Netherlands Eurovision 2024 Reactionalysis - Music Teacher Analyses Europapa by Joost Kelin reaction
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2024
- The Netherlands is bringing something incredibly interesting this year!! Mike takes a listen to and analyses their entry for the 2024 Eurovision Song Contest, discussing some of the interesting musical features which make this song enjoyable.
Original Video: • Joost Klein - Europapa...
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The entire song (while sounding happy) actually has a depressive undertone, relating to the fact that people with severe depression might act very happy to put on a mask.
The house represents Joost's childhood, which was basically ruined when his father died of cancer while Joost was only twelve, and lost his mom a year later due to a heart attack. With the fire in the end he wanted to symbolize the end of his 14 years long grieving period.
When he sings lines like "I lost everything, except for time", "I'm in Germany but I'm so alone, even when I'm in Italy I still feel the pain" underscoring the fact that since the death of his parents he's felt deep pain and lonelyness no matter where he goes.
And the bit that says "I'm running from myself, all day long I call for help, I even give people money but there's nobody who really helps me", highlighting his battles with his depressions, PTSD and eating disorder, and that even doctors (the people he pays) can't really help him.
So yeah, it's actually a very sad song in a very happy shell. Like Joost himself is very sad but puts up this happy mask for the world.
And all this as a hyme to his parents, packed in a song that represents the unification of Europe, and the importance of it, especially now with the big red angry giant from the east lurking over us Western Europeans. It's not a great song, it's a masterpiece.
Thank you for this explanation!
Very well explained!
Love, art and hope are combined in this masterpiece 💙
This is a rollercoaster song. The most authentic song. An Ode to his parents. 12 points to Nederland from this Spanish heart ❤
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Thank you my friend, greeting from the Netherlands
This song has a deeper meaning. 'Papa' is translated as 'dad' in dutch. Joost lost his dad to cancer when he was 12 and his mom a year later because of a cardiac arrest. He sings that no matter where he goes or what he eats, he can not escape the pain of this loss. In the end he says goodbye to the pain of his loss by burning the photo, without losing the memory. This song is also an ode to Europe. His dad told him that there are no borders, because they are invented by humans. And that you can create your own world. The dance break is happy hardcore - a music style that was invented in the Netherlands, also called gabber music.
Thanks for the info! Happy Hardcore!! I have to look this up.
This is so sad 😔
Perfect ecsplanation, people asume way more then it is. And this song way more deel then joke like some people think.
I think is the best song for this year 😊
Great explanation! I Love this Song for the happy and for the sad part. Didn’t know about the gabber music, but now I am a fan! He becomes the 12 points that he deserves, twice from my Spanish and from my German phone. 💙
@@TheMuserResoluteHappy Hardcore and "gabber" music are the essence of 90s/00s Dutch culture. Still very popular in Europe, hardcore in general
@@TheMuserResolute Additionally: Joost used to watch EUROVISION with his parents every year, and their dream for him was to participate one day. That is why in the end, he dedicates this to his parents, under the words "I miss you every day, I secretly whisper to myself. But see Dad, I did listen to you."
It's a song about grief. You can try to run from it, but at some point you're going to have to face it. The burning house is letting go.
What surprised me was how this dancetune invites me to party and and also makes me feel so emotionele. It remembers me of my part days back in the nineties when live was so simple. His grieve also hits me like a sledgehammer. I also lost my dad. That for me makes a great song. I don’t care if he wins or not because i can realy appriciate his authentic artistry. I will enjoy this song for years to come. Thanks Joost for the throwback to my youth and making me feel all the feels 🇳🇱
Why I think Europapa is a masterpiece?
Knowing his background stories (lost both parents at a very young age, got depressed and dedicated this song to his father) and being a Dutch native speaker myself, I thought, why not translate Europapa, explaining the deeper meaning of the song (its my personal take on the song and not verified of course (only Joost knows) but I think it makes a lot of sense.
Have a read:
--> Welkom in Europa, blijf hier tot ik dood ga
(Welcome in Europe, I'll stay here till I die)
Welcome in a world without borders, without constraints.
I will never let myself be constricted.
--> Euro-pa-pa, Euro-pa-pa
(Euro-dad-dy, Euro-dad-dy)
--> Bezoek m'n friends in France
(I visit my friends in France)
'Friends' translated in France is 'Amis'
Amis was author of e.g. 'Invasion of the Space Invaders' and 'Money'.
Joost didn't visited friends in a country, he identified himself with characters in books.
--> Of neem de benen naar Wenen.
(or take a walk to Vienna)
In Dutch 'de benen nemen' has two meanings. Litterary is means 'to walk', but figuratively it means 'running away'
Same counts for 'Wenen'. Translated to English can mean 'the capital of Austria 'Vienna' but can also be translated to 'crying'.
So, it can mean 'walk to Vienna' or 'running away to despair'
--> Ik wil weg uit Netherlands, maar m'n paspoort is verdwenen
(I want to leave the Netherlands, but my passport is gone)
I want to run away from my childhood, run away from my pain, but I lost my identity. I don't know who I am anymore, I'm lost.
--> Heb gelukkig geen visum nodig om bij je te zijn
(I don't need a visa to be with you)
There's is nothing what can stop me to be with you, you are in my heart.
--> Dus neem de bus naar Polen
(So I take the bus to Poland)
Besides transportation, a bus is also a conductor. Polen, in Dutch, is the plural of pool. In English poles. So magnetism. With a balance of positive and negative ends.
--> of de trein naar Berlijn
(or the train to Berlin)
First; the Berlin Wall was the symbol of the Cold War and a divided Europe.
The fall of the Berlin Wall symbolizes the start of a united Europe.
Second; the track 'Friesenjung' of Joost Klein is co-written by his friend, the Berlin rapper Ski Aggu.
--> Ik heb geen geld voor Paris, dus gebruik m'n fantasie
(I don't have money for Paris, so I use my imagination)
Paris is the city of love. But there's no currency in the world that can buy his father back. He only can use his imagination to be reunited with his father
--> Heb je een еuro'tje, please? Zеg "merci" en "alsjeblieft"
(can you spare a euro, please? Say "merci" en "here you are")
Can I have a bit of your wealth, please? In return I will share a bit of my love with you.
--> Ik ben echt alles kwijt behalve de tijd
(I lost everything, except the time)
I lost everything what's important to me (his parents) the only thing that remains is the time he has left in his life, without his father a burden.
--> Dus ben elke dag op reis want de wereld is van mij
(So I'm travelling every day because the world is mine)
He's running, searching, trying to find something. Every day over and over and again in a world where he feels lonely.
--> Ich bin in Deutschland, aber ich bin so allein
(I'm in Germany, but I'm so alone)
The track 'Friesenjung' was a huge hit in Germany. He made it in Germany, but he can't share his successes with the one who is most inportant to him.
--> Io sono in Italia, maar toch doet het pijn
(I'm in Italy, but it hurts)
In his track 'Ome Robert' Joost sings (well actually screams), 'Who are you? I'm a god!'. But even the gods of the Roman empire are not enough to soothen the pain.
--> Ben aan het vluchten van mezelf, roep de hele dag om help
(I'm running away from myself, call for help the whole day)
I don't want to be the person as I am today, don't want to feel the pain anymore. But I can't do this on my own. I need help. Perhaps he asks his dad for help but realizes he is on his own.
--> Ja, ik geef zelfs mensen geld, maar d'r is niemand die me helpt
(Yes, I even give money to people and organizations, but there's nobody who helps)
I need help and I'm willing to share everything I have, but nobody understands my pain, not even the organizations who should have taken care of me. I feel alone and lonely.
--> Ik hoef geen escargots, hoef geen fish 'n' chips
Hoef geen paella, no, ik weet niet eens echt wat dat is
(I don't need escargots, don't need fish 'n' chips. Don't need paella, no, I'm not even sure what it is)
I'm not interested in luxury, not interested in traditions, not interested in exotic places.
--> Zet de radio aan, ik hoor Stromae met "Papaoutai"
(turn on the radio, I hear Stromae with "Papaoutai")
I tune in and hear someone in a similiar situation (Stromae lost his father as well) echoing my thoughts ('Papaoutai' means 'Daddy, where are you?')
--> Zal niet stoppen, tot ze zeggen: "Ja, ja, dat doet 'ie goed, ey"
(Will not stop until they say: "yeah, yeah, he doing a great job, ey")
I'm a insecure and will not stop until I got the confirmation that I'm on the right track. That I'm doing a good job. A tab on the shoulder will do.
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And there you have it.
Europapa is a masterpiece....
Wow. Nog nooit zo'n mooie 'ondertiteling' bij Europapa gelezen. Er zitten meer lagen in dan ik me realiseerde
Nice work amigo!
You got it on the right end!!
Goh, die 'benen naar Wenen' referentie is ook verdomde goed zeg. Dat had ik nog niet zo bedacht, maar dat is echt goed
Well done, but you forgot a bit here:
"--> Ja, ik geef zelfs mensen geld, maar d'r is niemand die me helpt
(Yes, I even give money to people and organizations, but there's nobody who helps)
I need help and I'm willing to share everything I have, but nobody understands my pain, not even the organizations who should have taken care of me. I feel alone and lonely."
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Another one of his is called 'Wachtmuziek' about waiting times etc to get help for Mental Health problems.
He gives people money to help him, he tried talking & therapies, but it isn't working to cure his loneliness.
Scooter is copying 100% the original Dutch music sound from the 90s that became a global phenomenon in that decade. The Dutch literally INVENTED this type of music. And now in 2024 a Dutch musician that makes music from his actual orignal native Dutch heritage ... sounds ... according to most youtubers ... like Scooter :) Wow!!!! CZcams really is a messed up place if you want to know actual history.
Dank je.. kan het niet beter omschrijven.
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7:19 I love this reaction. I had the exact same on first watch - seems like a novelty song then the ending completely transforms your interpretation of the whole thing!
"The real scoop (at the end of video) is that Joost Klein's tune isn't about geopolitical fires-it's about the blaze of his own memories, scorched by the loss of his parents at a young age. He's just globetrotting through Europe to douse those fiery thoughts. Simple as pie!"....
It's really a masterpiece! It makes me so happy and so sad at the same time! He deserves to win!
Joost Klein dedicated this song to his father, who died when he was 12 years old due to cancer. His dad taught him that the world has no actual boundaries. His mother died a year later, when he was 13, due to cardiac arrest. Before his dad passed, Joost was already writing all kinds of stuff and promised one day he was going to go to Eurovision. He has gone through so many challenges in life, and it is a true inspiration to see how he deals with them.
Music touches me so deep. You touch the keys in the end and it hits me just so f€cking hard ❤️
Life imitating art
As Ukrainian I hear this song like Europe has to be together and getting stronger.
Many deeper meanings in this song.
They do it live through the voice being sampled. Technically if a voice is passed through a vocoder and then sampled it counts as an ‘instrument’ so doesn’t break the ‘no main vocals as backing vocals’ rule. It is a bit naughty seen as it’s the main hook of the song and it’s almost never Joost’s live vocal - but the rules allow it. No one has ever so explicitly tested this rule before though (mostly because this is a very unusual genre for Eurovision), so depending on how well it does you might see some stricter rules come in next year regarding sampling voices.
My favourite song this year
Love it🎉🎉🎉
I love this song,there are a lot of elements united inside.
That melodic hook in the chorus is everything
There is so much in this song, really great.
12 points
It's also nice to see Joost life performens at Tilburg
i love how you suddenly "lagged" in the end of the song 😂😂
This song is very deep, I think what gives it away is the faceial expresions.
They get more extreme the further the song goes on.
Here some context from the Lowlands Festival about his parents:
czcams.com/video/KTM9_Pz1wFo/video.htmlsi=e1iK0Efyb9hLkssy
Btw the flag you see is from Fryslan/Friesland, in the north of the Netherlands, having its own language.
See also his nr 1 hit in Germany: FriesenJung (translates to Frisian bloke)
The ending has serious Macklemore vibes
I was not ready for that switch up - Vesuvius by Sufjan Stevens
I know 😢
Thanks as always!!
Ik vind het goed gespeeld
Thank you for your reaction! I'm already a subscriber because of your reactions to Nightwish 🤘🏼
You'll not be so confused if you watch again with the English subtitles. And maybe you'd like to react to the live version in Stockholm, the Nordic European party a week ago. In this performance Joost is very clear the song is for his parents. If you find the whole performance with the Remix at the end, you might get more confused. That's serious hardcore 😅
You're a reactor focussed on sound, not lyrics. Happy hardcore is sounding happy but the lyrics mostly are sad or silly, mocking every day life. It's typical Dutch, acting silly, laughing your *ss off, "dancing away the heartache" on happy hardcore while inside you're sad or disappointed with a pointless life. And well, I actually think a lot of other Europeans can relate to that 🫶🏼
Thank you 😊
One of my favorite things to see when experts see something coming before it's actually there is the slight laugh of: "Oh this is gonna be so cool!" like 3 seconds into a piece. Usually, people react to moments, but experts react to possibilities those moments give you.
Thanks. 😃 Joost Klein🥇🇳🇱❤️ winnaar-ganador 🇳🇱🤗
This is a serious song, packed in a comic scene, so the pain is not so bad.The song is based on a true story. His story.
Ik zeg 12 points for The Netherlands ❤❤❤
Whatch Joost song called "Florida 2009 at Lowlands" this has English lyrics and Joost tells the story of the lost of his father (papa) when he was 12 and lost his mother when he was 13 years old. Hey promised his father to make it to eurovision.
I love seeing people watching this and then getting to the end and not realising it's actually really tragic!
Yes this was serious. It was actually deeply emotional for Joost Klein.
I already missed your reaction as I liked your last year's Käärija very much.Yes,Joost lost both of his parents-that's why the sad ending.There's definitely at least one ballade this year-France.I think you should check it out as you may be in for a surprise.
When the rhythm is glad, there is nothing to be sad (c)
Seeing this reaction as an autistic person who usually struggles with the point of connection, is heattwarming. Due to how my life has formed, im very much connected with people from different cultures and backgrounds across the world. Including music.
I didnt understand the language and so most of the lyrics, but i could make out most of it. I was very conflicted between this one and Nemo. Cause as you realise to the end. This is a song that comes from his heart.
He loves this continent and just wants people to get along. He made a promise to his parents, and he will keep trying till his dying breath.
Ps. Also why theres not a more beautiful choice than a gabber bridge, i lost it there. There isnt a more iconic thing for Netherland culture. That is as if you brought Joddel during a swiss bridge
A tip: on the Eurovision official videos, there are almast always subtitles in English and in the original language, so it's often possible to read along.
This is .music from the netherlands...scooter made a copy of it..
Has some real Gangnam Style vibes going on
he lost his dad when he was at the age of 12 and 8 months later he lost his mother and he had promised his dad he would some day take part of the Eurovision .....
it has subtitles
It's my favourite this year, hope it wins! but I think it might struggle with the jury votes think it will win the televote.
Try the live one
hey youtube has a feature called subtitles it may be called captions or ondertiteling in my case use it and redo your vid.
PS how good is that shirt i have the same one
As happy as this song sounds, it's a sad song.
Actually, he describes his life in a few minutes;
In the first verse, he talks about losing everything. An important part is the death of his parents when he was 12/13 years old.
In the second verse, he talks about how alone and lonely he is. He also says that he needed help because of depression and being homeless and apparently insufficiently helped I don't understand the reference to stromai (bad in french).
The leonardi da vinci (The Last Supper) scene may refer to one of his songs in which he sings that he is god.
If I remember correctly, his father once told him that he should keep writing poetry.
The house with the mill is the place in which he grew up (with all the shit) and possibly burning it down, taking a new step into a new world without borders in which he can do whatever he wants
It's Joost Klein (not Kelin)
the autotune isn't autotune
its a soundbyte of his voice that is played on a keyboard
Just Watch it with lyrics!!!
Scooter was the 90s
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Turn on the subtitles to get the lyrics
No, no metaphor.. not political
if this doesnt win... i cry foul.....
Even if he doesnt win, he has still achieved one of his life goals, singing on the eurovision.
MORTAL KOMBAT !!!
It's not a joke, next time try the subtitles. Yes the song sounds like fun, the lyrics were not fun. His parents did actually die when he was very young. And NO it's not about the EU!!
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I feel like there is somewhat of a "rejection of globalism/Americanism" going on in Europe at the moment. Especially with the Ukraine and Russia war, and the refugee crisis.
On top of the music industry being absolutely sucked dry and being original becoming harder and harder, people are returning to national roots to look for inspiration.
Engels #2
Europapa
Europe let's come together!
(Europapa1, Europapa)
It's now or never!
I love you all!
(Europapa, Europapa)
Welcome to Europe, I'll stay here until I die
Europe-ope-ope, Europe-ope-ope
Welcome to Europe, I'll stay here until I die
Europe-ope-ope, Europe-ope-ope
Visiting my friends in France
Or taking my legs to Vienna
I want get out of the Netherlands but my passport disappeared
Fortunately I need no visa to be near you
So I'm taking the bus to Poland or the train to Berlin
I have no money for Paris so I use my imagination
Do you have some euros please
Saying "merci"2 and "alsjeblieft"3
I lost everything, really except for time
So every day I'm on a journey because the world is mine
Welcome to Europe, I'll stay here until I die
Europe-ope-ope, Europe-ope-ope
Welcome to Europe, I'll stay here until I die
Europe-ope-ope, Europe-ope-ope
Europapa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa
Europapa-pa (Hey)
Europapa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa
Europe! (Hey)
I am in Germany
But I'm so lonely
I am in Italy, but it hurts really
Running from myself
Shouting "help!" all day
Yes I even give people money
But there's no one that helps me
I need no escargots
Need no fish and chips
Need no paella, no
I don't even know what that is for real
Turning on the radio
I hear Stromae with "Papaoutai"
Won't stop until they say "Yes, yes, that's good, yeah!"
Welcome to Europe, I'll stay here until I die
Europe-ope-ope, Europe-ope-ope
Welcome to Europe, I'll stay here until I die
Europe-ope-ope, Europe-ope-ope
Europapa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa
Europapa-pa (Hey)
Europapa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa
Europe! (Hey)
Europapa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa...
Welcome to Europe, boy! (Hey)
Europe
At the end of the day we are all human beings
My father once told me it's a world without borders
I miss you everyday, I whisper secretly
Do you see now dad?
I listened to you
My holiday? Not Zweden!
Apparantly the Pa-pa part is not even sung at all. The producer behind the song Tantu explained and showed in a clip that he made some sort of synthesizer using Joost voice to make the Pa-pa sound. Joost sings a lot from the song but not that.
It's a very sad song
I am amazed (and sad) how the all-ruining autotune and similar post- overproduction techniques have become the 'industry-norm' to such an extent, that even musicians like you mistake a sampled voice that clearly visibly is played back with a keyboard-like device for autotune.
(ironically while producing piano tones yourself through a keyboard using basically the same sample-based technology).
It's so interesting how nobody actually listens to the lyrics. Every single word in this song describes his loneliness, longing and pain but people aren't listening.
its a song, and n song real listener listen music, lyrics is a not impottnant
🇳🇱🇪🇸🇮🇪🇬🇧 I hope that other countries will boycott the Eurovision Song Contest now that Joost Klein is no longer allowed to perform. That would be great to make a statement. 🇳🇱🇪🇸🇮🇪🇬🇧
#joostkleine #Eurovision2024
#Eurovision
#Europapa 🇳🇱🇪🇸🇮🇪🇬🇧
0:10 Your right and wrong about this. The Netherlands 🇳🇱 odds last few years:
2024 Joost Klein, Europapa, odds dropped from 14% to 6% since rehearsals.
2023 Mia Nicolai and Dion Cooper, Burning Daylight (did not qualify for final)
2022 S10, De Diepte, 1% (11th place)
2021 Jeangu Macrooy, Birth of a New Age,
Hey Mike 🤗 ❤How are you ? 😊 Thanks SO MUCH for your GREAT & MUSICAL & and emotional reaction !! 😊 🌟 I will give BACKGROUND for you : JOOST KLEIN lost both his parents , when he was 13 , so it is a TRIBUTE! 🤗 By burning the house of his parents , he could loose his thoughts and go on with his life! ❤ ( BTW : THE M/V HAS SUBTITLES !!!)
🌟 JOOST KLEIN has uploaded this CLUBSONG : *LIVE IN CONCERT PERFORMANCE* of EUROPAPA!! : Including an outrageous dancing/ singing /mad 3000 people !!👌❤ 🍀 You can watch here : *M/V INFO TITLE* : " *JOOST KLEIN - EUROVISION IN CONCERT AMSTERDAM* 🍀 CAN you PLEASE react to it ? ❤ YOU WILL LOVE IT - FOR YOU it is a MUST SEE 🤣 Take care and stay safe & HEALTHY ❤🌷JOERI 🇳🇱
Thank you for the information!
joost 2 points
The Netherlands did not perform in the last years ? Duncan Laurens ? Wake up..2019 Rotterdam.
Vond het een grappig liedje maar als je goed luistert is het pure Europese propoganda..... welkom in europa.... Ja ken het verhaal achter de song, laatste stukje met de vlammen staat hij naar een jongere en oudere versie van zichzelf te kijken maar aub laat je niet voor de gek houden door iemand in een blauw pak
Scooter, nope... His producers stole all of his stuff from the Scottish act: *ULTRA SONIC* just listen to annihilating rhythm, and hear all of the 'scooter' yells and melodies... They just stole it y'all!
In one of the many interviews he gave, he was referring to Scooter, so that is a miss from your side. He also told it was a throwback of the 90s.
When you analyze music you will find out that all present day music is 'stolen' as all chords have been played before. So even your Ultra-Sonic most likely lend what they played from somewhere else. It is just that the compositions differ that make it a different song.
There is a series on CZcams of a dutch DJ, Bart Arens that analyses songs (especially synthesizer) and shows where sections came from and where they were used.
For the hard-core section Joost asked the help of DJ Paul Elstak (the guy in the car) to throw his gabber sauce over it.
So stolen, certainly not, borrowed... left and right... most likely.
I'm sorry. I listen to the song you mentioned, but im hearing Scooter, mental theo & charlie lownoise and Paul Elstak. But i do agree with you that it is 90's based
@@delphia85Paul Elstak optimized the Gabber part. You see him in the car...
@cbaten2 I know....that's what I mentioned right?
@@JohnZonneveld I'm only talking about Scooter. Joost- is cool, and makes everything his own.
The act/producers. Yes everyone gets inspired by other artists. The scooter producers took it literally, months before the Scooter act ever came out with that exact sound! Ultra sonic made these sounds and yells. (Did you listen to that song, you'll hear.)
Everyone else was inspired after it. Ultra sonic was around since 1991, but didn't start with records till later, as they were a small, local Scottish act.
Inspiration from other artists is one thing, literally copy pasting is theft!
and this is a song ? but go to ...