Outboard Motor on a Kayak!! (HangKai 3.6 HP on Nucanoe Frontier 12)
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2019
- I bought This Gas Outboard Motor (hangkai 3.6) on Amazon for about 200$. I Purchased it simply because there isn't much info about these motors out there so I figured I would gamble and see for myself.
Here are my first experiences and impressions of the Hangkai 3.6!
Let me know what you think in the comments.
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In case you don't know, a good coating of silicone spray or beeswax on cord will preserve and help the performance. Also,, you should never pull cord completely to the end when starting. Shorter quick pulls will work just as efficiently.
I was wait on the pull cord to break..
You need to adjust the airflow
When you opened the gas tank kinda sounded like it had pressure in the tank. Maybe you could put a vent in the cap and see if it runs better !!
The pull start cord happened to me too on my second outing offshore. They have a poor coiling spring(pull start cord )that messes up, thats why they send the extra pull start cord.
Ok, ive changes my mind. I want the Nucanoe 12!! For the simple fact I can install a second seat to take one of my kids out if they want to go. Also, the options for trolling motor/gas motor or even pedals is great as well. Thanks for the videos.
What model is that one do you know?
@@trippingonfaith7094 I actually ended up waiting and ordered the newer mode the “Unlimited”. It can also go tandem like the Frontier 12.
Try letting it warm up and break the motor in otherwise good job looks like fun 🚣🏼
I know this is an older video, but I'm wondering if you spent any time adding gear oil and breaking it in, for a day, before taking it out on the water?
Curious if you filled the gear box with marine gear lube? They ship dry from what I've saw in other reviews
Likely not.
Good review - Thanks Eamonn from Ireland/ Galway
Thank You. Now I know what NOT to buy.
exactly lol
@@5050fishing How is the motor?
😂😂😂😂
*He never pushed the choke back in...*
It's probably too late but I recommend leaving at a little bit of throtle so it doesn't turn off that easy
I have the 6hp hangkai and it pushes a 10 foot jon boat 12mph. I love that motor.
2 stroke or 4 stroke air cooled or water cool
Choke = off for the air to use the choke.....and on for when you want the motor to run with full air and no choke. Thats what to remember for the choke labelling.
i have the same motor.. its cold natured.. but you have to really work with the choke once you have it running.. it has to be adjusted just right.. and its almost like a throttle itself..and its labeled backwards.. off is (running normally ) on= choke on. (start only) once you figure out where the choke needs to be running.. its a great little motor.. follow the same routine and it starts and stays running until you run out of gas :)
All my instructions were in Chinese lol
Use beeswax on the pull chord. Replace cheap quality fuel lines
There should be a breather on the gas cap/can. It may have stalled because of the vacuum in the gas can. Check the instructions.
VA Outdoors Sportsman thanks for the tip. I will check it out.
+ x 1000
@@5050fishing yup
.ditto
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One last thing lol. I don't see any follow-up videos to this video but what did you end up doing with the Hangkai motor? Did you keep it on the yak? How'd it run etc
love your videos bro!
Thanks man! 👊
@@5050fishing getting my frontier 12 soon just got the pro staff deal accepted!
Pond_Slayer_Winz sweet! Congrats!
Thanks for taking the risk on buying and reviewing this :)
😎
@@5050fishing do you still own this Motor, ? I bought a Raft intex Mariner 4, I took it to the beach , It was fun but paddling sucks , I wonder if it will be OK with my raft
I do but the lower unit is locked up.
@@5050fishing what happened? is the propeller jammed?
Mark Chance never buy a non mainstream outboard
I'm getting ready to use my Hangkai 4/4 for the 1st time real soon too. Hope you added the lower unit gear oil first...
I did. Good luck lol
Always pull few inches till you feel pressure,Then apply pressure.Younwill other wise snap mechanism insise
For the money I would get a 30lb motor and 1000 cranking amp marine bat they are good for 4-7 mph, quiet, work every time, environment friendly,
Verdell Parent I already have a 55lb thrust motor. Not As fast as the gas.
I have this motor...its great! You need to change the spark plug, prime using primer bulb, and replace the fuel lines at some point...you keep pressing the shut off button...that's the red button...bulb is on other side! Also add beeswax to the pull cord so it doesn't get caught!
All the instructions were in Chinese lol... this motor has since blown up. I will never buy another knock off lol.
How long have you had it and how often do you use it?
@@SphereX253 I've had it for 2 years. Use it about 5 times a month. (APR-OCT) Works great!
Brian Franks I know this might be asking too much, but could you tell me everything you did to it, and how much it costed? And if it’s not too much trouble, send me links to videos of people showing me how to do all that stuff you did to the motor? I’m new to boating and want to get on the water but I’m on a modest budget with covid and everything.
@@SphereX253 check Out BoilerDan1 videos about Hangkai motors. Followed to a T and it works great!
HELL YEAH MAN, I'D SAY IT WILL STRAIGHTEN OUT MAN👍
A.T. OUTDOORS yea I got her started back up today.
Is the lower unit still locked up ????
Trev NŹ
You should a bit twitch accelerater when you start. I never have any problem when i started it.
Those are hit or miss. But my best friend has his Jonny bass 100, with a different name. But he's got it dialed in pretty good. Always mixes his fuel, and it actually runs awesome. I run the Suzuki 2.5 on mine. But, I think if you get it all set, she'll be fine. 💯 🌊 🎣 And the Nucanoe moves with any motor on it.
I think so, I've got this same motor and have no complaints. Strong running little tiller.
Thanks for doing the video. I have a wireless bow mount on my F12 and have been searching for a 2-2.5HP outboard for the transom. I was curious about the Hangkai but not anymore.
No problem! I’m going to do an update video soon.
Do these kayaks have a lot of water come thru the holes? I am really thinking about getting the 12ft frontier. But would like to keep my stuff dry as possible
Just use scupper plugs for the back and you are good
How did you make that wood seat platform to work with the rails?
Just Ray czcams.com/video/UY4WunBpVLk/video.html
Paid 230$ bran new for my 3.6hp Hankai (2022) and so far so good
Hey what you did with the motor? Are you planning in selling it? Nice video by the way.
Love to see an update. I have the same boat and was looking at that motor
JD B I’m gonna start working on one soon. I
Might throw her on the Jon boat though.
let it run for 10+ hrs and youll be fine
Did you have to put oil in the lower unit ?
Hi!
I also have this engine. But never use yet. Just keeping for my new kayak. Where you buy the handle extension? I still looking that extension.
West Marine sells it on their website.
The Gospel of John, when you're ready, friend.♥️🔥
Did you change the spark plug first?
THANK you for your video on Why Not to by cheap Junk outboard engines for your Kayak.
Miguel Salami 😂
You gotta turn the gas up on start
Did you put gear oil in it or did you burn it up
Great video man! I am new getting into kayak fishing and I’m a bigger guy myself, I am always recommend this kayak, how is it stable all around good boat? So far what I have heard it’s awesome. Thanks in advance for the input!
Very stable boat
seafoam, good gas and idle screw
Sea foam is magical
How long does that built in tank of gas last if your cruising around near full throttle ????
Like 2 days lol.. these things use like no gas. It’s crazy
Your supposed to run them at 25:1 break in procedure first. Then 50:1 after break in
Where you get a motor you have to do a brake in you have to reed the Emmanuel you’re not supposed to run it wide open under 10 hours after 10 hours of the motor running you can open it up to full throttle
Read the Emmanuel bro!!!!
You have one that works good still that you can open the throttle fully now?
If you had used it before I would say that your gas is probably mixed wrong but being that this was brand new you might have a little dust or something like that in the carb that's causing it to bog down like that when you give it gas
I wonder what this would be like with more prop.
Nice vid. Nice-ish cheap motor too. Since it was only around 200$ how do you think 2 of them will do on your boat? Twice as fast??
Two 3.6 HP motors won't give you the performance of a 7.2 HP motor. You'd be better off buying a name brand 5 HP motor.
Hull speed is 1.6 x the square root of the length of the hill. For a 16 foot boat (for example) the square root of 16 is 4, and 4 times 1.6 is 6.4, so a 16 foot boat can go 6.4 mph with a minimal amount of power (say 1.5 hp). Once a boat hits hill speed, adding power doesn’t do anything except make bigger waves and more froth/cavitation. That is unless the hull can be pushed into planing speed, where very little of the hill is actually in the water, but that generally takes a LOT more power for a displacement hull (such as a kayak’s)
Practically speaking, a 12 foot kayak can move at 5.4 mph, unless you can figure out some way of hooking a 10 hp motor onto it (at which point the kayak would be unmanageable by mist mortals).
Before I get flamed, yes, there are (of course) exceptions. Kayak hills are not all the same. Some plane easier than others. But, in general, the rules above provide a good frame of reference.
researching these motors around the web it seems they are not sold ready to use as those of some mainstream brands. but that does not mean they are bad engines. they just require more care... specifically the main points are: 1) these do not come with any lubrication out of the box and require it at all moving parts. 2) these require a 10h cold water break in period with a 50:1 mix... don't skip it. 3) immediately replace the spark plug. there are more things but these basically are 1970s shipping engines so they require more wrenching to use. so don't expect Honda level fit and finish from the start and they will work fine?
Yea it’s rough when the instructions only come in Chinese though lol
My Honda 2-3 feels cheap. Made in China.
My outboard would start on the first pull if I had a 20 foot long starter rope
How much was that kayak? and what is it called? im looking fOr a fishing kayak that i can upgrade and put rod holders seats all the great stuff you know is this a good one ?
Nucanoe frontier 12. I believe they are around $1500-1600
start pilot would be helpful
เป็นแบบนี้เลยครับเครื่องผม
3.6 แรง เครื่องไม่ติด
แต่ตอนนี้แรงแล้วครับ
is your hangkai still holding up? and how many times have you took it out? . im thinking about buying one, my friend has the same one you have but its kinda half and half .im not sure what to think about his , im just curious brother if you think its worth buying , can you do a update video on it please, great video by the way , i would really appreciate your feed back, i also have a kayak , thats what i will be using it with . thanks
Southerncajun92 don’t buy one.. too much trouble. Spend a little more for a Coleman
@@5050fishing k thanks for your honesty brother, one more thing , what type of guy are you , HONDA or MERCURY LOL
I’d love a Honda! Or even a mercury lol!! But they are twice as much as the Coleman and the Coleman is still way better than the hangkai haha
I've got one, mine is actually pretty good. Had zero issues with it. I read they are hit and miss, it's a 230 dollar engine. Very few moving parts and easy to work on, as far as bottom end oil and impaler goes. Got it for a canoe and kayak. Bought it cheap so I wouldn't worry about rolling over and staff. I like to play lol.
You need to start it from the kayak... Out on the water that's what you'll have to do.
LOL...just too funny
Gang
Pull harder. Shouldn’t you be using diesel? I’d try that first. Warm-up schwarmup. I heard the 3.7 hp is where it’s at. A whole extra 100 ponies
Bring a screwdriver so you can adjust the carb if it keeps dying lol
They are great IF you break them in with 10 hours idle
They make a decent anchor
Guys,, save the money and buy a real 4 stroke little kicker. You get good ones in FB market or Offer Up. Don’t waste your money that way. I did! I now I have a Yamaha 2.5hp 4 cycle. No mixing oil and gas! And plenty power.
You should have hooked the water hose up to it and ran it at the house before you ever took it out
Hey man that's nuts how stable is the kayak with the out board in the back at full throttle crazy👍😁
Jorge Rivero stable as hell man.
Sounds like the gas tank isn't venting?
Hawaii has the choke on backwards. It Chinese their open is closed and Vic versa
Yeah all my instructions were in Chinese lol
Typical Chinese...gave us bird flu & covid-19...licky to get instructions ! Trev NZ
The struggle
Open the vent on the gas tank....
These motors need a 10 hour break in period (no full throttle).
Add gear lube also
They will do that when they are a easy pull .you can’t pull it out all the way. Sound like a fuel jet when you give it the gas .
I've got this motor as well. For a cheap little outboard have zero complaints. Mine takes 5 or 6 pulls on a cold start as well. Let it sit in the sun for 30 minutes, starts the first pull. Little motor will run a 14' 3 man Canoe 15mph loaded. I'm going to mount it on my kayak next.
awesome! i bet you'd go faster with a different prop
Yeap! Or a better motor lol.. she isn’t bad though once u get her broke in.
@@5050fishing did you replace cord and try to establish new review? I was hoping you would show update.
😇😇😇😇🤦♂️
Id check gear oil in lower unit. Very noisy whine
and do a video cleaning up your local boat launch. Might give some idiots an idea....
That’s a good idea. These meth heads around here won’t care though lol..
1 : Put gear oil , 100% must
2: First 10 hours, don't go at max and break in with 30:1 oil, gas mix
3:beeswax on the cord
4:after 10 hours, 50:1 gas,oil
She’s makes a decent anchor
@5050fishing I must have been really lucky with mine. I got a 3.6 HP and it works great on my little 10 foot aluminum boat.
It is a 1.5 hp
*WHERE'S THE LINK FOR THE MOTOR!?!?!?!?!!*
I'd have idled for 25 to 30 mins first time. Then run low 0power to breake in
That happened to me
What is the name of that tiller handle extinction
I believe it was helmsmate
Says they're hard to start in cold weather, that doesn't look very cold!
All the directions are in Chinese so I’m sure I was doing things wrong lol
@@5050fishing I can translate in English. lol
Did you put gear oil in it?
Probably not
He refers to it as "her" so he must be a gearhead! Of course he knows what hes doing :)
Did you do a 10 hour break in?
Yeap. In the trash can… where it belongs lol
Hondas start.
0:02 is that a abandoned railway bridge?
You have to break those motors in before using them. They are notorious for not running well if they aren’t broken in correctly
Gang
Quick question does anyone know if it pivots up out the water
It does
@@5050fishing cheers bud
5 minute warm up would save frustration
The choke is backwards on all Chinese motors
It's a very cheap motor therefore all the parts are very cheap. You have to be really easy on the pull cord.. like someone else said just do short strokes on it don't pull it all the way out
1 year later, do you still have the outboard?
Yeap but I don’t use it
@@5050fishing would there be any way you would sell it?
Change the spark plug in that to a champion been doing a lot of research about the same motor for my kayak saying that that was a big problem the manufacturer spark plug is junk oh and make sure and put gear lube down behind where the propeller is it doesn't come with any and it will burn up quickly without it
She’s in the dump
My Honda 2-3. Feels cheap made in China. 1100$. My first/ second / third. Trip. Keeps shutting down half throttle. No more Chinese
Dude watch a video on how to outboard
Vapor locked, need to vent the gas cap better.
The first 5 minutes of your video and other videos of this very cheap Chinese motor puts me off buying it so il stick with my silent and peaceful 12v trolling motor instead 😃
That motor is it any good to so far if you buy it brand new that motor is it from Japan
Also don't use gas with ethanol in it. I'm not sure if this is a two or four stroke it sounds like a two-stroke so if it is a two-stroke make sure you mix your gas and your oil right or it will run shitty like yours was
Gotta leter warm up my man.. Expecially if its not broken in.
She junk lol
Look I don't hate on people but u should pour the gas when your not in the water so gas don't get into the water
whata does it weigh?
Like 30 pounds
This thing would fit nicely in a garbage can.
Got one of these because it was cheap. Wish I'd never done it.spend extra to get a established brand.
Yea I agree.
@@5050fishing Idle is too long. no good.