance to test the Android version of the Microsoft Office apps on the Asus C302?
Awesome video. I loved how you kept showing us different angles of the product being used. That's good, you need to keep giving us a variety of angles of the product so we can get a feel of it.
I have a question for you. I'm buying this device. What would you say is the best casting device that I can buy to use this laptop with my dumb-tv so I can play youtube, prime and netflix? Please reccomend a device.
If you don't want to spend a lot one of the $35 Chromecasts will do the trick. I reviewed that one here: czcams.com/video/FIt_9y9X1oI/video.html
There's a way to fix the issue with Kodi where the titlebar and taskbar are still showing. If you want the app to fill the screen, hit the "fullscreen" button to the right of "reload."
keep up the great work
is there a benefit of getting the m7 version of this, or is that too much power for the chromebook to really utilise?
can't wait for your review of Samsung Chromebook Plus/Pro when it comes out!
Can this be used w/a wacom or other pen for drawing?
Hey, Lon, why would you ever consider getting one of this over a windows laptop for the same price that is even more powerful? (asking seriously)
Been wanting a flip, might score an old one for ~150, but I care more about the tablet mode and android apps, but all in all I've been holding off for months now. My nexus 7 does just fine preventing me from buying one minus the screen size and no keyboard
Did you ever go deep in your Analytics and check the traffic sources and then even the operating Systems... highly interesting. I really didn't expect the Computer infrastructure to be in this state at this time.
can you please do a comparison video once Samsung Chrombook pro is released?
Does it have MicroSD , Can you replace battery, can you replace/swap ram?
Does it have USB2/3 normal and headphones port
Hey Lon. Just wondering if you checked out the updated model of the Asus Chromebook flip C100. New model is almost the same, but has 4 GB of Ram and 32GB of internal storage, and it costs, depending on vendors, for only $20-$30 more than the original. Still 10.1". The model # is C100PA-DS03. Hopefully you can get one and give a review. Thanks! Frank
i feel like that m3 (wich i assume is i3 with reduced power consumption) is limited to chrome os, can you try intalling windows/linux on it (i know chrome os is build on linux kernel, i mean tho full linux like ubuntu(mate)
You can use crouton. Go to developer mode to do it.
Please tell me how long it takes to charge the battery please
How's the nand performance? Got any figures?
Can anybody tell me if this chromebook can be opened with one hand ?
Hi Lon, I think it's funny that you have mentioned for a long time now that Chrome doesn't run youtube well! Seams odd that google owns Chrome and youtube and won't bother to fix the issue! And lets MS Edge out perform Chrome on PCs on low end machines! Can it really be that hard of a fix?
It's really surprising - especially when CZcams spams Edge users with Chrome ads to get them to switch :). I suspect it has something to do with optimizing playback for Google's VP9 codec.
+Lon.TV can i have the link to your video on getting google play store on chrome os?
czcams.com/video/obWZJ72gijU/video.html
Can you add an extra SSD??
How much is it now ?
hmm not sure which one to get this or wait for samsung chromebook plus or pro ? i will use it mostly for email, youtube and browsing..
George Perisic did you get any of them yet
Whats the point of buying this over the Asus Transformer that flips ?
I have troubles to find a Play Store review for Chromebooks. I am very much interested in seeing how Skype performs (can you create conferences/join them?). Can Skype properly access the webcam etc.
Is there any review around?
See here: czcams.com/video/v6LKsM1zLJU/video.html
Do you know if it works in a conference? E.g. Skype for Linux does not support it.
With the added support of linux on chromebooks, it makes this chromebook absolutely perfect for people like me that have powerful enough laptop/workstation and just want to have the mobile linux exprience!
Does anyone know if the sd card slot on these chromebooks are able to store apps.64GB and 32GB sounds very limiting for people who want to fill this thing up with lots of apps and games.
At the moment they do not allow the SD card to store apps.
Lon.TV thank you so much for responding I really appreciate it nobody on the internet could give me a answer. I heard a rumor that said on Google IO 2017 that they released SD card support but I didn't know if that was true or not and the Google Play Store is still in beta so right now buying a Chromebook for me would be kind of like a premature buying decision because what I have to buy has to last for two years
Hit the full screen key to the right of the refresh key.
I want the IPS screen and 12.5 inch size of this, but without frills and at a lower price point. Asus could sell a version without the Flip and Touch features, and power it with the new Celeron N3350 Apollo Lake processor. That would make for a very practical Chromebook, for less than $300.
I want the higher-end variant, the one with m7, 8GB RAM and 128GB storage.
pixelbook yo, it's so dope
Can you use a pen with it?
hopefully you can add more storage
how much is this?
Better than samsung plus chromebook?
What about expanding storage? Micro SD is only option? What about installing Android apps to SD since we have a small eMMC ??
No expansion beyond MicroSD
Or USB sticks with dongle :-( What about installing Android apps on SD (like with Android Marshmallow) ??
Not yet available. Chrome OS and Android run in their own sandbox and only share the Downloads folder, so you cannot read/write to or from external storage today. THey should be working it in later I believe.
erzascralet48 that's my biggest concern..the limited storage which is why I haven't gotten myself a Chromebook yet
i want to know if this brand can accept windows 10
Would this be of great use for a college student?
I think so, provided you're aware of ChromeOS limitations - lon.tv/chrome101
Is it quiet or generate heat?
Rud Do
This would be the perfect choice for a Chromebook and I would instantly buy it... if it were only at the $300 price point. It seems ridiculous on Google's part that they're already marketing these things as Android-friendly when clearly there are still many, many kinks to be ironed out.
i gotta get a chromebook wich one should i get ?
Mighty T, I was thinking like you, but pulled the trigger and got the Asus Flip 2. I have been using it for about a week now and love it. Based on what I know of the Samsung Pro the biggest advantage it will have over the Asus is the 3:2 screen ration vs the 16:9 on the Asus. If you plan on using the device in tablet mode often the Samsung Pro maybe best for you.
That said , the Asus is solid and I anticipate being very happy with it for the next 2-3 years.
thanks from the UK
Martin Towers no one cares
h264ify extension will make youtube play perfectly.
Whoa, whoa, whoa... an Intel Core _M3_ is performing only about as well as a smartphone? Please tell me this is an optimization problem...
If not, then how shitty are the Chromebooks with ARM chips?
+Demetre Saghliani optimization
Thank god. I wonder how well Samsung Chromebook Plus would score on that benchmark, if it's capable of running it to begin with.
Brother pubg play in c302c please reply
Can you install REAL linux on this without moding it
Acer chromebook r11 or Asus chromebook c302?
CT4REAL c302. My girlfriend got the 2018 r11 as I copped the c302. Its faster and just better.
Would it be good for drawing?
Lon, You need to pres Key 5/F4: to go into full-screen mode. Do this immediately after loading Kodi and you will be pleasantly surprised. Check out sites.google.com/site/chromeoswikisite/home/tips-and-tricks
Thanks!
Love Chromebooks, but not $500 worth. And certainly not with less than stellar reviews. You didn't totally diss this, but for that kind of money I want to hear more extremely positive remarks and comments. Good review though, as usual.
imma jus go wit da original chromebook flip.
save ya monay
7:15 name of the game please?
See the video description
Oh, OK. :D Thanks Lon. keep up the good videos
cool
I really don't get the whole chromebook thing... seems like the same deal as the netbooks that were all the rage a few years back. I guess this is a Linux alternative... for $500 I know for sure I'd either go tablet or pay a little more for Windows. Maybe google play will make a difference.
OneManShow I have A Chromebook as a supplement to my workhorse laptop. That way any surfing the Chromebook will take the strain, saves wear and tear on my XPS. The great thing is that if it gets sluggish, which it does after a couple of months, I just powerwash and ten mins later I have a fast fresh machine. Brilliant. My Dell Chromebook is an i5 with FHD matte screen, with 8gb RAM, it flies for browser use. Couldn't live without one now.
You're worried about surfing the web putting wear and tear on your XPS? hahaha oh lord
the bottom bezel is way too LARGE.... absolutely silly
Great video as usual. For $499 price, this is extremely overpriced. Other then the small size and being a 2-in-1, this has absolutely no advantages over a 7th generation low-end laptop in the $300 to $400 price range. it's amazing people are willing to buy this. all of the flaws that you mentioned make this product absolutely a waste of money.
poisonr you miss the point, this is for consumers that are within the Chromebook eco system. It gives many a choice above the low end Chromebooks, faster with better screen, touch, flip, etc. if you are a Windows user most will not be interested, as those that have wanted to ditch Windows (me) already have moved to a Chromebook. You have to remember this is a fairly new market and apart from the Chromebook Pixel we haven't really had a large choice of better spec Chromebooks. They will continue to eat into the Windows sales as tablets did a few years ago. Not saying that Windows will die but now consumers have a choice the mass exodus from Windows shows how their monopoly was the reason for their success, not the product (W8 still makes me sick).
Those consumers are idiots when picking a device. I can guarantee you whatever they're using their Chromebook for (which most likely is just surfing the web mainly like CZcams or porn) is no match for the price they can save and the added power and other benefits of a normal Windows laptop. Are you going to impress me because you can flip your Chromebook over? Do these people not already own a tablet? I doubt it. If they are going to put down $500 for this Chromebook then most likely they already have a high-end smartphone and a tablet and probably already a laptop or desktop. Heck you can save $40 and buy a Acer Aspire E5-575G-55KK Laptop: Intel Core i5-7200U 2.5 GHz, 15.6" 1080p LED, 8 GB DDR4, 1 TB HDD, 2 GB GeForce 940MX, Windows 10 for $459.99 right now online
But oh no it's not a new $499 Chromebook with WAY lower specs that still has dropped frames and a top and bottom bar you can't get rid of as Lon shows in his review video. Gosh, you sold me I really want this Chromebook now hahaha. Even Kodi sucks on this.
What's sad is Lon bought his Chromebook with his own funds. I know he resells it but still, that sucks. Who the hell wants to be in the Chromebook ecosystem anyways? Most people who use a Chromebook would be just as productive using a $50 tablet. I was hoping you were going to make some good points, but I guess I will have to wait til next year when a better Chromebook comes out. Til then cya
poisonr it's not the computer for you then right? I'm on my Chromebook now and I it! That said I paid $127.50 for it used on ebay just under 2 years ago!
$127 is way different then paying $499.
aaaand USB type C, so this computer is a no-no for me. i don't have much money, and i hate the idea of dongles.
Matthieu Lucas you need only 1 and youd be future proof. i wouldnt buy a new one w/o it
sibenikkk It's still not convenient to have to have a dongle with you at all times...
Same here... I will be getting a Chromebook and it and any other devices must be USB C. It's the future.
well then
damn... I was almost first.
OneManShow So early the video tops out at 360p son~
All chromebooks should come with m3 or i5.. no celeron or atom. Atom and celerons suck!
I think that even for windows we wouldn't see celeron and atom processors because in windows they are worst.
499 seems pretty steep for a Chromebook
Bobby Williams Yea it really is but it makes for the best Linux machine
tablet killer
That piece of shit costs nearly $750 dollars here in the UK!!!
www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-C302CA-GU010-Chromebook-12-5-Inch-Notebook/dp/B01MU9LS52/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1485017689&sr=1-1&keywords=ASUS+Chromebook+Flip+C302
I'm sick of tech costing like 60% more here, it's a fucking joke.
PatrickEVRAable Get someone to buy it for you in the US then ship it for 50$ lol
Android apps make it more worth it.
why don't asus create the real notebook with windows 10 with this design 😅
Of course the ssd isn't upgradeable. Why should oems give users such a choice? Those assholes. Put in an m.2 drive and call it a day so we can upgrade.
If you are willing to spend $499 on a Chromebook. Why not go for Windows? Not trying to stir something up. Really just trying to understand. You can get decent Windows Notebooks for 500 bucks.
alittleolder Deutsch because some people just don't need the Crap that comes with Windows. No malware or bugs and you can reinstall in minutes to get a fresh machine. Billions of mobile tech users and many of them don't need Windows, the success of tablets and the dire sales of Windows shows that consumers have been waiting for an alternative to the buggy virus ridden Windows OS.
You must not know how to use your computer if you're worried about viruses and malware. I haven't had any problems for years upon years. your reasoning made absolutely no sense. with a ssd you can do a restore in like 10 minstrel if need be.
alittleolder Deutsch Exactly what I had said. Heck you can save $40 and buy a Acer Aspire E5-575G-55KK Laptop: Intel Core i5-7200U 2.5 GHz, 15.6" 1080p LED, 8 GB DDR4, 1 TB HDD, 2 GB GeForce 940MX, Windows 10 for $459.99 right now at newegg. and these people are trying to talk you into getting this awful Chromebook.
poisonnr I agree 100%. I stopped using programs where I didn't know where there are from or at least used them in a save Environment but These days I buy the Software I use, Windows, Vegas, Office whatever.. and with some of the free stuff you just Need a tiny amount of Research to see where and if to get those. The only Reason Mac and Chrome doesn't have so many Viruses yet is because the platforms aren't used that much and therefor aren't interesting enough for Virus prorammers to bother with. Now that the Android phone is popular there's plenty of crap on there. Can't even remember when I had the last Virus on my Computer. Just pay like 40 bucks a year for 5 Computers and you are pretty much secure if you don't do really crazy stuff.
Exactly and you have the use of hundreds of thousand of programs. With chromeos you can surf the web and use a webversion of Office. Cool. And soon some Android apps. That's ok for Schools if they sell them for like $150 but not for a Price where good stuff starts somewhat
Useless for it;s price.
Chris Chung Please do a little research before commenting on things you know so little about.
It's not the Mexican Jesus! It's pronounced "Ah-sus", not "Heysus"
What's going on with Chromeboxes in 2017?
Juha, my 2014 Asus Chromebox i3 is still running strong. I have added 8GB RAM (total of 10GB) and the machine still performs flawlessly. I have it hooked us to a 27" Asus monitor and been using it daily for almost 3 years. I wouldn't be afraid to pick up one of these older machines if you are in the market.
That said, it's probably about time for a hardware update.