Is An Ancient Civilization Sunk Below the Azores?

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  • čas přidán 8. 05. 2024
  • Like the Nazis it inspired, seems like you can never keep Atlantis down for long enough.
    This isn't really a rare earth episode but given that the Azorean season was about myths and the comments on our previous videos all broke my brain, here we are. A little Wednesday realism in a cynical tone. I guess it is Rare Earth after all.
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  • @RareEarthSeries
    @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +142

    Alms to the cult of Rare Earth:
    www.patreon.com/rareearth
    ko-fi.com/rareearth

    • @franciscoacevedo3036
      @franciscoacevedo3036 Před rokem +5

      You should do a Collab with atún shei he made a video about Ignatius Donnelly and Atlantis and this pseudo science crap he also made one about n4zis and crackpot archeology

    • @WriteInAaronBushnell
      @WriteInAaronBushnell Před rokem +4

      Release a version of this video that's only 0:06 long, that cuts to black

    • @daviddavison5113
      @daviddavison5113 Před rokem +1

      @@franciscoacevedo3036 czcams.com/video/BS49gCSzav0/video.html link to atun shei video. I was going to say the same as you until I saw your comment.

    • @hamstarr100
      @hamstarr100 Před rokem

      the idea of the ubermensch has legs, small groups of men have defied the odds over and over again eg sparta, venice, Rome, Jews overcoming larger enemies

    • @rodrigopazin
      @rodrigopazin Před rokem +3

      Thank you so much. I am beginning my grad. paper on pseudoscience (+ effects on law and policy making) and this video seems like it will help me a great deal. Do you have any bibliography/reading to recommend?

  • @katethegoat7507
    @katethegoat7507 Před rokem +475

    I propose a reverse Atlantis myth:
    A city once prospered in a valley, till -whoosh! a mountain suddenly appeared under it.
    Some say the city is still in orbit.

    • @vee1267
      @vee1267 Před rokem +19

      An entire city got the JoJo-Kars treatment. I love it lmao

    • @1sdani
      @1sdani Před rokem +12

      That city was named Shandora.

    • @dopaminecloud
      @dopaminecloud Před rokem +6

      I'm pretty sure that happened in final fantasy 3

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před rokem +5

      The poor Atlanteans were threatened by the evil Athens and their supposed political purity.

    • @normanclatcher
      @normanclatcher Před rokem +4

      Avengers, Age of Ultron.

  • @robdavies82
    @robdavies82 Před rokem +236

    When I went there in 2018, there’s a 3D model of the islands located in a glass display at Ponta Delgada airport to show how they look with all the water removed. There’s also a hire car company there called Atlantis

    • @fingersm
      @fingersm Před rokem +7

      The was an "atlantis" taxi company in Toronto once upon

    • @madxico
      @madxico Před rokem +9

      @@fingersm So that shows it was indeed in Canada! :D that´s the spirit!

    • @BigPoppaSmokes
      @BigPoppaSmokes Před rokem

      @@fingersmhere in Reno we have a hotel called Atlantis

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee Před 2 měsíci

      Uber will defeat THOSE Atlanteans. The REAL Atlantis pleasure palace is in the Bahamas! Don't forget to hit the slots on your way to the pai gao tables

  • @rubenskiii
    @rubenskiii Před 8 měsíci +9

    There might be an explanation to where Plato got his Atlantis story from:
    A lot of ancient stories and myth have roots that go deep far back in time, oral mythicalised, altered, half-forgotten and half-made-up tellings of core stories people would have told eachother for generations.
    It’s not a coincidence some of the most well-known stories are proven to be quite unceremoniously copied from older people’s stories. Think of the Biblical Flood Story being basically a rip-off of The Telling of Uta-Napishti(ark story) and parts of the Illiad and Oddysee having parts that are remarkably similar to the Epic of Gilgamesh. People always love a good story. And some stories are so good they never died. They get adopted, incorporated, copied but just slightly altered to feature “their own” people instead of “their people”. Such are humans.
    In Plato’s day the story of “Atlantis” probably was as ancient to him as a copper adze might be to us. “Evidence” for this can be found in how Plato treats the story: it’s a verhicle to further his own story, political influence and financial well-being probably. He uses the story in such a way that it might tell us that it was a well-understood story, hence why he could almost use it in metaphoric way.
    But what do i base _my_ hypothesis or better said, wild guess on?
    Back in the ice age a lot of land was dry, more than there is now. All the water being stored in iceform did a number on global sealevels.
    People lived on the land that is now sea. Hell, even to this day fisherman in my country(the Netherlands) find bones of animals mostly but also human remains in such abundance that at some point it was considered almost as waste. Dead weight in every sense that you had to bring to shore but couldn’t eat. Throwing it back would mean giving yourself the same headache later.
    Nowadays ofcourse it’s much more important because of science but it’s still there on the seafloor that was once land in such abundance that if you would ask some fishermen nicely they would give you a stone tool. That’s how i got one.
    That ended at one point, quite rapidly from what archeological evidence for example can tell us. This must have left an impression on the people. The impacts where felt wide and affar, it helps to realize that before this event the Mediterranean wasn’t connected to the ocean. The melting ice did that, not so gentle according to people who know geology better than i do. That must have left a deep, deep mark. And what verhicles of remembrance and respect did people have then? Oral tradition.
    Thus i think this created stories based on a deep, deep rooted fear for land that you where born on, lived on, hunted on and expected to die on quite suddenly disappearing under the waves.
    An intense, almost primal story that lived on and on, even when memories faded and it became oral history, then myth, then legend and at last, history.
    If anyone read all of this i am genuinely surprised and impressed, because this comment must be longer than Even’s script and probably made a lot less sense too.
    Obvious caviat: i am in no way trying to prove that _well akshually_ Atlantis is real. No, i am just trying to give people something to think about, about why the stories of sunken cities and world ending floods stay with us so well.
    I mean, i am Dutch. We quite litteraly made it our thing to tame Posseidon. But yet these stories live, even here. Sometimes those faults in the software are wonderful, showing that we are indeed humans and not purely logical meat computers.
    There must be a maximum amount of words a CZcams comment is allowed to have but still haven’t found. But i have said enough. Enjoy your day all, kind greetings.

    • @lt.kettch4652
      @lt.kettch4652 Před měsícem +1

      There are a lot of “tribal myths” that can be attributed to the end of the younger dryas period of time, similarly to what you are saying.

  • @OsirusHandle
    @OsirusHandle Před rokem +181

    Answering the title immediately gives me so much respect for you. Clickbait is silly but somewhat necessary but misleading people is just wrong. For humanities sake, keep up the amazing content!

    • @Schmidtelpunkt
      @Schmidtelpunkt Před rokem +3

      Reminds me of a clickbaity title of Veritasium where the thumbnail itself showed the answer :-D

  • @NickDoddTV
    @NickDoddTV Před rokem +314

    The best storytelling on CZcams hands down. Please don't ever stop!

    • @NickDoddTV
      @NickDoddTV Před rokem +3

      @@MuffJohnson he does research and tells good stories, IQ has nothing to do with it. He's very open about the fact he isn't always 100% accurate

    • @NickDoddTV
      @NickDoddTV Před rokem

      @@MuffJohnson ur so cool man. I'm so dumb

    • @Wallach_a
      @Wallach_a Před rokem +1

      Agees

    • @buggerall
      @buggerall Před 8 měsíci

      Yup, he's the god of storytelling... Oops.

  • @dalstein3708
    @dalstein3708 Před rokem +670

    So... Plato came up with this Atlantis story because he wanted to Make Athens Great Again, as it were?

    • @_loser_on_line_
      @_loser_on_line_ Před rokem +64

      Damn... Echoes from the past became barbarians of the future.

    • @sosukelele
      @sosukelele Před rokem +30

      Something about the more things change the more they stay the same

    • @HeWhoShams
      @HeWhoShams Před rokem +23

      @@_loser_on_line_ I see where you stand.
      Never understood why people think ANY form of Nationalism is a terrible thing. Why would we, as citizens, not want a leader that truly wants their country to be the best it can be? They claim it's got ties to that of the German party of the 1930-1940s but that's just a copout.

    • @theoriesbanana
      @theoriesbanana Před rokem +65

      @@HeWhoShams was not expecting a "not all natonalists" guy in the comments of rare earth. I dont think youre the target audience here man

    • @ericcloud1023
      @ericcloud1023 Před rokem +17

      Lol exactly it was literally just some guys Fan-fiction of how super cool and awesome his city was....and those Egyptians, Babylonian & Persians better show some respect. Literally caries as much weight historically as the story of Hercules

  • @DanielVanDyck
    @DanielVanDyck Před rokem +51

    There's something about your story telling that is so compelling. Please never stop

  • @fobbie8385
    @fobbie8385 Před rokem +56

    All the videos you make are great. This is the one channel I share the videos from with my family because both my mom and my sister find them super interesting. Your way of explaining ideas has really inspired me to be more poetic with my language rather than saying things in a very plain way. I've sent your videos as in-class viewing materials to professors and I think they're a great style of documentary. I look forward to every new release!

  • @SamBs
    @SamBs Před rokem +12

    Without disagreeing with the point of the video, we should also recognize that what we know and believe our academic knowledge currently demonstrates, does not mean it is a permanent absolute, especially when it comes to history. As an example, we can look at Troy. Although Homer's story was known and read for hundreds+ of years, it was believed to be entirely mythical and academically we believed that it was certain that Troy had never existed. Yet, due to human persistence and curiosity we now know that Troy, as a settlement/city, did in fact exist. Although the Trojan war/Greek attacks on the city cannot be proven and were once believed to be entirely false, we now know that at least the city did in fact exist. That is why, although we should not believe every single aspect of the historical accounts and modern revisions of Altantis, we should most likely remain open and curious about whether or not a place known as Atlantis ever existed. In the video you seem to ridicule the idea of Atlantis by explaining parts of its creation/origin myth, yet many of the cities we know and live in have comparatively ridiculous creation myths (I.E. Rome, Athens).

  • @ThomasWhitakerFTW
    @ThomasWhitakerFTW Před rokem +157

    If Atlantis isn't real, how could they have put a Stargate there!?!?
    I loved the video, thanks for sharing with us!

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před rokem +4

      Checkmate scientists! Stargate is the only indication of veracity I need.

    • @goodluck5642
      @goodluck5642 Před rokem

      That was faked like the moonlanding

    • @pilote111
      @pilote111 Před rokem +7

      what a great series

    • @BrandanLee
      @BrandanLee Před 7 měsíci +1

      Johnnnn Shepparrrrrd

    • @mariakelly90210
      @mariakelly90210 Před 4 měsíci

      I thought that the 2 Stargates on earth are located inside Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado USA and someplace on Antarctica.

  • @geridannels1701
    @geridannels1701 Před rokem +32

    Thank you for the upload, it was fantastic!

  • @norlockv
    @norlockv Před rokem +9

    A belated Christmas gift from Evan and Co. This is one of your best monologues.

  • @shApYT
    @shApYT Před rokem +5

    Great video. Please make more of these videos on bigger stories like these.

  • @kaysb80
    @kaysb80 Před rokem +13

    As someone from a cold country, I appreciate how cold it must have been standing there in the snow with those shoes! Dedication!

  • @psykosmach6132
    @psykosmach6132 Před rokem +1

    That episode trully enphasize what I love about that channel!
    Thanks for your hard work!

  • @LOOMIS1638
    @LOOMIS1638 Před rokem

    I love your work man! This is one of your best. Thank you.

  • @thomastoscano3152
    @thomastoscano3152 Před rokem +8

    I watched 5 of your videos in a row and time flew so fast! It's way more than cool stories or interesting places. Your storytelling is amazing, one I wish to achieve one day, as I myself aspire to write about our world in an non obvious way, in an artistic way, as you do. Thank you for inspiring me to keep going. Your videos made my day!

  • @Aqoric
    @Aqoric Před rokem +69

    Another amazing video Evan! You consistently make some of the most insightful videos, I love your individual stories but these grander scale videos are simply unparalleled in their poetry and pertinence. The world is terrifying, the stories we make provide some solace in that especially in an age of refinement to a core set of truths but we cannot let them overtake reason and logic despite the uncomfortable nature of the world.

  • @Otawee
    @Otawee Před rokem

    U are such a story teller man. It's really relaxing to watch. keep it up!

  • @sneakyninja2773
    @sneakyninja2773 Před rokem

    One of the best videos I've ever seen. Your writing is exceptional! I loved hearing your viewpoint, absolutely exceptional!

  • @meisteremm
    @meisteremm Před rokem +355

    Atlantis did once exist, but it lay directly between Ireland and Iceland and was ruled by a race of giant, hairy men who had the ability to turn invisible at will.
    We know these people as Sasquatch.
    Eventually, they concentrated this cloaking ability through a mind meld and not only turned their entire island invisible but also raised it up into the air past the arctic jet stream.
    So, really, Atlantis didn't sink but instead turned invisible and rose to the sky.
    I hope this explains things.

    • @geridannels1701
      @geridannels1701 Před rokem +2

      Wow, how do you know what your saying is true?

    • @meisteremm
      @meisteremm Před rokem +43

      @Geri Dannels Because the rulers of Atlantis told me their story through telepathy.

    • @theULTIMATElife50
      @theULTIMATElife50 Před rokem +8

      So they are the Nox from Stargate SG-1?

    • @tylerkasper7143
      @tylerkasper7143 Před rokem +13

      I can confirm this as one Mr "Sasquatch" Sasquatch sat down to tea with me to uncover the whole story. We then talked about how the current inflation problem is really making it hard for him to keep his Atlantean toilet paper company in the black these days, and he might have to lay off some people before Squatchmas.

    • @roddymcniven8734
      @roddymcniven8734 Před rokem +3

      @@tylerkasper7143what happened to the cat?

  • @SebastiandelosAngelesHernandez

    Evan. As a christian who has faced the fact that his God exists because he need it to be so (call it spiritual clutches if you want, sometimes i need them, I just try not to force anybody to use them), and a uruguayan (thank you for your series on my country, I would loved if you visited further north) I want to thank you. Your work often helps me question my own beliefs. Plus I learn a lot from it. Thank you.

    • @ryanwilson8323
      @ryanwilson8323 Před rokem +7

      If only all Christians where like you I think atheists could put down the pitchforks❤

    • @SebastiandelosAngelesHernandez
      @SebastiandelosAngelesHernandez Před rokem +13

      @@ryanwilson8323 well, I think that most of that feeling comes from the fact that we all want to be "right", to be special, and shout it out. Funny enough, one of the most profound lessons I learned studying the bible was that whenever one thinks is right, then it's probably wrong (meaning that we can never fully understand the divine will), but too often I found people absolutely sure about their own interpretation. Of course that means I'm also "not right"

    • @johnny_my_penls_is_small_but
      @johnny_my_penls_is_small_but Před rokem +2

      @@SebastiandelosAngelesHernandez
      Argentinian here (Hola!). I myself don't believe in the Christian God (or any gods for that matter), but the way you worded your explanation on why you believe on God was really explanatory. It's true that a lot of people just want to spite each other or achieve some sort of superiority over religion (and politics!), but if everyone respected the opinions and beliefs of others as you do I believe this would be a much better world.

    • @rickkwitkoski1976
      @rickkwitkoski1976 Před rokem +3

      @@ryanwilson8323 Which atheists? What pitchforks? Atheists care nothing about religion or your "belief"! Just don't attempt to foist or force your "belief" off on those who don't want it.

    • @ryanwilson8323
      @ryanwilson8323 Před rokem

      @@rickkwitkoski1976 religion is like a penis, it’s cool to have one, you can play with it all you like in your house, but please don’t show it in public. I guess science is now in the same boat. Happy new year to you.

  • @redlefevre5448
    @redlefevre5448 Před rokem

    Outstanding video, very thought provoking. You're videos are definitely reaching new levels.

  • @ponyote
    @ponyote Před rokem +5

    Can i just say how much I love your sense of humor? It's very clear to me that you and your father share that. And I'm here for that.

  • @calistman222
    @calistman222 Před rokem +3

    I love your work. Sometimes you seem to stray off into leaps of logic however I love your presentation and I find your conclusions intriguing (even if I do not always agree).

  • @SephOgreThe3rd
    @SephOgreThe3rd Před rokem +3

    I forgot who said it but your statement about utopias reminded me of this: "One person's utopia is another's hell." It helps to put idealization into perspective.

  • @adoptedjesus133
    @adoptedjesus133 Před rokem

    welcome back guys.
    amazing as always.
    wish you the best.

  • @catfeatherss
    @catfeatherss Před měsícem

    This was so beautifully done. Thank you for this delicious food for thought.❤

  • @DiMono
    @DiMono Před rokem +17

    I've always viewed Plato's story of Atlantis as a thought experiment. I suspected the "perfect concentric rings" design was intended to be a clue to such. What's always bugged me about people talking unironically about "finding Atlantis" is that they're talking about finding a place that Plato invented out of whole cloth, and if they'd just do ten seconds of research they'd realize that, but they never do because the truth is inconvenient to their narrative. It's unfortunate.

    • @DiMono
      @DiMono Před 7 měsíci

      @@groundcontrol-888 Literally any literary source. Even Wikipedia knows, with the very first sentence beginning "Atlantis is a fictional island mentioned in Plato's works" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantis)

  • @chrisvaiuso6010
    @chrisvaiuso6010 Před rokem +21

    Another great video. Was all that beautiful B-roll of green hills and waterfalls from the Azores?

  • @usbxg3474
    @usbxg3474 Před 4 měsíci

    Man, you are gooood! Thumbs up and thanks for the upload!

  • @averageviewer6279
    @averageviewer6279 Před rokem

    Love your videos, you got a great almost therapeutic narration voice.

  • @Jhawk_2k
    @Jhawk_2k Před rokem +40

    Incredible. I feel like you made this video for me specifically, it's exactly what I needed to hear right now. I've been noticing the existential crisises that our society is seemingly conquering together right now, slowly

  • @e1123581321345589144
    @e1123581321345589144 Před rokem +164

    Here's my take on Atlantis.
    I read the works of Plato which mention Atlantis and it's quite obvious that he uses it as a supporting story to the point he was making.
    I think he based it on a real historical event, namely the invasion of the sea people from the west, during the bronze age collapse.
    During this time, all ancient civilizations in the mediteranian perished, with the exception of Egypt. The Egyptian were the only ones who defeated the sea peoples in history, but I think Plato just substituted them with Athens.
    Now from the invasion of the sea peoples to the life of Plato several centuries had passed. It's quite possible that the version of the story Plato heard was already embelished. After all, during these times very little was actually written and stories were passed on mostly by oral transmission.

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria Před rokem +25

      The problem with that is "there was a city that got conquered" isn't enough of a grain of truth to be meaningful. That could apply to any time and place in history. Nobody feels the need to claim that 1984 is a literally true story, so I have no idea why Atlantis needs to be real.

    • @e1123581321345589144
      @e1123581321345589144 Před rokem +19

      @@PlatinumAltaria it doesn't need to be real m8. I'm just analyzing the origin of the story. Nobody knows where the sea people came from, and as for the name "Atlantis", well that's clearly Greek, so most likely Plato came up it himself.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před rokem +7

      ​@@e1123581321345589144 The issue isn't "was Atlantis real or not" the issue is we don't have enough evidence to suggest what inspired Plato in particular. The story of the Sea Peoples is similar to Critias's tale, yes, but so is Thera. And more contemporary events like the Persian Wars, the destruction of Helike, or even Athens own failed invasion of Sicily (One of the speakers, Hemocrates, was even integral to the last one). Was Plato inspired by those or merely making a parallel? We can't know for certain. But the point is there's no way of knowing what inspired Plato in particular.

    • @kevinkeegan4817
      @kevinkeegan4817 Před rokem +5

      @@merrittanimation7721 Check out the channel Bright Insight. Jimmy does thorough job of making the case that Atlantis was located at the Richat structure in Africa.

    • @colewintringham5609
      @colewintringham5609 Před rokem +4

      @@e1123581321345589144 Also it should be recognized that Plato was an excellent writer who used his tales to critique the society around him. Perhaps having Atlantis be this unconfirmable thing was simply to add plausible deniability? After all he wasn't critiquing "Athens" or any other Greek city but "Atlantis" - any similarities between Atlantean society and Greek society are "clearly coincidental" . Like how any similarities between the islands in Gulliver's Travels and the European powers were "coincidental".

  • @thekotska
    @thekotska Před rokem +1

    You’re a fantastic story teller. Keep up the great work

  • @lidu6363
    @lidu6363 Před rokem

    I love your end notes a great amount.

  • @lynettecarter9887
    @lynettecarter9887 Před rokem +5

    Yet again you have slammed it home 💯 well done my friend 😉❤️

  • @CaptainCorneliusArgo
    @CaptainCorneliusArgo Před rokem +16

    "Facts never got in the way of a good story" - my dad, who also got me into the book:
    The Baltic Origins of Homer's Epic Tales: The Iliad, the Odyssey, and the Migration of Myth
    Which is a good read, and also contains Atlantis. It is way less exciting though (and is just Doggerland).
    Oh and very good video. I love these.

  • @ranke
    @ranke Před rokem

    This is your best video! Thanks a lot!

  • @TheCookieCrisp
    @TheCookieCrisp Před 6 měsíci

    This was phenomenal. The word structure and plot points are some of the best writing I've through thousands of films and across my many years of college. Well done.

  • @alexv3357
    @alexv3357 Před rokem +3

    "But while God might be dead, every corpse feed fungus, and in his ripe night soil stepped out a new order of believer."
    That straight up sounds like a quote from George R. R. Martin

  • @danielschick7554
    @danielschick7554 Před rokem +4

    If Futurama holds true, the lost city of Atlanta will be talked about in a 1,000 years.

  • @nicknolty3784
    @nicknolty3784 Před rokem

    love this channel !!

  • @MikeBMW
    @MikeBMW Před rokem

    Well done, Evan! Love it! Thank you.

  • @BoxheadHakx
    @BoxheadHakx Před rokem +11

    Evan you have another masterpiece. Your realism, or "skepticism" as Randal would call it, is appreciated.

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson3357 Před rokem +7

    Evan, like a lot of Rare Earth videos this focuses on the exact problem better than almost anything. We don't ever see our blind spots. We can't know everything and so we fill in the blanks with what we think should be and boy do we stink at that.

  • @jasond8734
    @jasond8734 Před rokem

    Maybe your best one yet. This is high quality, intelligent content. I learned a lot, and felt things. Thank you.

  • @gib666
    @gib666 Před rokem

    Back to your absolute best with this, most excellent!

  • @lemurlicker1846
    @lemurlicker1846 Před rokem +3

    "But while god might be dead, all corpses feed fungus" What a clever line!

  • @johncollins211
    @johncollins211 Před rokem +4

    Platos story is most likely made up. But the idea that there were neolithic cities on some islands in the atlantic doesnt seem that crazy.

  • @vitruviuscorvin3690
    @vitruviuscorvin3690 Před rokem +1

    I was thinking all along that hey that sort of looks like Austria, had a very similar view in Bad Aussee... then in the credits it turns out it's indeed Austria! Willkommen!:) I remember you responded on another comment of mine that you also have family in Hungary (where i'm from) , but it's cool to see that you also got some connections in Austria (where I live). You have quite the central european heritage it seems:)
    I guess it's a human evolutionariy instinct to recognize these sort of similarities and then letting the others know, but overall i'm just glad you have a perspective on this region too. (And secretly hoping you'll end up making videos about Austria and/or Hungary one day).

  • @CarthagoMike
    @CarthagoMike Před rokem

    Amazing mini-documentary as always!

  • @thomasmrkeby6488
    @thomasmrkeby6488 Před rokem +9

    There are so many places that somehow seem connected and since it is hard to date rock, they remain undated. Then again the environment tells a tale, placement, context, known history and also some of the rocks themself seems to be molded and made as a geopolymer. And I hardly think Hancock has spearheaded this, this has a long story with many people from independant to nonindependant researchers.

  • @IVIRnathanreilly
    @IVIRnathanreilly Před rokem +17

    Every time it seems to come down to people lying for one reason or another (usually for personal gain) about something that originally may have existed at some time.
    There may have been a kingdom that sank below the sea, everything else is however much more unlikely.

    • @Miycu
      @Miycu Před rokem +13

      There are multiple sunken cities in the med alone. It's one of the things that helps make sure it's atlantis that endures and not some other myth.

    • @nathnathn
      @nathnathn Před rokem

      Like one of candidates “can’t remember the name” was an actual advanced “for the time” island nation but their island died with a volcanic eruption and honestly if the island/nations gone the next time they show up in that time period they’ll assume it sunk.

  • @oscargonzales7948
    @oscargonzales7948 Před 8 měsíci

    Getting straight to the point. Wonderful!😃😃😃

  • @divra1994
    @divra1994 Před rokem

    Great as always!

  • @MistahNumbahAte
    @MistahNumbahAte Před rokem +5

    Very well said. Especially the bit about echoes from the void, gave me shivers.

  • @TheDeadlyDan
    @TheDeadlyDan Před rokem +8

    My own rule around rabbit holes; If you do go in, but don't see rabbits . . . you're not in a rabbit hole.
    When mythology becomes Mythology, it's intent is to remember. The myths we're creating right now will never convey what actually happened, despite our best efforts. As a species, we're very much prone to mold that memory into our social structure to convey our story instead. After even one molding, the original memory is gone. Fully 3/4 of the planet firmly believes some magic fairy or another from some other realm sits on their shoulder and guides them through life. And we fully accept each and every one of those religions. We don't ridicule them, despite them having changed those 'beliefs' over the same time to reflect their own time, ethics, and interactions. None of our legends, myths, or parables remain true to the original. It's how people work. Plato did the very same thing Hancock and Carlson are doing - taking mythology and altering it to fit his message. More than likely, the Egyptians also molded whatever they understood as the myth into their own cultural parables.
    The worst issue around Atlantis is that you DO see a few rabbits in the Plato Dialogues. Mythology is based in forgotten events and altered through time, but tidbits can remain. It's most helpful to stop thinking of ice age humans as cave men. None of the three or four species of human around at the time really lived in caves. Most of the remains found in cave environments have been left there after animals gnawed the last of the gristle off the bone. That date thing as well. It does seem strange that it points directly at Meltwater Pulse 1B, which was 80 or so meters rise in less than a year for most of the globe. Recent excavations off the coast at Atlit show the sudden flooding of communities along the shores of the Mediterranean, which over 9,000 years ago had domesticated crops and animals integrated into a fully modern city. People have always lived along the coasts, and we've always lived in communities, villages, and towns and we've always traded with far off groups of similar communities. For tens of thousands of years. What constitutes a civilization? We've always had the same civilization, it's just our level of technology that ebbs and flows.

  • @carolineleonard8214
    @carolineleonard8214 Před 2 měsíci

    Fanblyditastic. Thoughtful and an excellent monologue. Your writing is superb. I'm now going to investigate the rest of your posts. BTW there were soo many points where I was nodding in agreement, having read Plato, that I cannot remember where I found points for discussion. Also if anyone gets the chance the Azores are a great place to visit and welcoming, warm, generous people. Even when it pouring with rain I received metaphorical open arms and a smile.

  • @dharnamobrien7498
    @dharnamobrien7498 Před 4 měsíci

    Absolutely brilliant 👏 Well done ❤

  • @mariokotlar303
    @mariokotlar303 Před rokem +9

    14:23 "It's just that with plate tectonics now as common in the average mind as psychedelic drugs,"
    that line was legit poetry

  • @PlatinumAltaria
    @PlatinumAltaria Před rokem +5

    The most frustrating thing reading these comments is how many people are trying to "make it true" by trying to match parts of the story to real events. Here's a city that got flooded! Here's an ancient culture with some cool architecture! One guy made a story up and thousands of years later we have to debate whether Neverland was a real place. Maybe Peter Pan is Nebuchadnezzar and the fairies were a metaphor for drugs. OR, it's a story. Just a tale.

  • @aaronramsonwhite
    @aaronramsonwhite Před rokem +1

    Thank you, I really enjoyed this.

  • @phasm42
    @phasm42 Před rokem

    An essay in video form. Very well done!

  • @LoveFromAzores
    @LoveFromAzores Před rokem +4

    Hi From Azores ❤️ 🇵🇹

  • @ez45
    @ez45 Před rokem +10

    Holy shit, this is the best superficial historical overview into esotericism and conspiracism (and their links to the far right) I have ever seen, and I wrote my thesis on the topic!

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +2

      Thanks!

    • @ez45
      @ez45 Před rokem +2

      ​​@@RareEarthSeries comes from the heart. And the way you're able to put it all into a human perspective, a narrative.. what I am saying is you are pretty good at what you are doing, keep doing it.

  • @gabpacio
    @gabpacio Před rokem

    Text wise, in terms of construction of narrative, logic structuring of facts, this was your best movie so far (yes, I've seen all of them you posted). Congratulations. It was fantastic.

  • @boomshanka8743
    @boomshanka8743 Před 8 měsíci

    Bravo, well done!

  • @kotgc7987
    @kotgc7987 Před rokem +6

    If Evan writes his own material, it is very nicely written, almost poetical. He may be a poet, even if he doesn't know it :-) Moooaaarrrr!!!!!

  • @henningklaveness7082
    @henningklaveness7082 Před rokem +2

    Thank you for making this even though you didn't want to, it was a captivating take on idea history and religion. Did you read Arthur Koestler's *Sleepwalkers*?
    Until the credits I was sure you were in Norway. I like how the descending cloud layer marked the passage of time as you spoke.

  • @asianpansit
    @asianpansit Před rokem

    i like the "but they didn’t" part. as always awesome video ^_^ happy new year 🎉

  • @RaggaDruida
    @RaggaDruida Před rokem +21

    As somebody with a big fascination for ancient history and mythology, and whose father had a weird fascination with blavatsky, aliens, etc... This video needs to be seen by as many people as possible...

  • @GuagoFruit
    @GuagoFruit Před rokem +2

    I never knew Plato was such a big "source: bro trust me" kind of guy.

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +5

      in Ancient Greece historians sometimes cited their own dreams as a source

    • @excellent_name
      @excellent_name Před rokem

      @@RareEarthSeries Plato and Solon didn't

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +2

      Plato, the guy who literally invented the concept of the noble lie, never lied for noble reasons?
      Lol ok

  • @AdamHHI
    @AdamHHI Před 8 měsíci

    "everybody shoots the messenger but it was mostly erosion" is a great line

  • @SouthPeter98
    @SouthPeter98 Před rokem +2

    'I'm one to talk' ahahah great humour. Great video

  • @Jellybizzy
    @Jellybizzy Před rokem +11

    weird vibes on this vid...

  • @thesleepinggirl
    @thesleepinggirl Před rokem +7

    It's a shame Socrates/Plato's hot takes on Atlantis weren't looked into during Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

  • @lynettecarter9887
    @lynettecarter9887 Před rokem

    Keep them coming 💯

  • @flatembrace9565
    @flatembrace9565 Před rokem

    Great video. Probably the best in a while.

  • @JohnUnit
    @JohnUnit Před rokem +3

    This may be your best piece of writing. It won't get huge views, but it's amazing.

  • @dzrtdwlr7891
    @dzrtdwlr7891 Před rokem +7

    Reality and Science is always more fascinating than Any conspiracy.
    Thanks for the straight talk.

  • @rosepurdy6301
    @rosepurdy6301 Před 7 měsíci

    Daaaang harsh I never knew this! Thanks and well said

  • @ericpigeon6179
    @ericpigeon6179 Před rokem

    The slight ironic nod to the origin of this channel was great. Thank for making me laugh, and the interesting content.

  • @scpatl4now
    @scpatl4now Před rokem +3

    Love the quick Mr. Peabody and Sherman appearance (most of you have no idea what I am talking about...age has it's benefits)

    • @norlockv
      @norlockv Před rokem

      Did they show that one in Canada? I believe Dudley Doright was censored.

    • @xerzy
      @xerzy Před rokem +1

      I mean, there was the 2014 movie, so it shouldn't be *that* hard to remember...

    • @scpatl4now
      @scpatl4now Před rokem

      @@xerzy I was thinking more Bullwinkle...did not even know there was a 2014 movie. Age also has it's liabilities

    • @scpatl4now
      @scpatl4now Před rokem

      @@norlockv Did they have Bullwinkle?

    • @xerzy
      @xerzy Před rokem

      @@scpatl4now Funny thing, when I was a very young child I also got to see the 2000 movie of Rocky and Bullwinkle, although that one _probably_ is far more obscure these days...
      (oh and there's also the Prime Video show but nobody watched that one)

  • @maccie8284
    @maccie8284 Před rokem +3

    Actually, from a universe point of view, we already live in Utopia. Its that we just don't appreciate it - and are blind to recognize what was given to us.

  • @ianbrewster8934
    @ianbrewster8934 Před rokem +2

    Wow that was freaking phenomenal....
    So awesome

  • @starshot5172
    @starshot5172 Před rokem

    Great video 👌🏼

  • @Zanthorr
    @Zanthorr Před rokem +15

    Hey bro, what if the Atlantis myth was based off a real lost civilization?
    Rare Earth- "You're a nazi!"

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +7

      "hey bro, what if the reason you even know the term atlantis at all was because it was an invention of nazi-era race mythology"

    • @pengumpkin7993
      @pengumpkin7993 Před rokem +8

      @@RareEarthSeries Why does it even matter how it was originally popularized? It is very clear that the idea of Atlantis and the modern ideas surrounding it have long since departed and diverged from nazi-era race mythology or anything similar to it.

    • @Zanthorr
      @Zanthorr Před rokem +3

      @@RareEarthSeries Yeah I had no idea it was related to nazi's or anything like that. Honestly- you would make a waaay better docuseries than Hancock. Talking about cutting stone with sound waves lmao

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +4

      Because the reason you're out on a search is that a person 150 years ago said you'd find racism in the forest. Now you're asking why you can't just search in the forest without it being connected to the people who sent you out searching. You can't remove a branch from the root. It only started branching because of that root. Being ignorant of why you're discussing something doesn't mean history didn't happen. It departed from the root in public terms, but by upholding this specific island under these specific circumstances you're unknowingly repeating exactly the thing they set you out to believe.

  • @MrSixthcircle
    @MrSixthcircle Před rokem +6

    science can definitely tell you yes. the LHC said yes they were right that the higgs boson exists. amazing vid as always, cheers mate.

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +1

      Technically that's not true. What the scientific method actually says is that the Higgs boson 'doesn't not' exist. It can't affirm a positive, as there is always further room for a negative.

  • @isla25
    @isla25 Před rokem

    Brilliant video, thank you.

  • @jeremiasrobinson
    @jeremiasrobinson Před rokem

    If just about any other CZcams channel had this title for a video I wouldn't be watching, but I watch Rare Earth videos whenever I see them.

  • @amonaten13
    @amonaten13 Před rokem +5

    Thank you for this thorough response to the nonsense that is spreading faster again because of that Charlatan. Out of a sense of wonder I delved into that grotesque but alluring side of historical fiction through authors like Hancock, West and even D.H. Childress when I was young and discovered for myself the things you describe here. It is heartbreaking to see these ancient manipulations being so successful today but it just goes to show, There are so many bugs in the software.

  • @JenteKramer
    @JenteKramer Před rokem

    Love Love LOVE your videos

  • @watsondna
    @watsondna Před rokem

    Very well done. Thank you.

  • @pederchristopher
    @pederchristopher Před rokem +6

    I watched Graham Hancocks show on Netflix. I was waiting for the craziness to begin, but it never did. I feel he is treated a bit unfairly guys. To lump him in with the nut cases talking about aliens, nephtalim, crystal energies, etc... not fair. He puts forward a fascinating hypothesis that perhaps civilazation goes further back than we realize. Admittedly this idea of stone age evangelists traveling across the globe... a bit shaky. But overall he has some very interesting ideas... and he sadly gets dismissed out of pure dogmatic dedication to current theories. I love the current theories... but I just think we shouldnt be dogmatically dedicated to them. Thats always a mistake.

    • @pederchristopher
      @pederchristopher Před rokem +1

      Having said that... your video is excellent in drawing the connection between the occult, racial pseudoscience, and new age ideas... amazing stuff. And I agree, we long for magic in the world, so much that we will go along with some of this craziness. Sad, but human.

    • @danunpronounceable8559
      @danunpronounceable8559 Před rokem +2

      Agreed, the only criticism I have of his show is the lack of representation of real archeologists. If another season comes out I would expect this

    • @pederchristopher
      @pederchristopher Před rokem +2

      ​@@danunpronounceable8559 yes. I think they dont want to touch him with a 10 foot pole... career suicide. But thats part of the problem for why pseudoscience flourishes... the people who can ACTUALLY fact check these upstarts dont want to engage. Its very cultish behaviour on the part of the archaeologists. The tend to go for ad hominem atacks... rather than pointing out the actual flaws in the theory.

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před 4 měsíci

      If you think the reason Hancock is dismissed is because of dogmatic sticking to prevalent theories you have not done enough research into what peer reviewed and repeatable science says about Hancock's theories.
      People don't engage with him because he sells lies to quasi-religious supporters, and in our world there is no benefit to presenting fact to those yearning for dogma. It doesn't teach people, it just makes you the enemy of their ideology. He has been disproven by experts countless times, and yet even in your own worldview claiming to want him to be disproven, these dozens of scientific returns to reality haven't been enough (or, clearly, even looked into at all). To call this cultish behaviour on the behalf of archaeologists is wild. Absolutely the opposite of reality, and with zero genuine backing outside of what the pseudoscientists say about archaeology.

  • @lazyafrandomnumbers
    @lazyafrandomnumbers Před rokem +3

    Damn it, a rare earth video I didnt like or agree with, this is a first.

  • @fabioz6621
    @fabioz6621 Před rokem

    Thanks Rare Earth, I enjoyed this episode very much.

  • @ruperterskin2117
    @ruperterskin2117 Před 7 měsíci

    Right on. Thanks for sharing.

  • @scpatl4now
    @scpatl4now Před rokem +3

    Wow...a video on Wednesday! Nice surprise!

    • @RareEarthSeries
      @RareEarthSeries  Před rokem +1

      If I don't feel it is up to my normal fare I release on a wednesday :)

    • @michaelcherry8952
      @michaelcherry8952 Před rokem

      @@RareEarthSeries Nothing you release is anything less than wonderful. You set yourself very high standards indeed if something like this is "not up to my normal fare"!