Great video. I've had Samsung QLEDs for years. I also have a OLED CX in my bedroom and its AMAZING for nighttime movie watching. I play a lot of games with huds and burn in has always been in the back of my mind, which is why I stick with QLED. For me, its worth the sacrifice of some dark room performance for the peace of mind. I have a Q90R now and it does incredibly well with dark scenes, my QN900A comes next week...can't wait to see the improvements made with mini LED.
I’m no calibrator. I don’t claim to be. Quantum knows his sh1t. I’m simply reviewing from a “how a TV makes me feel” angle. So I don’t claim to be a professional. Just providing my opinion.
I chose the QN90A over the LG C1. I watched and reviewed many. I thought the QN90A had the best PQ, longevity, features, and its versatility in any environment and any content. The QN90A doesn't need Dolby Vision; Samsung's Neo Vision does just as good. I only need only one port for gaming. Contrast is important, but so is brightness and color volume. Does it have some blooming... yes. On a full moon with clear skies, the moon blooms, too, lol.
from whatever perspective you see it oled>lcd(with all fancy name included QLED Nano cell etc). lcd it may have some pros over oled but in my opinion oled is the superior panel. with that being said i hope you enjoy your tv still a great option
@@sotosioannou6979 definitely your opinion and I respect that. I remain in the middle. I am uniquely positioned to own both. When you live with them every day. You open your perspective to different pros and cons.
@@ILT_AU happy for you mate. I would love to have them both but i can only get one. c1 was the one on sale at bf so i chose c1. Also is for my bedroom so the better brightness of QN90A is useless for me :P
OLED fans only watch space movies, and allways in a dark room for some reason. I prefer to use my tv for any content at any time so I got a QE75QN95 and don't think it's that bad, but that is just me.
OLED & QLED trade equal blows and like you said if you're not looking for it you don't notice it during use. They are truly best depending on what environment you are watching it in. Got a sunny living room? Definitely get a QLED but if you watch or game in like say a basement home theather or bedroom at night get an OLED.
Im lucky to own both the C1 and qn900a. They are both great. But in my opinion . I still lean towards the C1. Detail is more noticeable regardless its still only 4k, its because of the contrast ratio, yeah my samsung is brighter, but the contrast levels are unreal, popping out the images on my C1. Trust me I own both TVs. Go Oled. Qled not far behind though. Get qled if you have a bright room. Just my humble opinion.
Love the content! I had 2 Samsung QLED - first one had 4 dead pixels out of the box, second one (the replacement) had 7 dead pixels! For this reason alone I purchased the LG G1 65”. No complaints now.
Great video man and I agree with everything you just said! I own both qled and OLED. I had first bought the qled (q90t) and was going nuts on forums and CZcams videos with ppl saying how OLED was just better (it is absolutely in certain areas and vice versa) than qled. I had a serious case of fomo and couldn't resist so I bought an c1 to replace my ultrawide monitor. I just had to see what the hype was all about. I love the c1 for sure. The contrast is amazing and the blacks are jaw dropping. But it's HDR brightness compared to the q90t is not so good like you said. I wish the OLED was a little brighter. Again like you said if you don't have em side by side it's tough to really compare! I also find sdr content like the switch to be better on the qled.
Mind that for gaming sure you will see the difference in brightness in movies not so much as majority of movies HDR was set to peak 1000 nits. You won’t see 100-200 nits difference, you need double to notice it hence brighter Qleds don’t bring anything here. Color volume on the other hand you will notice, Qleds having it better but ultimately perceived contrast will make OLED more pleasing.
@@whitecrowuk575 my qled is right next to a window. Even with direct sunlight it's able to keep up. My OLED though not so much. Can't see anything. And that is with watching anything. So I have my OLED far from any window. As for gaming, I've been playing spiderman remastered on the ps5 with OLED and decided to switch to my qled. Holy hell the difference on those day scenes was staggering. Webslinging just became so much more fun on the qled
@@ILT_AU You can appreciate that in games and few odd movies that been mastered to 4000 nits majority though is done at 1000 peak unless you use tone mapping
I was just returning Samsung QN95A 75" yesterday. Faulty TV, terrible blooming, crazy DSE, jail bars or vertical lines on TV, sound and picture dropping out, flickering when playing the Xbox Series X on 120hz. Getting my first Oled ever tomorrow instead. LG C1 😁
DSE and Blooming just drove me towards getting a Sony A80j a few weeks ago and the clarity and contrast on OLED just blows me away every time I turn the TV on. I'm a little worried about burn in but the trade-off is worth it, pixel level control makes hdr really pop, full array just can't compete, for example when you have stars in the night sky on a QLED the detail in the stars are lost as the dimming algorithm tries to keep the blacks dark. I know it's not as bright but as long as you are able to control the light in the room OLED wins hands down. In a dark room I find it gets too bright for comfort and need to turn the brightness down. If you are in a room with alot of ambiant light then don't get an OLED you will be very disappointed.
It's refreshing to see someone not jumping on the Oled hype. They are undeniably stunning but for my use case I chose the X95J. I game but not hardcore fast moving multilayer or shooters, so I can see why you didn't go Sony. Vrr is not important to me and I am concerned about the inevitable degradation of oled from static images. Wouldn't feel comfortable playing zelda botw for hundreds of hours etc. Picture quality, upscaling and 4k at 60 is the reason I chose the way I did. Your place looks great and glad to see you enjoy the results of your build and getting your place together.
Thank you so much. Yeah I definitely feel that everyone kind of just gets on the wagon and no one really gives LED LCD TVs a go for gaming. Day to day I find my OLED dull, I know over time it will only get worse. Nice TV man. Congratulations that’s a solid choice. I just didn’t like Sony because of their lack of gaming features. When it comes to movies. They usually dominate.
There is zero comparison here. The OLED is far and away superior to not only watching tv but gaming. OLED has 4x hdmi 2.1 and has no blooming, has superior black level and infinite contrast. Superior response time. QLED advantage is the brightness but it has just 1x hdmi 2.1 and has no Dolby Vision, and the worst thing about it is that all LED have DSE dirty screen effect and the Samsung QLED are awful with this. OLED has lower brightness but the contrast is unmatched and no blooming. If your advantage for going QLED is windows and brightness that is not a better tv, that is just a compromise. Nobody should buy a QLED for gaming not in 2021
DSE, FALD grid patterns, noticeable zone transitions, and the rather blurry motion(due to slower pixel response) was ultimately the deal breaker for me with QLED, and why I finally went OLED. I’m glad I did too. However, I’m still wanting more. And I do still think it’s the objectively superior tech. However, not without it’s limitations. I’m also just a huge fan of Quantum Dot color and that brightness. On LG OLEDs, my eyes just cannot unsee the white subpixel dilution. It’s a real shame. I don’t agree with “nobody should buy QLED for gaming in 2021” tho. That’s just a bad take imo. QLEDs can be amazing for gaming, and much more impactful. Especially for those bright and colorful games, where OLED just reaches it’s limits. It really all depends on your use case, and what you like.
The QN900A has 4 x HDMI 2.1 ports. Have you owned a QN900A, have you spent more than 15 mins with one? Lived with one? Lived with an G1 and a C1 in the next room? There is a major difference.
@Waka - I actually like all of them for different reasons. I guess the point of my video was that I am living with all 3. Also that I’m just being honest about which one I tend to gravitate toward naturally. Which is at this stage the QN900A. I’ve been playing Halo Infinite on xbox with a keyboard and mouse. 120FPS on the Samsung feels like a PC. Everyone is saying things like OLED pixel response times and so on. Yes. Facts are facts. But I really feel like people missed the point of the video. You want facts. Go to HDTVTest. He is the king. This was just a video to say I feel a lot of people write qled off because of all the hype of OLED. OLED is popular for good reason but I’m fortunate enough to have all the top TVs in one home. As far as I’m aware. No one else on CZcams does. So day to day I do naturally gravitate towards the QN900A with its flaws and all. It seems no one took the point of the video. They are all sick TVs.
@@ILT_AU nice. I lean more towards the oled as it has better motion. Also I can't stand the backlight on leds, hurts my eyes. Guess I'll need to experience them all to make a judgment.
@@ILT_AU A review of - overall performance movie watching experience. Netflix hdr resolution content is very bad on most tvs. How is it here , vibrancy their do colours pop out to give a great show. How is the processor does the upgradation really work from 1080p to 4k and 4k to 8k. How is Fast moving objects motion smooth.
@@ILT_AU hi how are you . Hope you and family fine. I got my qn900a. Fantastic set. But unfortunately it's got DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT. Especially when watching sports green fields lots of banding , grey areas etc. Have reported to samsung . Did you notice any DSE on yours .?
Maybe I’m lucky but I have no DSE on my set. That’s really a sucky thing to happen. Sorry to hear that. It’s the same with OLED and QLED. There is definitely a panel lottery.
@@ILT_AU thanks for replying. Ya actually have put up the case and engineer's visited. They dint know this type of problem exsisted, but we're happy I reported as it will help them in future . SAMSUNG INDIA is looking into it as never has been reported but higher executives in country no about this it's happening a lit in USA AND EUROPE especially from 2019. Before that panels they say were better and SAMSUNG quality control was much better and equal to SONY. SONY has a special branch which dosent allow such faulty panels to be cleared. Now I am little apprehensive should I replace this set or take my money n never touch SAMSUNG again. Because no guarantee the new set will be fine. Have told samsung if they can provide a no DIRT SCREEN EFFECT replacement I will take or let's see SONY Z9J or wait for next year. My q7fn 2018 75 inch model was crystal clean panel. 85 inches clean panels is what looking for . OLED I feel still have better chances of not having DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT . What would u have done .? Does calibrating a tv help in removing . I doubt any calibrators in india.
Hi mate. Great review thx for putting in the effort. I owned a c8 it was great for watching movies in the dark. Upgraded to a qn95a this year. For movie watching I slightly prefer the oleds image. However when it comes to gaming the qn95a is like a revelation: the picture becomes alive whereas the oleds picture seems flat and dull by comparison. So as gaming to me is really important it's the qn95a for me especially considering that dark room performance is so close to oled
That’s exactly how I feel. That’s awesome. Great TV too. Congratulations. I think a lot of people miss that point where I said I’m a gamer first. So it’s just my personal preference. Doesn’t mean I’m right. But at least it’s good to know others feel the same way
Once you throw movies into the equation OLED is a hands down winner. You may disagree that's fine but when you get actual blacks vs greys it is so much better. And I don't have a q900 Samsung but I do have a q70 from 2019 and a cx. The cx is in the basement and the Samsung is in the living room
Vividness is the number one TV selling metric for non enthusiasts, and Samsung knows this better than any other manufacturer. People usually don't want what would be considered best, they want wow factor and that's what makes having options great!
Yeah but the oleds look more vivid that the qleds for sure. It's mostly because the qleds wash out the picture due to the extreme brightness and also the higher contrast on the oleds.
Thank you for this comparison with gaming in mind specifically. I’ve gamed on Samsung for 11 years now and didn’t know if OLED was worth switching to LG. After watching your video I think I might like the over-the-top brightness and extravagant colors of QLED more. Part of playing games for me is getting away from the real world that OLED seems to be able to replicate better. Thanks
I also bought a QLED last week, and think the oled hype is a bit biased too, the bright HDR is supernice on QLED. Oled has superior contrast but I miss the HDR high nit the qled has. Light comes into my house alot so Oled is just not working for me. The new q75 q85 q95 QLEDs have ultra dimming which makes it even harder to detect the blooming. On another note: Samsung is going to do QD OLED next (Best of both worlds, 2 layers) probably going to be crazy expensive though. I will stick with my QLED for now.
This is my new favourite review channel. Its about time someone told it how it really is. I wanna love oled, but in my front room...youve just sold me back to samsung!
I often get shocked at how protective people are about their OLED. It reminds me of Samsung vs Apple hack in the days. People would get so angry lol. They are all good it’s just personal taste. If you have a bright front room. Samsung QLED all day my man!
Great review! I appreciate technology all together. I've actually become a mini LED fan since I've been introduced to oled. While I still appreciate OLED TVs, I can't ignore how much Samsung has improved.
@@ILT_AU i got the 65 inch. In sweden, its currently on sale. The c1 cost 200-300$ less than the samsung qn90a 65 inch. I got the c1 also for the weird reason to not enjoy my gaming during the brightness of day. Since im a compulsive gamer and need to do other irl stuff, with the c1 in a bright livingroom. Im confided to game at sundown.
Yeah that’s the major issue I had with the C1. The brightness wasn’t even close to the Samsung. However I do feel the C1 was a bit smoother in its frames but there’s no perfect TV. But again. Congratulations on a great TV you will be so happy!
Breath of fresh air, this video is. As someone who has been on the "HDR is the greatest TV innovation since HD was introduced 20 years ago" bandwagon, this video validated me. The Samsung Q90A and mini LEDs in general are a turning point. Black levels good enough for a dark room, yet enough brightness to do HDR justice. Add on HDMI 2.1 that pretty much is bug free (finally) and it's time to retire that 12 year old 1080p display! Thank you. The honest opinion about Dolby Vision and HDR10+ not adding much when you have a light cannon of a display helps also!
A lot of people are angry at me for saying these terrible things haha. But I’m being honest and that’s all I can do. Thank you for a great comment. And congratulations on a sick TV!
@@ILT_AU I went through all this many years ago with Plasma and LCD. Always put Plasma in the dark rooms and LCD in rooms with ambient light. But that was before HDR. Now brightness is king and OLED just doesn't have what it takes. Dark room or bright room. Let the haters hate.
Wont lie i used to be a QLED Samsung head for 15 yrs. Got my 1st 77" LG GX n i cant go back. Its not as bright as Qled but i like my eyeballs. Samsung prices r 2 high & they are asleep @ the wheel.
I needed to see this. You should ad something to the title about brightness. I've searched "are oleds really dim" which only finds c1 reviews... I was about to order a 65" C1. Now back to deciding between x90j and qn90a
I bought the C1 while ago, I was building a mancave to my basement but it wasnt ready yet, so put the TV into our livingroom which has windows at all sides. It can be a problem when day light fills the room. I think you should consider the purpose of the TV before buying. I bet you wouldnt really be disappointed with either. Now C1 is in the basement mounted in a wall with pretty much zero light coming outside, and It comes alive.
Hello Layman's Terms. 👋🏼. Cool video. Sending my respect from the UK. 🇬🇧 also a knew subscriber to your interesting channel. Currently I own a 65inch LG G1 & I'm amazed by the quality & colours of this TV. I've been down that LED/LCD Road, & once I tried oled, I'd never go back! But that's me. My choice. No one else's. I'm really glad you're enjoying your Samsung TV, because its an excellent TV! If you enjoy it more, that's absolutely awesome. Because that's your choice, no one else's. I'm glad you've tried out these awesome oleds aswel. One Question my fellow gamer, why does that grass on that Samsung look like its glowing green?? Because on that oled, the grass looks green. 🤷♂️ One last question, where did you purchase those awesome LED lights from?? Thank you! Stay safe & well. 🙏🏼
Samsung generally shoes more saturation in colours. I like it in games. Congratulations on your new TV I’ll actually do a video next on the lighting I’m using in my room. Behind the TV I’m using a Philips hue gradient light strip :)
So much this. I mod a Bravia group on Facebook so we get a lot of feedback. You can't even compare the a90j to other OLEDs even the a80j. As soon as I saw they were going with the LG OLED I knew how this would turn out. I'd take my a90j over any TV on the planet, but realistically I'd take that Samsung over any other OLED.
@@supremetaaanxz2241 Who cares what's accurate? If someone is more happy watching oversaturated colors every day, who are _you_ to say they're wrong? Also, you haven't got a clue what the world looks like through another human being's eyes. None of us can ever know that.
@@davecarsley8773 wait really? Is that really your analogy? And the guy who owns and runs this channel likes your comment? I haven’t got a clue what the world looks like through another humans eyes yet standards like 20/20 vision and TVs can be calibrated through a camera which recognises accurate colours? Directors master content using mastering monitors which are accurate yet you come with generic moronic things like that? And again the person who owns this channel LIKES YOUR COMMENT? Ok, I’m done. I made a point, based off fact, and now I’m just getting biased bullshit. Ur all a joke.
Everyone is different man. And that is ok, some people prefer the artificial look. I guess you just gotta go with suits you the best and I respect that.
LCD for games, Got it. PS, the game makers never really allow games to go full black anyway, play some that "fade to black" on an OLED, they never reach it, they only fade to gray.
I have LG CX but I don’t trust it since Im trying to avoid Burn In so I bought a Gaming Monitor with HDMI 2.1 4K 144hz but if you’re going to get a Tv for Gaming I wouldn’t advise Oled but Qled or LCD would be better but I would Oled does makes Games look all look amazing
Finally a real non-biased review. No technology is perfect so pick your poison I think most people watch more bright scenes than dark scenes so brightness in bright scenes is more important to me than blooming in dark scenes. Like someone mentioned I am not watching stars fields and fireworks all day. The brightness of the Samsung is no match to the OLEDs which would give me a much better viewing experience.
Yeah about the brightness, I upgrade my x900e49” 2017 midrange tv to the C1 48” couple weeks now , yes my Sony tv is more brightness and sometimes can hit 1000nits but the contrast on the C1 is so good and for me and I focus more gaming I prefer the C1 4K 120fps Dolby vision 1ms pixel refresh 4ms input lag beautiful contrast and 48” not too big I love it , btw the Samsung is beautiful tv too you can’t go wrong with any of those 2 TVs
Dolby vision isn’t that big of a deal. I don’t miss it when I go into the next room. The C1 is a fantastic TV but my point was that when you have something to compare it too, every day, It’s a very different thing. The c900e was a very old TV of course a 2021 OLED will smoke it. Either way. OLED. QLED. You will be happy :) Congrats on the new TV
I have both LG C1 77” and Samsung QN 9A 65” (which is even a better TV in terms of brightness/black uniformity than the Q900A per reviews). The C1 image quality is just perfect. There is no dispute here. The Samsung comes close, but I can’t help but notice the ever so slightly blooming effects around white objects on the screen. It’s subtle but it’s there if you are used to the perfect contrast from the C1 you will notice it. I have to give it to Samsung for the brightness though it is very noticeable brighter in bright scenes. Overall, the C1 is still a better TV due to its superior image quality the Samsung can’t match.
I guess going off what you hear and owning one is a little different. But I respect your comment and agree to a point. I agree the C1 has a better image quality however the Samsung has more eye catching pop.
I do have a OLED and the QN900A.. and the HDR in games is ridiculous.. I prefer it for games. Makes them come alive.. after a day with the mini-led.. the OLED looks like there's something wrong with it because of how low nit it is.. but honestly.. you can't go wrong either way
Again it’s very difficult to explain in words. My video was explaining that living with the two TVs it’s a very big difference. The GX is nice but I find it doesn’t have the punch a QLED does. It’s contrast is what helps a lot with HDR. I guess you think it’s plenty bright until you get a bright TV. Then you understand
Personally i want lgc1. I want lowest latency. Vrr, and best picture quality. Samsung is better with the picture imo. And sony x90j is a great lcd and looks awesome but lg is the way
I got a LG C1 in the living room and last year's Sony 900H in a bedroom. Yep LG C1 is a great tv with all the gaming features with all 4 HDMI ports supports 2.1. I did not get a Samsung due to 2 big reasons. There are lots of users of Samsung tvs that reporting to have DSE issues like this video czcams.com/video/louoRUd8e_Y/video.html . That is not acceptable for a high end tv. Plus no Dolby Vision as Samsung are the only company not supporting it.
@@therider04 i think Samsung is overpriced. But the thing is when you buy a Samsung at least you know your tv is gonna do its job. But personally i had to say no to Samsung this time. I was at best buy and it said " xbox series x" ready. Or some crazy stuff. But then i seen sony x90j and it looked good. But i should have just went oled. First off i never had an oled. Secondly the lg has all the gaming features i wanted! But if sony doesn't get vrr. Within 2 more months im buyin lg
@@loitersquadX Sony released the VRR on last years 900H. I tried it and don't like it. It turns off the local dimming. Make the picture look bad. I leave VRR off when I game on this tv.
Every time I think I moved on from QLED, a video like this gets recommended to me. I saw how the colors can be overblown in some games and to me that is annoying as you lose some detail in the picture. However I would be lying If I said that I’m not keeping the QN90A in my mind in my upcoming purchase. I would love to see how Samsh Ultimate would look like on a top tier QLED.
@@ILT_AU Yup, Super Smash Ultimate. The game is so colorful on my low tier LG 2012 TV. So I really wonder what can a top tier 2021 TV can do with that game 👍 Also I promise you that the QN90A is living rent free in my mind. It’s just that the faster pixel refresh rate plus the input lag that LG have are too tempting. Yet how colorful and bright a QLED can get will surely be a great experience in person. I’m still torn between the two TVs.
I’ll get a copy and make a video for you. As I said. I have the C/G1 and QN900A. I game on both. Both do 120FPS with VRR + HDR. Unless your a robot. I can’t see any difference in the refresh rates. In fact. I was playing Halo infinite on the QN900A with a keyboard and mouse in 120FPS. The movement from the mouse and the screen was in perfect sync. No lag. I was blown away. Don’t get me wrong OLED is awesome too. But again in the video I mention it’s not about cherry picking specs from a spec sheet. It’s how it made me feel. I couldn’t tell any difference in terms of input lag / display lag between all 3 TVs. All I know is I kept going back to the QLED like a toxic ex girlfriend. You know you shouldn’t but you can’t stop!
@@ILT_AU Lol, also you really don’t have to if you don’t want to buy it. but I’d definitely appreciate it. The matter of buying a TV is better while looking at those TVs in person in a showroom or something, so that us consumers can make an eye test that doesn’t get manipulated by all that techie stuff in regards to CZcams, and how there are limitations with the Camera recording the footage and how CZcams convert the video so that it doesn’t look like exactly like real life viewing. I’ll keep thinking about what to get for a while, but it’s fine to me as I’m not in a hurry 👍
I use a Philips Oled and its definitely brighter than LG even though it uses an LG panel. I also have a Hisense U8QF (EU model) and the brightness on that is incredible. I like both.
@@lizaandersson7738........ I came from an LG Oled. It was an older 1080p model but it suffered from severe ABL. And I believe the C1 is the same. Absolutely no such issue with my Philips Oled 705 65 inch. (€1299 in Ireland) That's an absolute bargain. The only thing I don't like is the pixel shift which is quite noticeable. You can see the bezel getting bigger each side from time to time. However, I'd much prefer that to the abl on LG TV's.
@@chilly6470 Thank you for your reply. That’s interesting, its a bit harder to find info on the Philips than the LG sadly. I feel like the LG also is more prone to have black crush from what ive seen. One thing that makes me hesitate to get the Philips is the software tho, i’ve seen some reviews mention that it is quite buggy and Philips is slow to fix it in updates…
@@lizaandersson7738.....You're welcome. Philips are quite slow with software updates alright. I'm completely happy with mine though. As long as I can watch netflix, watch TV and play games, I'm happy. And it looks great doing most of those things. The Ambilight is the icing on the cake.
*Subscribed Really love the way QN900A looks, I was real close to buying a 77” C1 but feel the overall brightness is starting to bother me. QN900A looks amazingly bright and I love that, while it doesn’t have the accuracy or contrast of an Oled I’m still leaning towards the 8K Samsung. What are your thoughts on 77” C1 or 75” QN800A / QN900A
I love both. I just feel people give OLED too much love. If I had to make a choice. It would be the QN900A. It’s so bright and the colours are so full. It’s a great TV. I really do love the OLED also. If it could get over 2000 nits. It wouldn’t be a question.
Your so right, oled is the superior tv but it’s really only dracula tech. Any sunlight and it’s advantages go up in flames.Working from home due to covid I sold my oled as it was so underwhelming due to poor full screen brightness. Excellent contrast and reality but unless it’s pitch black your a spectator not a participator. Most reviewers do their opinion pieces in pitch black rooms for a reason. When oled can push the nits of a led I’m all in and will never look back but the blooming and reduced dimensionality is a small price to pay for immersion and impact. I’m not a Samsung fanboy they are just the best at the moment for blacks, contrast and immersion so I purchased the qn800b 85 inch and am absolutely remorseless.
Great video,very informed,finaly someone speaks the truth,I have the qn900a 8k for my living room and it's fantastic,I have the lg gx oled for my bedroom,its awesome,so both technologies are great but oled is not last long
I have a Sony tv right now and am currently waiting for my Samsung QLED to come in (My currently Sony TV lacked functions which is why I wanted to try a different brand). Personally, I've seen LG OLED in stores and I was never blown away by them. The blacks are nice, but something about the color just seemed to lack. I opted for Samsung mainly because it's brighter. I usually have a well lit room so that seemed to fit my needs. I am hoping I made the right choice. Thanks for the video. It seems to all come down to preference at this point.
Consoles don't use Freesync..they use HDMI Forum VRR Also ALLM is soo overhyped..it literally takes a second to switch to game mode using the remote.... Local dimming and black levels take a huge hit on LCD'S game mode..... You forget most if not all Oled owners have come from LCD'S/ Plasma's and specifically Samsung TV'S before LG took production of Oled
Have to say that for me the most important factor is that a tv is not too bright. Got fairly sensitive and very dry eyes, and every time after gaming on my 2019 Q70 my eyes are just burning even after toning down the brightness as much as possible without ruining image quality completely. Not a fanboy of LG or OLED since I’ve never owned either, but just ordered a C1, hoping it’ll be easier on my eyes. My Q70 also has the worst ghosting and brightness fluctuations I’ve ever seen and Samsung just says no fix is available, so definitely no Samsung for gaming ever again 🙄
That’s certainly a fair point. I actually had a friend gaming on the QN900A for a few hours and he said the same thing. I actually dialled down to a dimmer picture setting and he loved it after that. In terms of your ghosting. You gotta keep in mind that is a low tier TV When your at the top tier. No issues like that. Also a C1 is a pretty high TV to compare to a Q70. It’s not a very apples to apples comparison. I wouldn’t write any brand off IMO. That’s just asking for regret :)
Yeah totally true, altho apparently Samsung failed the whole 2019 lineup with gamemode ghosting, since the same complaints and CZcams-videos are all over the place of several models including Q90. Left me with a bitterish taste of ”well, oops, but here take a look of our newer models”. Hopefully nothing similar happens again :)
Great video brother 👊. Nice overview on these TV's. Yes OLED is awesome and the best you can get for gaming. I had got the G1 65 inch. One of the main reasons why I bought it it's just the way it looks so sleek and sexy. Plus it was the right choice for me for gaming and movies. Samsung looks incredible I've seen them at Best buy mini LED q90a. This is the first time they're doing it so the technology could be a little twitchy reliability maybe an issue since it is the first year of these mini LED televisions. Just subscribe great channel 👍👊
Thank you so much. Great comment. You disagree with what I said but you said it in a very constructive manner. I really appreciate it. I’ve been getting jammed with hate comments about this video. And congratulations on your incredible TV you will be so happy!
@@ILT_AU yes no problem brother. Yes I did people shouldn't jam you with all hate comments. But hey it's bring the action to this video. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I do agree that OLEDS will never touch LEad brightness and I must say I do love having a nice bright TV. But you cannot have the best of both worlds. Your video got alot of hits which is 👍. Well definitely build up momentum your channel. Man I wish I had an Xbox series x. Do you have an extra one I can buy from you lol 😆
People get very defensive when it comes to their TVs lol. Just jump on twitter. There are heaps of stock alert bots that ping you as soon as stock is online. That’s how I managed to get mine. Just make sure you know what sites the bot is monitoring. Make sure your account is setup and payment details are saved. I find usually once an alert goes off you have about 30 seconds to pay. So you can’t be messin’ around :)
@@ILT_AU yes they sure do. I don't get defensive at all but I will if people are talking crap against OLEDs 🙂. Thanks buddy I definitely have to check that out. Happy Thanksgiving
Don’t know about the QN900A but the QN95A has horrible colour accuracy in game mode which can’t be changed. For me accuracy in all modes is key. I want the game/movie to look how the creator intended it to look. Was looking at getting a QN95A , X90J or a X95J as I wanted to step away from oleds for gaming and sports purposes (banners and huds) Currently testing out the X90J and colour accuracy is excellent so far.
It is quite simple really. If you have a right room use a LED LCD panel. If you room is darker OLED is better. OLED will get dimmer over time because it is an organic display much like Plasmas were. If if ppl are going for the best then they will choose a newer TV before this is an issue. Very often the LED LCD that are very good cost more than the C1 so there is a compromise as with anything. If more brightness is required then persons should get a Sony master class OLED which is brighter than the C1 or the Panasonic model if they live in the UK. Noth of those are very picture accurate out of the box and need no tweaking at all.
Hi good video! I'm in Australia, may I enquire what size you have got for the LG C1 (is it 77inch?) And also the Samsung (is it 75inch)? Also how do you find the G1 compared to C1 in terms of viewing n living room and sunlight glare? Also what mount do you recommend for the C1. I just purchased the C1 77inch and Samsung qn800a 75 inch during black Friday sales. Appreciate your work! Thanks
Thanks for the comments. It’s the G1 77”. C1 83”. QN900A 85”. It really depends on where the window or light source is. I got the G1 in my bedroom and a window to the side. It’s not too bad. If the window was directly in front of the TV/behind your seating position. You would definitely be in trouble. Less light sources the better. That will some nice bias lighting your in heaven. The Samsung will rock your socks in HDR. The OLED will blow you away with how it makes most things just look better in general. The contrast is killer. Congratulations on the new TVs. Your going to be so happy!
Thanks for the quick reply! Sorry found the size dimensions in your video. Initially I got 2 C1's (77 and 83) - one for theatre and living, but came across lots of videos regarding reflections in sunlight. Have requested to return the 83 in lieu of trying the Samsung qled for the living area. Hope these would last many years - they are expensive!
I hear ya my man. Does hurt the pocket. The QLED screams so bright. No problems in the bright room. I dare say the OLED is more forgiving in terms of picture. The 8K panel really shows imperfections if the content isn’t decent. You will be happy.
Really good review, but just felt it was centred around gaming, what about a more detailed comparison for movies and TV shows? Still on the fence whether to get QN95A or LG G1!
@@therider04 if you get that exchange then tv that shouldn’t make a person not buy tv that there a chance you may or may not get a defective panel . Like saying don’t buy the lg oled this year because there was reports of tv dying after a few months and not turning on which I have seen on CZcams also .
@@leeparkinson5900 ????? All I said there’s quality issues with Samsungs screens with DSE. Lots of them are affected. It’s not good for high end tvs. Plus no Dolby Vision.
I spent months in 2020 comparing TVs, and while the QLEDs were noticeably brighter, the OLEDs were bright enough and seemed to produce a "nicer" image. It's my subjective opinion of course and I'm probably influenced by having come from plasma. I have a GX which I find plenty bright enough. The 2021 OLEDs are even brighter. I'm not sure why anyone would want more unless their viewing room has lot's of windows? Saying we're asleep isn't fair comment.
That’s a very fair and reasonable opinion. Thank you for your words, very fair and nothing abusive haha. I do say throughout the video they are both great and it’s down to personal choices. I also would like to reiterate that reviewing TVs in a shop vs living with the top TVs for 2021 in your home every day. It’s a huge difference. I have the 77” G1 as you can see in the video. It doesn’t touch the QN900A but it does produce a gorgeous image. OLED is great and whichever one you decide on will make you super happy. I do stand by my comment. OLED owners often remind me of very die hard loyal consumers. They don’t give something else a chance. But thanks so much for the viewership and congrats on a banger of a TV! :)
They’d want “more” bc the content was created for more luminance. You’re constantly compromising on OLED, with having to rely so much on tone mapping. Having native high peak brightness makes HDR content come alive, and reveals details in specular highlights that the OLED is going to compress the hell out of. See it all the time on my CX. I get and understand your viewpoint, especially coming from a very dim plasma. But spend a decent time with any quality QLED, and it will definitely open your eyes up, to how HDR content was supposed to be viewed/enjoyed.
Either way. They are the best on offer at the moment. If someone said they was unhappy. I’d find it difficult to believe. I’m a peak brightness guy. Some people prefer the deep rich contrast look. I believe if I didn’t have a history of bright QLEDs, I probably would have gone with OLED for the daily driver.
@@ye-rochawkins5432 specular highlights are what Samsung QLED televisions struggle at and OLED excels at. OLED can make small details glow because of pixel level control, while Samsung is actively dimming specular highlights to keep blacks low as well as reduce blooming.
@@vaxick Clearly you’ve never seen, or spent time with the QN900A. It actually exceeds OLED, even on small windows. It sounds like you’ve watched KICT’s QN90A video, and taken it as this is a fact for all QLED TV’s. I never even brought up Samsung, so why are you btw? And I’m well aware of the benefits of pixel level control/self emissive nature of OLEDs lol. I find it hilarious a lot of you people think you know so much more than others. But really, that pixel level control is OLEDs party trick. They do a great job with small highlights. But once that window grows, it’s game over. You’re fighting the limitations of the tech. And this 100% impacts HDR, especially high APL scenes, and large windows. ABL will drag the APL down, and mute color volume. You can keep believing you OLED is perfect tho. Keep in mind, I daily drive an OLED too right now. But I’m not oblivious to the limitations. Especially in terms of a HDR display. Nobody is claiming QLED is perfect either lmfao. It far from it. But QLED at least gives the HDR impact many of us seek, and the content calls for.
I have the C1 and Series X combo in my room and after watching this comparison I’m so happy with choosing the Oled, personally more drawn to the realism the LG provides, look at the reflection of the sun on the car in Forza at 5:30, the Samsung looks a little too cartoony
Gospel Truth my Friend! I Search for an New Tv 😂 A90J, QN95A , LG C1/G1 i am Playing 90% of the Time! And the Second Reason Samsung got very Good Soundbars to Pair with an New One.. Sonos would be Nice But is it so much Better for the Price ? I dont think so! I think Many People Come from an LCD to Oled and think its to Dim. I Come from a LG B6 to a Q9FN 😂 thats Night and Day in Brightness! Its a Good move from you! I think the LG Hype Train is to Offensive to Not See it 😂 and i Came from Germany, 85% of us Don‘t Play in Pitch Black Rooms!
I can’t be more Agee, I have an Lg oled b8 I really love the blacks , the colors and the contrast no one can beat that until I bought the Sony zh8 , I compared the lg and the Sony head to head and I still think that the contrast is the best on lg but at the moment you watch a movie or play on the Sony the punch of brightness and the vivids colors is more striking that the contrast of the lg I really think that the best technology is Oled but until the technology doesn’t reach to the peak of brightness of a led full array , I definitely I will choose led from Oled
can you also do a pc test with this nobody ever checks to see if the 8k variants have gsync compatible and if it runs 8k @ 60hz and 4k @ 120hz on pc I need to know cause I am looking to purchase an 8k to switch from 4k oled
I read lots of people are having dirty screen effect with the Samsung. It’s a real downer for me. Plus no Dolby Vision. No one cares about HDR10+. Samsung are the only company does not support Dolby Vision. There’s lots of reports coming out that Samsung are going to release OLED tvs again next year. Samsung needs to sort out the quality issues with their tvs of DSE. It's not acceptable for the higher end models. Here's a video of one of the worst case of DSE: czcams.com/video/louoRUd8e_Y/video.html
Can't stand the blooiming and far from black levels on the QLED, which is the reason I returned it and went with the C1. I'm not spending 3K for an LCD TV with some Quantum marketing fluff layer. It might be better than just an LCD, but I can't justify spending that much for a decade old panel technology. The burn in age is gone as the pixel refresher will run for 7 minutes every time you turn the TV OFF. Look at Quantum TV after playing for an year games with HUD. 0 burn in or image retention. OLED is just another class, and that is why Samsung is finally jumping to it next year by buying panels from LG.
People are really missing out on explosive impactful , hdr when they pick oled if they are a gamer you constantly hear about high brightness movies like mad max looking a lot better on high end qled , I don’t think what most people understand that almost all video games are high brightness from resident evil games 2000 nits to all Xbox first party and Sony games supporting 4000 nits to 10000 nits of brightness . Now owning a90j , c1 and qn90a it’s very clear for gaming Samsung is typically far better unless very dark scene in a game which is rare . My c1 I just sold it’s so dim in game especially if you want proper specular highlights you need to turn off tone mapping or the highlights are not impactful they just Bled into the scenes . The oled is great looking tv contrast is great but it just doesn’t match the explosive impactful highlight , of qled especially for gaming .
I was completely convinced on the qn90a, until the end of the video when you could clearly see the brighter/punchy colors in the forest scene on the Oled. Or am I missing something here?
It's weird that my samsung will not let me choose vrr if it's not in game mode. Game mode looks so blurry on my qn900a I was very surprised that I can't change features I want.
I found the OLEDs to be more forgiving. I can’t say for certain but it could be because of the 8K panel. I find the Samsung will show a lot more noise in low quality content. I was watching a TV show in 720p on the QN900A and I could notice a lot of imperfections. I personally believe it’s due to the pixel density. OLED appears to be able to handle it a bit better. On good 1080p content and above the QN900A really shines. I threw a 4K Blu-ray of Sicario at it and it really wowed me. 8K is probably not necessary now but it does make a difference when it upscales quality content. So I guess the answer is OLED appeared better to me with lower quality content. But Samsung really ran away with high quality content. So it really depends on what your most likely to throw at it.
Oh wow. Congrats man. Two fantastic TVs. Either one will make anyone happy. But again, my video really focused on having both every day side by side. Living with them. You can’t compare by just going into a showroom and looking at them. They will never give you an accurate idea of what you will get. Don’t get me wrong. The QN900A upscales well but if I was to compare, I’d say the C1 is better with average and QN900A is better with high quality. But we are splitting hairs :)
@@ILT_AU Appreciate it man,not many people have the Qn900a so i was Wondering how it compares. 1080p and sdr on Qn90a is amazing. I'd recommend the Qn90a for bright room and the C1 for dark room watching, you can't go wrong with either one.
Hi. Great video. My best wishes the channel grows a lot. I am planning to upgrade by 75 inch q7fn 2018 model to above 80 inch tv. Qn 900a is available but only on pre order . Can you give be insight of how it is? Also DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT did you experience it.. I watch lots of sports especially Cricket Football Tennis Athletics All in 1080p And also watch youtube 4k videos mostly . Movies mostly 4k or hdr. I don't play video games. So how does it fare in all these. Is it worth a buy.? Is upscaling good. Was planning between qn900 a , qn 90a and z9j and c1, which are in india above 80 But one connect box I am used to from my old tv so qn900a my preference. Hope you reply soon, will help me decide as you one of rare who has them.
Thank you very much. I have noticed very minimal DSE. The motion on it has improved a lot from prior years. If your going to spend a decent amount on a TV for sports. It’s hard to go past OLED. But OLED for me is too dim. If you don’t play games it’s hard to go past a Sony. They do typically offer the best picture in the top end of their TVs but you don’t get much gaming features so that may suit you. To be honest. Out of the QN900A, C1 or Z9J your going to be happy. If you like Samsung and are happy with them. You won’t be disappointed with the QN900A. The one connect box is such a great addition also.
@@ILT_AU thanks a lot for replying. Actually when spending so much money , better to have the best . Also since you own one , I am sure you are the best judge. SPORTS and MOVIES qn900a and z9j must be same? Have you checked the Z9J.? Ya z9j is available on pre order too but it's not having a 1 connect box on samsung is like a big plus. Had heard a lot - With more local dimming qn900a with better brightness comes closest to oled even better in dome cases is being said. Looking forward to your video review on QN900A overall performance. Because in reality such high end tvs nothing is available on youtube. Also such tvs are rarely on display in showrooms.
I have not seen the Z9J in person so I can’t really comment. I can definitely say the black levels on the QN900A are getting very competitive to OLED. There is blooming but it’s very well controlled
@@ILT_AU thanks a lot for your great feedback. Keep on giving the people more videos from your side about gadgets, as authentic youtubers are rare. Have just pre-ordered QN900A 85 inches. Will take a month to come samsung says. Will definitely let you no my experience with it when I get to watch it. Shortage of SEMI conductor chips , may result in such shortages till 2023.
Wow. Congratulations you will love it! I had to wait 6 months for my TV I ordered it in April believe it or not. Thank you so much. I have already received a lot of hate messages because of my opinion but when someone like yourself tells me to keep doing what I’m doing it really means a lot. Thank you so much. Stay safe!
Hey gamer, why don't you compare forza 5 in hdr modes on both tv? Dolby vision is not good at the moment for gaming only for movies. You managed to shows us forza 5 in c1 in paperwhite disaster
Philips hue gradient light strip for the TV. Then two hue light strips on either side of the TV unit. Also some hue lights on top of my display cabinets on the left and right sides. They all sync for the hue sync box. Then I also have light strips inside the TV units. Check my other video to see how I cut them up to size and installed them. I used a lot of different pieces to make them work off one controller
Wait you're comparing three TVs but only showing two the C1 is different from the G1 right? Also which TV is on what side? Unless the person has the TV they wouldn't know what TV you're talking about
Funny you should ask. I am using Philips hue gradient light strip with a Philips hue sync box. It’s so think and only just fits behind the TV. Also, it doesn’t provide any light for the bottom the TV by design. So you only get light coverage on the top and sides. The OLED I used hue light strips cut to size so it’s full coverage.
@@ILT_AU I have the same philips gradient light. Which wall mount are you using? They are coming to install my tv tomorrow and I’m kinda nervous because the slim mounts don’t allow enough room for the hue gradient to fit. I measured the thickness of the bias light strip and it’s about 1 inch thick.
@@ILT_AU I’m between something like the one in this link which has a 3cm gap which is just enough for the hue gradient to fit, and a slim articulating one that allows me to tilt to avoid the glare of my overhead lights. Decisions decisions lol.
I found with this bracket there is a very subtle downward tilt. Could just be my imagination but I’ve heard negative things about large screen TVs with adjustable wall mounting brackets. Keep it simple and strong.
I can't stand the glare on LG Oleds. Ruins the experience for me. Love my QLED. Shame it doesn't have Dolby Vision, but I can live with that. Glare I can not!
Hi sir, in my country my only good options are between a 48" LG C1 or a 55" Sony X90j. They dont sell the QN900/TCL/Hisense series here thus my options are pretty limited. Would you recommend me to get the smaller OLED or the larger X90j? The sony is 70usd cheaper. but, about the same price point. It's going to be placed in my bedroom, and used mainly for casual story/open world games on my ps5. I will also use it for some netflix. The thing making me think twice on getting the OLED is that there are friends who advised me on getting a larger TV as it would be more immersive. I'm not particularly worried about burn in as I would only use my tv about 3/4hours a day, maybe more on weekends? and i think the newer playstation games have features that would help prevent screen burn in, like healthbars and stuff disappearing on screen when not in combat. I have however heard very mixed reviews on the x90j. Some mentioned that the picture quality is comparable to the C1, while others absolutely trashed the x90j which got me, as a consumer with little knowledge in this, so very confused. Looking for some advise. Do you think OLED> larger screen for better casual gaming/movie experience in a dim room?(there will be some ambient light turned on)
No larger screens is generally better imo however. For gaming. OLED over a Sony LED LCD. That’s coming from someone who prefers led lcd TVs. If you had a xbox sx then even more reason to get the OLED. Sony TVs aren’t gamer friendly.
Why can't I use the same logic you're using here? I mean I could also say that you're on the qled hype train. It's not a hype, oled is objectively the better technology. People should just know in advance what conditions they're going to use their tvs before purchasing.
Its been said that Oled is not bright enough to take advantage of HDR but I mostly play in a Dark Room so I don’t need Tv to be so bright but since Oled can get Burn In,I wouldn’t recommend it for Gaming
Thus channel gonna blow up. Great work.
Thank you
Great video. I've had Samsung QLEDs for years. I also have a OLED CX in my bedroom and its AMAZING for nighttime movie watching. I play a lot of games with huds and burn in has always been in the back of my mind, which is why I stick with QLED. For me, its worth the sacrifice of some dark room performance for the peace of mind. I have a Q90R now and it does incredibly well with dark scenes, my QN900A comes next week...can't wait to see the improvements made with mini LED.
You are going to be so happy with the QN900A.
Congratulations!!
@@new_world_order_ What do you mean quantum TV is making it uncomfortable for you to purchase a television?
I’m no calibrator. I don’t claim to be.
Quantum knows his sh1t.
I’m simply reviewing from a “how a TV makes me feel” angle.
So I don’t claim to be a professional. Just providing my opinion.
I chose the QN90A over the LG C1. I watched and reviewed many. I thought the QN90A had the best PQ, longevity, features, and its versatility in any environment and any content. The QN90A doesn't need Dolby Vision; Samsung's Neo Vision does just as good. I only need only one port for gaming. Contrast is important, but so is brightness and color volume.
Does it have some blooming... yes. On a full moon with clear skies, the moon blooms, too, lol.
Hahaha well I tend to agree but most don’t :D
from whatever perspective you see it oled>lcd(with all fancy name included QLED Nano cell etc). lcd it may have some pros over oled but in my opinion oled is the superior panel. with that being said i hope you enjoy your tv still a great option
@@sotosioannou6979 definitely your opinion and I respect that. I remain in the middle.
I am uniquely positioned to own both. When you live with them every day. You open your perspective to different pros and cons.
@@ILT_AU happy for you mate. I would love to have them both but i can only get one. c1 was the one on sale at bf so i chose c1. Also is for my bedroom so the better brightness of QN90A is useless for me :P
MY 50INCH QN94A COMING WITHIN A DAY OR 2 FOR ONLY £800 , THOSE OLEDS LOOKS SO DIM IF THEY WERE A CAR COLOR THEY WOULD TAN COLOR
OLED fans only watch space movies, and allways in a dark room for some reason. I prefer to use my tv for any content at any time so I got a QE75QN95 and don't think it's that bad, but that is just me.
Amazing production value for the amount of subscribers you have. Well done good sir.
Thank you so much.
OLED & QLED trade equal blows and like you said if you're not looking for it you don't notice it during use.
They are truly best depending on what environment you are watching it in.
Got a sunny living room? Definitely get a QLED but if you watch or game in like say a basement home theather or bedroom at night get an OLED.
Im lucky to own both the C1 and qn900a. They are both great. But in my opinion . I still lean towards the C1. Detail is more noticeable regardless its still only 4k, its because of the contrast ratio, yeah my samsung is brighter, but the contrast levels are unreal, popping out the images on my C1. Trust me I own both TVs. Go Oled. Qled not far behind though. Get qled if you have a bright room. Just my humble opinion.
Great comment. Definitely agree. It’s a close call.
Love the content! I had 2 Samsung QLED - first one had 4 dead pixels out of the box, second one (the replacement) had 7 dead pixels! For this reason alone I purchased the LG G1 65”. No complaints now.
G1 is a great TV. Well don’t.
What Samsung did you have issues with?
@@ILT_AU Can you do a update on testing if you have DSE like this czcams.com/video/louoRUd8e_Y/video.html
Broooo my second neo qled qn90a has dead pixels , I think I’m going to pickup 65c1 today it’s soooo annoying I really loved the qled
If you value your eyes go with OLED, it wont hurt you in the future the way QLED does. But that Qled does look beautiful in a bright room!!
Got rid of my qled 8fn for a c1. I miss the brightness of the qled but my eyes don’t hurt anymore. The blue light from qled was brutal
Great video man and I agree with everything you just said! I own both qled and OLED. I had first bought the qled (q90t) and was going nuts on forums and CZcams videos with ppl saying how OLED was just better (it is absolutely in certain areas and vice versa) than qled. I had a serious case of fomo and couldn't resist so I bought an c1 to replace my ultrawide monitor. I just had to see what the hype was all about.
I love the c1 for sure. The contrast is amazing and the blacks are jaw dropping. But it's HDR brightness compared to the q90t is not so good like you said. I wish the OLED was a little brighter. Again like you said if you don't have em side by side it's tough to really compare!
I also find sdr content like the switch to be better on the qled.
Mind that for gaming sure you will see the difference in brightness in movies not so much as majority of movies HDR was set to peak 1000 nits. You won’t see 100-200 nits difference, you need double to notice it hence brighter Qleds don’t bring anything here. Color volume on the other hand you will notice, Qleds having it better but ultimately perceived contrast will make OLED more pleasing.
@@whitecrowuk575 my qled is right next to a window. Even with direct sunlight it's able to keep up. My OLED though not so much. Can't see anything. And that is with watching anything. So I have my OLED far from any window.
As for gaming, I've been playing spiderman remastered on the ps5 with OLED and decided to switch to my qled. Holy hell the difference on those day scenes was staggering. Webslinging just became so much more fun on the qled
The QN900A can peak past 2000+ nits.
I’ve heard from a well known calibrator that it can pass 3000 nits.
So there is a significant difference
@@ILT_AU You can appreciate that in games and few odd movies that been mastered to 4000 nits majority though is done at 1000 peak unless you use tone mapping
@@ILT_AU isn't that much brightness an overkill as it will wash out the colors?
I was just returning Samsung QN95A 75" yesterday. Faulty TV, terrible blooming, crazy DSE, jail bars or vertical lines on TV, sound and picture dropping out, flickering when playing the Xbox Series X on 120hz. Getting my first Oled ever tomorrow instead. LG C1 😁
This is exactly the video I was looking for.....
Thank you.
DSE and Blooming just drove me towards getting a Sony A80j a few weeks ago and the clarity and contrast on OLED just blows me away every time I turn the TV on. I'm a little worried about burn in but the trade-off is worth it, pixel level control makes hdr really pop, full array just can't compete, for example when you have stars in the night sky on a QLED the detail in the stars are lost as the dimming algorithm tries to keep the blacks dark.
I know it's not as bright but as long as you are able to control the light in the room OLED wins hands down. In a dark room I find it gets too bright for comfort and need to turn the brightness down.
If you are in a room with alot of ambiant light then don't get an OLED you will be very disappointed.
It's refreshing to see someone not jumping on the Oled hype. They are undeniably stunning but for my use case I chose the X95J. I game but not hardcore fast moving multilayer or shooters, so I can see why you didn't go Sony. Vrr is not important to me and I am concerned about the inevitable degradation of oled from static images. Wouldn't feel comfortable playing zelda botw for hundreds of hours etc. Picture quality, upscaling and 4k at 60 is the reason I chose the way I did. Your place looks great and glad to see you enjoy the results of your build and getting your place together.
Thank you so much.
Yeah I definitely feel that everyone kind of just gets on the wagon and no one really gives LED LCD TVs a go for gaming.
Day to day I find my OLED dull, I know over time it will only get worse.
Nice TV man. Congratulations that’s a solid choice.
I just didn’t like Sony because of their lack of gaming features. When it comes to movies. They usually dominate.
There is zero comparison here. The OLED is far and away superior to not only watching tv but gaming. OLED has 4x hdmi 2.1 and has no blooming, has superior black level and infinite contrast. Superior response time. QLED advantage is the brightness but it has just 1x hdmi 2.1 and has no Dolby Vision, and the worst thing about it is that all LED have DSE dirty screen effect and the Samsung QLED are awful with this. OLED has lower brightness but the contrast is unmatched and no blooming. If your advantage for going QLED is windows and brightness that is not a better tv, that is just a compromise. Nobody should buy a QLED for gaming not in 2021
DSE, FALD grid patterns, noticeable zone transitions, and the rather blurry motion(due to slower pixel response) was ultimately the deal breaker for me with QLED, and why I finally went OLED. I’m glad I did too. However, I’m still wanting more. And I do still think it’s the objectively superior tech. However, not without it’s limitations.
I’m also just a huge fan of Quantum Dot color and that brightness. On LG OLEDs, my eyes just cannot unsee the white subpixel dilution. It’s a real shame.
I don’t agree with “nobody should buy QLED for gaming in 2021” tho. That’s just a bad take imo. QLEDs can be amazing for gaming, and much more impactful. Especially for those bright and colorful games, where OLED just reaches it’s limits. It really all depends on your use case, and what you like.
@@ye-rochawkins5432 yeah the motion sickness with leds is terrible. Oled all the way
The QN900A has 4 x HDMI 2.1 ports.
Have you owned a QN900A, have you spent more than 15 mins with one?
Lived with one?
Lived with an G1 and a C1 in the next room?
There is a major difference.
@Waka - I actually like all of them for different reasons.
I guess the point of my video was that I am living with all 3.
Also that I’m just being honest about which one I tend to gravitate toward naturally.
Which is at this stage the QN900A.
I’ve been playing Halo Infinite on xbox with a keyboard and mouse. 120FPS on the Samsung feels like a PC.
Everyone is saying things like OLED pixel response times and so on.
Yes. Facts are facts.
But I really feel like people missed the point of the video.
You want facts. Go to HDTVTest. He is the king.
This was just a video to say I feel a lot of people write qled off because of all the hype of OLED.
OLED is popular for good reason but I’m fortunate enough to have all the top TVs in one home.
As far as I’m aware. No one else on CZcams does.
So day to day I do naturally gravitate towards the QN900A with its flaws and all.
It seems no one took the point of the video.
They are all sick TVs.
@@ILT_AU nice. I lean more towards the oled as it has better motion. Also I can't stand the backlight on leds, hurts my eyes. Guess I'll need to experience them all to make a judgment.
Fantastic video.
QN900A REVIEW please .
Please let me know anything specific you would like me to cover
@@ILT_AU
A review of -
overall performance movie watching experience.
Netflix hdr resolution content is very bad on most tvs. How is it here , vibrancy their do colours pop out to give a great show.
How is the processor does the upgradation really work from 1080p to 4k and 4k to 8k.
How is Fast moving objects motion smooth.
@@ILT_AU hi how are you . Hope you and family fine.
I got my qn900a.
Fantastic set.
But unfortunately it's got DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT.
Especially when watching sports green fields lots of banding , grey areas etc.
Have reported to samsung .
Did you notice any DSE on yours .?
Maybe I’m lucky but I have no DSE on my set.
That’s really a sucky thing to happen. Sorry to hear that.
It’s the same with OLED and QLED.
There is definitely a panel lottery.
@@ILT_AU thanks for replying.
Ya actually have put up the case and engineer's visited.
They dint know this type of problem exsisted, but we're happy I reported as it will help them in future .
SAMSUNG INDIA is looking into it as never has been reported but higher executives in country no about this it's happening a lit in USA AND EUROPE especially from 2019.
Before that panels they say were better and SAMSUNG quality control was much better and equal to SONY.
SONY has a special branch which dosent allow such faulty panels to be cleared.
Now I am little apprehensive should I replace this set or take my money n never touch SAMSUNG again.
Because no guarantee the new set will be fine.
Have told samsung if they can provide a no DIRT SCREEN EFFECT replacement I will take or let's see SONY Z9J or wait for next year.
My q7fn 2018 75 inch model was crystal clean panel.
85 inches clean panels is what looking for .
OLED I feel still have better chances of not having DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT .
What would u have done .?
Does calibrating a tv help in removing .
I doubt any calibrators in india.
Hi mate. Great review thx for putting in the effort. I owned a c8 it was great for watching movies in the dark. Upgraded to a qn95a this year. For movie watching I slightly prefer the oleds image. However when it comes to gaming the qn95a is like a revelation: the picture becomes alive whereas the oleds picture seems flat and dull by comparison. So as gaming to me is really important it's the qn95a for me especially considering that dark room performance is so close to oled
That’s exactly how I feel.
That’s awesome. Great TV too. Congratulations.
I think a lot of people miss that point where I said I’m a gamer first. So it’s just my personal preference.
Doesn’t mean I’m right.
But at least it’s good to know others feel the same way
@@ILT_AU still you are the lucky one here since you own both) living the dream)
It comes at a price :) haha.
But yeah I’m definitely very grateful.
Once you throw movies into the equation OLED is a hands down winner. You may disagree that's fine but when you get actual blacks vs greys it is so much better. And I don't have a q900 Samsung but I do have a q70 from 2019 and a cx. The cx is in the basement and the Samsung is in the living room
Vividness is the number one TV selling metric for non enthusiasts, and Samsung knows this better than any other manufacturer. People usually don't want what would be considered best, they want wow factor and that's what makes having options great!
Yeah but the oleds look more vivid that the qleds for sure. It's mostly because the qleds wash out the picture due to the extreme brightness and also the higher contrast on the oleds.
Thank you for this comparison with gaming in mind specifically. I’ve gamed on Samsung for 11 years now and didn’t know if OLED was worth switching to LG. After watching your video I think I might like the over-the-top brightness and extravagant colors of QLED more. Part of playing games for me is getting away from the real world that OLED seems to be able to replicate better. Thanks
As I said several times. It’s really personal preference. Both are great but some of us like the juicy QLED colours and massive peak brightness.
I also bought a QLED last week, and think the oled hype is a bit biased too, the bright HDR is supernice on QLED. Oled has superior contrast but I miss the HDR high nit the qled has. Light comes into my house alot so Oled is just not working for me. The new q75 q85 q95 QLEDs have ultra dimming which makes it even harder to detect the blooming. On another note: Samsung is going to do QD OLED next (Best of both worlds, 2 layers) probably going to be crazy expensive though. I will stick with my QLED for now.
This is my new favourite review channel. Its about time someone told it how it really is. I wanna love oled, but in my front room...youve just sold me back to samsung!
Thanks man. I really appreciate that. I just give my honest opinions. That’s all.
I did take a lot of hate for this video.
@@ILT_AU You will do. Ive been banned from more tv sites than I care to mention just for suggesting that oled MIGHT NOT be the best tv you can get!
I often get shocked at how protective people are about their OLED.
It reminds me of Samsung vs Apple hack in the days. People would get so angry lol.
They are all good it’s just personal taste.
If you have a bright front room. Samsung QLED all day my man!
Great review! I appreciate technology all together. I've actually become a mini LED fan since I've been introduced to oled. While I still appreciate OLED TVs, I can't ignore how much Samsung has improved.
Thank you for the comment.
Can’t deny OLED but I think people definitely overlook the premium mini-led offerings.
Taking price into consideration the Lg is $1000 cheaper and that makes it a no brainer. This Samsung is not worth that high price tag
I dont agree, but im biased as i got a c1 few weeks ago. Good video anyhow, nice setup you got there.
Congrats. C1 is a great TV.
I can totally understand why your saying what your saying. You won’t be disappointed with the C1.
What size did you get?
@@ILT_AU i got the 65 inch. In sweden, its currently on sale. The c1 cost 200-300$ less than the samsung qn90a 65 inch. I got the c1 also for the weird reason to not enjoy my gaming during the brightness of day. Since im a compulsive gamer and need to do other irl stuff, with the c1 in a bright livingroom. Im confided to game at sundown.
Yeah that’s the major issue I had with the C1. The brightness wasn’t even close to the Samsung.
However I do feel the C1 was a bit smoother in its frames but there’s no perfect TV.
But again. Congratulations on a great TV you will be so happy!
Breath of fresh air, this video is. As someone who has been on the "HDR is the greatest TV innovation since HD was introduced 20 years ago" bandwagon, this video validated me.
The Samsung Q90A and mini LEDs in general are a turning point. Black levels good enough for a dark room, yet enough brightness to do HDR justice. Add on HDMI 2.1 that pretty much is bug free (finally) and it's time to retire that 12 year old 1080p display!
Thank you. The honest opinion about Dolby Vision and HDR10+ not adding much when you have a light cannon of a display helps also!
A lot of people are angry at me for saying these terrible things haha.
But I’m being honest and that’s all I can do.
Thank you for a great comment.
And congratulations on a sick TV!
@@ILT_AU I went through all this many years ago with Plasma and LCD. Always put Plasma in the dark rooms and LCD in rooms with ambient light. But that was before HDR. Now brightness is king and OLED just doesn't have what it takes. Dark room or bright room. Let the haters hate.
Haters gonna hate!
HDR Boys!
Great video I have a 65” QN900A I love it!!!
Congratulations great TV.
You must be really enjoying the crazy good picture quality.
Wont lie i used to be a QLED Samsung head for 15 yrs. Got my 1st 77" LG GX n i cant go back. Its not as bright as Qled but i like my eyeballs. Samsung prices r 2 high & they are asleep @ the wheel.
Nice jab 👍
I needed to see this. You should ad something to the title about brightness. I've searched "are oleds really dim" which only finds c1 reviews... I was about to order a 65" C1. Now back to deciding between x90j and qn90a
That’s a great suggestion. Thank you.
If your not into gaming and want an OLED you can score a good deal on the outgoing a90j.
@@ILT_AU definitely a gamer. Gran Tourismo 7 has a lot to do with my tv purchase. 🏎️🏎️🏎️
Yeah I hear you man. Do you have a size / budget?
I bought the C1 while ago, I was building a mancave to my basement but it wasnt ready yet, so put the TV into our livingroom which has windows at all sides. It can be a problem when day light fills the room. I think you should consider the purpose of the TV before buying. I bet you wouldnt really be disappointed with either. Now C1 is in the basement mounted in a wall with pretty much zero light coming outside, and It comes alive.
Precisely.
It’s hard to beat an OLED in a dark room.
Hello Layman's Terms. 👋🏼. Cool video. Sending my respect from the UK. 🇬🇧 also a knew subscriber to your interesting channel. Currently I own a 65inch LG G1 & I'm amazed by the quality & colours of this TV. I've been down that LED/LCD Road, & once I tried oled, I'd never go back! But that's me. My choice. No one else's. I'm really glad you're enjoying your Samsung TV, because its an excellent TV! If you enjoy it more, that's absolutely awesome. Because that's your choice, no one else's. I'm glad you've tried out these awesome oleds aswel. One Question my fellow gamer, why does that grass on that Samsung look like its glowing green?? Because on that oled, the grass looks green. 🤷♂️ One last question, where did you purchase those awesome LED lights from?? Thank you! Stay safe & well. 🙏🏼
Samsung generally shoes more saturation in colours. I like it in games.
Congratulations on your new TV
I’ll actually do a video next on the lighting I’m using in my room.
Behind the TV I’m using a Philips hue gradient light strip :)
This video as just made my mind up neo qled thank you
No problems my man.
Keep in mind they both have strong points. I often switch between and really enjoy both. You can’t go wrong.
I'm scared of burn in on the screen so neo qled is for me
I've gone an bought the samsung s95b qd oled it looked awesome
I have both the U8G and QN90A and they are pretty close.
You should spent some time with the Sony A90J. The heatsink and Sonys tonemapping is doing magic.
So much this. I mod a Bravia group on Facebook so we get a lot of feedback. You can't even compare the a90j to other OLEDs even the a80j. As soon as I saw they were going with the LG OLED I knew how this would turn out. I'd take my a90j over any TV on the planet, but realistically I'd take that Samsung over any other OLED.
By the video alone, the QLED looks like the Fortnite of TVs with oversaturated colors and a lot of pop. I get why this appeals to many people.
EXACTLY! Saturation and pop is NOT ACCURATE. Go out into the world, what colours absolutely destroy your retinas? Nothing but the sun. Simple.
@@supremetaaanxz2241 Who cares what's accurate? If someone is more happy watching oversaturated colors every day, who are _you_ to say they're wrong?
Also, you haven't got a clue what the world looks like through another human being's eyes. None of us can ever know that.
@@davecarsley8773 wait really? Is that really your analogy? And the guy who owns and runs this channel likes your comment? I haven’t got a clue what the world looks like through another humans eyes yet standards like 20/20 vision and TVs can be calibrated through a camera which recognises accurate colours? Directors master content using mastering monitors which are accurate yet you come with generic moronic things like that? And again the person who owns this channel LIKES YOUR COMMENT? Ok, I’m done. I made a point, based off fact, and now I’m just getting biased bullshit. Ur all a joke.
Everyone is different man.
And that is ok, some people prefer the artificial look.
I guess you just gotta go with suits you the best and I respect that.
LCD for games, Got it. PS, the game makers never really allow games to go full black anyway, play some that "fade to black" on an OLED, they never reach it, they only fade to gray.
Either way. One would be happy. But HDR gaming. QLED wins my heart :)
I have LG CX but I don’t trust it since Im trying to avoid Burn In so I bought a Gaming Monitor with HDMI 2.1 4K 144hz but if you’re going to get a Tv for Gaming I wouldn’t advise Oled but Qled or LCD would be better but I would Oled does makes Games look all look amazing
Finally a real non-biased review. No technology is perfect so pick your poison I think most people watch more bright scenes than dark scenes so brightness in bright scenes is more important to me than blooming in dark scenes. Like someone mentioned I am not watching stars fields and fireworks all day. The brightness of the Samsung is no match to the OLEDs which would give me a much better viewing experience.
Yeah about the brightness, I upgrade my x900e49” 2017 midrange tv to the C1 48” couple weeks now , yes my Sony tv is more brightness and sometimes can hit 1000nits but the contrast on the C1 is so good and for me and I focus more gaming I prefer the C1 4K 120fps Dolby vision 1ms pixel refresh 4ms input lag beautiful contrast and 48” not too big I love it , btw the Samsung is beautiful tv too you can’t go wrong with any of those 2 TVs
Dolby vision isn’t that big of a deal. I don’t miss it when I go into the next room.
The C1 is a fantastic TV but my point was that when you have something to compare it too, every day, It’s a very different thing.
The c900e was a very old TV of course a 2021 OLED will smoke it.
Either way. OLED. QLED. You will be happy :)
Congrats on the new TV
I have both LG C1 77” and Samsung QN 9A 65” (which is even a better TV in terms of brightness/black uniformity than the Q900A per reviews). The C1 image quality is just perfect. There is no dispute here. The Samsung comes close, but I can’t help but notice the ever so slightly blooming effects around white objects on the screen. It’s subtle but it’s there if you are used to the perfect contrast from the C1 you will notice it. I have to give it to Samsung for the brightness though it is very noticeable brighter in bright scenes. Overall, the C1 is still a better TV due to its superior image quality the Samsung can’t match.
I guess going off what you hear and owning one is a little different. But I respect your comment and agree to a point.
I agree the C1 has a better image quality however the Samsung has more eye catching pop.
On the LGc1 there's a secret menu for picture. You can make the LGC1 bright as the QLED. Btw OLED is the winner
How do I make my C1 hit over 2500 nits?
@@ILT_AU all settings/leave cursor on picture select mode and press 1113111.
Then what?
Change colorimetry to bt709 ... I meant to say more colorful. It looks better. Love ur vids
Ok I’ll give it a try. Thanks man.
I do have a OLED and the QN900A.. and the HDR in games is ridiculous.. I prefer it for games. Makes them come alive.. after a day with the mini-led.. the OLED looks like there's something wrong with it because of how low nit it is.. but honestly.. you can't go wrong either way
Well said.
Do you also find the OLED dim for movies? I have a GX and find it plenty bright enough but I don't do any gaming.
Again it’s very difficult to explain in words.
My video was explaining that living with the two TVs it’s a very big difference.
The GX is nice but I find it doesn’t have the punch a QLED does.
It’s contrast is what helps a lot with HDR.
I guess you think it’s plenty bright until you get a bright TV. Then you understand
I have the Qn90a and the c1 and most games looks better on Qn90a except for dark scenes.
It’s difficult to beat an OLED at anything dark :)
Personally i want lgc1. I want lowest latency. Vrr, and best picture quality. Samsung is better with the picture imo. And sony x90j is a great lcd and looks awesome but lg is the way
I got a LG C1 in the living room and last year's Sony 900H in a bedroom. Yep LG C1 is a great tv with all the gaming features with all 4 HDMI ports supports 2.1. I did not get a Samsung due to 2 big reasons. There are lots of users of Samsung tvs that reporting to have DSE issues like this video czcams.com/video/louoRUd8e_Y/video.html . That is not acceptable for a high end tv. Plus no Dolby Vision as Samsung are the only company not supporting it.
@@therider04 i think Samsung is overpriced. But the thing is when you buy a Samsung at least you know your tv is gonna do its job. But personally i had to say no to Samsung this time. I was at best buy and it said " xbox series x" ready. Or some crazy stuff. But then i seen sony x90j and it looked good. But i should have just went oled. First off i never had an oled. Secondly the lg has all the gaming features i wanted! But if sony doesn't get vrr. Within 2 more months im buyin lg
@@loitersquadX Sony released the VRR on last years 900H. I tried it and don't like it. It turns off the local dimming. Make the picture look bad. I leave VRR off when I game on this tv.
@@therider04 damn yeah well if it does that on mine and they don't fix it😂 im gettin c1 asap! Im already saving money for it
Every time I think I moved on from QLED, a video like this gets recommended to me.
I saw how the colors can be overblown in some games and to me that is annoying as you lose some detail in the picture. However I would be lying If I said that I’m not keeping the QN90A in my mind in my upcoming purchase. I would love to see how Samsh Ultimate would look like on a top tier QLED.
Super smash bros ultimate?
Super smash bros ultimate?
I’m living with 2 of the best OLEDs and the QLED.
I keep going back to the QLED for games.
@@ILT_AU Yup, Super Smash Ultimate. The game is so colorful on my low tier LG 2012 TV. So I really wonder what can a top tier 2021 TV can do with that game 👍
Also I promise you that the QN90A is living rent free in my mind. It’s just that the faster pixel refresh rate plus the input lag that LG have are too tempting. Yet how colorful and bright a QLED can get will surely be a great experience in person. I’m still torn between the two TVs.
I’ll get a copy and make a video for you.
As I said. I have the C/G1 and QN900A.
I game on both.
Both do 120FPS with VRR + HDR.
Unless your a robot. I can’t see any difference in the refresh rates.
In fact. I was playing Halo infinite on the QN900A with a keyboard and mouse in 120FPS.
The movement from the mouse and the screen was in perfect sync. No lag. I was blown away.
Don’t get me wrong OLED is awesome too. But again in the video I mention it’s not about cherry picking specs from a spec sheet.
It’s how it made me feel.
I couldn’t tell any difference in terms of input lag / display lag between all 3 TVs.
All I know is I kept going back to the QLED like a toxic ex girlfriend. You know you shouldn’t but you can’t stop!
@@ILT_AU Lol, also you really don’t have to if you don’t want to buy it. but I’d definitely appreciate it. The matter of buying a TV is better while looking at those TVs in person in a showroom or something, so that us consumers can make an eye test that doesn’t get manipulated by all that techie stuff in regards to CZcams, and how there are limitations with the Camera recording the footage and how CZcams convert the video so that it doesn’t look like exactly like real life viewing. I’ll keep thinking about what to get for a while, but it’s fine to me as I’m not in a hurry 👍
I use a Philips Oled and its definitely brighter than LG even though it uses an LG panel.
I also have a Hisense U8QF (EU model) and the brightness on that is incredible. I like both.
What model of Philips oled do you have? I'm choosing between a LG C1 and a Philips 806 both in 48''. Are you sure the Philips is actually brighter?
@@lizaandersson7738........ I came from an LG Oled. It was an older 1080p model but it suffered from severe ABL. And I believe the C1 is the same.
Absolutely no such issue with my Philips Oled 705 65 inch. (€1299 in Ireland) That's an absolute bargain.
The only thing I don't like is the pixel shift which is quite noticeable.
You can see the bezel getting bigger each side from time to time.
However, I'd much prefer that to the abl on LG TV's.
@@chilly6470 Thank you for your reply. That’s interesting, its a bit harder to find info on the Philips than the LG sadly. I feel like the LG also is more prone to have black crush from what ive seen. One thing that makes me hesitate to get the Philips is the software tho, i’ve seen some reviews mention that it is quite buggy and Philips is slow to fix it in updates…
@@lizaandersson7738.....You're welcome.
Philips are quite slow with software updates alright.
I'm completely happy with mine though.
As long as I can watch netflix, watch TV and play games, I'm happy.
And it looks great doing most of those things.
The Ambilight is the icing on the cake.
Thanks for this bro!
Your welcome :)
Just subscribed too!
Thank you very much :)
I plan to bring more content very soon.
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Really love the way QN900A looks, I was real close to buying a 77” C1 but feel the overall brightness is starting to bother me.
QN900A looks amazingly bright and I love that, while it doesn’t have the accuracy or contrast of an Oled I’m still leaning towards the 8K Samsung.
What are your thoughts on
77” C1 or 75” QN800A / QN900A
I love both. I just feel people give OLED too much love.
If I had to make a choice. It would be the QN900A.
It’s so bright and the colours are so full. It’s a great TV.
I really do love the OLED also. If it could get over 2000 nits. It wouldn’t be a question.
Thanks for the sub also
Your so right, oled is the superior tv but it’s really only dracula tech. Any sunlight and it’s advantages go up in flames.Working from home due to covid I sold my oled as it was so underwhelming due to poor full screen brightness. Excellent contrast and reality but unless it’s pitch black your a spectator not a participator. Most reviewers do their opinion pieces in pitch black rooms for a reason. When oled can push the nits of a led I’m all in and will never look back but the blooming and reduced dimensionality is a small price to pay for immersion and impact. I’m not a Samsung fanboy they are just the best at the moment for blacks, contrast and immersion so I purchased the qn800b 85 inch and am absolutely remorseless.
Well said. Congrats on the new purchase.
I agree with everything you just said.
Somthing to be noted: Blooming on the mini LED is much more noticeable at lower screen size
Love the couch! Can you tell me where you got it from? Thanks. 👍
Thank you. It’s from a brand called Nick Scali
Great video,very informed,finaly someone speaks the truth,I have the qn900a 8k for my living room and it's fantastic,I have the lg gx oled for my bedroom,its awesome,so both technologies are great but oled is not last long
I just don’t like how OLED slowly diminishes over time. That to me is a joke
@@ILT_AU You would need like 50.000 hours to notice some decrease in brightness. My C9 is over two years old and pristine as day1.
I have a Sony tv right now and am currently waiting for my Samsung QLED to come in (My currently Sony TV lacked functions which is why I wanted to try a different brand).
Personally, I've seen LG OLED in stores and I was never blown away by them. The blacks are nice, but something about the color just seemed to lack. I opted for Samsung mainly because it's brighter. I usually have a well lit room so that seemed to fit my needs. I am hoping I made the right choice.
Thanks for the video. It seems to all come down to preference at this point.
Well said. Thank you for the comment!
Consoles don't use Freesync..they use HDMI Forum VRR
Also ALLM is soo overhyped..it literally takes a second to switch to game mode using the remote....
Local dimming and black levels take a huge hit on LCD'S game mode.....
You forget most if not all Oled owners have come from LCD'S/ Plasma's and specifically Samsung TV'S before LG took production of Oled
I have not seen one reviewer who only does oled tvs either. They give high remarks to tcl and Hisense led TV's. I don't get the so called oled bias.
@@mostmost1 very true...and as we speak you can literally buy a 65" C1 for less than half the cost of a 65" qn900a
@@mrwalker6026 So long story short you’re saying it’s better to game on a OLED???
@@mrwalker6026 Please Respond & Be More Specific. I Really Appreciate It 🙏🏼
I disagree.
I’m saying it’s personal preference but I prefer a high end LED LCD TV.
Have to say that for me the most important factor is that a tv is not too bright. Got fairly sensitive and very dry eyes, and every time after gaming on my 2019 Q70 my eyes are just burning even after toning down the brightness as much as possible without ruining image quality completely. Not a fanboy of LG or OLED since I’ve never owned either, but just ordered a C1, hoping it’ll be easier on my eyes. My Q70 also has the worst ghosting and brightness fluctuations I’ve ever seen and Samsung just says no fix is available, so definitely no Samsung for gaming ever again 🙄
That’s certainly a fair point.
I actually had a friend gaming on the QN900A for a few hours and he said the same thing.
I actually dialled down to a dimmer picture setting and he loved it after that.
In terms of your ghosting. You gotta keep in mind that is a low tier TV
When your at the top tier. No issues like that.
Also a C1 is a pretty high TV to compare to a Q70. It’s not a very apples to apples comparison.
I wouldn’t write any brand off IMO. That’s just asking for regret :)
Yeah totally true, altho apparently Samsung failed the whole 2019 lineup with gamemode ghosting, since the same complaints and CZcams-videos are all over the place of several models including Q90. Left me with a bitterish taste of ”well, oops, but here take a look of our newer models”. Hopefully nothing similar happens again :)
This is also true.
Definitely nothing like that this generation.
Congrats on the C1. Banger of a TV
The fact that you had to make this video lets me know who's winning
Great video brother 👊. Nice overview on these TV's. Yes OLED is awesome and the best you can get for gaming. I had got the G1 65 inch. One of the main reasons why I bought it it's just the way it looks so sleek and sexy. Plus it was the right choice for me for gaming and movies. Samsung looks incredible I've seen them at Best buy mini LED q90a. This is the first time they're doing it so the technology could be a little twitchy reliability maybe an issue since it is the first year of these mini LED televisions. Just subscribe great channel 👍👊
Thank you so much. Great comment. You disagree with what I said but you said it in a very constructive manner.
I really appreciate it. I’ve been getting jammed with hate comments about this video.
And congratulations on your incredible TV you will be so happy!
@@ILT_AU yes no problem brother. Yes I did people shouldn't jam you with all hate comments. But hey it's bring the action to this video. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I do agree that OLEDS will never touch LEad brightness and I must say I do love having a nice bright TV. But you cannot have the best of both worlds. Your video got alot of hits which is 👍. Well definitely build up momentum your channel. Man I wish I had an Xbox series x. Do you have an extra one I can buy from you lol 😆
People get very defensive when it comes to their TVs lol.
Just jump on twitter. There are heaps of stock alert bots that ping you as soon as stock is online.
That’s how I managed to get mine.
Just make sure you know what sites the bot is monitoring. Make sure your account is setup and payment details are saved.
I find usually once an alert goes off you have about 30 seconds to pay.
So you can’t be messin’ around :)
@@ILT_AU yes they sure do. I don't get defensive at all but I will if people are talking crap against OLEDs 🙂. Thanks buddy I definitely have to check that out. Happy Thanksgiving
Same to you. Happy Thanksgiving.
Don’t know about the QN900A but the QN95A has horrible colour accuracy in game mode which can’t be changed. For me accuracy in all modes is key. I want the game/movie to look how the creator intended it to look.
Was looking at getting a QN95A , X90J or a X95J as I wanted to step away from oleds for gaming and sports purposes (banners and huds) Currently testing out the X90J and colour accuracy is excellent so far.
It is quite simple really. If you have a right room use a LED LCD panel. If you room is darker OLED is better.
OLED will get dimmer over time because it is an organic display much like Plasmas were. If if ppl are going for the best then they will choose a newer TV before this is an issue.
Very often the LED LCD that are very good cost more than the C1 so there is a compromise as with anything.
If more brightness is required then persons should get a Sony master class OLED which is brighter than the C1 or the Panasonic model if they live in the UK. Noth of those are very picture accurate out of the box and need no tweaking at all.
Hi good video! I'm in Australia, may I enquire what size you have got for the LG C1 (is it 77inch?) And also the Samsung (is it 75inch)? Also how do you find the G1 compared to C1 in terms of viewing n living room and sunlight glare? Also what mount do you recommend for the C1. I just purchased the C1 77inch and Samsung qn800a 75 inch during black Friday sales. Appreciate your work! Thanks
Thanks for the comments.
It’s the G1 77”. C1 83”. QN900A 85”.
It really depends on where the window or light source is.
I got the G1 in my bedroom and a window to the side. It’s not too bad.
If the window was directly in front of the TV/behind your seating position. You would definitely be in trouble. Less light sources the better.
That will some nice bias lighting your in heaven.
The Samsung will rock your socks in HDR. The OLED will blow you away with how it makes most things just look better in general. The contrast is killer.
Congratulations on the new TVs. Your going to be so happy!
Thanks for the quick reply! Sorry found the size dimensions in your video. Initially I got 2 C1's (77 and 83) - one for theatre and living, but came across lots of videos regarding reflections in sunlight. Have requested to return the 83 in lieu of trying the Samsung qled for the living area. Hope these would last many years - they are expensive!
I hear ya my man. Does hurt the pocket.
The QLED screams so bright. No problems in the bright room.
I dare say the OLED is more forgiving in terms of picture.
The 8K panel really shows imperfections if the content isn’t decent.
You will be happy.
SAMSUNG SMOKES THAT DULL PANEL OF C1
It’s definitely a major brightness difference c
@@ILT_AU AND VIBRANT AND COLORFULL , BRIGHTNESS IS MY THING , MORE THE BETTER
Really happy with my 65’ xh90 and xh95 tvs form Sony , love the mix of gaming performance and film time
Really good review, but just felt it was centred around gaming, what about a more detailed comparison for movies and TV shows? Still on the fence whether to get QN95A or LG G1!
There's lots of reports of quality issues with DSE with Samsung. Here's a video of an example czcams.com/video/louoRUd8e_Y/video.html
@@therider04 if you get that exchange then tv that shouldn’t make a person not buy tv that there a chance you may or may not get a defective panel . Like saying don’t buy the lg oled this year because there was reports of tv dying after a few months and not turning on which I have seen on CZcams also .
@@leeparkinson5900 ????? All I said there’s quality issues with Samsungs screens with DSE. Lots of them are affected. It’s not good for high end tvs. Plus no Dolby Vision.
I spent months in 2020 comparing TVs, and while the QLEDs were noticeably brighter, the OLEDs were bright enough and seemed to produce a "nicer" image. It's my subjective opinion of course and I'm probably influenced by having come from plasma. I have a GX which I find plenty bright enough. The 2021 OLEDs are even brighter. I'm not sure why anyone would want more unless their viewing room has lot's of windows? Saying we're asleep isn't fair comment.
That’s a very fair and reasonable opinion.
Thank you for your words, very fair and nothing abusive haha.
I do say throughout the video they are both great and it’s down to personal choices.
I also would like to reiterate that reviewing TVs in a shop vs living with the top TVs for 2021 in your home every day. It’s a huge difference.
I have the 77” G1 as you can see in the video.
It doesn’t touch the QN900A but it does produce a gorgeous image.
OLED is great and whichever one you decide on will make you super happy.
I do stand by my comment. OLED owners often remind me of very die hard loyal consumers.
They don’t give something else a chance.
But thanks so much for the viewership and congrats on a banger of a TV! :)
They’d want “more” bc the content was created for more luminance. You’re constantly compromising on OLED, with having to rely so much on tone mapping. Having native high peak brightness makes HDR content come alive, and reveals details in specular highlights that the OLED is going to compress the hell out of. See it all the time on my CX.
I get and understand your viewpoint, especially coming from a very dim plasma. But spend a decent time with any quality QLED, and it will definitely open your eyes up, to how HDR content was supposed to be viewed/enjoyed.
Either way. They are the best on offer at the moment.
If someone said they was unhappy. I’d find it difficult to believe.
I’m a peak brightness guy. Some people prefer the deep rich contrast look.
I believe if I didn’t have a history of bright QLEDs, I probably would have gone with OLED for the daily driver.
@@ye-rochawkins5432 specular highlights are what Samsung QLED televisions struggle at and OLED excels at. OLED can make small details glow because of pixel level control, while Samsung is actively dimming specular highlights to keep blacks low as well as reduce blooming.
@@vaxick Clearly you’ve never seen, or spent time with the QN900A. It actually exceeds OLED, even on small windows. It sounds like you’ve watched KICT’s QN90A video, and taken it as this is a fact for all QLED TV’s. I never even brought up Samsung, so why are you btw?
And I’m well aware of the benefits of pixel level control/self emissive nature of OLEDs lol. I find it hilarious a lot of you people think you know so much more than others. But really, that pixel level control is OLEDs party trick. They do a great job with small highlights. But once that window grows, it’s game over. You’re fighting the limitations of the tech. And this 100% impacts HDR, especially high APL scenes, and large windows. ABL will drag the APL down, and mute color volume.
You can keep believing you OLED is perfect tho. Keep in mind, I daily drive an OLED too right now. But I’m not oblivious to the limitations. Especially in terms of a HDR display. Nobody is claiming QLED is perfect either lmfao. It far from it. But QLED at least gives the HDR impact many of us seek, and the content calls for.
I have the C1 and Series X combo in my room and after watching this comparison I’m so happy with choosing the Oled, personally more drawn to the realism the LG provides, look at the reflection of the sun on the car in Forza at 5:30, the Samsung looks a little too cartoony
I have both and they dont look like this side by side .. there something wrong here.
What tv is on the right?. It looks better
@@tako1289 the C1
Gospel Truth my Friend! I Search for an New Tv 😂 A90J, QN95A , LG C1/G1 i am Playing 90% of the Time! And the Second Reason Samsung got very Good Soundbars to Pair with an New One.. Sonos would be Nice But is it so much Better for the Price ? I dont think so! I think Many People Come from an LCD to Oled and think its to Dim. I Come from a LG B6 to a Q9FN 😂 thats Night and Day in Brightness! Its a Good move from you! I think the LG Hype Train is to Offensive to Not See it 😂 and i Came from Germany, 85% of us Don‘t Play in Pitch Black Rooms!
Thank you.
Yes, OLED is way too dim.
I have the Samsung Q950A sound bar and it sounds great.
LED LCD TV is great for HDR! Better than OLED
I can’t be more Agee, I have an Lg oled b8 I really love the blacks , the colors and the contrast no one can beat that until I bought the Sony zh8 , I compared the lg and the Sony head to head and I still think that the contrast is the best on lg but at the moment you watch a movie or play on the Sony the punch of brightness and the vivids colors is more striking that the contrast of the lg
I really think that the best technology is Oled but until the technology doesn’t reach to the peak of brightness of a led full array , I definitely I will choose led from Oled
Started good, friend. Subscribed.
Thank you
can you also do a pc test with this nobody ever checks to see if the 8k variants have gsync compatible and if it runs 8k @ 60hz and 4k @ 120hz on pc I need to know cause I am looking to purchase an 8k to switch from 4k oled
Great review
I read lots of people are having dirty screen effect with the Samsung. It’s a real downer for me. Plus no Dolby Vision. No one cares about HDR10+. Samsung are the only company does not support Dolby Vision. There’s lots of reports coming out that Samsung are going to release OLED tvs again next year.
Samsung needs to sort out the quality issues with their tvs of DSE. It's not acceptable for the higher end models.
Here's a video of one of the worst case of DSE: czcams.com/video/louoRUd8e_Y/video.html
Good video
Can't stand the blooiming and far from black levels on the QLED, which is the reason I returned it and went with the C1. I'm not spending 3K for an LCD TV with some Quantum marketing fluff layer. It might be better than just an LCD, but I can't justify spending that much for a decade old panel technology. The burn in age is gone as the pixel refresher will run for 7 minutes every time you turn the TV OFF. Look at Quantum TV after playing for an year games with HUD. 0 burn in or image retention. OLED is just another class, and that is why Samsung is finally jumping to it next year by buying panels from LG.
My choice came down to lg c1 65 inch vs Samsung q80a 75 inch. TV is about 10 feet away from where we sit. I found it very difficult to decide.
People are really missing out on explosive impactful , hdr when they pick oled if they are a gamer you constantly hear about high brightness movies like mad max looking a lot better on high end qled , I don’t think what most people understand that almost all video games are high brightness from resident evil games 2000 nits to all Xbox first party and Sony games supporting 4000 nits to 10000 nits of brightness . Now owning a90j , c1 and qn90a it’s very clear for gaming Samsung is typically far better unless very dark scene in a game which is rare . My c1 I just sold it’s so dim in game especially if you want proper specular highlights you need to turn off tone mapping or the highlights are not impactful they just Bled into the scenes . The oled is great looking tv contrast is great but it just doesn’t match the explosive impactful highlight , of qled especially for gaming .
Great comment. Fair and well said.
I was completely convinced on the qn90a, until the end of the video when you could clearly see the brighter/punchy colors in the forest scene on the Oled. Or am I missing something here?
That’s probably the camera.
The Samsung is way punchier and colourful.
What about the price difference though? Looks like the QN900A is far more expensive?!
I really like your „TV Desk“ where is it from?
It’s from IKEA. It’s called FJÄLLBO
What speakers are those ?
Bowers wilkins 702
It's weird that my samsung will not let me choose vrr if it's not in game mode. Game mode looks so blurry on my qn900a I was very surprised that I can't change features I want.
Interesting you say that.
I find it very clear and clean, have you been updating your firmware?
What size is it?
Hey my man I'm curious what about the difference in upscaling content
I found the OLEDs to be more forgiving.
I can’t say for certain but it could be because of the 8K panel.
I find the Samsung will show a lot more noise in low quality content.
I was watching a TV show in 720p on the QN900A and I could notice a lot of imperfections.
I personally believe it’s due to the pixel density.
OLED appears to be able to handle it a bit better.
On good 1080p content and above the QN900A really shines. I threw a 4K Blu-ray of Sicario at it and it really wowed me.
8K is probably not necessary now but it does make a difference when it upscales quality content.
So I guess the answer is OLED appeared better to me with lower quality content.
But Samsung really ran away with high quality content.
So it really depends on what your most likely to throw at it.
@@ILT_AU Thanks 👍
I have the Qn90a and the C1 and i find the Qn90a upscaling a bit better than the c1 so i could be the 8k panel like you said.
Oh wow. Congrats man. Two fantastic TVs.
Either one will make anyone happy.
But again, my video really focused on having both every day side by side. Living with them.
You can’t compare by just going into a showroom and looking at them. They will never give you an accurate idea of what you will get.
Don’t get me wrong. The QN900A upscales well but if I was to compare, I’d say the C1 is better with average and QN900A is better with high quality. But we are splitting hairs :)
@@ILT_AU Appreciate it man,not many people have the Qn900a so i was Wondering how it compares. 1080p and sdr on Qn90a is amazing. I'd recommend the Qn90a for bright room and the C1 for dark room watching, you can't go wrong with either one.
Bright room samsung dim room LG. That's all Folks.
Well said.
Hi. Great video. My best wishes the channel grows a lot.
I am planning to upgrade by 75 inch q7fn 2018 model to above 80 inch tv.
Qn 900a is available but only on pre order .
Can you give be insight of how it is?
Also DIRTY SCREEN EFFECT did you experience it..
I watch lots of sports especially
Cricket
Football
Tennis
Athletics
All in 1080p
And also watch youtube 4k videos mostly .
Movies mostly 4k or hdr.
I don't play video games.
So how does it fare in all these.
Is it worth a buy.?
Is upscaling good.
Was planning between qn900 a , qn 90a and z9j and c1, which are in india above 80
But one connect box I am used to from my old tv so qn900a my preference.
Hope you reply soon, will help me decide as you one of rare who has them.
Thank you very much.
I have noticed very minimal DSE.
The motion on it has improved a lot from prior years.
If your going to spend a decent amount on a TV for sports. It’s hard to go past OLED.
But OLED for me is too dim.
If you don’t play games it’s hard to go past a Sony.
They do typically offer the best picture in the top end of their TVs but you don’t get much gaming features so that may suit you.
To be honest. Out of the QN900A, C1 or Z9J your going to be happy.
If you like Samsung and are happy with them. You won’t be disappointed with the QN900A. The one connect box is such a great addition also.
@@ILT_AU thanks a lot for replying.
Actually when spending so much money , better to have the best .
Also since you own one , I am sure you are the best judge.
SPORTS and MOVIES qn900a and z9j must be same?
Have you checked the Z9J.?
Ya z9j is available on pre order too but it's not having a 1 connect box on samsung is like a big plus.
Had heard a lot -
With more local dimming qn900a with better brightness comes closest to oled even better in dome cases is being said.
Looking forward to your video review on QN900A overall performance.
Because in reality such high end tvs nothing is available on youtube.
Also such tvs are rarely on display in showrooms.
I have not seen the Z9J in person so I can’t really comment.
I can definitely say the black levels on the QN900A are getting very competitive to OLED.
There is blooming but it’s very well controlled
@@ILT_AU thanks a lot for your great feedback.
Keep on giving the people more videos from your side about gadgets, as authentic youtubers are rare.
Have just pre-ordered QN900A 85 inches.
Will take a month to come samsung says.
Will definitely let you no my experience with it when I get to watch it.
Shortage of SEMI conductor chips , may result in such shortages till 2023.
Wow. Congratulations you will love it!
I had to wait 6 months for my TV I ordered it in April believe it or not.
Thank you so much. I have already received a lot of hate messages because of my opinion but when someone like yourself tells me to keep doing what I’m doing it really means a lot.
Thank you so much.
Stay safe!
Wow this guy he is Obsess with his Xbox tv and Xbox and play station
Hey gamer, why don't you compare forza 5 in hdr modes on both tv? Dolby vision is not good at the moment for gaming only for movies. You managed to shows us forza 5 in c1 in paperwhite disaster
Sure I can do that.
@@ILT_AU tag me please, can i recommend settings?
Sure. No problem.
Email me.
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@@ILT_AU done brother, sent
Which backlights do you have for your setup?
Philips hue gradient light strip for the TV.
Then two hue light strips on either side of the TV unit.
Also some hue lights on top of my display cabinets on the left and right sides.
They all sync for the hue sync box.
Then I also have light strips inside the TV units.
Check my other video to see how I cut them up to size and installed them. I used a lot of different pieces to make them work off one controller
Wait you're comparing three TVs but only showing two the C1 is different from the G1 right? Also which TV is on what side? Unless the person has the TV they wouldn't know what TV you're talking about
C1 left and QN900A right.
My qn90a has horrible blooming and dse so I’m getting a C1
These are 2021 models, bud. What gaming kings in 2022?
We will know soon when they release the news regarding the next models.
These are the current gen TVs
Samsung QNA900 is an 8K Tv and a little pricey so yeah it better be Superior to LG C1 😁
I love samsung phones and TV s but this time I went with Sony oled great TV.
And you will be happy.
4K TV compared to an 8K tv? These don't even cost the same
Wait what ?? Where’s the g1 vs Samsung lol that’s the only reason I watched this
Which wall mount and bias lights are you using for the qn900a? I’m looking for a slim wall mount that still allows for bias lights.
Funny you should ask. I am using Philips hue gradient light strip with a Philips hue sync box.
It’s so think and only just fits behind the TV.
Also, it doesn’t provide any light for the bottom the TV by design.
So you only get light coverage on the top and sides.
The OLED I used hue light strips cut to size so it’s full coverage.
@@ILT_AU I have the same philips gradient light. Which wall mount are you using? They are coming to install my tv tomorrow and I’m kinda nervous because the slim mounts don’t allow enough room for the hue gradient to fit. I measured the thickness of the bias light strip and it’s about 1 inch thick.
www.harveynorman.com.au/monster-60-100-flat-tv-mount.html
Highly suggest applying the strip and the control box on the Tv before mounting.
@@ILT_AU I’m between something like the one in this link which has a 3cm gap which is just enough for the hue gradient to fit, and a slim articulating one that allows me to tilt to avoid the glare of my overhead lights. Decisions decisions lol.
I found with this bracket there is a very subtle downward tilt.
Could just be my imagination but I’ve heard negative things about large screen TVs with adjustable wall mounting brackets.
Keep it simple and strong.
On the Samsung, do you notice words going greyer when there is a darker background?
I haven’t noticed it.
@@ILT_AU fair enough, got the qn90a and it tends to grey out the white words (like subtitles in games) when a the background goes dark
I can't stand the glare on LG Oleds. Ruins the experience for me. Love my QLED. Shame it doesn't have Dolby Vision, but I can live with that. Glare I can not!
Yeah but the brightness difference really nullifies the lack of DV at times.
pressed that dislike button just cause xbox sucks. ps5 only, all the way. You're welcome.
Hahahaha haters gon hate :)
We need more love in this world my friend.
Spread some love over to xbox. I still support and own PS
Which is oled the right or left one?
Left
Did u turn on DTM on on the oled ?
No I actually never did.
Hi sir, in my country my only good options are between a 48" LG C1 or a 55" Sony X90j. They dont sell the QN900/TCL/Hisense series here thus my options are pretty limited.
Would you recommend me to get the smaller OLED or the larger X90j? The sony is 70usd cheaper. but, about the same price point.
It's going to be placed in my bedroom, and used mainly for casual story/open world games on my ps5. I will also use it for some netflix.
The thing making me think twice on getting the OLED is that there are friends who advised me on getting a larger TV as it would be more immersive. I'm not particularly worried about burn in as I would only use my tv about 3/4hours a day, maybe more on weekends? and i think the newer playstation games have features that would help prevent screen burn in, like healthbars and stuff disappearing on screen when not in combat.
I have however heard very mixed reviews on the x90j. Some mentioned that the picture quality is comparable to the C1, while others absolutely trashed the x90j which got me, as a consumer with little knowledge in this, so very confused. Looking for some advise.
Do you think OLED> larger screen for better casual gaming/movie experience in a dim room?(there will be some ambient light turned on)
No larger screens is generally better imo however. For gaming. OLED over a Sony LED LCD.
That’s coming from someone who prefers led lcd TVs.
If you had a xbox sx then even more reason to get the OLED. Sony TVs aren’t gamer friendly.
Why can't I use the same logic you're using here? I mean I could also say that you're on the qled hype train. It's not a hype, oled is objectively the better technology. People should just know in advance what conditions they're going to use their tvs before purchasing.
That’s also true.
It’s my my opinion and your certainly entitled to your own.
Its been said that Oled is not bright enough to take advantage of HDR but I mostly play in a Dark Room so I don’t need Tv to be so bright but since Oled can get Burn In,I wouldn’t recommend it for Gaming