The brutal reality of transferring from Community College...
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- A guidebook of what to expect when you transfer from Community College to any University. I highlight the academic, career and social challenges you will most likely face. This video is from my point of view as a junior transfer at UC Berkeley.
Timestamps:
00:00 - 00:50 Intro
00:50 - 2:59 Academic Challenges
2:59 - 5:39 Career Challenges
5:39 - 7:22 Social Challenges
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Doing two years in community college and then transferring to a UC is the best financial deal in all of higher education.
Could you help me answering my questions, I’m still confused about cc, so can I do two years or less of community college get my associates degree and then transfer to a 4 year university but I only want to get my bachelors degree so do I still have to take the 4 years in the uni or just take two years ?
@@angiesalazar6235 You do 2 years at the community college, transfer to a UC and do another 2 years, then get your BA or BS degree (4 years total). But, (1) you have to be sure you are in a community college that has the guaranteed matriculation program with a UC campus, and (2) you take the specific classes at the community college the UC school requires and gets the necessary minimum grades. Good luck!
@@angiesalazar6235you do 2 years at the university as the GE and major prep classes that you take at CC fulfill the classes that underclassmen do at the university anyway!
Hi I want to ask how you managed to pay very high fee of the University especially for international students like 40000 dollar or you got a full scholarship after transferring to the university since I am planning to study in a community college but I am worried for the tuition fee after transfer to university
@@Myaseen321 You need to talk to each individual university about this. In general, if you go to a state university, the tuition is manageable. There are loans available, and you can also work part time. Good luck!
I remember being in high school; I had a 2.4 and 4 F's, all in math. I was absolutely terrified about my future. All my friends would be talking about colleges, GPAs, and such, and I would just hope they didn't ask me what my stats were. I decided to go to a branch campus of a large state school. I worked and studied harder than I ever did before and ended with a 3.9. I transferred to Cornell for finance. If you work extremely hard towards transferring, it can be done.
Beautiful success story - what career are you in?
@@adamramirez1Investment banking. I'm going to switch careers by the end of this year, though.
Its not like u were stupid. You definitely had the talent no one gets an F in math cuz they are just bad at math you simply stopped being lazy and turned your life around so good job👍
@@Jason-ee3yl yeah I definitely wasn’t “stupid” the main reason was that I had adhd so I just never turned in any work
@@adamramirez1 investment banking until the end of the year
In high school, I never did that well and didn't care. I joined the military and developed a new-found passion for education along the way. I ended up going to community college with a 4.0 on the president's honor roll as well as being in the honors society. I just got accepted into Columbia University for the fall of 2024. High school is insane. You are a kid being asked what you want to do in life but have never experienced life to begin with, so many of you might feel lost and hopeless. Don't stress, and it's okay to allow yourself time to process. Don't give up.
Amazing story, huge congrats on Columbia!
that’s great! If you don’t mind, which cc did you attend?
That’s gotta be cap no way ivies accept cc
@@shalevwiden3927 they actually do, not in massive numbers but I’ve seen it happen
@@vmaik4s Sierra College in Rocklin California!
CC is the best choice I’ve ever made. I save 80k in just one year, and have nearly guaranteed acceptance to UCLA. Also tons of time to work on projects and build my skills for the future
How did you save 80k?
@@wazup3333 UCs are 40k a year. I am only going to go for 2 years instead of 4, so I save 80K. In reality I actually save 100k because of interest on the loan.
they mean that as opposed to a private college or 4 year university community college is typically cheaper. so you save money once you transfer out. @@wazup3333
@@wazup3333 UCs cost 40k a year
@@wazup3333
tuition... housing...
I was a cc transfer. Your career portion is so on point I might do a video response. Ultimately the 3 most common routes iv seen out of cal are: software engineering, consulting, pre law/pre med and tech sales. A lot of kids do in with a whole ass plan and internships but still come out doing one of these and you don’t really need any internships or even insights to do these so I wouldn’t beat yourself up if you don’t have a plan!
Yeah I wouldn’t beat yourself over it too but if you want to come out of college five steps ahead of everyone else and start off at a top notch firm it helps to land internships and have a plan. Unfortunately, most time cc transfers get the short end of the stick because they have less time to make that plan and land internships. 🫤
@@adamramirez1 what plan are u talking about? can u eleborate
@@rezi9754 hey, yeah so what I mean by plan is basically what they want to do post-grad. You have to create a plan to getting either getting into grad school or a career that you want to get into. So that may look like starting early to study for the lsat or grinding leetcode to be a software engineer.
Be careful. I had 59 units when i transferred, and I'm still have to complete another 83 on top of that. I'm a STEM major though and I've been told that they require more work by my counselor... don't be like me and make sure you have a University in mind while in cc so you can transfer all your units to your bachelors.
In my first semester of CC! Currently looking at possible transfer schools, ur video gives me hope in transferring and a bit of a reality check while looking at schools.
@@canalzinhado not go to uc Merced go to cc. I’m a senior rn and I chose cc over Merced
@@amadoudiop4073 why?
thank you sm for this it’s so helpful as a incoming college freshman
Thanks for making this video. I'm almost done getting my associate's degree in graphic design and then transferring to a 4-year college. I have 7 more classes to go but want to research what college I want to attend now.
Thanks for the insight! I hope to transfer out of my community college to a UC im not sure which one but leaning towards UCSB! This is great to keep in mind a bit scared I keep seeing videos like these hahah but its also very helpful! Great job and so happy for you sending prayers!
You got this! Dream big!
I'm not sure why this video was recommended to me, but I like it. I went to a community college for 2 years before transferring. It's definitely the right decision in the long run my friend. I graduated with my bachelors this year and am so happy i went to a CC beforehand. I saved a LOT of money and all of my pre req classes transferred over.
I think you should make a video telling people about transferal credits for classes. That was very confusing for me when I first went through the process as a 19 year old. Before transferring, make sure the pre requisite classes for your degree are actually going to transfer over. I actually had to send the syllabus for organic chemistry 1 and 2 from my CC so that they could accept the credit. Something very important to consider.
0:20 persona 5 sound effect caught me off guard
That’s a good video idea, I plan to make more community college videos to demystify transferring and attending.
Pokémon sounds effect lol
Hi! is there a way I can discuss this topic with you? Transferring credits is something I worry about as they check after you are accepted.
Hi I want to ask how you managed to pay very high fee of the University especially for international students like 40000 dollar or you got a full scholarship after transferring to the university since I am planning to study in a community college(as a international student) but I am worried for the tuition fee after transfer to university.
This man had an incredible run getting to Cal. Tell 'em about your schedule
i am an international student who wants to study in the US, due to it being expensive i thought it was not possible but seeing the transfer options gave me hope and the fact that I will not be the only one doing it reassures me so i just wanted to say thnx for making this vid it gave me a peace of mind in this stressful time of college applications and the cost of just studying in a college
What country are you from
Yeah wch country are you guys from?
@@Tawanda628 I’m American
I was a mathematics student in college. I started at a community college and then transferred to a small public university in the same area. To be honest, I don't feel like the classes I took at community college were any less rigorous than the classes I took at university, but that was just me. In my experience, the difficulty of the coursework depends more on the individual class and the professor. I think transferring to Berkeley is an exception since it is a very competitive school where only the best students go, but if you transfer to a less selective university that isn't as well known, I don't think you will typically notice a significant difference in the difficulty of the coursework.
Definitely varies school to school and also your major plays a major role.
5:00 SO TRUE, I thought about this. Pursuing research and internship opportunities right now!
Highly recommend this, stay looking ahead to the next moves ahead!
Community college was never meant to replace a proper 4 year college. Very few careers can get away with a community college education alone. It's basically a good way to experiment with different classes without selling your kidney or complete smaller classes needed before or after a 4 year college. I'd rather play catchup with my career and social skills with zero debt over going to a 4 year university drowning in debt into my adulthood.
Hey, I want to go to cc in another state and then transfer to a 4 year. Is that a good idea? My mom looks down on cc and makes it seem so horrible.
For me it was very helpful following the IGETC when I went to CA CC and then transfered to UC. But, it was a long time ago! Looked it up though and it's still around:
"IGETC is a comprehensive pattern of courses that prospective transfer students from California community colleges can complete to satisfy lower division General Education requirements at both UC and CSU."
wow this is so useful
I am a chemistry major who transferred to Berkeley's College of Chemistry and I feel like I had a polar opposite experience.
While it is true that a lot of students drop out initially, as I progressed on to tougher courses in CC (O Chem, Calculus, Lin Alg etc.) I never really saw anyone drop classes. A lot of my classmates in harder subjects and the o chem students I tutored at my CC were super motivated and ended up getting into some great colleges.
As for the academic challenge, I for sure had some really tough courses at CC that helped me hone/improve my study techniques and I had to put in a tremendous amount of hours in prepping for my exams. I have actually heard that upper division classes may actually feel easier (in regards to chem).
Regarding career challenges, I have actually had a couple internships that were made possible by my CC's partnership with USC and have been able to get a resume started during my time at CC. I personally feel like my internship experiences have helped my solidify what I want to pursue as a career and has given me phenomenal resources to do so. I never really felt like I had to play catch-up.
Getting internships at CC is insane, Great Job!
Hi Jeremy! I am planning on doing a year or two of cc as it is better financially for my family? Is there any way that I could talk to you about your experience? I am going in for chemical engineering but have a few concerns, but reading your comment made me have hope to et into a good university afterwards!
How do you get your hair like that? I have a similar straight and thick hair but it always falls flat on my forehead
Hi
Im pursuing chartered accountacy.
Plz share some info about it
That is cool; I attend Mt. SAC and plan to transfer as an EE major.
HEY, i've got 3.6+ GPA in 10th grade but in 11th grade, my GPA dropped to 3/4. I'm planning to join a cc and transfer to a better college later, what do you suggest?
Yeah it’s a good option to go to cc, I’d factor in what you want to do after college and see if cc fits in that plan.
Your first 2 points contradict
1) you struggled at UC because you didn't have to spend as much time on easy CC courses, you just breezed through them
2) you didn't have time to focus on internships and career planning because you were so focused on transfering out of CC.
In my mind, it's easier to focus on getting internships and volunteering and being part of clubs when you have more free time. You definitely would have more free time from going to CC instead of studying the first 2 years at UC.
Like I don't mean to be harsh, but it really sounds like the first 2 points are laziness. CC was easy for you so you felt like you had a breather, but if you really wanted to apply yourself in your courses instead of using chegg and focus on volunteering and internships, then you could easily do it all during your first 2 years of CC.
All that is under the assumption that the free that would be allocated to the internship search etc. Time management plays a big factor to this point.
But even with that assumption there’s no rubric/101 to recruiting for internships. It’s usually a new process which makes it difficult for transfers compared to a regular uni student how might have recruited for internships fresh and soph year and understand how to recruit.
I completely agree with you on your last point that CC students should focus on career stuff while at community college. But it doesn’t always materialize that way because they’re focused on transferring out or don’t know how to get an internship - many barriers. I’ve talked about this point a few times in my videos because this is SO SO important and something I wish I did at CC.
Did you go to Berkeley because of the semester system? I went to UCSB and the quarter system was harder for me because you don't get second chances if you mess up on a test. I ended up starting a business and leaving after being there 2 years.
I didn’t really consider the semester system into my decision but it was a smooth transition to berkeley because I was used to the semester system from cc
so you went 2 years community, then 2 years transfer public?
all my credits only transfer to wgu for cybersecurity and information insurance.
1:44 Hey, that’s my home 🏡
Hey, I'm an incoming community college student hoping to transfer to a UC school. I remember hearing something about transfer housing, where people who successfully transfer to a four-year get the housing there with fellow junior transfers, not the people who were admitted as a freshman. If this is true, does this help with the transition from CC to four-year?
Yeah living in student housing is a great way to meet ppl. But a lot of transfers don’t live in student housing bc of the cost.
@@adamramirez1 Thanks so much. My other question was, how do you think a CCC student's chances at a school like Berkeley or UCLA are based on their major? Like my major is computer science (which I might switch to data science), so would my chances be harder than a CCC student who majors in, let's say, Literature for example or some other less competitive major?
@@prishamaiti so transfer admission from cc to the uc system is heavily impacted by major. Cs students at cal have ~
This is exactly what I said. The state of California a UCs that deny you say go to community college so you aren’t prepared.
University and four year college students are just as clueless as community college students. Some do better, though, because they have lots of support from parents and kin with higher levels of education. They also more likely have the wherewithal to buy solutions manuals, access to premium online help, in-person tutors, etc.
fair point but if you want to break into selective career industries you need direction as a freshman. recruiting for roles like ib start in the spring of sophomore year. other selective roles you need relevant experience to even get an interview.
I'm transferring to UCF from Valencia college and I'm really nervous. I still have Spring and Summer semester to go and I hope the academics aren't too bad and I actually make friends because I'm a loner lol
Congrats on getting accepted! Just tackle it head on, change is exciting!
I’m transferring for fall session 2024 are you in UCF yet?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but if you know you're going to transfer, when you apply to CC do you apply for 2 years or the whole 4 years?
The application is the same. At least to my knowledge.
That only applies to majors like acct, Engineering, pre med, pre law, but not in other majors like GP, Creative writing, Arts and Literature.
What would you say it's like for those type of majors?
@@LauraNicole-yc1ym Not great. The job space for those careers (the arts) is quite limited, and it's only a matter of time until many traditional positions start to be automated (i.e., copywriting). You could be a teacher tho if that's your passion--that's always an option.
So when you transferred did you have your associates yet? I’m a junior in cc and looking to transfer my senior year without my associates. Also, do you think having an off campus part time job in uni is a bad decision since the workload is more intense?
Yeah I had two jobs while at cc and I just focused on getting my transfer requirements done. Didn’t pay attention to getting an associates
@@adamramirez1 Ok, thanks!
hey i know this is like a stupid question but is junior year called ur 3rd year? and is it necessary to attend 3 years of cc to get an associates degree?
@@rezi9754 In university, your third year is typically referred to as your junior year. In community college i don’t think those titles really mean as much. An associates is usually two years, but it just depends on your credits and the amount of classes you enroll in. It’s really at your own pace.
Hello, I was thinking of applying to UCM after my final year of HS for Mechinal Engineering but I was wondering if there are any other colleges that offer good ME courses. Thanks.
Community colleges or universities?
@@adamramirez1 Universities.
Hey, Im about to graduate from high school and still not sure whether I should go to CC or UIC. I would be going to UIC for free and receiving a additional 7k worth of scholarships yearly, but the school is kinda mid, do you think CC is worth it?
What are you planning to study?
Depends on area of study. If UIC is actually free, then do it.
@@adamramirez1 Im planning to go for business/finance
@@knock-nock-5075 I would say community college because for finance/bus it’s extremely helpful attending a top 25 college. Your job prospects expand immensely especially if you want to go after competitive roles like investment banking and consulting.
its worth it to get the free tuition and scholarships. school is what you make of it. Trust me bro. Do NOT go into debt until you have to.
It's not that CC don't prepare you for 4 years uni, but seems like you have wrong attitude during your CC year. You underestimated it. You just got lucky
I’m a little lota bit older than the target demographic for this vid, I’ve already have a 20+ year career and experience in many different things, but I still enjoy taking 2 or 3 classes a year at community college for fun and to keep sharp. Over the years I’ve attended 6 different ccs in different parts of the country. I think he’s spot on about ccs not preparing students for uni or a career. Every single one that I’ve attended has poor academic counseling and shit administration. The instructors definitely have a much lower expectation of students, and it seems everyone expects a very low success rate. The peer pressure to succeed is also lacking at ccs probably because the demographics are much more broad than those attending uni. Some people are high school kids looking to get ahead, some people just want to try out a couple classes to see if college is for them, some people are coming from difficult situations and want a fresh start or a kickstart, some people are just like me, some people are high achievers looking for an advantage. At uni most people are focused the same things and tend to be a lot better resourced.
That said, cc has been pretty great for low pressure and fun learning, and great for building a network with instructors that also work in my field and other lifelong learners. The vets lounge is always the best at ccs too.
I have a question can you get a job with your associate's degree then transfer to college later? I'm asking this just so i can finanve my university fees, also can u tell us more about the scholarships possibilities
Depends what type of job you’re looking to get with your associates. Most high paying jobs require a bachelors at least if you’re talking white collar jobs.
@@adamramirez1 for example i'll land a job as a data analysit then i can use it to finance myself and get a bachelor or masters coa i alsreafy have a previous bachelor degree i just cant afford masters directly
Possible. But the likelihood of that is low because entry level data analyst typically need a bachelors degree. What is more feasible is an internship. That can easily finance your degree too if you get a top internship, usually they pay $28-45 with a duration of three months.
I went to community college off and on for 4 years before transferring to a 4 year university and I wake up every day regretting going to CC. If I could’ve done it all over again, I would’ve gone to a 4 year college immediately after high school, the networking and internships opportunities is even more important than the content you learn in class. Plus the party scene and Greek Life in your late teens and early 20s are the most fun you’ll ever have in your life.
Seems like you weren't ready to go to 4 year uni immediately. CC can be a great starting point for many if you maximize your time there.
You just sound like you waste your time in general
@@DarknessFalls29what do you mean?
@wazup3333 The rigor at a 4 year college/university is a lot higher than commu its college. Sometimes you can get a professor at a CC who also teaches at the university up the street so their teaching and grading style is tough. I've had a couple that taught at George Mason U and they treated us as if we were seniors or grad student.
@@DarknessFalls29 No it isn't, i've transferred to two different universities from community college, the first time as a Mass Com major at Wayne State and the second time as an Accounting major at Western Michigan. The difficulty of the classes was the same and in some cases the classes were easier at Wayne State and Western and harder at community college. Course difficulty depends on the professor.
I will be pursuing mechanical engineering in USA next year (international student), can anyone suggest some good engineering community colleges?
What state will you be in?
@@wackywildpotato1410 hey i will be in cali or states near cali so do u have any good recs for a good cc in that area?
I transferred out of CC after 1 year but the 1 year at university obliterated my entire net worth😂. I should’ve stayed another year at CC.
It’s so expensive
I thought CC was much harder depends on your school tho, and your major at CC the eng department is much worse than uni and the tests were all on paper the height grades for phy were 70 and there was no curve, for Cal tests were 100% no hw meanwhile in Syracuse the test were 50% for the business classes they were free tho unproctored online tests and free grades however all sunys usually have that for business classes.
Yeah your experience is definitely altered by your major.
Can I study in community colleges in US for free? (With a grant or scholarship?) I’m international student and cannot afford to pay for this
Yes you can apply for scholarships. Community college is already pretty affordable too
im confused is there a differences in having a cc bachelors from a bachelors in a 4 yrs uni???
For the most part community colleges only offer associates degrees and universities offer bachelor’s degrees
@@adamramirez1 would it be recommended to get the bachelors from university or from a cc?/
@@danielobio from a university
Can a student work part-time on campus in a community college?
Yeah they can!
Hii! Would you recommend transferring after one year of cc? :)
That’s what I’m doing. I’d recommend it
@@ancellery6430 hey how is it going? i wanna know if I can do the same thing but I'm paranoid since my grades in high school arent the best
@@rezi9754 I'll see if I get into UCLA in a few weeks
Are you from Boston brotha?!
California brotha
I just arrived usa 4 months ago, i am senior high school but i dont know should i go to cc or 4 year? i have completed my credits as an international student but not completed as other regular students, i have an option to become super senior for one more year of semester in high school but i am not sure to stay and complete my credits as regular student and apply to uc or go to cc for 1 or 2 year then transfer? what do you recomend?
If you go to cc you have a higher chance of getting accepted into to top universities and you get started on your bachelors degree. I would ask a counselor about the nuances since you’re an international student.
can cc credits transfer to out of state universities
Yup
Do you have to graduate with associate degree to be able to transfer?
No just your transfer requirements
No, you might want to though...if you have a specialized associates degree, you have something to fall back on, and can get into the work force immediately.. and that work experience matters if its related to your major.. it will make your upper level courses more interesting, and easier.
@@user-bc4uz9tp8k yes you can probably get into the workforce for a blue collar job but to land an entry level job with only an associates degree is near impossible and a waste of time
@@user-bc4uz9tp8k how long is an associates degree?
Join your CC Honors Program!!
do most ccs have them?
Do you have any tips for getting interships while at community college?
Yeah I can go into detail on this and if you want precise guidance just message me. But to keep it short:
1. Figure out what industry or position you want to pursue.
2. Create and tailor a resume to the position you want to pursue.
3. Create a linkedin to apply to those roles because now a days all the sought after positions are posted on linkedin so you're missing out on a lot in you don't have the app.
May I know how about your GPA in your high school
3.3 UW I think
You should join the church at Berkeley.
Do I have to do 2 years of CC or can I just do 1 semester and transfer?
You can do one semester if you have the requirements to transfer but usually it takes two semesters minimum
“Brutal” okay… 😂
so brutal
man i feel like yall just go to school with the wrong expectations, if it was easy then everyone would do it.
You can still expect it to be difficult but you won’t know how many hours you’re actually gonna be putting in unless you’re living it.