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  • No really, they don't... We hear this all of the time, but at the end of the day, it's true. Here's why.
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  • @WorthlessWhips
    @WorthlessWhips  Před 3 lety +12

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    • @joaobaptista8377
      @joaobaptista8377 Před 3 lety

      How Many BHP btw

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 Před 3 lety

      Little secret. Sometimes they want you to pay even more for performance parts. That is parts that are not O.E./new replacements, but better parts. That car should be at least LS swapped with a T-56 with aftermarket axles, suspension, brakes. All at ridiculous prices.

    • @jpsulisz
      @jpsulisz Před 3 lety

      The Patreon link leads me to a 404

  • @bkip20002
    @bkip20002 Před 3 lety +44

    Born and raised in Detroit. Was a UAW member for 10 years... and then I purchased a 1985 Dodge... was amazed at the distinctly superior quality over previously owned vehicles... and then I was shocked to find out it was actually made by a Japanese company. No wonder the U.S. auto industry went bankrupt when it did.

    • @4xHitler
      @4xHitler Před 3 lety

      basically japanese are the german ingeneers of the new world. or maybe the old world cause owning an older japanese car is more of a safe bet

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Před 3 lety +4

      @@4xHitler: Nah, Japanese engineers are superior to German engineers. German engineers can make things extremely intricate and precise, but can't be bothered to test their products outside of the laboratory -- real-world conditions would require overbuilding components, which would reduce their peak efficiency, and that's just totally unacceptable to German engineers. That's why German cars driven outside of Germany require so much additional maintenance -- German engineers design German cars to work well on immaculate German roads, and don't care that their products get beaten to death very quickly elsewhere in the world.

    • @4xHitler
      @4xHitler Před 3 lety +1

      @@deusexaethera it's great to hear that from you since german car companys build most their cars at every other place except germany you get a lot of trashy poorly produced vehicles despite quality control. also there are many other factors which make car factorys produce worse products today than back in the days (one of them being the top down hierarchy where stupid "engineers" make wrong decisions on many aspects to reach the marketing strategy (lightweight, efficient, cheaper materials). your point is very much valid so I take back my say on german engineerinh

    • @siliconinsect
      @siliconinsect Před 3 lety +1

      Nice. I personally have owned five J-body GMs (Cavalier, Sunbird, etc) and they were reliable crap. EVERYHTING except what was necessary to move the car broke. After repeating this with five mid-90's Toyotas (some made in US) the quality isn't that much better. Door handles and plastic parts break but it'll never leave you stranded.

    • @junkman6456
      @junkman6456 Před 3 lety

      Through the last decade German auto builders have
      moved their quality control to the USA and financial
      controlling to China. Do junk quality by weird management.
      That's a joke now. Much earlier,
      German cars were better but you had to pay extra
      cash for each extra part of equipment. Just as it is
      normal in a market economy. And the Japanese,
      the Japanese, have always built their cars mostly
      only with robots, which of course omits human error.

  • @jbbuzzable
    @jbbuzzable Před 3 lety +19

    Those tanks are ridiculous. It's like 'what should we fill this space with?'

  • @bigjoeangel
    @bigjoeangel Před 3 lety +17

    I worked on my GM car this evening and had some success! I fixed the window motor on my 2008 Saab 93.

    • @davidcady7194
      @davidcady7194 Před 3 lety

      And where is SAAB now?

    • @bigjoeangel
      @bigjoeangel Před 3 lety

      @@davidcady7194 Try typing the word SAAB into Google. Glad I could be of service.

    • @davidcady7194
      @davidcady7194 Před 3 lety

      @@bigjoeangel I did and it shows that SAAB as an automotive company dissolved in 2012. I was never disparaging SAAB. I was implying that under the "great" management of GM the company failed. They attempted to have a Chinese consortium purchase them but that was blocked by GM. Who in turn solid technology rights for SAAB to a Chinese company. So at this time the remnants of SAAB is called NEVS which manufactures an electric car based on the SAAB 9-3. Also SAAB AB still exists in the military aerospace industry. GM never got their hands into that part of SAAB.

  • @IndependenceCityMotoring
    @IndependenceCityMotoring Před 3 lety +20

    I've had the same quality problems with many car brands of that era...

  • @teamdrivealot8441
    @teamdrivealot8441 Před 3 lety +34

    That eagle sound in the begining 😆🤟

  • @motodigitalvideo
    @motodigitalvideo Před 3 lety +11

    That was some pretty specific advice at the end about shipping your car to a small island! I must have missed the additional context for that one. 😂

    • @puggsincyberspace
      @puggsincyberspace Před 3 lety +1

      You need to listen to what he says at the end, some it so out of the ballpark and funny. Go check the other ones he does at the end.

  • @treetheodore6906
    @treetheodore6906 Před 3 lety +11

    Polish & welds look beautiful! Great job in 🇺🇸.

  • @nate_d376
    @nate_d376 Před 3 lety +12

    I had a 70 Chevelle long ago (wish I still had it) and the quality was miles better than the 80s GMs.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Před 3 lety +4

      They had the wrong idea. They believe if you build them reliably, people won't replace them as often. They're pulling Apple Inc. tricks; and their engineering focuses on specific failure points in a time period, with the only option to replace at exorbitant cost.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Před 3 lety +3

      They are now built to sell; not to own or drive for very long at all.

  • @F2007KR
    @F2007KR Před 3 lety +2

    I had a 1987 Firebird, I experienced all of this. My distributor was junk, the replacement was junk. The ignition cylinder was junk. The radiator was junk. The interior panels were junk. The engine and transmission themselves were great, but literally everything else around it was complete junk. And yet I still miss it.

  • @garylanzarone5842
    @garylanzarone5842 Před 3 lety +4

    A great deal of production vehicles after the early 80s were riding the reputation rather than delivering quality. Real nice attention to details Winston. Stay awesome. Still working on transporting motor for you.

  • @stephenobrien1597
    @stephenobrien1597 Před 3 lety +10

    I had a 91 camaro rs so I feel you pain. Went through 14 alternators in a year. Best thing I ever did was pull that 180 hp 305 boat anchor with a 5 speed and swapped in an LS1 with a t56 6speed. This was late 90's.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Před 3 lety +6

      >Went through 14 alternators in a year.
      wut...

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety +5

      How many times did the driver's side interior door handle come off while you were closing the door? Four times on my brother's new 90's Camaro. Build quality was terrible.

    • @stephenobrien1597
      @stephenobrien1597 Před 3 lety +3

      @@williamswenson5315 Weirdly that actually never broke on mine. But the normal starter, alt, and fuel pump gremlins did bite me.

    • @stephenobrien1597
      @stephenobrien1597 Před 3 lety +3

      @@troy3456789 Yup, and GM in their infinite wisdom used 3 completely different bolts to mount it. Original one died and I think it was more of an auto zone problem with the replacements than anything else. They finally got tired of me coming in for warranty replacement and just gave me a new AC Delco alt.

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety +2

      @@stephenobrien1597 Yeah, the first time I drove it, I was left with it in my hand. It was an awkward moment when I returned his keys and the handle together. Two weeks later, the same thing happened to him which resulted in a similar awkward apology for being upset and angry. That car was a real conversation starter; if nothing else.

  • @ivanmarkovicxxx
    @ivanmarkovicxxx Před 3 lety +6

    Check your alternator output. I once went through 5 ignition modules inside the distributor on my 2nd gen TA, due to an alternator overcharging the system due to a stuck, internal voltage regulator.

  • @dontspamrob
    @dontspamrob Před 3 lety +4

    those containers are gigantic

  • @finsterclause7184
    @finsterclause7184 Před 3 lety +6

    In 1984 my buddies Dad bought a new Z28 we were 17. How we managed not to kill ourselves still shocks me.

    • @grabasandwich
      @grabasandwich Před 3 lety +5

      Barely enough horsepower to move that heap 😆

  • @ChrisLincolnHomes
    @ChrisLincolnHomes Před 3 lety +2

    I loved my 88 Formula 350. It had it's issues but it screamed. My ignition control module also failed but it was because of wires that attached to it in the distributor. They had corroded off.

  • @edmcwilliams6524
    @edmcwilliams6524 Před 3 lety +2

    Winston Thank You For The Great Video.

  • @armyof100clowns6
    @armyof100clowns6 Před 3 lety +15

    There was a serious lack of quality in American built cars for a long, long run. A lot of really cool and iconic designs, but damn, what a bunch of dogs.
    As usual, great video! 🤘🏻

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Před 3 lety +1

      Many now have Chevy or GM on them, and they're not made in the USA anymore either (not that that was helpful in the late 70s, 80s, and 90s then anyway).

    • @jbbuzzable
      @jbbuzzable Před 3 lety

      @@troy3456789 Japan kicked Detroit's ass to the curb during that time. What a shame.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jbbuzzable When American cars were made in Detroit they were actually not as horrible as they are now. In fact, Detroit itself wasn't as horrible as it is now. Detroit is the most dangerous city in the USA now, and Chevy & Chrysler Fiat & Jeep are all terrible.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jbbuzzable The early to mid 70s was basically the end of American greatness in most cars. Now, GM is only concerned with its stock prices; not the reliability of its vehicles. *Its job is to do a great job of selling them; not engineering them & building them*

    • @jbbuzzable
      @jbbuzzable Před 3 lety +2

      @@troy3456789 In my opinion, it started when the US carmakers ignored the quality philosophy of Demming, and he went to Japan. They ran with it.
      The overzealous union and corporate greed at the time just added to the fire, creating the perfect storm.
      The Big 3 ignored all of the warning signs. It took them 20 or 30 years to catch on, but the damage had pretty much already been done.

  • @perrygoll6800
    @perrygoll6800 Před 3 lety +3

    Always love the updates on your proud birds and also "telling it like it is"...they were junk, but lovable junkers!!!! More power, more updates!!!

  • @jakeclauson9863
    @jakeclauson9863 Před 3 lety +3

    Believe it or not new cars, BRAND NEW cars have lots of issues. Components, electronics and even rust happens on brand new cars way more often than you would believe

  • @judosailor610
    @judosailor610 Před 3 lety +1

    Those pesky mountain bandits! Haha.

  • @3.v77
    @3.v77 Před 3 lety +2

    I've had an 89 and currently have a 87 GTA.. and oh boy am I constantly fixing parts on it.. 😐

  • @LeaveNoTrashBehind
    @LeaveNoTrashBehind Před 2 lety +1

    I guess I am subscribed to your car channel, I recently just found your other channel. Good stuff man. Not alot lot people these days wanna expose the truth, they're too concerned about getting shut down/cancelled.
    And I have 1994 Pontiac Firebird Formula, it's such an amazing car. I really like the 70s/80s Firebirds, you're right they don't make it how they use too.
    Stay awesome! 🤙🙂

  • @miguelgalindo7941
    @miguelgalindo7941 Před 3 lety +1

    I appreciate your pain my friend. I'm currently resorting a 1997 trans am. Fix 1 thing and five more keep popping up. But, i love my car. Your channel is great so keep going.

  • @nate_d376
    @nate_d376 Před 3 lety +4

    "Beset by bandits..." LMAO, until I remembered.....he lives in LA......

    • @jtwu8931
      @jtwu8931 Před 3 lety

      In Orange County I recall, a lot of anti anti-Asian hate mobs....

  • @dhanybegood
    @dhanybegood Před 3 lety +4

    You have a great content! I really enjoy every episode, I own T/A GTA 88 and know Your pain. Regards Daniel.

  • @versatec1
    @versatec1 Před 3 lety

    Thats a lovely tank upgrade...so nice and shiney😊👍

  • @ryanmacewen511
    @ryanmacewen511 Před 3 lety

    You bring up a very good point! lol. I refer to it as GM electrics of the 80's. Every time I fixed something I thought it was DONE. Then I realized nearly everything was being replaced or TLC tinkered with at least every 2-3 years. Relays, Switches, etc. Window switches, mirror switches. With connector pins as wide as pencil erasers, you'd think they'd be robust. lol. I think that's why I have 3 Audi A6's now from 2005-2008. Audi's are very frustrating at times to service, but the repairs are pretty rare. 80's GM quality was pretty sketchy in a lot of areas. Some of it though, can be spruced up a bit. The saving grace of the third gen is that parts are typically inexpensive. I do love them. I love the immediate turn in (at least on mine), and the design aesthetics, at least on the GTA. I will own one as long as I can. ;)

  • @sparklesparklesparkle6318

    Great video Winston I love the channel!

  • @HPTBANDIT
    @HPTBANDIT Před 3 lety

    I drove an 86 Trans am for three years of my four years in college. I picked it up with 114k miles. I won’t lie, I beat the crap out of that car and it returned the favor in broken parts. I replaced everything in 3 years except the motor and transmission. Parts like the alternator, brakes, and starter, I replace them every 6 months. I had an autozone lifetime warranty on most of the parts. I had no idea it meant I had to replace them for a lifetime. Around 190k miles, the transmission started grinding in reverse. I started looking for another car. I didn’t want another f-body after the stuff I went thru with the TA. Just my luck, the only thing I found worth buying was a 88 Formula with 87k miles. I didn’t want to buy it but I was desperate. It ended up being one of the best cars I ever owned. I only had to replace the starter and fuel pump over 4 years.

  • @wojtekdobrowolski8084
    @wojtekdobrowolski8084 Před 3 lety

    Wow! I'm so glad I've found this channel! A great youtuber turns out to be a car guy as well!!!!!

  • @rudevalve
    @rudevalve Před 3 lety +5

    Certified Gold!!!!!😎

  • @questionmark4348
    @questionmark4348 Před 3 lety +1

    I once talked to a guy who was looking to have parts made in China. He said he was told flat out by his Chinese contact that he could build to what ever specs he wanted. He could have cheap parts or very high quality parts he just needed to pick his price point. My point is, sometimes it's the supplier that chooses to source cheap parts. I wish I new how many parts are exactly the same from the same factory just re-boxed with some priced expensive some priced cheap. I'm in the process of looking for replacement factory looking headlights for my 2000 GMC truck....dammed if I can figure out which are the best quality for a reasonable price. I don't even know if OEM are any better or just re-boxed Chinese parts.

  • @disgustedvet9528
    @disgustedvet9528 Před 3 lety +1

    I owned an 80 Buick Regal and an 86 Buick Grand National both 80s GM products and had no problems with either . Now the Pontiacs I had previously owned, 64-69-73 all gave me water pump and heater core issues. Now my sons have had Mitsubishis and Audis which were expensive disasters . I think you can get a lemon from any brand , some just cost more .

  • @quicksilver462
    @quicksilver462 Před 3 lety +2

    #1 rule I have learned from working on cars for almost 40 years..... IF IT AIN'T BROKEN, DONT FIX IT!!!

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Před 3 lety

      As old as this car is, anything that isn't broken is pretty much guaranteed to be operating outside its original design specifications.

  • @NinjaRunningWild
    @NinjaRunningWild Před 2 lety

    Oh man, I have an 89 Trans Am GTA 5.7l with 84k original miles in _excellent_ condition & _every year_ I have to fix or replace _something!_ Now I have a cracked flywheel I need to replace this summer before it can be driven again, so I completely hear you. What that guy said I think he just means cars with personality & some sense of _soul._ And in that, I totally agree. They're tremendously fun cars once you get them proper.

  • @althunder4269
    @althunder4269 Před 3 lety +4

    That guy in the Trans Am commercial at the end was going to get laid and he knew it.

  • @maikeru01
    @maikeru01 Před 3 lety +3

    Aluminum is the only word that is acceptible in the way that the rest of the world pronounces it differently from the US. In that case we are the ones who changed the spelling. Every other metal ends with ium, titanium, magnesium, even Einsteinium. You win this round, South Africa.

  • @gimmefuel7268
    @gimmefuel7268 Před 3 lety

    I was excited to see another Fire Chicken vid in my feed this morning!! Love your vids man. Keep’ em coming. 😁👍🏻👍🏻

  • @LysergicKids
    @LysergicKids Před 3 lety +3

    "They don't make them like they used to!"
    What? Half assed, cheaply sourced, and unreliable? Haha.
    I guess there is a point to older vehicles being easier to work on due to the reduced complexity of on-board computers and circuitry. It does feel nice to pop your hood and actually see the engine apposed to hunks of plastic. But I agree, I'm glad they don't make them like they used to. I'm also glad that we can still buy older vehicles to tinker with and modify.
    It's also worth noting that old Japanese cars are really the only vehicles that don't have these issues. I recently started a new project on a 86 Porsche 959 and my god, it's a nightmare. It was the first time Porsche introduced liquid cooling... What American cars from this era lacked in regards to quality materials. The germans made for with overly, obnoxiously, complexity, and cramming shit into the tightest places with their little German hands.. Needles to say, the end result is the same. Cars from the 60s-90s are unreliable. Unless it's Japanese.

    • @jbbuzzable
      @jbbuzzable Před 3 lety

      I agree with every point you have made here.

  • @sequentious
    @sequentious Před 3 lety +1

    Looks like the same ICM that is used in the Pontiac Fiero. It's very common to keep a spare in the trunk just in case. Easy diagnosis of a faulty ICM is the tach doesn't move when cranking the engine.

  • @bcarss1970
    @bcarss1970 Před 2 lety

    0:22 top was my Dad's new in 86 minus the t-tops. 305, 5 spd, WS6. Not the fastest but was fun to drive I had an 84 Z like on the bottom except black, no t-tops, no orange stripe but mine was hooked up with engine mods, exhaust, gears, and beefy suspension. That car ran on rails. Out-corner any U.S. production car of the decade.

  • @7x779
    @7x779 Před 3 lety +1

    Ps: Indeed, your lucky that it failed at home. Imagine if it quit on you in the middle of a blm riot, Or somewhere in South Africa.
    By the way, used to be a guy with the website that shows a lot of cheap effective upgrades for those Tbi engines. If I recall, a throttle body spacer was one of them.
    That motor should also handle a 150 horse nitrous kit without harming the engine, and that will give you the throttle body space as part of it.
    I think I even have one I've been saving for when I get an old hoopty.
    BTW, The 350 Tbi Has a lot more torque and power if you ever drive to back-to-back.
    Good luck and keep up the good videos, specially the ones where you stand up against the CP and educate people.
    We have a whole generation of people now that are so blindingly ignorant of communism it's unbelievable, and I think it's been by design.

  • @NewEdgeDesigns
    @NewEdgeDesigns Před 3 lety

    Absolutely..I have an 03 mustang GT and I love suspension mods....

  • @m4_patriot374
    @m4_patriot374 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My dream car (it changes daily) is a 3rd gen camaro, basically your car and I am mentally prepared for breaking the cheap plastic on the interior and having to spend a little here and there for new ones.

  • @dianelee2100
    @dianelee2100 Před 3 lety

    I sold those brand new. Youngest salesman to work at 100 year old dealership. Every demo was a new FIERO GT. EVEN THE LAST YEAR. GREAT CARS

  • @hjjfffaa
    @hjjfffaa Před 2 lety

    Whenever I hear that phrase from someone, I like to bring up my 1970 Chevelle which has a service interval for re-torquing the body mount bolts every 50,000 miles. Imagine if a manufacturer tried that today.

  • @Igeeckow
    @Igeeckow Před 3 lety

    Love your videos

  • @7x779
    @7x779 Před 3 lety

    I mention about the distributor in my previous post. About the coolant tank, Plastic and rubber parts from China are garbage like you experienced on your cheap Chinese car. However there's a product called goop you may want to try next time, It's amazingly adhesive durable and resilient for repairing things like that tank and it may have worked. That tank does not hold any pressure so it only has to be mechanically strong watertight and temperature resistant up to the temperature of the coolant.

  • @Anonymous-ks8el
    @Anonymous-ks8el Před 3 lety +4

    They really don't make them Playboys like they used to!

  • @Mrbfgray
    @Mrbfgray Před 3 lety

    Painful about new parts failing--I was schooled on that when old industrial engine wouldn't run right after I replaced the points, didn't think it could be that just like here, but friend mechanic went *straight to new pts* when I mentioned it,...turned out the cam follower pivot was grounded to the base! I'd NEVER seen that before in decades of frequent pts maint and replacements and the parts shop was skeptical but put a meter on it and....continuity.

  • @maximilianswansson1264
    @maximilianswansson1264 Před 3 lety +6

    Was the new distributor made in China? :)

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety

      My thought as well. Wouldn't that be ironic?

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety

      @William Schwartz A good point. I don't know if the IM uses a heat sink, but if it does and it wasn't applied, that would be a resounding, "Yes!" If Winston didn't apply it and it is called for, he could get it at Radio Shack or a computer supply store. W

    • @blakenewton2781
      @blakenewton2781 Před 3 lety +2

      Possibly. And that might be a problem ( or it might not). It depends on how it was made. There are several different grades of components made in China ( or Taiwan, or Singapore or Vietnam). The bottom of the list is simply a copy of a copy. The quality control is almost non existent and the companies themselves have the life expectancy of a fruit fly at Martha Stewarts house. A rung up the ladder is the copy of a quality product. Again there is somewhat inferior quality control but a possible willingness to improve to the next step, which is the carbon copy. These are direct copies and have reasonable quality. Finally the last one is products designed by blueprint with very good quality control. Finding a quality product however can be difficult to ferret out, so far I have been lucky. Winston should have had another distributor to replace his. I have a box filled with new starter, alternator, belts and all the electrical components to completely replace the majority of underhood electronic ignition parts and keep me mobile. Being stuck on the side of the road on a busy LA freeway would be a world of suck.

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety

      @@blakenewton2781 Amusing comment about the fruit fly. Yeah, I suspect the paper trail would be difficult to follow if you were bird dogging the quality issue and I too, carry essential parts, tools and a full-sized spare tire in my GTI. As bad as LA freeways and some neighborhoods might be, the middle of nowhere is not an improvement.

  • @versatec1
    @versatec1 Před 3 lety

    The fun is making them better (perfect even)

  • @williamswenson5315
    @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety

    I've said it time and again, "Metal. Give me metal!"

  • @michaelgrow8630
    @michaelgrow8630 Před 3 lety

    Thanks. Miss my red Camaro with t top and golden cloth interior.

  • @michaelbernon8117
    @michaelbernon8117 Před 3 lety +1

    Had a 82 Camero.... Slow, V-6 piece of $hit... But WoW was that car a chick magnet!!!!

  • @davebarron5939
    @davebarron5939 Před 3 lety

    Sorry for your trouble. I purchased my 83 Z28 in summer 2018 (after looking at 20+), super car and had NO rust! (Most important thing where I live.) it was not running and had a bent axle, but UN-molested, I got it dirt cheap. I knew that the engine didn't run because the Ignition Module was bad, and the axle I replaced for $35 from the junk yard. And I have driven it trouble free, and enjoyed it since, you cant beat these cars, totally build-able, massive aftermarket support, and just scream LS swap. Your white TA is nearly 500 lbs lighter than your black 77 TA. PS. GM control modules are known to fail, keep one available, you will know simply because there will be virtually NO electric power anywhere. Love your choice of cars. Cheers!

  • @michaelzuccaro1798
    @michaelzuccaro1798 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the video.i still have my 79 t top formula from brand new.she still runs but needs to be gone through completely since it was my daily driver for 30 years.235000 miles on it.a awesome car to buy new when I was 18 making under four dollars an hour.that was my chick magnet back then.enjoy yours.

    • @WorthlessWhips
      @WorthlessWhips  Před 3 lety

      Awesome! Would love to see pics or a video of your formula

  • @P.J.MartyCone
    @P.J.MartyCone Před 3 lety

    Nice Licorice Whip !

  • @puggsincyberspace
    @puggsincyberspace Před 3 lety

    I got the same overflow tank as you but in black. But it's, not just that old tank that is an issue, my 2013 Holden (Chevy) Cruze has had 3 of those tanks replaced. so much so that I brought an extra one and since then, I have not had an issue...

  • @jond1965
    @jond1965 Před 2 lety

    I still have the original plastic tubs from my original 89 bird. I put in a new distributor 3 years ago no issues. Put a Delco fuel pump in 5 years ago still going strong. My car is not junk at all. I love my formula 350.

  • @VirtualR
    @VirtualR Před 3 lety

    Was going to recommend you get an aluminum replacement for the water bottle, good choice :)
    I've got an early 90's Holden V8 in Australia and almost every new direct replacement part I've purchased has been junk, issues with the distributor were identical to yours.
    It's definitely better to buy locally reconditioned, at least the mechanics / auto elecs doing the rebuilding process have had experience in choosing every little replacement part that goes into the main product being rebuilt.

  • @askannav2094
    @askannav2094 Před 3 lety +2

    GM must have been the same is every market. GMH Holden was excactly the same in Australia. The Australian GM's were assembled in the 80/90's with some sort of hard brittle plastics that seem to discolour & shrink in the Australian sun. Chasing parts to restore an 80's or 90's Commodore is such a challenge now , that interior parts in usable condition have gone through the roof .. price wise

  • @Avi8tor857
    @Avi8tor857 Před 3 lety +1

    It's always the ICM, especially if you just replaced it and it died lol. Two things if the heat transfer paste isn't used it will die very quickly. Also often for what ever reason the distributor often has a weak ground that will kill the ICM. Add a ground wire.
    Beyond that buy two and keep one in the "glove box" in the truck. Because it will die again.

  • @gene8842
    @gene8842 Před 3 lety +1

    I agree with every word of this video. Especially the conclusion. Love the channel and everything u an c-milk create.

  • @masskhamisi4
    @masskhamisi4 Před 3 lety +2

    I love my third gen..specially the manual transmission

  • @SupaFlyJedi
    @SupaFlyJedi Před 3 lety +1

    While I feel your pain in the cheap quality of GM cars, the upswing is there is a large online community dedicated to keeping these cars on the road, and no matter the issue, somebody somewhere has had it and has a fix for it. Ran into that plenty with my '97 Z28.

  • @Chris-qv5mc
    @Chris-qv5mc Před 3 lety

    Oh man I had the same problem with the ignition control module in my 87 Formula. What a headache it was to figure out that was the issue. Thankfully I encountered an old mechanic who knew these cars were notorious for that issue and diagnosed it. I once had a 1980 Z28 that was similar to your 79 T/A. Is it me or were the second gen F bodies just built better? As always great video and content! 🦅

  • @713Ace529
    @713Ace529 Před 2 lety

    Right. They don’t make them like they used to. In fact those were built ahead so their time I think. I’m so glad I still have my 91 Trans am t-tops.

  • @everythingautomotiveeta5839

    Awesome and fair

  • @ChucksGhost01
    @ChucksGhost01 Před 2 lety

    I've replaced the ignition control module on my 1991 S-10 five times in 8 years.

  • @josephgrondin9081
    @josephgrondin9081 Před 3 lety

    One of the reasons I ls swapped mine all new parts would always fail, especially the icm they constantly go always keep a spare with you. I like the aluminum overflow tank, I replaced mine with a fourth gen that replaces the battery tray

  • @matrix1879
    @matrix1879 Před 2 lety

    I put a similar overflow tank in mine but didn't drill any holes for venting. Do you think it is ok like this or should I have some kind of venting? thanks!

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 Před 3 lety

    I fear for your bank balance 😉 Looking forward to the next videos.

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera Před 3 lety

      The good thing about working on American cars in America is the parts are inexpensive.

  • @CreeperKen
    @CreeperKen Před 3 lety +5

    nice video hey winston hey milkyC

  • @josemontano7767
    @josemontano7767 Před rokem

    Where did you get the Aluminum expansion bottle?

  • @TheBlast4
    @TheBlast4 Před 2 lety

    Hello.. hey were did you buy the shifter?

  • @wingedhorsegarage473
    @wingedhorsegarage473 Před 3 lety +3

    Welcome to the world of 80’s GM . Every Fiero owner knows to carry an extra ICM in their car for this very reason! 😆

    • @devianb
      @devianb Před 3 lety +2

      I keep a spare one in my Trans Am along with some computer thermal paste. I would only get like 2 years out of them. AC Delco ones lasted longer than other ones. They always failed in the summer too.

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety +2

      Did it ever catch fire?

    • @wingedhorsegarage473
      @wingedhorsegarage473 Před 3 lety +2

      @@williamswenson5315 Lol, no. That’s kind of an urban legend . The 84’s were the only Fieros with fire problems and they were all recalled.
      I’ve owned an 86, 87, and 88 and not one ever caught fire.

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety +2

      @@wingedhorsegarage473 Thank you for both the reply and the recall information. Based on the handle, I'd guess in my usual perceptive way, that you are an expert on these cars. My comment was based, not on facts, but on anecdotes. I did see one, gloriously aflame by the roadside years ago and the other one, belonged to a close friend. That one, sensibly decided to combine vigorously with oxygen in front of a firehouse. He is a bit bemused to this day, when he describes the casual way one of the firemen strolled over and doused it with an extinguisher. That one was repaired and he kept it for years despite the non-stop ribbing he took from the rest of us about the "Moro Castle" and "General Slocum". He loved that car.

  • @dennisstafford1749
    @dennisstafford1749 Před 3 lety

    Can't wait to see the thing after some more tinkering. There have to be some alternative parts that work that are of higher quality or can be bypassed by modernizing systems.

  • @coolissimo69
    @coolissimo69 Před 3 lety

    The expansion tank is goegeous.

  • @chuckwhitson654
    @chuckwhitson654 Před 2 lety

    There's some decent cam grinds for the 5.0, getcha some aftermarket injectors and exhaust a better tune. And a 3:73 rear gear and you can get alot of red light to relight street racing fun

  • @KyleRTenor
    @KyleRTenor Před 2 lety

    Where did you get the aluminum reservoir from?

  • @savedfaves
    @savedfaves Před 2 lety

    Same as my bin or my sink basin. The plastic is impossibly thin. It’s a pain in the arse. Both cracked incredibly easilly

  • @Pissrust69
    @Pissrust69 Před 3 lety

    Woah where did you find that pic of the black and gold camaro? I have one identical to that

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide Před 3 lety

    Covid has lead to a global parts shortage, which has led to some junk counterfeit parts. I broke an axle shaft on my Jeep TJ and it took me 3 months to get a new one. A mechanic friend of mine says about half the clutch and brake cylinders he's bought in the last six months have quickly failed. He says, for the time being, pay extra for OEM. Unfortunately, Chrysler no longer makes the clutch hydraulics for my Jeep so I have to roll the dice.

  • @danielbjohnson
    @danielbjohnson Před 3 lety

    The new homes in Irvine are basically the same, built very quickly with cheap parts, but they have demand and supply so they make extra bucks. The "too soon but necessary" home upgrades will need to be better quality.

  • @patrickfreeman3579
    @patrickfreeman3579 Před 3 lety

    My cousin had one of these back in the day it had the tuned port injection and had transmission and rear-end work that car was scary the top of the car had stress fracture from the rear end twisting people could not set in the backseat when he got on it because the seats got hot from the tire when he did a burnout

  • @AshkenaziChristian
    @AshkenaziChristian Před 3 lety

    "Planned obsolescence" started earlier than we were led to believe....

  • @joakimsoderberg8046
    @joakimsoderberg8046 Před 3 lety

    I have a T/A Gta 88 and I totally understand what you. Questionable quality but I love it. Like almost every car from the 80s. What annoys me is the bad quality of aftermarket parts!

  • @barniyamum
    @barniyamum Před 2 lety

    its like with old swords handed down from generation to generation... one replaces the blade, another the handle, then sb the crossguard and pommel... keeps the thing alive..

  • @XxMusclecarsxX
    @XxMusclecarsxX Před 8 měsíci

    love my 87 iroc z t top, 5.7 and t5 swapped

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 Před 3 lety

    As an American; who has much experience with cars over the decades, there is a reason I drive Toyotas

  • @JasonTownsendJasonTownsend

    Is that the Gunship Dark All Day cassette? lol

  • @hickeyskustomresto
    @hickeyskustomresto Před 3 lety

    Could be plastics are aging out. Sometimes aftermarket parys are crap too.
    I had an 86 2.8 multiport camaro in the early 90's and ran it well past 300000kms. Never easy on it. I think I change the throttle body once and otherwise just maintenance .
    Pulled the plugs out at 300thou and they were burnt clean off. Still ran. Lol

  • @CPMest81
    @CPMest81 Před 2 lety

    You need to vent that new coolant reservoir mate, like the cap was on your original one.

  • @DanGoodShotHD
    @DanGoodShotHD Před 3 lety

    Yup

  • @marko3296
    @marko3296 Před 3 lety

    As an Alfa Romeo GT owner which engine blew up few weeks ago.. its one brand that still makes cars for car drivers

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety

      and for mechanics who would like to retire early.

    • @marko3296
      @marko3296 Před 3 lety +1

      @@williamswenson5315 i actually asked the mechanic that bought the car if he can sell the car back to me when he swaps the engine 😀

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 Před 3 lety

      @@marko3296 Just about every owner says two things about Alfa's. They love the way they drive and they are mechanical nightmares. Still if you love something or someone, you learn to put up with the flaws and focus instead, on what you love about them.

  • @dr.nigsopmcchortlefag9544

    I miss my 4th gen '94 M6 T/A.

  • @mikemcgown6362
    @mikemcgown6362 Před 3 lety

    Boy, you're not telling me any news about 3rd gen F bodies! I worked at the Chevy dealership from '88 to '92. Then I went to the Buick dealership until '95. Got to work on the brand new junk! Even worse than the F bodies was the Beretta and Corsica. Factory recalls for failing door hinges. The hinge first world seize then snap. Extra weight on the other hinge would snap that one, too! That dropped the door to the ground! Same hinges were on the Lumina's, too. Those were the days! Won't even get into the Astro vans or the Lumina APV (the all plastic vehicle). How about the new Nova? You know the re-badged Toyota? GEO? Joke and a half! Even after all that, I'm still a classic GM guy.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera Před 3 lety +1

    You talk about how big and ugly the coolant expansion tank is, but I look at that circular air filter and corrugated intake hose and I want to barf. New engines look so much better without those awful things sitting on top and obscuring the valve covers.