Are 40 Card YuGiOh Decks Bad?

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  • čas přidán 7. 02. 2017
  • We're used to running 40 cards in all of our decks! Or at least, that's what we've been told. But lately, it seems like Konami is challenging that tradition...
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  • @TeamAPS
    @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +96

    Thanks for watching! Let's aim for 500 Likes!
    What do you guys think about this? Is Konami trying to challenge the 40 card deck building tradition? Do you like it? Let's talk!

    • @dipndrip533
      @dipndrip533 Před 7 lety +2

      Team APS in my experience unless your deck is incredibly fine tuned it is always better to have the limit of 40 cards

    • @amethonys8494
      @amethonys8494 Před 7 lety

      david rodriguez iirc when gadgets were "meta" you ran like 43 to be the most "effecient" while making it HIGHLY unlikely you drew 2 of the same gadget.

    • @christopherhenley8808
      @christopherhenley8808 Před 7 lety +2

      Team APS this is the problem I had in That Grass Gem-Knights. It was nuts when it went off, the this issue of running 50-60 cards in Gem-knights wasn't worth it. It made the deck more inconsistent and I might not have ever seen That Grass. Risk outweighed the reward here IMO.

    • @Rncko
      @Rncko Před 7 lety +1

      Agree with Amethonys. For non-meta its like you don't want to draw into your /Assault monster.

    • @SyrinoxNight
      @SyrinoxNight Před 7 lety +1

      Well, remember Lightsworns? Those decks were basically about milling yourself out, for their graveyard effects.

  • @kujo9927
    @kujo9927 Před 7 lety +126

    Konami has left us with a "Painful Choice"

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +20

      touche

    • @SH_Zardy
      @SH_Zardy Před 6 lety +1

      A card with a similar name... Painful Decision. If only the Exodia pieces weren't limited. Oh if only. If you ran even just two sets of Exodia (but no it's limited to one) with one set to draw and the other set to send to the grave you'd pretty much win every game. Obliterate!!! and The Legendary Exodia Incarnate would help significantly as well. Pop opponent's monsters back to the hand, a nearly invincible monster on your side of the field, you'd have all the time in the world. Don't believe it? Try me.... I'll adjust my Exodia deck and the Duel would be over with the frustrated loser being badly beaten and proven wrong. But of course none of this matters bc Exodia and the limbs are all limited. I can see why. Bring it haters, you know I'm right. Try. Me. "Super casual player" signing off.

    • @Birginio420
      @Birginio420 Před 5 lety

      lmao

  • @EddtheRexMan
    @EddtheRexMan Před 7 lety +124

    When I used to play, I'd run a 41 card lightsworn deck just to frustrate the snobs at locals :L

    • @kossur10
      @kossur10 Před 7 lety +9

      Edward Dibley id always use 45 cards for blue eyes

    • @travisback123
      @travisback123 Před 7 lety +16

      with one upstart lol

    • @lillith7257
      @lillith7257 Před 7 lety +4

      Edward Dibley I run a 42 lol
      technically you can run about 45 to be top tier in lightsworns. 40 is no longer viable if you're going to run traps and preformpals on top of your already full deck. there are two preformpals that help lightsworns.

    • @AVAL2775
      @AVAL2775 Před 7 lety +1

      40 normally but than again i enjoy expodia

    • @RabidFox-rz9qr
      @RabidFox-rz9qr Před 7 lety +3

      Edward Dibley I run 46 or so in my Shadoll-Lightsworn hybrid. It works rather well.

  • @WiiKingMattitude24
    @WiiKingMattitude24 Před 7 lety +41

    ygopro broke me, 41+ decks look so weird on it.

  • @chuckp1506
    @chuckp1506 Před 7 lety +20

    I like to use 50-60
    but I only play with my friends, not locals.
    I just like the variety and different stuff that can happen

  • @bobhollywood6292
    @bobhollywood6292 Před 6 lety +8

    I haven't played YGO since 2004, and I have no idea what is being said. But I can't stop watching these videos.

  • @ChaoticAnamnesis
    @ChaoticAnamnesis Před 7 lety +73

    I still run 50 from the Yugi Starter Deck xD

  • @EdgyVidyaGeneral
    @EdgyVidyaGeneral Před 7 lety +64

    Nice clickbait title. Nowhere in this vid did you talk about how the 40 card format is bad

    • @longblack666
      @longblack666 Před 7 lety +2

      C H O D E W R A N G L E R seriously? it's about how people are using larger decks to run pot of desires.
      he litterally explained it in the first 10 seconds...

    • @EdgyVidyaGeneral
      @EdgyVidyaGeneral Před 7 lety +6

      That's explaining why more than 40 might work with that card, not why 40 is bad overall. Use your critical thinking skills.

    • @longblack666
      @longblack666 Před 7 lety +3

      C H O D E W R A N G L E R The idea of a title is to get people to watch the video. You watched the video.
      he didn't say exactly that it was bad, however he explained why people prefer not to run 40 cards.
      if it bothers you that much, don't watch the video.
      problem solved.

    • @EdgyVidyaGeneral
      @EdgyVidyaGeneral Před 7 lety +19

      "if you don't like the video, don't watch it"
      How would I know whether he was click baiting or not until I watched it? I understand you're trying to defend yourself here but don't say stupid things. It's really easy to see through

    • @longblack666
      @longblack666 Před 7 lety

      C H O D E W R A N G L E R perhaps you've just read into this incorrectly.
      you've assumed, that because Paul didn't state EXACTLY what his title said, then he's doing it for views.
      you do know just because people don't say the title of the video, doesn't mean it's clickbait.
      you've only put 2 possible outcomes into your comment, perhaps next time you could expand on your explanation and explain why you think it's clickbait.
      it could've been a typo, a misinformed title, a bad clarification and so on. did you watch the entire video before posting your comment?

  • @casketbase7750
    @casketbase7750 Před 7 lety +66

    My favorite thing about these two cards is that you can convince yourself you don't need them. As a poor person, I love cards like that.

    • @Steamedhams578
      @Steamedhams578 Před 7 lety +2

      But u don't really need them at all!......right??

    • @casketbase7750
      @casketbase7750 Před 7 lety +4

      I've never even tested them. I don't want to want them.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +9

      I like this mentality too lol

    • @darthdoody6238
      @darthdoody6238 Před 7 lety +2

      I use cards like reload and pot of duality. I hate cards that mil and just throw things away cuz I always end up dumping the good shit I need.

    • @Steamedhams578
      @Steamedhams578 Před 7 lety +2

      Part of why i really like Blue-eyes decks is because you actually benefit from milling cards with trade-in and consonance in most cases while also getting the consistency. Decks nowadays search out cards so easily so desires definitely isn't auto-include and that's a great thing.

  • @homingice6444
    @homingice6444 Před 4 lety +9

    Never really cared for card size as long as it's legal and felt like its more of using your cards to their fullest potential.

  • @DG_Raizen
    @DG_Raizen Před 7 lety +4

    First time I've saw one of your videos. I enjoy how you explain things in detail in a simple way that anyone can understand. That ability to work with both competitive and casuals is rare. You've definitely earned a sub!

  • @TeamAPS
    @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +106

    Notification Squad ASSEMBLE!!!

  • @thebarians1348
    @thebarians1348 Před 7 lety +18

    I've always used close to 60

  • @DimzysDomain
    @DimzysDomain Před 7 lety +5

    I have been enjoying your videos for a number of years now. and I don't comment much and I've changed accounts and made a channel so I've recently re subscribed.
    thank you Paul, and thank the rest of Team APS because your channel is downright phenomenal.
    and I'm a 57 card player purely because I can't fit all my cards into my deck :)

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks for the long time support, man! I really do appreciate it! Are you considering running Desires/Grass if it becomes more affordable?

  • @DadBodShang
    @DadBodShang Před 7 lety +3

    Yo Team APS! I just wanna let you know I've only discovered you guys yesterday but I absolutely love your channel. I've binged through a lot of your videos and you've tackled a lot of subjects that I used to be confused about and also got rid of any hang ups I used to have about the game. Plus all of your personalities are very enjoyable. Thank you for putting out regular content, I really appreciate it. Have a nice day, all!

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks! Reading this made my day! :D

  • @justinli8262
    @justinli8262 Před 7 lety +3

    i found fluffals a really hard deck to be playing 40, especially with op search cards and draw engines like frightfur patchwork, penguin, and wings. Foolish burial chain and you can get frightfur patchwork; foolish burial with goods coming out soon can mill toy vendor or factory and add. I'm playing at around 45

  • @jacobmonks3722
    @jacobmonks3722 Před 7 lety +37

    When Upstart Goblin was still at 3 I played 43 cards in my deck with 3 Upstarts because I needed more discard fodder for Summoner Monk.

    • @BaumgratzE
      @BaumgratzE Před 7 lety +3

      using upstart goblin in a deck with 41 cards or more is dumb.

    • @angelg.7820
      @angelg.7820 Před 7 lety +5

      Having the mentality that "it's a 37 card deck" is technically dumber. Those 3 cards could be potentially better combo pieces than what you hope to draw for. Let people play how they want .

    • @BaumgratzE
      @BaumgratzE Před 7 lety +1

      Angel Gallegos Sanchez they can play how they want, but if you have a deck that has more than 40 cards and upstart goblin, u have an useless card

    • @arroganceygo
      @arroganceygo Před 7 lety +1

      actually it isnt, its more of a luck kind of thing. just not for a deck thinning purpose. and it also depends on how much draw and search is in the deck and why.

    • @unit900000
      @unit900000 Před 7 lety +4

      the reason he uses it makes sense though.

  • @alexericson4046
    @alexericson4046 Před 7 lety +1

    Just started watching and I'm really enjoying the videos mate. One of the best yugioh channels on CZcams, keep up the good work - your British fan base is growing!

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +1

      Thanks so much! Glad to have you onboard. Greetings from the States! ^_^

  • @atmmachine11
    @atmmachine11 Před 7 lety

    I love your videos man, keep up the great content!

  • @mnemonic6047
    @mnemonic6047 Před 7 lety

    hey guys , i started playing yu gi oh in 2008 when i was a kid at 12 years old ,
    i recently started to play the card game again and im lost
    you can have a deck between 40-60 + fusion , xyz ?
    like i can have 60 normal cards and i can put like 5 or 10 fusion and xyz cards on top of the deck making it 70ish cards?
    im just lost , i was used to play 40 cards in a deck before ...

  • @weeneedapoop2315
    @weeneedapoop2315 Před 5 lety +2

    I usually play 43-47 the extras are traps that most players regret not having bottomless, toruntal, magic cylinder, breakthrough. Just to name a few.

  • @Alex_U_
    @Alex_U_ Před 7 lety

    I am thinking of running grass in lightsworn (50 cards ish) thoughts?

  • @w47765
    @w47765 Před 7 lety +3

    I've been clicking the videos as of late because the random facial expressions we've been getting in them always makes me laugh.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +1

      Yay, I'm doing something right! XD

  • @_Slypi
    @_Slypi Před 7 lety

    Your videos are so good! Hope you get to 50,000 soon. You deserve it

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      Thanks so much! I'm almost there!

  • @Thomastm33
    @Thomastm33 Před 7 lety

    Would 3 rise of the true dragon structure decks be worth investing in for a new player? or is it too weak at its current state?

  • @pheonixphantom792
    @pheonixphantom792 Před 5 lety

    Can I use 60 main card deck and a 15 card extra deck or not

  • @Chiefs_Fan_91
    @Chiefs_Fan_91 Před 7 lety +8

    Congrats on 49,116 subs. SOO CLOSE TO 50K

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +4

      Thanks! I can see the goal in the distance!

  • @gorillazfan_vt
    @gorillazfan_vt Před 6 lety

    I have a 40 card Blue Eyes deck, but I don’t know if I should run it at 41 and add Anti-spell fragrance. Also I run it with Pot of Acquisitiveness.

  • @AyeEfQue
    @AyeEfQue Před 7 lety

    i love your videos fam, going to get back into this game

  • @RSDandFriends
    @RSDandFriends Před 7 lety +5

    I like having a variety of options. I dont think deck size matters as long as it works for ur strategy. I also dont think people should feel intimidated if they play someone with a 60 card deck. Focus on having fun with using ur strategy and seeing what someone else's deck can do.

    • @MoldMonkey93
      @MoldMonkey93 Před 2 lety

      I’m not going to be intimidated by a wall made of bricks but it depends on the archetype and how they naturally thin decks out

  • @DarklordEvanGold
    @DarklordEvanGold Před 7 lety

    I want That Grass for my Lightsworn deck, but I'm not sure what 10-15 more cards to add. Maybe Shaddoll Dragon and Shaddoll Beast could be useful. Or what about Farfa?

  • @ezekielcrespo5307
    @ezekielcrespo5307 Před 7 lety +1

    I typically run 42 or 45 cards. There are just some cards I have to have for my builds. A lot of traps and spells that counter the new monsters effects.

    • @natedog9452
      @natedog9452 Před 4 lety

      I cap mine at 45 too. I think I only have like 1 or 2 decks that are right at 40, then I have a few that are 41-43, and then most of mine are at 45. I like to have a little more variety with my decks. And I have one deck that's at 50 and it actually plays pretty well for a casual deck

  • @TheDaringstDo
    @TheDaringstDo Před 7 lety +2

    most of my decks run around 46-48 cards, It lets me tech in some other stuff, kaijus, floodgates and then the main 40 is generally the rest of the deck thats specific to whatever im playing

  • @azrael8598
    @azrael8598 Před 6 lety

    It depends on the average number of turns u normal go at with ur deck and decks ur usually up again say duels end between 7-10 turns so how much deck do u have left after u win that should tell u if u need more if u win and ur always like 2-3 cards left that should tell u what helps u more I like mine thin since I blitz so if the duel last long I lose anyway

  • @voxomnes9537
    @voxomnes9537 Před 7 lety +22

    That's a weird ass title. 40 card decks aren't bad, nor will it ever be. A question like this video's title (or was it a declaration?) would never be asked. 40 card decks aren't the only deck size capacity now, that's all.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +28

      Something something clickbait something something

    • @vestra4446
      @vestra4446 Před 7 lety +1

      Team APS :D

    • @asacstudios4299
      @asacstudios4299 Před 6 lety

      Anime Otaku SLAP DAT ASS TITLE SNOB.

    • @DiddyKongVsLuigi
      @DiddyKongVsLuigi Před 6 lety

      Maybe make your own video? Not trying to be a douche, just saying, let that be an inspiration.

  • @ReallyPhilly215
    @ReallyPhilly215 Před 7 lety +15

    40 cards don't matter anymore as long as you got a deck with a search engine it won't matter a 60 card deck can perform just as well as a 40 yugioh isn't yugioh anymore it's way past what it once was years ago it's like magic the gathering is Street fighter and yugioh is marvel VS capcom just crazy shit

    • @chaddoom7993
      @chaddoom7993 Před 4 lety

      Damn right!
      Good to see another Master duelist like myself on here dropping some knowledge on all these noobs!

  • @tacoseries7281
    @tacoseries7281 Před 6 lety +5

    In my Dino deck, I have 60 cards. (It isn't that new meta deck, I like dinosaur decks cause I like dinosaurs, not because of how overpowered they are) my win ratio is about 65%, is that ok?

    • @reececamptenmyers6063
      @reececamptenmyers6063 Před 5 lety

      Eh. Could be better. Good though.

    • @chaddoom7993
      @chaddoom7993 Před 4 lety +1

      It's perfect since you clearly aren't using the deck for any other reason than because you love it.

  • @JustLeagueCuriosity
    @JustLeagueCuriosity Před 7 lety

    Where are you guys located? Louisiana?

  • @Sandalphonium
    @Sandalphonium Před 7 lety

    What if I was already running Necroface?

  • @BK-wl6hy
    @BK-wl6hy Před 7 lety +1

    What Do You guys think about heraldic Metalfoes?

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      Sounds creative. I've never seen it done, so I'd have to catch that in action. Give it a try!

    • @BK-wl6hy
      @BK-wl6hy Před 7 lety

      +Team APS thanks man it is a very powerful Deck i am going to Buy these metalfoes Cards so i can have the deck

  • @littlesluger2672
    @littlesluger2672 Před 7 lety

    Song?

  • @RomeoBarnes
    @RomeoBarnes Před 7 lety +5

    I was running over 40 way before it was cool. I run a 45-card volcanics and a 60-card zombie deck. And I built both of them before these cards were spoiled in fact I built them both during the Duelist Alliance era. But yes Paul I agree this is a great design concept it brings a lot of complexity to the game

    • @Aryzo
      @Aryzo Před 7 lety +3

      Romeo Barnes you also ran it before it was logical, without cards such as that grass looks greener, that just doesn't make any sense

    • @RomeoBarnes
      @RomeoBarnes Před 7 lety +3

      Ummm... no because i'm not an idiot. It's called building your deck to be mathematically perfect. For example my 60 card zombies(the original version) ran 9 search cards and 3 upstart.(3 goblin zombie, 3 pyramid turtle, 3 Pot of Duality, 3 Upstart Goblin) 60 divided 12 is 5 meaning statistically i'd always open with a deck thinner in my opening hand since we start with 5 cards(pile shuffling is your friend). And that doesn't include Allure, Card Trooper, Shutendoji, Foolish Burial, or any cards from the small lightsworn engine I ran in the deck. Let's not forget that Lavalal Chain was a turn 2 deck thinner that set up really explosive plays. There were certain cards I wanted to play because I liked the interactions they created but I couldn't cut my engine without giving up consistency therefore I used proper math to stabilize the deck and maintain consistency so that I could play what I wanted. This same mathematical approach was applied to gadgets upon their release to create 5th gadget.(9 gadgets=45) A strategy that was so popular both here and japan that Konami put all the original gadgets((red, green, and yellow) to 2. Don't assume someone doesn't know what they are doing or is doing something wrong because what they are doing is not "normal."

    • @Thephantomofdusk
      @Thephantomofdusk Před 7 lety

      +Romeo Barnes 45 card volcanics? I'm interested.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +1

      The early adopter, I see. I feels ya.

  • @thepurpleturtle7595
    @thepurpleturtle7595 Před 7 lety

    you should do a tournament between the whole team aps, BTW keep making great vids

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      Sounds like a good idea. Maybe one day we'll all be in the same place at the same time.

  • @impish97
    @impish97 Před 7 lety

    woud love to see a video about x unexpected decks that won certain tournaments/ycs maybe with explanation how that all worked out. like those 60 card shaddoll ba decks that sounds really interesting.

  • @CyclizarTrainer
    @CyclizarTrainer Před 6 lety +1

    Which is better, 40 or 50 or 60 cards? 🤔

  • @jengidie6671
    @jengidie6671 Před 7 lety +1

    It depends on the decks focus and aim is, most decks don't need over 40 cards to achieve their end game. Whereas some decks like Lawnmowing decks can potentially combo off more often with more than 40 cards. Just depends on which deck you're running and what you want.

  • @Akira2805
    @Akira2805 Před 7 lety

    I think I might have a right answer when using that grass looks greener. Ive already taken this into account into my current lightsworn build. I changed it up a lot after getting my hands on three copies of the grass looks greener. I've added in mutiple shaddolls, BLS, rainbow kuribohs, and traps that utilize the grave. So what I did, i took my basic 40 card lightsworn deck that I ran before, and added in 20 cards that would benefit from being in the grave, or being sent to the grave.

  • @Marcusjnmc
    @Marcusjnmc Před 7 lety +1

    in my Zoodiac deck I run my 40 cards & add about 4 search targets I'd rather not see in my opening hand, it generally works very well & only once caused a problem when I managed to draw 3 of them on turn 1 with a twin twister & a kaiju xP which reinforces the point that those cards are good to add in addition to the 40 card the main deck so they're less likely to be drawn

  • @Opekillz
    @Opekillz Před 7 lety

    there is monster effect that gains atk by how many face down banish cards there are in the graveyard...pot of disire would be great for this thanks

  • @BigPimpin1217
    @BigPimpin1217 Před 7 lety

    i play a deck centered around eater of millions and gren maju da eiza which uses 3 desires but the deck is only 40 cards since i wanna go as sanic as possible.

  • @s2_nati
    @s2_nati Před 7 lety

    Team APS this video was pretty cool. I didn't expect to see this type of point of view.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      That's what I'm all about! Gotta represent the other side of the coin.

  • @alejandroerazo9935
    @alejandroerazo9935 Před 6 lety +6

    Voice crack at 4:03

  • @determinate2176
    @determinate2176 Před 5 lety

    I've been running 40 cards in different decks when I started playing yugioh, and I remember using localized tornado in one of them to shuffle all my cards in both my hands and in graveyard to prevent myself from decking out

  • @gabrielreed1096
    @gabrielreed1096 Před 7 lety

    how is pot of greed broken?

  • @SlothAnime
    @SlothAnime Před 7 lety

    also I think that some people aren't running desires for consistency but for that +1 that helps you make a bigger board or win the game because you drew desires and got that one extra card to end the game that turn

  • @ziggystardust1973
    @ziggystardust1973 Před 7 lety +4

    The grass looks greener is good in some decks, but there are also decks that don't really benefit from cards being in the grave. I wouldn't for example use either of them in Yang Zing

    • @amethonys8494
      @amethonys8494 Před 7 lety +1

      Tobias F That's the whole point of the cards though. You definitely shouldn't run either of them in decks that.....synergizes well with itself and doesn't use the graveyard. Also, s/t heavy decks wouldn't like either of these cards because of how (generally) useless those cards are in the graveyard COMPARED to monsters.
      Decks like YZ, Nekroz, almost anything pendulum (besides Qli but is that REALLY a pendulum deck), Dark Magician, etc. would probably not run either of these cards because the added draw power doesn't outweigh potentially losing your best cards (Jiatou, Dark Magic Circle, most of your ritual MONSTERS, etc.).

    • @ziggystardust1973
      @ziggystardust1973 Před 7 lety

      Yes, of course. I was just point out the (obvious) point that there are decks which can use this perfectly (like Lightsworn) and decks that can't

  • @senbonxx25
    @senbonxx25 Před 7 lety

    you were talking about that grass look green could be inconsistent well you just have to run 3 of that grass look greener and 3 left arm offering.

  • @ChimericGaming
    @ChimericGaming Před 7 lety

    I'm glad you touched on desires because I had tweeted you about this.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      You may have just inspired this very video...

    • @ChimericGaming
      @ChimericGaming Před 7 lety +1

      Well if I did, cool, glad I could help in some way in giving you more content to work with. If not, well I'm still glad.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      Chimeric Gaming You did lol

    • @ChimericGaming
      @ChimericGaming Před 7 lety +1

      Oh cool. Glad I could help.

  • @ZGMFXGN0042
    @ZGMFXGN0042 Před 6 lety

    can 41 cards works on DDD deck?
    21 monsters
    10 Spells
    10 Traps
    all DDD extra deck monsters

  • @buckwade3874
    @buckwade3874 Před 7 lety

    I'm torn with my Elemental Hero deck: I wanna run 3x Woodsman, Shadowmist, Blazeman, but I also wanna run classics like Avian, Bladedge. But if I wanna do that, I gotta put E-call, Reinforcement, and Hero Lives in my spell/traps places instead of the monster cards.

  • @crypticgamingstudios1659

    I tent to run desires at 1 and only play it when I need to, because if i brick now adays i I lose so its worth the risk those 2 cards could unbrick me or at least my my hand playable

  • @shawnp8027
    @shawnp8027 Před 7 lety

    i like going to walmart, buying 10 random pacjs, making a deck and actually winning. great vid, keep em coming.

  • @aleinskaterkid2012
    @aleinskaterkid2012 Před 7 lety

    this has gotta be the best yugioh channel

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      +mr.sno-ballz Thank you!

  • @wren5413
    @wren5413 Před 7 lety

    That grass looks greener can be used in 40 card decks to mill 3-4 cards and can be combo-ed with Exodius to send all your monsters in grave to your deck and then mill a lot.

  • @lanceknightmare
    @lanceknightmare Před 6 lety

    I don't have Pot of Desires or Grass Looks Greener. I would like desires in my deck. I could play Pot of Duality, Pot of Desires and Pot of......whatever. It let's you take five cards from your graveyard and shuffle them into the deck, then draw one card. I think Kurribo Bandit would be an answer to. How do I draw Grass Looks Greener?

  • @WIZA327
    @WIZA327 Před 7 lety +1

    I like it. This gives a new layer to deck building. The way I look at it:
    If you are unsure how to properly build a deck, or are a novice deck builder, 40 cards is the way to go because its the safer choice. You can't go wrong with having a slim and consistent deck.
    However, with a lot of experience and knowledge of the game, it can very well depend on your own playstyle or function of the deck. It is up to the player if they think they can build the deck with 50 some cards without killing the consistency or win condition of the deck.

  • @toto789land
    @toto789land Před 7 lety +9

    basically power versus consistency
    consistency is overall better but it depends on a lot of things, the meta, your card choices etc (your luck? ^^)
    overall i think that running more than 40 is now at least somewhat tenable, it wasn't really the case some format ago imo

  • @sleepfacenightfall
    @sleepfacenightfall Před 7 lety +1

    40 card timelord deck can still utilize pot of desires, as they all go back to the main deck. so maybe see some more archetypes with that kind of effect in the future.

  • @desalsas2626
    @desalsas2626 Před 7 lety

    That grass looks greener is perfect in my lightsworn deck to get out 2 seplons turn one

  • @thekrispiestkreme5609
    @thekrispiestkreme5609 Před 7 lety +2

    I like it because it makes you think well before you actually play LOL. lots of times people (I'm super guilty of this too) just kinda look to channels for deck build ideas or just full on copy decks because-hey it topped at YCS so and so or it won at such and such, but really they omit the learning process of how to think on your feet and how to really maximize the most of these cards. I've started thinking outside the box in scrapping up together some ancient gear decks (cuze I'm hyped AF) and some D/D/D's (cuze I actually want to learn how to play pendulums) and majority builds I find use cards like ties, twin twisters, pot of desires, etc etc, and it though clearly it works for some players, it doesn't work for me, and so my challenge then becomes, if I'm not gonna use these cards, then what can I use to get that same consistency, or if I want to downplay this, what can I tech in to compensate for the slower speed etc etc, it makes the deck feel more personal and lets me play to my strengths instead of just going with whats popular for the sake of whats popular.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      Great thought. I'm also a fan of having to do a bit of decision making when deck building. 60 cards may be better for that.

  • @fopipilop
    @fopipilop Před 7 lety

    Well, I think doing this kind of thing just gives more variety towards deck building. Crazy combos every other game could win before, but now you can go for a more consistent deck or a more combo-based deck. Also, anyone tried a pure Eyes of Blue blue-eyes deck with all the level 1s? It actually works.

  • @mikek.1250
    @mikek.1250 Před 6 lety

    I dont use pot of desires but I totally use Grass in my 60 card lightsworn deck. I use it along with 3x left arm offering and 3x mallets to get it out really fast. Aside for gettig out Grass left arm offering also fullfills the summoning condition for twilightsworns and PD.
    I just noticed one thing though.
    Decks with 40 cards tend to be very linear while 60 card decks tend to have multiple win conditions if build correct and are not that easy to shutdown. Apart from that it gives me joy to copy the first 40 cards of a deck from topdecks and then experiment myself which other 20 cards synergize the most with my deck. For example I found a way to summon Naturia Beast in my Lightsworn build without compromising my deck to much and all cards included also synergize really well with the rest of my deck.

  • @Syntherus
    @Syntherus Před 4 lety

    I usually cap it at 46. Weird number, I know. I sometimes have issues eliminating cards from my deck.

  • @caseyflannery9086
    @caseyflannery9086 Před 7 lety

    max i go for in all my decks is 45 cards with a few exceptions and if i have to go to like 46 or 47 i ll do it if ik i need all the cards and can't take anything out for them

  • @BaumgratzE
    @BaumgratzE Před 7 lety +4

    I really think the decks will still using 40 cards, except decks life infernoids and decks that have effects activating in the graveyard.

  • @arielramos9963
    @arielramos9963 Před 7 lety

    I definitely am at a point where 40 cards isn't enough I increase draw power and make decks that consistently summon my powerful monsters but then I have no room for cards to protect my monsters or keep them on the field and I've been struggling to keep it at 40 but now I might want to exceed that number

  • @4realbrussell850
    @4realbrussell850 Před 5 lety

    Bro I just realized how you have not a lot of subscribers i watch you almost daily like where are the fans???

  • @sekiryuutei2680
    @sekiryuutei2680 Před 7 lety +1

    In my opinion, the 40 card format is arguably the best for 9/10 YGO decks out there because the consistency and speed of the deck are at its best. Cards like Pot of Desires and The Grass Looks Greener on the other hand, would work wonders for decks that skillfully utilize the other two card zones, specifically the graveyard and banished zone. Konami is basically expanding the game creatively, giving fellow Duelists more options to play decks like Lightsworns. But I agree with the people who highly recommend taking out a Pot of Desires in a 40 card deck and replacing it with a lower-cost card like the usual Upstart Goblin or Pot of Duality, etc. Anyway, thanks for the insightful video.

  • @karath8093
    @karath8093 Před 7 lety

    I have a 42 card deck, runs on slifer snd defence monsters, kinda works

  • @princeofnightmare8908
    @princeofnightmare8908 Před 7 lety

    Can you make a video explaining yugioh like I haven't played in years I'm just getting back in to it so is the different from the original yugioh are rules different as I can see there are some new cards

  • @demonwings2099
    @demonwings2099 Před 7 lety

    left arm offering, if ur playing lightsworn turbo you could play magical stone excavation

  • @JonoSSD
    @JonoSSD Před 7 lety +1

    Something that could make 60 decks cards more viable and less "rogue" (at best) would be a better spell search. This way, you could run 3 Grass and 3 (insert spell-searching spell here), increasing the chances of using it in the first turn.
    I know we have lots of ways to search for spells, but I find most of them very specific, the "you have to build your deck with that archetype" specific. Meanwhile, That Grass Looks Greener looks like a fun card and 60 card decks sound fun, but like Paul said, with a deck that big you just won't see the card around that much. Or any other card for your combo.

  • @chucklesdeclown8819
    @chucklesdeclown8819 Před 7 lety

    it depends on what deck your running because some decks like to mill and some do not, some like to banish and some do not.

  • @spanishboi7
    @spanishboi7 Před 7 lety

    I like to run between 40 and 45. I try to stay in the 42 range, but have run as many as 45 for some decks. Those cards I feel are good for the game in terms of diversity of decks and deck building challenges. I personally am hesitant to run them just because I fear the price may not be worth it for y play style (both literally and figuratively). I am also coming from a place where I don't own either card (returning player) so that could all change if I ever do get it or actually try to make it work

  • @akuma2095
    @akuma2095 Před 7 lety +1

    always had a 60 card deck for my main deck and still won, got many decks tho

  • @teamsamer702x9
    @teamsamer702x9 Před 7 lety

    left arm offering ??

  • @pokemaster3830
    @pokemaster3830 Před 7 lety

    I feel like for me I don't like the idea of playing desires and Or that grass bc I feel like anything that is over like 45 at max is too inconsistent and you aren't even going to see them when I some times have issues seeing non searchable cards I play 3 of in a 40 card deck with cards that deck thin. Personally I think 12 cards out of your deck for desires( banish 10 and the 2 you draw) is too many resources I mean what if I banish cards I needed for plays? The only deck I would play desires in is a eater of millions deck where it actually helps me to have banished cards

  • @grantharrell5434
    @grantharrell5434 Před 6 lety

    My decks usually average around 43-45 with a few searchers and increase draw with supply squad for my 45 chaos deck. My vampire deck for example runs 43 cards since vampire kingdom can eat through the deck, and my dragon ruler deck when I ran it had the same number of 43 since I tried to send several cards to the grave. My removal deck has 43 as well but with three pot of desires. Personally I have always felt that the 40 cards in a deck does not always guarantee better draws than say 43 or 45 card decks. I don't think a deck runs as well with say 55-60 cards though, but I suppose it is dependent on the strategy.

  • @riflesans9286
    @riflesans9286 Před 4 lety

    This is usefull thanks

  • @impish97
    @impish97 Před 7 lety

    3x left hand offering ->6x grass looks greener. you should have enough advantage with synchro/xyz lightsworn and infernoid

  • @yuseifudo7987
    @yuseifudo7987 Před 5 lety

    It actually depends because of how you use your cards and add your favorite cards creating your ultimate/legendary deck so for me it should have been for me I would say 40-80 extra deck unbelievable number of cards in the extra deck because I have both use 40-60 & 80 and my extra deck was 20+ so I say they shpuld also change the format and return instead of putting the pendulum zone in the spell/trap zone and creating 2+ extra monster zone thank you.

  • @BeatlesRul
    @BeatlesRul Před 7 lety

    I really enjoyed this video. Something I have noticed about Pot of Desires though is that it really puts the current top decks even farther ahead of decks that have started to get powercrept. You wouldn't run Pot of Desires in decks like Burning Abyss and Kozmo because you would be worried about banishing key cards like Cir/Graff and Dark Destroyer. Meanwhile decks like ABC, Metalfoes, Majespecters, Blue-Eyes, Paleozoics, etc. all have no problem running Desires whatsoever because they don't have key combo pieces that can be banished easily. Interestingly enough though, Zoodiacs can't run this because they don't want to banish any copies of Molmorat. However, this is what I think Konami really intended to do when they printed this card, to create a rift further so that it promotes these decks to be played and they can continue to get sales out of them while they are doing well in tournaments. If you get a chance, let me know what you think!

  • @jessiepvlogs8948
    @jessiepvlogs8948 Před 5 lety

    I run 50 elemental hero deck but since there’s heaps of hero stuff sometimes 60

  • @jojoker3180
    @jojoker3180 Před 7 lety +11

    i have 34 card in my deck, screw the rules a have money

  • @samanthasalt9696
    @samanthasalt9696 Před 7 lety +3

    also a flaw is that if your both running 60 cards That Grass Looks Greener becomes useless

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety

      I meant to point that out in the video, but since it was off the dome, I forgot. Very valid concern, as well. It makes the card that much more dynamic!

  • @GreycatRademenes
    @GreycatRademenes Před 7 lety

    For a long time I questioned if Pot of Green would be unbanned, would it make that much of a difference other than being a staple. Don't get me wrong, I understand the fact that even 1 single card, especially at the beginning can mean win/loose.
    What I mean is that with all the draw/search power and cards that give us +1, +2, +3, can we still call PoG really that broken?

  • @mayoknight
    @mayoknight Před 5 lety

    I think having more than 40 cards in a deck is not a bad idea. I agree with you that it is challenging to figure out how to improve the consistency of your deck. I have been testing many of my current decks and I saw that sometimes they brick. So I had ask the following question on each deck:
    1. What's the goal of this deck, or what is it that I want it to do?
    2. Can I incorporate some other cards (besides hand traps) with this deck?
    3. How consistent I want this deck to be?
    4. Can this deck still work with one or two additional cards?
    5. Is it still possible to run 40 cards this deck without constantly bricking?
    There are more questions to deck building and improvement. The 5 questions above are my main ones.

  • @TheRoyalPharaoh23
    @TheRoyalPharaoh23 Před 5 lety

    i usually go 50 and it works out, ive even had duels where people run out of cards before i did

  • @davidhobbs5679
    @davidhobbs5679 Před 4 lety

    Honestly it depends id say, if the deck is run with a lot of consistency through multiple monsters/cards (say shadoll or slamangreats) then the extra consistency is only useful in allowing you to add more win conditions and the consisitency is high enough that it isn't a problem having an extra 5 or 10 cards. I sometimes run 45 cards with six sam just for the extra space for hand traps. If a deck is slow enough that it needs these cards to me screams that adding the extra cards will make it worse. Also until there's more controll focused archetypes in the game yugioh will always favour smaller decks. Since the extra cards aren't going to be needed unless the game drags on for more than 5 turns.

  • @LukesYuGiOhChannel
    @LukesYuGiOhChannel Před 7 lety +1

    Maybe I should a 60 cards infinite search kind of deck.

    • @TeamAPS
      @TeamAPS  Před 7 lety +1

      In theory something like Burning Abyss or Yang Zings could totally push this role.

    • @LukesYuGiOhChannel
      @LukesYuGiOhChannel Před 7 lety

      Yeah that would be true. Could even mix them up with other archetypes like Gadget, Machina, Traptix & Seraph just to make things interesting and added search power.