2023 Kawasaki ZX-4RR vs. Ninja 400 - Complete In Depth Comparison!
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Is the ZX-4RR a beginner bike? Is it really a super sport bike? Is the Ninja 400 good for experienced riders? Let's examine all of those questions by comparing the features of each bike, side by side, to help you answer all the questions that you have, for yourself! Want to see these bikes in person? Connect with the amazing team at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports here: powersports.wheelsanddeals.ca...
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I have been watching videos on both of these. I am a former Ninja 300 and ZX6R owner, so I am going to get both.... I will get the Ninja 400 to get back into the riding habit and keep it, then buy a ZX4RR when I am back into peak riding form. When I had the ZX6R, I just missed my 300. I still do. So, I will get a used 400 and then buy a ZX4R after a year or so of riding again. I love both.
Sounds like waste of money to me. You'll be done with the 400 in a week
@@unlockmypassword I never got bored of my 300. I just lived in Alaska and it was going to take way too long to get a new ECU, so they bought it back and sold me the ZX6R. I missed it the entire time I had the 636. Also, I will use it for running all of my errands. The ZX4RR will be for fun riding. I like smaller bikes.
@@unlockmypassword not everyone is a speed demon.
Sounds like a solid plan, and something I could do as well. Might get a used n400 then maybe get a new ZX-4R after a year or so. After all - I think its more fun riding a slower bike fast, than riding a fast bike slow 😂 (as I'm not a really a fan of riding insane speeds lol)
Gift me a 400 bro
Seems like you are buying many bikes
It's my ambition to become a rider
As always, you're getting my 👍 as well as my comment prior being finished watching yojr VDO, Peter.
Awesome comparison of two similar but very different bikes 👍
The explanation was very easy to understand. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Drove to my dealer in my 2023 Ninja 400 and left in my 2023 ZX-4RR. Quite the difference.
Nice! I'd love to hear more about what you think of the ZX-4RR! Thanks for sharing!
Love mine- thanks for these videos. Watched these religiously before purchasing mine.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Nice video as always
Hey Peter! Hurry up if you want to shoot more videos with the ZX-4RR, because it's now mine! I'll go picki it up next Thursday 🎉
Haha! Nice! Congratulations!
Honestly it's almost a shame that the Ninja 400 is such a great beginner bike since it tends to get typecast as such. I've been riding off and on since I was a kid, everything from dirt bikes up to big Harley baggers. Just got back into riding after about six years off and got a KRT Ninja 400 and I have to say, I haven't had this much fun riding since I was a kid racing about on my Honda dirt bike. It really is just a blast to ride. Riding position is great (too many worn out body parts to spend any amount of time laying on the fuel tank) but you can still tuck in or lean through the corners. Even with the price point suspension this thing will carve a corner as much as you have the nerve to go. I laugh when people on the internet say it won't do highway speeds. It loves to cruise between 80-85mph and I've had it up to 115. Now to be fair, it accelerates hard (for a 400) up to 100 and after that you're just flogging it which thankfully it doesn't seem to mind because, yeah I flog it a lot. Also: Kawasaki and their "Don't exceed 4k rpms for the break in" LOLOL
Thanks for sharing!! Great info! As far as their, "Don't exceed 4000 rpm" it's interesting because my Z900RS SE had that for just a few hundred kilometres, while my Versys 650 had that for longer if I remember correctly. But yeah, 4000 rpm is a very different experience on my 950 cc four cylinder bike than it is on a 400 cc twin cylinder. I'll never say that you shouldn't break in a bike according to the owner's manual, but it's much easier to stay within those parameters on a bike with a bigger, more powerful engine, for sure!
@@PeterLoweOne The 4k rpm break in thing is pretty much just Kawasaki covering themselves. The shop foreman at the dealership (knowing that nobody is going to keep it under 4k because s-l-o-w) simply said, "Vary the rpms and don't redline it until after the 600 mile break in service". This is the way I've always broke in mine and it's a pretty good practical/realistic guide for the average person to follow since once again, one of these bikes at 4k rpm = you're going to be getting passed by Super Cubs LOL
I have been wanting to try the ZX-4RR. The dealer in my area doesn't have one in stock yet.
Our dealer got one but it sold before it was even assembled 😂
As mine came in atleast 3 people tried to take it out from under me as I was doing the paperwork pretty interesting bike I must admit it’s an eye catcher
Oh yeah! These are IN DEMAND!! Have fun with it!!
I'm looking for my first bike (Im 16 years old) I was thinking of buying a kawasaki ninja 400 but the sound of the engine sounds like a lawnmower though I like it because it fits perfectly on me I'm 5'2 I was thinking of buying a zx-4rr because of the 4 cylinder engine its sound really good but I havent went to the dealership to see the zx-4rr though Im not sure if im tall enough to ride it. The seat height of 400 is 30.9inch and the seat height of zx-4rr is 31.5 ich not really big difference but it has a impact on my height
Really great info... thanks!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
How tall are you? Is it okay for a 1.90cm tall person for zxr4? Congratulations on the channel.
Great, through review
Thanks for watching!
The higher your skill is, the more you see sub 600 bikes as fun
I think you're right about this. That doesn't mean that rider's like myself (someone with no motorcycle race track experience) can't see the fun in this bike, but there's definitely something to the fact that very skilled riders seem to understand the ZX-4RR very well.
Zx4rr detuned for USA market. Simple tune can make 70 plus horsepower at rear wheel vs 55 at rear wheel standard. With a pipe approaching 80 horsepower with a powerband like a 600 zx although a few less ponies and torque. It’s an expensive motorcycle but with a tune and pipe could be a beginner bike that you keep. Not a huge change when move up from ninja 400 to Zx 600. This bike definitely powerful similar to a Yamaha r7 if a tune and pipe.
Insurance will classify as sport bike cuz 4 cylinders. Check cost of insurance
Man.! i still remembered that my first starter sportsbike was 2000 Kawi Ninja250.
If you ask me i will put my money on the 4r or 4rr over the 400. In the long term you'll appreciate the looks not to mentioned it's 4 banger and all the technology intergrated into to the bike. Well on the other hand the 400 you'll get tired of it because overtime due to lack of power and technology.
I like the ZX4RR looks ,but definitely not very powerfull. Not that I expected it to be with it being a smaller bike. Although I did expect it to have a little more ump to it ,but it's good for getting around town while looking sporty.
I think it's decent, but it does need to have the power that's available to the bike, but not available to North Americans, unlocked.
Im 6'3, 18 years old and am looking for my first bike and im super torn between which bike to get. I have no idea which one i should go for
I would always recommend the Ninja 400 to a new rider. I think you'll have a blast on it, and it can teach you SO much. The Ninja ZX-4R is a very limited edition model for this year. It's going to be harder to find, more expensive to buy, more expensive to insure, and frankly, for a newer rider, it will be so far beyond your skill level, you probably would be paying for things you can't benefit from. The Ninja 400 is a great bike that you can get on and enjoy from day one, and really grow into, and continue learning on. I've been riding bikes since I was 16, and I'd still love to have a Ninja 400 in my garage.
@@PeterLoweOne same, say less, thank you for your input 💯🙌
A lot of people don't realize how much 50-75 hp is in such a small bike. Ninja 400 is about 7 pounds per horsepower.
Zx4rr is about 5.5 pounds per horsepower. A 2023 Corvette z06 is about 5.6 pounds per horsepower. The standard Stingray model is about 7 pounds per horsepower. Remember that next time you call these bikes slow.
The only thing is the weight of the rider figured in changes that on a bike considerably. On a Corvette adding the driver's weight is negligible.
@@kurt9994 correct. Putting a second Corvette on top, would considerably reduce performance. I was simply comparing numbers.
Woooo lesssss gooooo!
the average person. even someone that owns a bike but doesn't do homework...couldn't tell you the difference. I have a 400 and a guy passed me on a r3 and thought I was on a H2R.
I was like really?!?
That's what I like about the ZX-4RR. It gives me high end components in suspension and braking, but I don't have to go with ZX-10 levels of speed. This bike really appeals to me! It's not for everyone, but seeing it up close, it looks like a high end bike.
I have a 2023 Ninja 400 I love but I do want a bike a bit quicker do you think it’s worth upgrading to a Zx4rr or it’s not that big of a difference and just get a 600?
This would be all the super bike that I would need! It's hard for me to tell if this would be "enough" speed for someone else. This one is certainly quick, but it's more about a fun overall experience. It's much quicker than what you have, but in a straight line, the ZX-6R is going to be quicker. So it's tough for me to judge.
Go sit on both (assuming you can find a 4rr in stock somewhere). When it comes to pretty much any 600 super sport you're going to be laying on the fuel tank all of the time. If you're fine with the riding position a ZX6R probably makes more sense as far as the price point goes.
Exhaust sound please
There are a number of videos that show that online with better audio equipment than I use, so I could do that, but I'm not sure that it would add to what's already out there.
been wishing for inline-4 z400/z250. kawasaki pls
That would be cool!
Hey I got a kind of weird question about the ZX-4RR. Is it possible to restrict it to european A2 license specifications? (35KW or 46HP) No worries if you can't answer that.
I understand it has a very strong governor on it and a super restrictive tail pipe. Easily fixed. Way more horse power is available and it goes well in the corners. If this is true, and you can get more than 70 HP to the rear wheel, You have a bike that is comparable to the original Blue H2 but with better brakes and handling. How that is even possible in a 400 ? Who knows better than Kawasaki.
I think that the original H2 after break in, could do the quarter in about 12 seconds. That was unheard of in it's day. I had the H1B and only weighed about 120 lb's. That thing was crazy enough. It was a 500.A larger displacement would be a lot more' kick your ass' torque. Wheelie Style. This Baby is all about the Super high revs small pistons can do. You do want to hear that.
It doesn't have more than 70kw so there will probably be an A2 version of the bike yeah.
@@potatoo_69
You talkin' KW?
'round these parts, we does not know what that means, mister. Weze loves Horses, pardnar.
From a few searches, I don’t think they will have one at release, maybe something in the future.
I’m hoping for the AUS/NZ equivalent LAMS approval, which I’m fairly sure is similar to the A2
It doesn't look like they're going to have one right away, but the US and Canada are getting ZX4R/RR with about 55hp peak, so its possible. It makes so little torque though, if you restrict it more it probably wouldn't be that fun to ride because its so heavy
as daily ninja 400 like for me 👍🏻 yea its slower than zx4 rr but have better low and midrange rpm up to 10-11 k rpm from idlle 👍🏻 + have lill less sporty position 👍🏻 + is 15 kg lighter 👌🏻+ on alot marlket zx4 rr go restricted from 76 hp os to 55-60 hp 🤮
The Ninja and Z500 are out now !
I'll be reviewing them as soon as they arrive! I'm really looking forward to seeing them!
Will i enjoy city riding in india on zx4r? I will keep my R3 though...plz rply
I've never driven in India, but I can't see why you wouldn't enjoy it!
@@PeterLoweOne yup, I think itz most practical and usable power for street use...am confused btwn cbr650r and zx4r...though 2024 cbr650r haven't launched yet,zx4r is available...what s ur opinion between these 2😊?
How tall are you? Thanks!
I'm about 6 feet tall.
The 4rr is a screamer engine like it’s bigger brothers
Quickshifter on both bikes?
Not on the Ninja 400.
Zx4rr vs CBR 650 plz
Pretty sure the 4rr is probably faster but for sure it's going to be more nimble. The CBR 650 is pretty fat. While I don't have the specs in front of me I can say that as an example: the CBR 500 weighs the same as a Ninja 650, thus the reason it's a pig and will get walked by a Ninja 400, much less a Ninja 650. I think the riding position is more or less the same between the 4rr and the CBR 650 but the thing to do would be to sit on both.
There is a difference with small multi cylinder engines. That is why Ferrari/Lambo love small displacement v12’s. They rev scary fast
Ferrari and Lamborghini haven’t made a small displacement v12 in probably 30 years. This bike is also shit. It’s purpose was high revs and low weight. It revs lower than an r6 while weighing the same. Then it costs the same. And is half the bike. Absolute disappointment. How can a bike with 150% smaller pistons redline 500rpm lower than a 1000cc v4 panigale. What a scam.
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Yes all those electronics is good but then again is it necessary? They could have made a ninja 400 with this engine i would have been sold
You might have been sold, but that would have been a different bike. Keep in mind, they immediately sold out this bike. Lots of people like this idea, and they can't feel bad about their decision when they sell out so quickly and have many orders for next year already in place.
@@PeterLoweOne
Even I was waiting for something like this but It's about the pricing when the same company has the 900 around the same cost it doesn't make sense
. It would have been much better for kawasaki to sell it as a "Budget friendly inline 4" instead of it being "costs as much as a 900 but doesn't produce much power" .
My bet is that it's the initial hype which is there and soon it will die down as long term reviews will start to come in and we will get to know whether it is worth it or not.
@@entername3840 my guess is that they won't sell this in North America for more than a few years. Many parts of the world buy these smaller displacement bikes, they're rare in North America, so I expect these to be produced until the interest drops, and the profits they make will be a bonus that they wouldn't have received if they never launched it here.
Sent to Rusty below:
I understand it has a very strong governor on it and a super restrictive tail pipe. Easily fixed. Way more horse power is available and it goes well in the corners. If this is true, and you can get more than 70 HP to the rear wheel, You have a bike that is comparable to the original Blue H2 but with better brakes and handling. How that is even possible in a 400 ? Who knows better than Kawasaki.
I think that the original H2 after break in, could do the quarter in about 12 seconds. That was unheard of in it's day. I had the H1B and only weighed about 120 lb's. That thing was crazy enough. It was a 500.A larger displacement would be a lot more' kick your ass' torque. Wheelie Style. This Baby is all about the Super high revs small pistons can do. You do want to hear that.
Also it is chain drive. Without the gut ripping torque of the original H2 ,the chain and rear tire should last Longer.
Changing sprockets is not a big deal for more pep at low rpms on the street. 6 gears to use.
Which 500 Kwaki was of 120 lb weight, mate?
Me. I weighed 120lbs at that age. 17.@@kwakithailand
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I would rip that zx400RR.
Too much talk for nothing. Put it on the road and rev it to the redline.. sound and acceleration will tell all the differences. End
So here's the funny thing about CZcams. This is what I do. It sounds like that's not for you. I'm cool with that, but the fact that you're commenting means that you also have a CZcams channel that you could use. If you think people should be making those videos, then by all means, go make it. CZcams isn't a competition. It's a place where people can all work together to provide different versions of the same story. If you think the story should be told another way, go for it! By the time I made this, there were already all kinds of videos showing the sound and acceleration, but what I did here hadn't been done. That's why I did it. Sorry if this comment was too much talking for you! 😉
Lol
I believe ill get a Ninja 400, and then later on move to a zx6r, the price point and exclusivity of a zx4rr just wouldnt be worth the extra $4,000 just for some shit i can slap on or build myself on a ninja 400, i think $5800 max is a good price point for a new 2023 with no miles
I agree that a Ninja 400 is good for a new rider. But to think you could slap on parts to a Ninja 400 to get anywhere close to a ZX-6R is not realistic. The Ninja 400 is a fun twin cylinder bike that is really great to learn how to ride well on. The ZX-6R is a 4 cylinder race-derived bike which is an entirely different animal.
@@PeterLoweOne I was referring to the zx4rr over the ninja 400, I'm talking options between both 400cc bikes
@@PeterLoweOneI hv r3 and will kp it..will it be a sensible choice opting for zx4r in indian busy roads? Plz share ur opinion
ZenX?
ZeeX.
Not in Canada.