Apple Pencil vs Huawei M Pencil: Full test and comparison
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- See the differences between Apple Pencil and Huawei M Pencil (made for Huawei Matepad Pro).
CONTENTS
00:00 - Design
02:06 - Pressure and tilt sensitivity
02:38 - Pen tip replacement
03:55 - Test for accuracy, wobble, jitter
05:25 - Latency test
07:12 - Handwriting test
08:49 - Palm rejection
08:57 - Conclusion - Zábava
Conclusion: Now they are no longer pencils .... but chopsticks
I wasn't expecting Huawei's pencil to be that good. It's not as great as the Apple one for sure, but still, I'm surprised!
Yup it is not as great as the Apple but interm of price you know why. Heheh... 😉
@@Carbuncle0168 I see that u are a hater but your name it's made with Asian characters
@@Carbuncle0168 cry
@@blackstarfire21 maybe he is an autonomous citizen of China
Can you do it better then?
I was confused why I was not subscribed. Turns out this is another one of your channels.
My assumption is, that the gap in writing with the M-pencil is due to that tablet not running at 120hz refresh.
Yeah. When iPad Pro drops down to 60Hz the input lag is more noticeable
I'm looking forward to a full review of the Matepad Pro, with special highlight to drawing differences vs iPad Pro (though the iPad Air 3 is more similar in price).
Comparison with other android tablets (such as the Galaxy Tab S6) are also welcome.
There's wobble to the line in certain situation so the drawing performance is good but not perfect. The bigger issue is the limitation of variety of drawing apps from the Huawei app store.
@@teohontech7141 Yes, that is a big drawback. Hopefully there are workarounds to make available some drawing apps to the Matepad Pro (I understand Krita is coming to Android and I'd love to see how it will perform in this piece of hardware).
I enjoy your videos a lot. Keep the good work!
Don’t forget now Apple has the scribble and erase function and hold for proper shapes so the functions have been added
That's a software feature. Huawei could add those without porblems
does anyone actually use scribble, i mean the apple pencil kb is much quicker than having to handwrite it
So basically they're the same but with a different logo on it...
Very precise comparison, thanks! Apple is slightly better, but considering that with 550 bucks you buy the whole Matepad Pro with keyboard and pen included, that's quite a big deal!
Hello thanks for awesome video, please tell me this does the Huawei m pen works on the Huawei p40 series phones also or it does only works on tablets?
If you can please try it and tell me.
Hey, what app did you use the huawei pen on?
hot take but i HATE the tapping shortcut on the apple pencil, it always activates when I'm readjusting my grip on the pencil or when I hold it to do a touch gesture.
I also am not a fan. I haven’t accidentally activated it much but I can never get it to activate when I WANT it to. Also, you may already know this but you can turn off that feature in the settings on your iPad
Me too. I just turn that off
Could you just use a ruler for straight lines ? Thanks.😊
Huawei stylus 2 generation M-pencil2
Install a cylindrical display on the stylus barrel
1 round electronic ink display
2 Touch to select the painting tool
3 touch rotation switch tool
4 Up and down touch switch tool
5AI automatically adapts painting tools (according to separate APP)
6 Touch vibration or sound feedback
7 Voice control
Huawei stylus 2 specific improvement parameters
Tilt without parallax
8192 level pressure sensing
Six-axis positioning tilt is more natural
8 ms delay
5080lpi handwriting resolution
280 follow-up reading rate
10cm sensing height
Lies
Does it connects to the huawei matebook x 2018?
Does Huawei pen works with other devices like galaxy or Apple tablets ?!! 🤔
Hello, does the stylus mine move slightly when screwed or is it completely blocked? Because on my M-PENCIL, the mine moves a little, and sometimes it is not detected by the tablet ... Thank you for your help
The tip should have no movement
Thanks this helped me from choosing which tablet I wanna get can you do a IPad Pro 2020 vs Huawei matepad pro video please thanks
Just get the iPad Pro
The pencil, the name, the tablet, and the default drawing app look nearly identical to the Apple versions. It makes it hard to respect Huawei when they do crap like this. Yes, they sometimes make decent products, but that's a hell of a lot less impressive when those exact same products have already been designed by other companies.
Look at the price comparison then talk trash again
@@XXXX-sm5ob It's easy to price something cheaper when you don't have to do any design work. It's not even that much cheaper.
I’m from China and I don’t like it as well
Its not about who does it first. Its about who does it better. If Huawei copies something, they better do it better than the people they're copying from
@@Zedexization unfortunately there's nothing about the Huawei M pencil that is better than the Apple Pencil from this video. Accuracy is lacking, there's no tilt sensitivity, and when writing close to the edge of the screen, the pressure sensitivity is wonky.
Done subscribed. So calm. Need more from your video coming later. 👍👍👍
Hi Teoh!
Amazing comparison video as usual!
I bought the iPad Pro 2018 12.9 few months ago. When I draw slow diagonal lines in pro create and clip paint I get wavy lines, even when streamline and stabilization options are on, I still get wavy lines when drawing slow or medium speed diagonal lines!! Is this something wrong with my iPad or pencil? Or is it something common with the iPad? Thank you!
That's strange. Apple Pencil should not produce wobbly lines. Have you tested with other apps? It's difficult to troubleshoot because there's just one tablet and stylus.
@@teohontech7141 So it happens, I use a tempered glass screen protector with a paper like screen that I placed above it, however I had to remove the paper like screen since the tempered glass screen took a small hit and broke.
I found out that the tempered glass screen protector would cause strange wobbly lines, apparently because of its layers and thickness!!
Sadly enough, the paper like screen will not protect the ipad from small knocks, and it really does make the screen blurry and dim the colors :(
Ibrahim Elgeaidy why would u put two screen protectors on.....
@@ibrahimelgeaidy6141 ur hand is simply shaky. Apple pencil is incredibly sensitive so tgey detect simple tremors. I suggest using different brush. Wobbleson a clean ink is more visible than, lets say, hb pencil
@@sppss914 I used the paper like and h9 glass beneath it for protection, just a thought I had and wanted to try and it worked. Fun fact when the screen took a very minor knock the paper like didn't protect the screen but the glass screen protector did. I now use only glass screen, can't sacrifice the color and sharpness quality and I use fast strokes in drawing anyways.
Can the m pencil be used with the Apple iPad devices?
have to go for the m pencil cuz it and the matepad non pro have a juicy black weeks deal rn. edit: ultimately went with the lenovo tab p11 plus and the precision pen 2 because the m pencil is out of stock constantly.
Can I ask you how to charge the M pencil wireless
This appears to be the best Android stylus. It has issues when the stylus is tilted, on the edges and it's slower. But it is a step on the right direction, as the gap with Apple's Pencil is getting less.
nah androids best stylus is the s pen
Latency is affected by refresh rate. Can you try to bring down the ipad's refresh rate if there is a toggle or try the apple pencil on an older ipad W lower refresh rate?
Yeah, when frame rate is set to 60Hz on iPad Pro, the latency looks similar to the Huawei tablet.
@@teohontech7141 But that kinda doesn't mean anything, because irl you would probably be drawing with 120 Hz on the iPad
@@iyad8644 Pretty accurate.
Best pen reviews ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Can i use the huawei Pencil on iPad 8?
Does the mpen works on a ipad?
Does the M-Pen only work on the tablet or is it suitable for other android devices?
And please make m-pencil review on other android tablet and phone
Is the mi pad 5 pen worse than huawei M pen in latency?
I really like the design of Mpen, it matches the silver color of iPad Pro, will Mpen work with iPad Pro or iPad Air 4?
no! it is using huaweis tech. apple uses a different protocol for communicating with the stylus and locating where it is on the screen so you have to buy an apple pencil
Thank you indeed
6:06 what is the white board application on Huawei plz❤??
is m pencil has like apple pen option like not perception the hand while pen and hand touching the screen same time??
There is palm rejection
Is there anyone that has ever tried whether palm rejection of M-pen works in OneNote?
I'm planning to get an iPad pro. Do you think I should wait one more year and get the new iPad pro maybe like March 2021-2022 or purchased it after saving up some money? Because, in my calculations It might took me like January 2021 before I can save up some money after getting a job.
I bought the iPad Pro 2020, it is great but I recommend you to wait if you will be able to save up until January. If you will be able to save up earlier just buy the 2020. The new miniLED iPad Pro will probably come out in June or in summer time, so it will be 4-5 months later than your complete savings, because it won’t be a great feeling an iPad releasing just after buying the new iPad. Have a good day.
If you don't need it now, you can wait.
Well, I think I'll focus more my strokes in traditional. I'll probably wait for the new one cause there's still a lot of stuff I need to learn before moving forward to digital. Thank you!
Itachi Uchiha frankly, i have a 2020 iPad Pro and I love using it for sketching, concepting, note taking, and basically anything i would usually use my macbook for other than Glyphs, Illustrator and Ae, but not the iPad, nor any windows 2 in 1, nor any tablet or any wacom, nothing beats the feel of traditional drawing, sketching, etc. Bonus points if you have a fountain pen and fountain pen paper, but everything works, though printer paper isn't that pleasant. If you have a sketchbook and a bunch of pencils, that works great too. Not sure if that's a great comparison because very few people can relate to me on that, but as I play two instruments, one of which is violin, where I have a proper one, and the other is piano, and I use an electric one, though music sounds beautiful from both, having that genuine response from the violin is an amazing feeling that often goes unappreciated, and that's how I also feel about drawing on paper. Regardless of whether you're getting yourself an iPad Pro or not, make sure to practice craftsmanship, paper might not be very ecological but it feels incredible. If you think I'm overreacting here, you're probably right, but I really just have to say it, if you'll be switching, please appreciate traditional tools while you're using them, the sound and texture and response and the entire experience of it is gorgeous and underrated, maybe you'll miss it! (I might be obsessed but i'm so so serious about this)
How do other active styli work on the tablet? Like the s pen or the staedtler pencil?
Those tablets only with work with their own stylus. Only alternatives that work are capacitive styluses which do not have pressure sensitivity and palm rejection.
@@teohycthank you! Are you also planning to do a review on the matepad 10.4?
I know a lot of people might be against me but I would rather choose the Huawei matepad pro I think it has more cheaper like if you agree
PandaGamerX25 YT Whatever floats your boat, man.
Yeah dude Huawei have the best ecosystem
Huawei is the best
Their app gallery is trash ngl
@@antonschuck9373 mg i'm getting it, if i install play store in minutes upon unboxing like i did for a friend's phone i'll officially say it's not an issue.
İpad air 3 vs matepad pro????( For take note)
I have very common question In 3:50
The thin of pen move up and down (m-pencile)
Does it move right and left also?
Just up and down
Got a question regarding the baterry life of the m pencil
It saids 10hrs. But those 10 hours are with the pencil in use? Or in general? Because you can't turn off the pencil
10 hours usage. If you are not using, battery should not drain. Anyway, since the M Pencil is attached for charging, battery life should not be a problem
@@teohontech7141 crap mine has battery drain :(
can you use the huwaei m pencil for all huawei ipads?
Tf is huawei ipads bro wtf is hauwie ipads they're all called tablets in general but the tablets of huaweis are called matepad's -_-
what app were you using when drawing with the two styluses?
Concepts
Teoh on Tech thanks!
I wonder if Huawei M pencil is a active stylus or a active capacitive tablet, since it uses a plastic tip?
I am getting a huawei matepad 10.4 and I haven't gotten the m pencil as that requires an additional attachment. So I was wondering if apps like Nebo and Wacom paper can use capacitive stylus?
M Pencil is active stylus. Tablet can detect the pen as it hovers close to surface. Nebo and Bamboo Paper can work with all types of stylus, but whether there is pressure sensitivity will depend on the stylus
@@teohontech7141 oh thanks a lot for that information. I was trying out matepad Pro and noted that nebo cannot read my finger writing on the tablet. Good to know that since I will be using it for note taking.
Thanks a lot for your reviews. It has helped me understand tablets and stylus in general. Love from a fellow Singaporean!
@@ShardoNight Some note taking apps will have strict palm rejection where they detect only pen input. However if you use capacitive stylus, those will be detected as finger and hence won't be able to write. With the MatePad Pro, you will want to use M Pencil so that the palm rejection will work properly.
@@teohyc yeah point taken on that. Will probably have to fork out another near 120SGD to get the mate pencil with M pencil charger if I were to do that. Gonna wait for the whole package to come and see how the capacitive stylus works out for me. Thanks again
@@teohontech7141 just a quick update. I received my matepad 10.4 and apparently Nebo doesn't work with capacitive stylus, the introduction says that an active pen is required. Hope this comment goes out to help people out there.
If you are purchasing the matepad 10.4 (NOT Matepad Pro!) remember to purchase the M-pencil with external charger, as the Matepad 10.4 itself does not support M pencil charging
What app did he use on the huawei
Concepts
I should have taken a slow-motion or slow-motion picture
6:06 what is the white board application on Huawei plz❤?? 6:06
Default note taking app on Huawei
is the stylus are the same size? thank you!!
No, M-Pencil is tad smaller
Can i use the huawei pencil with a samsung tablet?
You can’t.
Apple pencil is way better but the ipad is better then the other tablet also.
NO the galaxy tab s6 best tablet ever
@@sw7r have both
Apple pro is unbeaten
@@sw7r para profissionais absolutamente não
@@sw7r bullshit. Ipad is way more powerful.
iPad has more power and performance. Plus you can use iPad air2 even with iOS 14. Show me something similar in Android.
Have u already reviewed the matepad pro?
I'm still testing it. Review should be out next week.
@@teohontech7141 looking forward to it.
Teoh on Tech oh yes, I need a review!
why do you compare matepad pro vs ipad pro?, the price difference is huge, you should compare matepad pro vs ipad 8th (as a complete set keyboard+pen+ipad is the same price as the matepad pro set)
What application that you used in huawei matepadpro?
Wacom Bamboo Paper
latency test should've done with slow motion capturing.
Can ı use m pencil on ipad 9
No
Is it compatible with the new device of Huawei matepad 11
Try it and tell me, please.
Not compatible. Pens are not interchangeable.
I just bought the m pencil, the tip is not solid it moves a little bit to the sides i dont know if thats normal or not
That's normal
Ok thanks ❤️
You are good salesman
This is a good comment
Nice vid. Enjoyed the content. Oh, by the way, it's not concave, it's indented, just saying
Thanks. I was trying hard to find that word in my mind. 🤣
@@teohontech7141 😂😂😂no problem
does apple pencil writes on huawei matepad?
No
Can i charge huawei m pencil with Apple pencil charger? I didn't find huawei pencil charger in my country 😭
You need the that Huawei Pencil charger if you cannot charge the pen with the tablet
Does huawei pencil works on ipad?
Only works on the MatePad Pro right now
How big is that apple tablet? What's its name?
That's the 12.9-inch iPad pro
if you can afford an ipad pro, you can afford an apple pencil
*The quick brown fox jumps over The lazy dog*
can you try huawei Honor Tablet V6 with M-Pencil, Test writeing, painting，please :)please:) please:)
I have a huawei mad pad 10.4 and m pen, I like it very much.I'd love to use Procreate, but I'm afraid I can't. 👌👍👊🤟
Does the apple pen work on any ipad?
Only on iPads released in 2018 or newer. There are 2 models of Apple Pencil and they are not interchangeable.
So does the Apple Pencil work on iPad mini
Latency in matepad bcoz no 120hz display
true
Touch & pen latency has nothing to do with hz display. Get you facts right.
@@MultiDICKSTER but in faster dispaly it will draws the lines faster, right ?
@@Ahmed-Aref no, you just see it being "smoother" a 60hz screen can have like 240hz touch rate and apple pencil has 20ms touch latency. For finger it has 40ms. You to see the line in huawei probs has 50-80ms and no matter if u had 500hz screen it would still come same latency.
@@MultiDICKSTER it does.
No compitition to iPad when it comes to stylus, app support and updates. I really wish there was, I guess the upcoming galaxy tab S7 will do it.
Hey atleast in my country the m pencil is a Lot I mean A LOT more cheaper than the Apple pencil :)
Lol all the peeps be like huawei copying everything and apple being better. Dude if u have money to buy an apple product then just buy it if you don't then go for the cheaper version (the copied version). Some people can't afford a better and more expensive product so they go for cheaper alternative. And yes i'm poor lol
You do realise the idea of a stylus isn't copied? Apple didn't come up with it lmao
@@iingardinhio6173 i didn't mean the stylus per se i was talking about their products in general, everybody knows that steve jobs hated the idea of the stylus when it was first introduced lol
@@mr.buttwipeballscrotch33 but the design of android tablets have been that way for very long time... Apple copied their design. Apple copies just as many things as people copy apples things, it's how the market works. But saying the cheaper version of products that apple makes are "copied" is blatantly false. It's like saying Samsung copied fingerprint ID from Apple when Samsung had it 2 years prior
YES OMGGG PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT IPAD IS BETTER AND EVERYTHING AND I FINALLY FOUND UR COMMENTS I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT AND yes its better for buying an ipad BUT if u dont have enough money u can get a cheaper alternatives and thats why im getting a huawei matepad t10s another huawei tablet and the stylus
@@Kat-The_Cat but the sad thing is that apple isn't always better. Take the high end Samsung tablets and compare them to high end ipads. Apple gives you less power for easier to understand interface. Androids give you more power and more customisation, for less user friendly interface. However this has massively been changing recently. Android isn't just the cheaper version, a lot of the time its the better version
why ipad's screen is too yellow??
that isn't looking comfortable
theres nothing to compare.
ipad is always the best.
i say ipad, not iphone.
andi hartono faxxxx👏
Best tablet on the market, not best laptop replacement.
Leonard 33 it’s best laptop replacement if u compare to the others. Just not a great one but the others are horrible
Leonard 33 I’m currently using the iPad Pro with magic keyboard and i can tell you now its probably better than the Mac I’ve had for years, its just so much nicer and having a touch screen as well as a trackpad makes it such a good laptop replacement.
The only reason you should ever buy an iPhone is if you need iMessage. I'm an Apple sheep saying this and I know android is better than iOS in every aspect. However iOS and if you're deep in the ecosystem then consistency is the only good thing. It is nice to take notes on my iPad and instantly have them on my phone and MacBook and even watch
Huawei now has a variety of hardness nibs. A nib for 2 dollars.
Where did you find the $2 nib?
@@teohontech7141 At apple.com
Does m pen works on ipad
No
Any other cheap alternative for ipad
Does it not capable to just taking notes on iPad
Can you please make a short video on this topic
I have changed the tips of my Apple Pencil atleast 5 times already .
Megha John I haven’t changed mines once, you have to take care of them it’s not like they are unbreakable duh
Stop using paperlike
But not gonna lie, samsung was the only had the first pen on phone and tablets. But apple get pretty god job for making an apple pencil-
and they keep on accusing huwawei for copying apple when all the brands copy from each other--
Since when does huawei make pens???
why not
Huawei matepad pro looks amazing, great design, love the pan and the price is fine
There is a cheating u use your right hand and in one of the tests u used both oh them
Wait wait, WAIT! There's Teoh ON TECH now? Like dedicated tech channel?? Where have i been?
I did not expect that when i click this video. I never jumped to write comment section this fast after hearing the voice on the video!
Thanks. It’s just a hobby channel.
Alright mate fans spotted this video 😍
Yooo I'm literally pissed of I thought iPad Pro is the only tablet that have less bezel than other products
Samsung Galaxy tab s6
Galaxy Tab A, S4, S5e, S6 Lite, S6, Huawei Matepad Pro... Hell, even the iPad Air has smaller side bezels than the Pro
Ignacio Romero the ipad air has bigger bezels than the ipad pro
@@lotusrot read the comment *side bezels* not *side and top bezels*
@@matthiaswang yeeahh I regret it , I should've bought the Galaxy tab s6 instead, cuz damn I don't know what happen to my iPad Pro it's stuck on the boot screen and then the customer service sometimes suck. I have to pay additional 150$ for the repair for a brand new iPad Pro that's still in warranty that's really really annoying.
Edit : well yeah that's is my only problem sometimes the services act like a dick but overall quality I think iPad Pro were much more smoother
#TeamAndroid (⌐■-■)
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I just hate on how people keep saying apple pencil wins and u should just buy an ipad and not the matepad pro BUT if u have enough money for buying an ipad and a apple pencil THEN JUST BUY IT why u gotta compare which is better just because the other one is more cheap so its worse not all of them is if u dont have enough money what do u do if u wanna get it right now of course u get the cheaper one also just because ipad has procreate doesnt mean if u wanna draw u have to buy an ipad
I'm glad that Android tablets are catching up to the iPad so that we have a choice if we want a drawing tablet
They copying and pasting Apple and you call it a catch up
It's just blatant copypaste
It is copying Apple, but Apple is making the profits to do the necessary R&D work. I think as consumers we are better off if we have more than one choice.
Overall i preffer Huawei, Just loses on pencil aplication.
Guilherme Lima and apps
I'm eyeing the huawei (i hate apple anyways) cause i can't decide against samsung tab s6
using m pencil is actually quite stressfull. 😂
S-Pen
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Apple Pencil
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M Pencil
comparing a RM1699 Matepad 11 to a RM4799 Ipad Pro 12.9", mmm..... the answer is very clear.
Noticing the huawei kinds just steals a lot of the apple designs with minor changes...
It is like comparing 2 pencils from different companies. They will always look similar (if both are traditional and not mechanical).
@@samvomauenland1112 yeah but even the phones, laptops and tablets look similar in design, huawei is a chinese company so im not surprised. If you don't believe me, www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Latest-Huawei-Mate-20-Pro-6GB_60838723749.html the front looks like the iphone x exactly
@otherlego no need to be racist😒
@@otherlego lol huawei p20 pro also has a notch and that released a little after iphone x meaning they could not have copied it they already picked that desgin a year also p20 pro released march 2018 and iphone x releases september 2017
@@mitskiworshipper5001 not being rascist, chinese just doesnt have very strong copyright laws, thats why you see bootlegs of everything all the time.
What type of tablet is this 00:44
On the left side: Huawei Matepad Pro
@@phoqueanonyme4072 ipad pro in the right
its good the pencils are good i just laugh a little at your writing cause your writing looks like my writing haha
Literally just dropped my m-pencil and no longer works and the tip became very loose, apple wins, 100%
Fax
My only criticism is that it’s a Huawei product!
huawei mate pad pro d best
Ughhhh Why couldn’t they make the same stylus for the first Apple Pencil -.-
I just know iPad is way better than any other tablet but can't afford it 😂
Currently tested easy-to-use software. You can install Google on Huawei or download it yourself. wifi can be installed in the Google store on the Huawei tablet.
Writing: noteshelf (full function), oneNote, bamboo paper, squid, INKredible, xodo (pdf notes), elfinbook, Ink & Paper Handwrite PDF Notes Trial, handwriting, memo, Foxit PD reader
Painting: Krita (ps+sai+animation), ArtRage (thick coating), Painter, Autodesk sketchBook.Adobe Draw, Adobe sketch, ArtFlow.Medibang Paint. Concept art board, infinite painter, master painter, procreate
Your comment is misleading, you can't get procreate on android
please correct it
There’s no Procreate on android TBH😒