First Look! AI-1 Airbag Vest - Tetherless - In&Box Motion Detection Module from In&Motion & KLIM
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- čas přidán 30. 12. 2019
- Kyle from www.ChapMoto.com demonstrates and gives the detailed breakdown of the New for 2020 Klim AI-1 Inflatable Air Bag Vest. www.chapmoto.com/klim-ai-1-ai... This vest is worn under your riding jacket and it has a algorithm that senses movement, speed and other factors... and when the In&Box Motion Detection Module detects a shift taking place, the Air Bag Vest from KLIM / In&Motion inflates in under 60 miliseconds. This unit does not need to be tethered to the bike! Pretty amazing technology for 2020! Detect - Protect - Perfect is the moto for this new vest. www.chapmoto.com/klim-ai-1-ai...
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This looks like another great product from the boys up in Rigby ID....and another good job reviewing it Kyle...thanks to Klim for their innovation!!!
Hey Keith, thanks for the kind words. Klim really does a great job at researching and developing great products. Thanks for watching.
So tired of everything in life becoming a subscription. Let me buy something and actually own it.
You can buy the unit for $399 (2 year warranty) or lease it for $12/month $120/year (unlimited warranty), and on the 3rd year receive a new unit.
We feel you. You can purchase it out-right as NextGenPants suggests, but then you are stuck with an "old model" when the warranty expires. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Chaparral Motorsports so you buy just the jacket for $399, then plus &300 for the brain. Or subscription for the brain at $125 per year for 3 years.
If after three inflates (one day for me) send it back for a free check over.
Have I totally misunderstood this clip?
Buy a Helite. Better safety and cheaper. Plus you reload it yourself at home in 2min for 20bucks
I'm so with you in that. They think of any way possible to keep gouging...
I pre-ordered one, and have been informed by Klim that they will begin shipping in early April.
We just heard the same... Legal with Polaris (the parent company) from what we have been told. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
If I must have one (ie. mandatory for the Dakar now) I like this one the most so far
Good choice, it's a great jacket. Thanks for watching.
What if you ride road and offroad like you do with an adventure bike? And what are the costs of an air recharger?
No Algorithms for adventure riding? And if deployed three times and sent to Klim, if Klim says it needs replacing is that another $300? Whats the turn around time and do you have an inspection facility in Australia?
Why not just buy a Helite which you can reload yourself in 2min? The canister costs 20bucks.
And if you know what you are doing, you can find regular CO2 canisters that work too, so you can buy those from a Walmart equivalent
I use the mechanical one for dirt riding. Granted I have extended the tether a little so you don't notice it while riding standing up. But other than that it's perfect, and a deployment is never the end of the day so to speak. Just recharge and you're off
Very impressive, been looking for a replacement for my Hit-Air vest, this video sold me on the AI-1.
Did they mention why they went with argon over CO2?
The Argon is 40% more dense than CO2 and it has a quicker deployment. This vest is awesome!
@@chaparralmotorsports Ah makes sense, thanks!
Agree. Love my hit air jacket, but is bulky. This is a great affordable option to go underneath my latitude
Yes, also the at means the canister is proprietary and can’t be replaced with an off the shelf co2 canister.
$$$$$
I like this vest very much ! My next planned purchase was to be Leatt Neck Brace , maybe i should reconsider ?? However i am wearing a Klim Adventure Rally jacket , i wonder if those 2 are compatible in case of a crash ? What do you think Kyle ?
This will work under ANY riding jacket, even your Adventure Rally. I like the features of this vest A LOT, but the "renting" or subscribing for the service is a bit strange. I guess it is a lot like insurance. You pay for it if you use it or not... It is really well put together, that is for sure. I'd rather wear this than an external such as a Helite with a teather. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
@@chaparralmotorsports Kyle , my concern with the vest : I do rough trail quite often , actually nearly every week end , and it happen quite often the i drop my bike at slow speed , and i just fall . I am not talking about a real high speed crash , just a drop or fall in a very technical and sometime very slow situation . I wonder if the vest will deploy in this scenario ? if it does , then it might deploy 3-4 times per day sometime. Useless then !!
@@alainbrouillette7740 comes with different settings for off-road riding; i reckon it's like choosing a profile when you go out for a ride. Suppose it's much more lenient on off-road riding than actual street riding.
Cool video. How long does it stay inflated and how to deflate ?
Stays mostly inflated and slowly bleeds down over several minutes. To fully deflate you just unscrew the cartridge. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Why the additional back protector? If they are confident in the ability of this unit, then is it needed? And if there's a question of whether this will deploy, then what about chest armor?
The Held version shows the option to add velcro attached chest armour. Has exactly the same in&motion airbag inside.
A question I also put on Kyle's channel, what happens if you loose GPS signal? Will it fail to deploy in a crash?
Also, will it deploy in a high side / low side or rear ender if sat in traffic? The only information I can find is all front crash based.
Thanks
Dale
Bavenbushcraft I guess it uses an accelerometer as well
@@alrightdave6135 I've actually been in touch with In & Motion and they assured me that GPS is only used to enhance deployments and the it will still deploy if GPS is lost such as in a long tunnel etc. Thanks for commenting, I couldn't find which video I'd originally commented on, so I could put an update.
I ride in Scotland, I have a Revit jacket with a winter inner also a waterproof liner inside the jacket all of that plus clothing = not enough room for the airbag to go off properly as the jacket is to tight. I would have to buy a new jacket in a size or two bigger to get one of these vests. It looks like I’ll have to get one that fits over my current riding gear.
Hello, according to Klim you only need 2 inches of room between the vest and the jacket for the vest to properly operate.
Is it Available now to purchase from Chaparral ??
Yes! It can be purchased today but will not be available until Feb 1: www.chapmoto.com/klim-ai-1-airbag-vest-parent-2613046000120
Interesting not bulky and the neck protection is a big Plus.. I think I would like to hear from users how it works.. If it deploys when you don't need it and if it does not deploy when you do need it .. I am concerned about false alarms...
How much does the brain cost after three years leasing.. ? How much does the gas canister cost ?
False alarms was the FIRST thing I thought of... and then I began to think of situations where you fall off "slow" but still need the protection. How does that work? I really want to get one of these... and go fall of my bike in a bunch of situations to "see how it does or does not work!" - Kyle
@@chaparralmotorsports Yes need a video of testing how to activate it in falls as opposed to a remote control .. I hit a deer this summer going 50 MPH.. I say 50 because I was going 55 MPH and I had a split second to hit my brakes.. Deer jumped out of a tall corn field at the last second..
I hot my GIVI tank bag so hard it popped it off but had sore ribs for two months..
Knees skinned up gloves stressed.. I was wearing work pants not riding pants.. Have since Purchased anti abrasion pants with padded knees .. hips and tail bone .. Cheap Chinese mesh armor shirt .. had no armor on the top of my fore arm gat asphalt rash there..
In other words I wonder if it could have deployed fast enough to protect my ribs.. I did have a sore should too from hitting the deer so hard not from hitting the ground.. Slid feed first down the road on my stomach behind the bike ..
@@mikeskidmore6754 The reaction time is extremely fast - if any airbag could possibly deploy fast enough in a head-on collision, it's most probably a tetherless one like this.
An airbag with a cord may not be able to protect you quick enough for the first impact and will probably just protect you for the second and following.
According to IXON's numbers: deployment in 55ms
A head-on collision's impact: 90ms
Well within its limits thus.
Hopefully time will never need to tell
I regularly use an OGIO Mach 1 Backpack... how would the vest work with that?
Hello, according to In&motion yes you can however it is only
COMPATIBLE UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS
✔ The total weight of the backpack must not exceed 8kg / 18lbs.
✔ The backpack must be worn on the user’s back.
✔ Abdominal and chest support straps must not be attached.
✔ The shoulder straps of the backpack must not interfere with the deployment of the airbag. When pulling the shoulder straps forward, there must be 10 cm / 4 in of distance between them and the front of the shoulder.
@@chaparralmotorsports Thank you very much for the info and quick reply!
I currently have a Hit-Air vest (cable attached version) that the person I bought my bike from threw in. It's never been inflated and is virtually new, but I hate the hi-vis color, so I don't wear it. However, really considering an inside-the-jacket version.
How about if you have a neck brace on?
Hi, thanks for watching our video. This airbag vest is not designed to be used with a neck brace.
What’s stopping it from just accidentally going off and then causing you to crash?
Years of incoming data of street riding and track and years of optimizing algorythms with this data.. I use a IXON IX-airbag U03 since may2019. It has In&Motion electronics on board. brands like Held, Furygan,Klim,RST,Ixon are using the same hard and software. It has been tested for years now on the street and in MotoGP on track. Every user of this software shares its riding data and updates are done over WIFI ( about 3 times a year) so algorithmes are getting really refined with millions of km data and already a lot of deployments. If you do not trust its electronics today, you should not drive a car or enter a plane either. In case of a clash it is deployed before you leave the saddle over your handlebar. A mecanical airbag can never do that. The newest update is a cooperation with an app called Liberty Driver. In case of a deployment, your airbagvest will use your phone to make an emergency call and send your GPS coordinats to emergency services incase you are unable to answer back.
Yeah pretty much what gvybin said.
Can this be used under any motorcycle jacket?
For sure!
How reliable is it? Can you rely on technology over mechanics?
We haven't had the opportunity to do any real world testing.
Hi, how would a heated jacket liner effect the vest? Thank you!
Hi, not exactly sure. But probably wouldn't have any issues.
How does it deflate?
Just spin the canister off.... all the air goes bye bye. -- Kyle & the Chap Moto Team
Will this work in a case that you get rear end by a car ?
Hi Henrik, yes it would, the system is constantly monitoring and once abnormal movement is detected the system deploys the air bag. Thanks for watching.
Are you sure about that? I read that it would not deploy in the event of a rear end...
Does it have a battery? What is the life of the Battery?
Hi John, thanks for watching our video. Yes it has a battery. Battery life is about 20 hours of riding.
Will this deploy without the rider physically leaving the motorcycle, like in a collision or rear ending crash? This seems to be where lanyard based systems fail.
Yes. It reads at 100 miliseconds. If a shift is made.. it deploys
@@chaparralmotorsports What about off road? Will it handle all the bounces orr will it deploy even if we don't fall?
TheMegamsp it’s not for off road
So how much does the replacement air canister cost?
Great question! Do not have an answer as of this moment... we have asked. Should know on Monday.
Chaparral Motorsports have you found out yet ?
90 Euro
$99.99 (US) on KLIM's website. Currently out of stock
can you just wear this on top of your shirt? does it have to go under a jacket? In Texas it gets really hot.
Hi Shellumus, on top of a tee shirt?
@@chaparralmotorsports sure. T-shirt or just regular long sleeves. Didn't know, because the website shows guys wearing it on top however it's mentioned to wear under jacket. It gets to 104 degrees here and a jacket with this seems like too much but don't want to affect the protection or application.
I love the idea but as an active ADV rider this would be deploying far too often.
Paul Reynolds yeah! I’d have worn several of them out by now ;)
Yeah you would have! Mr. Crash-A-Lot
They are working on a off-road algorithm
For me and as I carry little or no excess fat I’m thinking I might as well make one up from mousse or a buoyancy jacket and just get used to having a life jacket on under my jacket. And ya off road I drop the bike all day long too.
Subscription-based safety equipment, need to register it and link it to an app (so your personal data is tracked and monetized?)... what a joke.
Shame on you Klim.
lol if you own a phone you're already being tracked and monitored
Cool and all but it doesn’t cover the shoulders…. So what’s the point?
Hello, while there are options available from other companies that do cover the shoulders, this is designed to provide impact protection for the core of the body and internals.
Too hot n heavy blocks airflow. I prefer the Helite turtle 2.
ok.
Turtle vest
Looks that way doesn't it?!
je ne recommande pas le in&motion
pour la simple raison que l on achete le gilet 399€ et que le boitier de controle ne nous appartient pas il faut soit payer 120€/an pendant 3 ans et ensuite payer 99€ pour que le boitier soit a vous ou bien payer 399€ de plus pour avoir le boitier
sinon bon produit en soit
je ne lui reproche que ce detail
mais lorsque j ai perdu le mien ils m ont envoyé la note de 399€ en plus de la perte initiale de 399€ du gilet
what scares me is "if something goes wrong, will replace it for free" what he means by that?
goes off on its own, and I crash because of it?
There is no way that you are going to crash "if it goes off." You will just feel a bunch of pressure... pull over and unscrew the canister.. done.
Subscription-based safety equipment LOL. Don't forget to pay on time!
The subscription service isn't required, it's just an option. Choose from $12/month or $120/year subscription options, which include unlimited In&Box warranty, anytime cancellations, VIP support services, and a new In&Box after 3 years.
Or choose the $399 one-time purchasing option which includes 2-year warranty and classic support services.
All purchasing options include continuous algorithm updates and mobile app dashboard interface.Thanks for watching.
No road and track algorithm
Sorry not free
ok
I would never buy a vest with a subscription. Racketeering
ok.
can you give me your email?
Please send me a message here : customerservice@chaparralmotorsports.com
They want you to pay a $12 mo subscription fee for the vest. Nope. Not ever. Don’t buy this crap or they’ll try and do that again.
Hi Scott, thanks for watching our video. There are two options: you can go with the $12/month or $120/year subscription which includes unlimited In&Box warranty, anytime cancellations, VIP support services, and a new In&Box Detection Module after 3 years.
Or you can go with the $399 one-time purchasing option which includes 2-year warranty and classic support services.