How The Critical Drinker Misrepresents Barbie (And Why That Matters)
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
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The Critical Drinker's video: • Barbie - The Greatest ...
Barbie's teaser: • Barbie | Teaser Trailer
Barbie trailer: • Barbie | Main Trailer
Other Barbie trailer: • Barbie | Teaser Trailer 2
Timestamp:
0:00 Introduction
0:40 The misframing of Barbie
4:28 Bad criticism...
13:44 ...But it doesn't matter
20:20 End
#barbie #thecriticaldrinker
Barbie is a 2023 American fantasy comedy film directed by Greta Gerwig, who wrote the screenplay with Noah Baumbach. Based on the Barbie fashion dolls by Mattel, it is the first live-action Barbie film after numerous computer-animated direct-to-video and streaming television films. The film follows Barbie (Margot Robbie) and Ken (Ryan Gosling) on a journey of self-discovery following an existential crisis. It features an ensemble supporting cast, including America Ferrera, Kate McKinnon, Issa Rae, Rhea Perlman, and Will Ferrell. - Zábava
You thought the *content* was done? Think again! Here are a few more silly bits and bobs I spotted in the Drinker’s video post-recording. Here’s a fun game - let’s see if we can decide which is the silliest! For your consideration:
At one point, TCD seems peeved that Ken doesn’t have anything better to do than ‘simp for barbie’, and doesn’t seem to realise (or care) that Ken’s arc in the film is growing to a point where he does. He also refers to the Kens as having no inherent value, even while a major part of the film’s resolution is based around the idea that _yes, they do_ - that Ken is Kenough.
At another point, TCD observes that Ken seems to like the patriarchy because he’s given respect, and says ‘y’know, sometimes I get the feeling the film isn’t saying what it think it’s saying’. This one’s quite funny. Ken _seems_ to like the patriarchy, but by the end of the film, he and we both realise that it _isn’t_ making him happy. What he needed wasn’t respect (after all, he had Barbie’s all along), and certainly wasn’t the _unearned respect_ (1) furnished by the patriarchy, *what he needed was love*. Before and during patriarchy, he wanted it from Barbie. He didn’t get that, and so remained unhappy. After patriarchy, though, he gets love. From himself! He accepts himself and is happy.
TCD also criticises the film for ending on a pro-feminine note, retaining Barbieland’s Barbocracy rather than turning it into a land of equality and taking the opportunity to ‘unite audiences behind a simple message of reconciliation’. It’s a little silly that he thinks ‘I wanted it to end this way!’ merits inclusion in a review, but this is really just another example of the way he _doesn’t get_ Barbieland. The world is unequal, and Barbieland is an opposite, a targeted, affirmative imagining of female success. Reducing Barbieland to Equalityland at the film’s close wouldn’t have fixed Barbie’s real world. All it would have done is deny that world’s women even the ability to _imagine_ emancipation from patriarchy.
1. We can see in comparing Ken’s wider time in the real world to the doctor scene in the trailer that the respect reality shows Ken comes not as a result of what he does, but as a result of what he _is_, a man.
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Tldr 😁
@@Mark_o_Helm tldr his video was bad lol
I find it absolutely hilarious that he cries over Barbieland not being Equalityland in the end, but he's perfectly find propagating misogyny and patriarchy in the real world so that's just false virtue signalling.
The irony of the critical drinker@@SIZModig
EFAP has proven to us all that you are a liar. Why should anyone care about your silly opinions?
I can recall a female news reporter getting slapped on the ass by a guy at a marathon. This was in front of the hundreds of people that were there AND the audience that was watching on the television. So no, it’s not “unrealistic” that a guy would sexually assault a woman on a boardwalk in broad daylight. Far worse things happen to women everyday.
Wasn't there a girl who was violently assaulted on a subway and instead of people helping her they fucking recorded it?
@@serenitymoon825 like, this is extremely common. I don’t get why people like the Drinker act like it isn’t. I mean, I get why, but, y’know…
I remember that, it does happen to female reporters a lot because its that moment of being on camera for something provocative 15 seconds people do it for. Like the "Fuck her right in the pussy" guy.
Oh wow! You can think of a single example? Well there's egg on his face
Taylor Swift sued a radio host for touching her butt and there is a picture of him doing it.
excited for more original and well reasoned takes from the makers of "why is this fictional character black?" And "no politics in MY war movies!"
*Cue the irony key
@@fawful7457 *cue
@@Jane-oz7pp Queue
Kwö
LMAO
Saying "Barbie" is Anti-Men is like saying "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" is Anti-Christmas or that "The Lorax" is Anti-Tree
Totally inappropriate comparison. This review not only latches on to critical drinkers name to get views, but also mostly manipulates with a lot of words to sounds smart, but doesn’t actually debunk most of the drinkers arguments. The only one which may be sort of true is the fact that indeed the trailer of Barbie didn’t 100% hide its message, although it was much softer than the movie was in fact. You mentioned the “thinking about death” part from the trailer as if that’s a proof that it wasn’t hiding, but that’s very misleading. Indeed it’s more serious but please show where in the trailer the word patriarchy is shown or any of the big lines from Will Ferrell, where he speaks about the women he hired in his company. Oh, there aren’t. So where’s your point? They were hiding it’s main message.
Secondly, you mentioned that the real world isn’t that real to begin with. Dude, if is the real world, it’s clearly stated in Barbie and even if it seems exaggerated, that was the whole point, they are making a mocking of our real world and making it look like it’s the truth and nothing else, so there’s no point here as well.
The drinker is also right with the inconsistency of the dolls which are being destroyed in the real world. Barbie just ignores this aspect, knowing that the audience doesn’t give any importance to details anymore and will give even less in the upcoming future. No more questions being asked.
I just watched the movie and was very open minded, even though I had seen the drinkers review and many more before (even positive ones, as my feed is mostly filled with positive clips), I really wanted to see if it succeeds in manipulating and to see what it’s purpose is. It’s a very confusing movie, trying simultaneously to be silly and innocent and also political at the same time. It clearly used a big subject in the media just to gain a lot of money, not caring at all about the consequences of its message. The ending of Barbie shows it best: Barbie chooses to stay alone, it’s not even a love story. So what is it? What was the point of the movie? There wasn’t any, they just touched a lot of subjects, trying desperately to please audiences and also stirring people up agains on another, than casually watching from aside how we argue over it. The only elements which saved the movie were: production design and Ryan gosling. Had it not be for his charm, nobody would have even smiled. (The crowd in my theatre, which was packed, did not laugh once, it was complete silence, which speaks for itself in a comedy). Don’t try to deny now that it’s not a comedy.
Have a great day and stop trying to sound smart by using a lot of words out together in many sentences.
@@GerhardDudu667lol
@@GerhardDudu667 yawn
@@GerhardDudu667 we found the fanboy
@@GerhardDudu667I'm not reading all that, I'm happy for you though, or sorry that happened.
Another flaw in Drinker's analysis is that they DO reference mangled Barbies. "Weird Barbie" got her hair hacked off, was covered in lipstick and paint, and moved like a broken rag doll. In fact, "Weird Barbie" is trending now and people are sharing their mangled Barbie monsters. Shoutout to Sonic Barbie.
Persoanlly, I'm surprised they didn't reference Oreo Barbie or Rollerblade Barbie. Missed opportunity there.
@@jeremyusreevu237 I think Mattel wants everyone to forget about Oreo Barbie, so…
@@mhawang8204I think I know what that is but I feel like I shouldn't know what it really is..
Shout out homemaker Barbie
I am surprised none of the Anti Woke reviews called out Weird Barbie for destroying femininity as that crowd is really concerned about women becoming less sexy (see Lara Croft). There was room for a joke about brothers destroying Barbies or the like, but pretending it ignores maligned Barbies is disingenuous.
Its really sad to see how many men don't like the Barbie movie, especially since one of the major themes of the movie is the kens learning that the patriarchy was never actually good for them and they're happier to just be friends.
I dont get why they would watch it then to be honest. its a barbie movie and gonna be feminist dah. Not for me is a vali response.the hatewatching barbie is just weird
thats a valid point, Ken was a big focus too
it was kinda funny in my screening, the audience was maybe 1/3 men, and a few walked out ten minutes in lmao
the ones that didn't, laughed through most of the movie.
@@Jane-oz7ppDo ppl get refunds for tickets or did some dumbasses just waste their money?
To put your mind at ease a little:
I am a man and really liked the movie. It did an amazing job of explaining the mechanisms of the patriarchy without simplifying it down to men being bad. It explained that in many ways we are all victims to the patriarchy and are supposed to be locked into our roles in it. The Critical Drinker and all the right wing commentators who are outraged by it simply don’t actually understand the movie in any capacity. It’s really sad and quite frustrating to see. And as a Scottish person it’s also sad to see a fellow Scot like drinker being so ignorant.
One thing a lot of people may not be realizing about the Kens:
The Ken's aren't dumb and emotionally stunted because they are just stupid doing bad stuff.
They're dumb and emotionally stunted because little girls barely play with them beyond only being a companion to Barbie. Those girls are playing with them how the gender roles of how men are supposed to act.
They're not emotionally complex or struggle with issues because for years the idea of men acknowledging their mental health issues and emotions was considered "not masculine"
They're just Ken. They only exist to be pretty companions to Barbie. Nothing more. Sound familiar?
That's why the Kens in the movie are the way they are. Little girls playing with then based on their gender role expectation. It's something the film directly criticizes both women and men of.
When you played with Gi Joe's or Power Rangers or whatever action figures as a kid, how much enotional connection did you give to the female action figures? Or were they just there to be pretty and be companions and nothing else?
Tldr
You didn't watch the movie did you
I'm going to ignore the other comment to your post and say that you DID watch the movie, and you're right. I had 1 ken doll when I was little, and I rarely ever played with him. I had a few Barbies, and Star Wars action figures I'd create adventures with. Ken was just... there. I honestly don't remember if I gave him a complex character or not. tbh, the movie portrayed that.
I heard the best metaphor to describe Ken. "Ken is an accessory to Barbie. He's like a purse with pants."
My older brother had the G.I.Joes. He was the one who took the heads off my Barbies.
That makes no sense as the real world men are written the same way.
@@poocrayon4588The secondary characters all act like stereotipes both in barbieland and in the real world. The only "real" people are the protagonists: Barbie, Gloria, and a bit Sasha and Ken too
@@dragonbones3885 how would you know if you didn't read it. Maybe make an effort instead of half assed comments.
If this movie came out pre 2016, gamergate, trump, etc... it wouldnt have this much controversy.
As a society, we've clearly moved backwards to a point where we're not ready for a movie that exaggerates its commentary on purpose to make a point. We're apperently still stuck in argument mode.
So I have a theory.
The Internet connected people together.
The first few decades on the internet, it was mostly young people.
Thus the internet was inherently more progressive.
This gave the illusion that we were a more progressive society to those involved, and those not involved didn’t care or know what the internet was like.
But as the internet has grow, more and more people who are not progressive we’re logging online.
Which brings us to where we are today, the internet is everywhere, everyone’s on it, which not gives us a true feeling of regression.
When in actuality the progression was an illusion the whole time.
@zaczane A lot of it is just grifters taking advantage of the loud and dumb. The grand majority of the "anti-woke discourse" is charlatans exploiting the sheltered and ignorant in order to make money. Said sheltered and ignorant are their own issue but they wouldn't be riled up over even half of this shit if they didn't have groups like FOX News or guys like Critical Drinker selling them torches and pitchforks for the new hate topic of the week.
GamerGate was a mistake...
@@zaczane I think it's more that the internet became more and more consolidated, corporatized, and we became the product for advertisers to put their ads in front of over time.
Early days of the internet it was novel and fun to just be chatting with somebody clear across the country, or halfway across the world. If you went to a geocities, or angelfire site or something you were just happy to be chatting about something you were a fan of. It was a more positive vibe. Outrage culture, and outrage merchants on social media sites have become so prevalent that it dominates the internet these days, and it's more about argument than enjoyment now.
Edit: Oh, and people really are a whole lot shittier to each other online these days (have been for almost a decade now). It's pretty gross.
@@acronenWe should also remember who computers were first marketed to. Men. So the majority of the first internet users were Male and once women got their hands on computers it suddenly wasn't just a guys thing anymore. Video games aswell we see it so blatantly with gamergate what happens when minorities in these white male dominated spaces start to speak up about poor (offensive) representation.
People who think Ken is *only* a villain are so media illiterate.
Half of the story is Ken learning that he has value on his own, without Barbie.
Barbie's lesson is that she *can* spend time with her boyfriend sometimes and that maybe we need a little more balance in life.
The story is unabashedly pro-man.
Also I know we focus on Greta Gerwig as the writer-director, but we need to also remember that she works *in partnership* with her husband. It was literally written and directed by a man as well as a woman.
Also that he thought the Patriarchy was about horses and lost interest when it wasn't
@@FieldMarshalFry Maybe they see that as a negative because it shows Ken as a dumb boy, and they are upset the patriarchy didn’t work in Barbieland.
Noah Baumbach is the co-writer, but Gerwig directed this movie by herself.
People dont seem to get the joke that Ken actually was just an accessory to Barbie as a toy and nothing more, which is why he felt he had to be. As far as I know they are a couple regarding the toys, but they arent really a romantic one because Barbie tends to represent herself alone or with her friends and sister. Ken is kind of just there for a heteronormative expectation. The movie was making a joke about that, because Ken the toy has no actual identity anymore than her car does. The plot of the movie fits in parallel to the marketing which is what they intentionally satirized.
Ken is not her boyfriend lmao
I’m sorry, but if you think that it is impossible for a woman to have her ass smacked in broad daylight in front of her boyfriend, then you just haven’t spent a lot of time having honest conversations with women.
Also, TCD seems to miss the HUGE PLOT POINT that Ken was not, in fact, Barbie's boyfriend
Dude, do you really think that a man can just smack a woman's ass and not immediately get arrested?
Mattel execs don’t engage in car chases either
@@jeremyusreevu237 who said anything about him not getting arrested? Also yes, because friends of mine have described it happening to them and police not taking to seriously
@@jeremyusreevu237 This cannot be a serious comment. Men can do far worse harrassment and abuse of women and get away with no consequences all the time.
The evidence for what you’re saying about the daughter character is clear in that very scene where they meet Barbie. After three of the girls say they hate Barbie, one says she liked playing with Barbie. The others immediately tell her to be quiet and shame her. If that’s not screaming to the audience that this is NOT the character we’re rooting for, then I don’t know what is.
It also stems from the fact that Barbie’s owner is the mother. A woman who has a good job, but wants to be appreciated for being a mother.
Imagine having such a cartoonishly evil perception of feminists that you are unable to recognize that is exactly the message the film is trying to give.
Yeah this video was very clear. The 5th time that he talked about drinker being wrong then immediately saying he’s right in the next sentence caused me and the people I was watching the video with to stand up and clap!
@@onearmedbandit84 I mean... I've read comments from the director so...
The girl she speaks to before meeting Sasha literally warns her that she's a mean girl.
Margot Robbie herself said in an interview the start of Barbie world in the film is pushing into Misandry (the opposite of misogyny) and yes like you said it’s a subversive plot, flipping the gender roles. Then it flips again back to misogyny for the real world and then hopefully swinging back into balanced equality at the end of the film. (True Feminism is about equality)
Plus as someone who grew up with Barbie dolls, Ken dolls were just an add on. Most little girls would only imagine themselves as Barbie so Ken didn’t get much of a look in for role playing. Ken was usually just another toy in the toy box.
Yeah I agree with your last point. That's why the tagline says "She's everything, he's just Ken" kids played with Barbie the most than with Ken. Ken was just boyfriend material for Barbie, nothing more nothing less so make sense why he's basically just Ken in the moviw
I mean, it _doesn't_ swing back to balanced equality at the end but for good reason IMO.
The slightly wry line near the end is something like "The Kens in Barbieland will end up with as much power as women in the real world" (i.e. they'll still clearly _not_ be equals) and I think viewers (maybe especially men since, as a group, they're arguably most in need of convincing) are meant to be left feeling angry on behalf of the Kens and from there make the small mental leap connecting that to feeling angry on behalf of women in the real world.
This movie was a bait and switch no mattter how much u guys hate it
@@anonymes2884 And even then, the mental leap is so small all they have to do is walk across it and yet you have guys saying shit like "W-well, women are totally equal to men now, so that line is sexist against men and is pushing the feminist agenda!" And it's like... okay, Brad, if women are totally equal now then that's the takeaway you should've gotten from the line
yeha like people miss the point that the kens are superfluous and do nothign cause THAT'S HOW WE TREAT THEM IN REAL LIFE
Ken's are treated as an accessory because the world is based on how girls play with them. It's why Barbie flies out of her house everyday.
The narrator even says this. Idk why these people forget these important lines
So then why is Ken able to go into the real world and take those ideas that he gathered back to Barbieland? How is he able to brainwash other Babies? Is he also brainwashing the girls playing with the dolls? When Ken turns Barbies dreamhouse into Ken's Mojo Dojo, people in the real world rush to go buy them. Just because the movie tells you something doesn't mean it makes sense 🙄
@@mrj1897because acknowledging reality throws into context how STUPID all their arguments are.
@@mdew578 cause you can probably guess that ken is being bought by young boys?
@@mrj1897 What about boys playing with Barbies? What about girls playing with Ken? You're trying to defend bad writing by trying to fix the writers mistakes for them. Just admit it doesn't make sense. Your mind can't fill in the blank on all this.
I know Ben Shapiro no longer has any moisture in his body the way he's been crying and complaining about this movie.
I actually am subscribed to Ben and I remember when he uploaded that video. His friend Brett cooper liked the movie though
@@HistoricalFanaticsclone*
@@justanidiotmk2749 real (she looks like a female Ben Shapiro)
hopefully he and his wife can bond over that
@@HistoricalFanatics”his friend”, you mean Ben in drag
Who would've thought actual children would have picked up the message better than a bunch of adult men.
children arent dumb, they just dont have adult life exerience. And open way more.
@@marocat4749 I'm just saying fully developed people are dumber than the bare minimum of intellect sometimes.
Exactly@@marocat4749
Some people see what they want to see and blind themselves from the rest.
Children are less broken than these people. This is what GamerGate does to the brain.
I'm an adult barbie collector who partakes in Barbie social media. OMG, The number of people leading up to the release had me wondering if we'd watched the same trailers. I mean pregnant midge, the gay Allan, costume references to earring magic Ken? The number of people coming out of the theater saying the movie should've just stayed in Barbieland where the world was perfect....
I thought the inequality between Ken and Barbie was just a reference to Barbie as a corporate product as well as a nod to the animated movies.
As someone who watched some of the animated versions of Barbie, Ken was constantly pushed to the side.
This film actually addresses that and tries making Ken into a more active character.
Excited for this video. It’s been frustrating to me that people are boiling this movie down to “patriarchy bad!!” There are so many different themes and layers going on at once that people are just missing because they want to have a hot take.
Definitely true, but also, patriarchy bad.
@@jkfeckeI mean yes it is, and yes that’s the general idea, but this was also the first blockbuster EVER 59 directly tackle that theme, and I honestly loved hearing the actual words being used like feminism, misogyny, and patriarchy. This is still a necessary and important conversation to have.
That's what really disappointed me in the Pitch Meeting episode about the Barbie movie too.
@@MattEldritchHorrorWhat are you talking about? That episode was great, like all the other PMs.
@MattEldritchHorror Just recommending you to stop watch pitch meeting I stopped watching them after realizing they're just pandering to the general or well CZcams audience to be exact.
I really love these type of videos. Highlighting where he goes wrong instead of just saying he’s wrong and refusing to elaborate like he does
Did you miss the half dozen times where this dude said drinker was wrong and then immediately say that he was right in the following sentence? If you didn’t treat videos like this as second-monitor videos you actually realize how asinine they are.
No, he never said that? Have you been taking you meds lately?@@user-NameName
I don't understand this concept. I'm not going to defend the drinker for what he says, but he's a critic. He has the right like anybody else to express he's view on whatever. If you disagree, why not making your own critic being positive about the same topic (Barbie in this case) ? Just making fun of someone's opinion isn't very... noble, it feels like a low attack.
Especially on youtube, to attract people who like you don't enjoy a youtuber and you just thrive together in the comments flattering each other as you laugh at the drinker lol. In a way that makes you guys worse than him
@@maboulofob
Its because a critique in which you base your points off of outright wrong assertions can be criticized for being wrong.
@@realhumanbean7915 If they were wrong then pillar of spergery wouldn’t instantly backpedal and say he was right constantly.
WOW, CRITIAL DRINKER MISREPRESTING SHOW OR MOVIE HE REVIEWS!? Tell me something I don't know 😆. But in all seriousness he lost all credibility for me when he said that Black Adam and Fast X are good movies, while Into The Spider-Verse was overhyped and overrated. Thank you for doing this.
the joke about the scene in the film, which is based on 2001 where the baby dolls are destroyed by girls, is actually a reference to the fact that dolls aimed at a girl were always based on babies, so you can only play mother. Barbie was the first doll that was a grown person where you could imagine your dream life as an adult.
Don’t be silly, it obviously just means _the film hates mothers!_
(/s)
@@PillarofGarbageLol
@@PillarofGarbage LOL ;)
but yes, that reminds me of a conversation I always had with someone who was studying film. you have to know I wanted to do it myself but the German school system put a spanner in the works for me.
the thing is, in film school you don't really learn why films work but how you build them. it's more about teaching you how to hold a brush and how to make strokes, but not really to question, interpret, or seek deeper meaning. That's why I always recommend anyone who wants to study film to do a course on film theory at the same time, or at least to deal with it in their free time.
That was the intended joke, I’m sure. Unfortunately, it also comes off very much as TCD said too. It’s simultaneously a joke about girls wanting a cooler toy, and a grotesque representation of motherhood as a beautiful aspiration many girls have being something to reject in favour of a life of self and independence. It can very easily be seen both ways, which is food for thought about just where feminism may be leading, however unintentional it was here. As TCD says, if you only see the intended joke, you’re probably the target audience of the film, no malice intended on my part.
That's a lie. 20th century Paper Dolls had adult shapes and often based on careers such as famous actresses. Ancient Roman girls had adult women-shaped dolls modeled after Faustina the Younger. Even Barbie herself is a copypaste of Bild Lilli.
can't wait for the totally normal and reasonable response that this video will receive from fans and/or associates of the drinker
Absolutely cannot wait to be called every name under the sun
edit: and it’s already started on Twitter! 3 hours before the video even drops! Good going gang 🫡
*actually sober drinker
The man (child) gives us actual drinkers a bad name!
I love it when The Critical Drinker fanbase engages in completely normal behavior, like going out of it's way to dislike every video remotely critical of him.
@@PillarofGarbage "OUI, REPRESENTATION IN MAH FILM??3? GO AWAY NOW, WHAMEN! I HATE TEH MESSAGE!!1!"
@fawful7457 why did you put “out” in that sentence.
Je me sens offensé
If you peruse the guy's twitter for any amount of time, you will quickly realise that he is simply a raging misogynist.
You see what you want to see
He is a griffter as many rightwing youtuber like @disparu and @MIKEZERO!
If Labour wins the next election. They have said that misgonisy could become a hate crime. The SNP has already been pushing for this. It won't matter if it's conducted online - if it happens you will be able to report it in the UK as a crime.
@@RDeathmark Fucking ironic given who we're talking about here.
@@rogerforsman5064 Disparu is based.
So the other day I watched/listened to The Roastie Girls* Podcast about the Barbie Movie and their response to Ben Shapiro's review of it. At one point one of them brings on her seven year old daughter and they asked her what she thought about the film. To absolutely nobody's surprise she understood the film better than all these conservative-minded men who've been griping about it. While the Barbie film is certainly more "family film" than "kid's film", kids tend to be a lot sharper and smarter than certain adults give them credit for, but that topic could be a whole essay.
(*The youtuber Munecat and a couple of her friends)
There's two kind of annoying criticisms of Barbie, those saying it was mean to men, and those saying it wasn't mean to men enough. Both parties completely miss the point of the movie
I dont think the movie has an incredibly well thought of point then. I didnt like it as a film and i didnt really think it did a great job at making me question any of my pre established opinions
And don't forget the forbidden Third Category -- people claiming "Barbie wasn't woke all along!" and twisting themselves into knots to explain how it's secretly anti-woke and anti-feminist (and then complaining about it for having "poor characterization and storytelling" as though everyone can't see through them, lol).
The movie contradicted its own point all the way through, so it's understandable
It was meaner to modern Mattel executives probably more than any, other, single segment - in life.
That dude's grift is so transparent. He doesn't even try. Frankly, the most disturbing thing is that he's taken seriously as film critic. He has no cinema literacy. Whatever this movie does examine the how patriarchies work must be effective because people like him seem terrified of their fans seeing it.
If you dare, I would like to see a video on how that whole crew weaponizes their audiences to destroy film criticism and media literacy. There's a youtuber called "As Told By Kenya" who made a vidro about toxic fandom that applies well to what that group does. Your twist on it would be much appreciated. (It's mostly only the first part, but she carries it through.)
That's not what grift means. And I can imagine that if he agreed with your take on the film, you'd be praising him to the moon and back. You're a hack who has no solid principles to stand on. You just attack people who disagree with you.
Hes the best movie critic out there, if you are a biased leftist its your problem. Defending barbies bland porridge of shit content for the memes coated with hollywood rich girl misandria is stupidity
That's a lot of left-wing reddit talking points you've drooled over🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 That is even more impressive
@@henocksherlock3340What's reddit?
@@henocksherlock3340 Yeah and none of them are true. They don't even watch his content!
There was a really touching moment of Barbie watching two middle aged guys sharing a good laugh in the park. Did everyone miss that?
That park scene was genuinely beautiful
BUT THAT"S GAAAAAAAYYY..... -the critical drinker probably
They were also homosexual.@@Isuream6331
The "Barbie/Gerwig" movie is garbage from start to finish, for EVERY reason possible. The insane thing is that were ALREADY TONS of good to great Barbie videos, so the movie was unneeded at best. One example (which is why this comment WILL get deleted). Look for "Barbie dream house" videos. You're welcome.
@@shuttittuppitt9355 You're so brave saying all that and then telling us to watch Barbie dream house instead (both are good btw)
So curious that the people who calls other snowflakes are the ones making a career of getting offended by everything.
So true
It's not a matter of being offended. It's a matter of people being upset that the film is attempting to create MORE of the people they're calling snowflakes by co-opting kids into radical feminist victim consciousness where they, in Barbie's own words, "feel violence" in society, and using subversive means to do so. Yes, it happens to be offensive toward men, but that's not the primary issue as to why the film is a real problem.
@@user-ys7yt9bi8fI am sorry if this movie hurted your feelings:(
@@snehaphilip5481 "I'm sorry this movie hurt your feelings" is not a legitimate response, or at least not a proper argument. It's just you trying to gaslight or reframe what is really nothing more than my own personal explanation for the reactions you're seeing, as an "emotional response." Since emotions are considered antithetical to logic or being cerebral, should I assume that saying that to someone regardless of context has worked for you in the past? And no, you don't live in a patriarchal society, hence the problem of the messaging.
Is it offense, or is it that we rightly wouldn't want young girls indoctrinated on the surface garbage from ideological movies like Barbie?
Some boys go through a Ben Shapiro phase, others a Jordan Peterson phase, mine was TheCriticalDrinker. Happy to say I'm two years clean.
Well at least you didn't went through a Andrew Tate phase.
What did you gain?
@@erikahuxley Tate may be a thug in the eyes of many, but he's *feared by the media not because of that, but because of the fact that he's extremely knowledgeable* on many interleaved subjects and, at the same time, he can easily see through the manipulation most media crooks are trying use to get a grip on him...
How is this content any better? This dude lies just as often as you think CD does.
@@user-NameName
Vague gesturing at imagined hypocrisy without bringing up examples. Nice.
Okay, so let me first say that I'm not smart. So I haven't seen Barbie, or even a single trailer. That being said, when somebody told me there'd be a live-action Barbie movie made in 2023 and starring top-of-the-A-list actors being directed by Greta Gerwig, I immediately surmised there'd be an at-least somewhat-smart subversion of expectations on gender roles and "girl power" tropes. Because anything else would be A LITERAL CARTOON, and speaking as a parent I personally know we've already had so many of those (and guess what? The last Barbie animated show I saw also touched on these themes!) And again, *I'm not smart*. So either TCD is a hack trading on reactionary single-word braying to an audience of dupes, or he himself is too stupid to actually evaluate cinema.
What you're describing is a smoking gun that the target audience wouldn't have been able to smell given the fact that the audience for barbie, or simply a general mainstream audience, wouldn't be familiar with Gerwig's mumblecore background. As for why Drinker may not have expected it, perhaps you aren't aware of this, but people DID have their antennas up (mostly because everything is woke now). But the CEO of matel came out and publicly said it was not a feminIst film. So it's not that people are too stupid or reactionary, it's that the studios have just gotten a bit smarter about this stuff.
@@user-ys7yt9bi8fanyone unironically using "woke" nowadays is easily identified as a reactionary fool whom is so delightfully easy to grift... I'm sorry for you, my fellow human.😢
@@Ironsuaba And anyone who unironically reads a paragraph and singles out the usage of a WORD just to call them a "reactionary fool who is delightfully easy to grift" has ZERO argument to offer. Because here's what I've addressed and here's what you've decided to ignore in favor of highlighting "WOKE" in some fruitless attempt to make a case for yourself: 1) Gerwig's mumblecore background would be unfamiliar to the Barbie audience, hence the reason they wouldn't have seen the feminist trope coming, 2) It is an unassailable fact that the Matel CEO publicly dispelled concerns and said the movie was not an ideological trope, 3) Points 1 and 2 are evidence to the contrary in terms of the claim being made here that people were stupid if they didn't think it would be controversial. If simply stating facts puts you so far out of your own personal ideological comfort zone that you have to announce your "pity" for someone (on the way to calling them a reactionary fool, and that it "delights" you), then you're right in saying there's an irony involved, just not the sort YOU had in mind.
@@Ironsuaba “bigotry is okay when I do it”
@@user-NameName you've gone through some HOOPS to get to that conculion... hope you can handle motion sickness well
If people like the Critical Drinker hate a movie with such passion then it must be the greatest movie ever made lmao
Honestly it actually might be
I wouldn't go that far, but yeah it's pretty good.
Nah, these movies are usually bad. Captain Marvel was bland, Rey Skywalker was meh, Little Mermaid sounds fun but still soulless. Barbie just so happens to be a rare exception.
@@kurooaisu If you listen to people like The Critical Drinker you will think Captain Marvel is Catwoman 2004 levels of bad, which it is not, so you might actually be pleasantly surprised.
Extreme "thinking" from anyone based on who their fan of is sheep mentality.
I haven’t seen the movie, just the “I’m just Ken” clips and the discourse surrounding it so take what I say with a grain of salt, but my take on the whole Ken situation is that men and women are simultaneously more alike and more different than we realize. Yes, each gender faces issues unique to them that the other will never truly understand fully, but at the same time we are all human. We all deal with feeling inadequate, unimportant, replaceable, expendable, unappreciated, and taken for granted. The fact that men and women can relate to both Ken AND Barbie to a certain extent should give us a better understanding of each other and bring us together through our shared struggles and emotions, but instead it’s idiot going back and fourth in this “it’s literally me” debate. Men say they relate to Ken feeling disenfranchised and women reply “You misunderstood the movie” talking about how Ken represented how women were treated. Both can be true. I believe the societal pendulum is swinging far in the other direction and men are getting a lot more shit these days, but again, instead of men and women using their shared emotions as a means to understand each other, come together, and maybe fix some of the prevalent issues, it’s this stupid back and fourth. Anyways congrats on your channel growing. Been here since the beginning.
Types like the Critical Drinker are so fragile. The movie literally empowers Ken at the end (he doesn't need barbie to be a full "person") and yet there he was, complaining. Talk about the real snowflakes 😂. Thanks for this rebuttal, he misrepresented so many elements!!!
This reminds me of the drinker’s review of Midsommar, either he is pushing this regressive worldview, or he’s drinking so much during the film that he literally can’t make out what’s actually happening on the screen.
How did he straight up miss that it's the MOM, not the girl, that's playing with Barbie. Like, that's an entire plot point
Plus the way the daughter ends up adopting the traditional aesthetic of a pink dress
IDK but remember: The Critical Drinker used “fascist” to describe something/someone who DOES NOT control the railways or the flow of commerce… I suspect Crit’Drink’ didn’t see the actual movie or is suffering crippling memory loss.
@@egdapo you got me, I didn’t see the movie. I intuited what was said from tapping into the collective unconscious of all humanity LOL
My mistake: trying to make a joke about the Drinker using the same language as the schoolyard bully from the movie. I going to watch Hot Fuzz to refresh my memory of the crossword puzzle clue for Fascist.
@@ScaryMasoncritical drinking in fact, does NOT always correlate to critical thinking. I mean I like a lot of his videos but he has a couple of misses
@@ScaryMason I blame all the drinking
Let's not forget that Drinker's primary goal is not to provide insightful critique, but to affirm the pathetic victim complex of dorks on the internet as they spiral down the abused pub toilet of red pill / anti-woke / never-touched-a-blade-of-grass-in-one's-life content.
Lmao I can schizopost too
@@dragonbones3885Good for you, obviously you have nothing more in your life than to come shit post this whole comment section.
@@dragonbones3885> big words I disagree with
> "wow a schizopost!"
@@Ted_Curtis I think he was referring to the deranged armchair psychology of people he doesn’t know. It’s kind of fucked up to ruthlessly shit on people you think are pathetic and have no real connections with people offline.
I googled Copium and this video popped up.
You're literally coping right here baby
I was scrolling through the comments and this randomly popped up. I didn’t even have to google anything. Amazing.
How dare the BARBIE movie talk about women’s issues 😡 😡 😡
HOW DARE A WOMAN COMPLAIN ABOUT SEXISM😡🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬
That's the thing, it doesn't really. There are a few points where it does, but it largely manages to make women come off as spoiled and entitled. I was expecting to get hit over the head with all the wokeness and feminism, but really, it was pretty tame. It's arguably more of a Trojan horse for men's rights than a blunt object to beat people over the head with feminism.
If you haven't seen the movie, I recommend it. The main thing I didn't like was that too much screen time was given to Barbie and too little character development was given to her. Beach Ken had pretty much the only character arc in the movie, and watching him and the other Kens "ruin" Barbieland by making it fun for everybody would have been fun to see more of. Instead, they pretty much use the misogynistic trope of women being too stupid to avoid being brainwashed by patriarchy.
I got the distinct feeling that a bunch of writers that hated Barbie were brought on board without enough that liked her to keep things in Balance.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade I love that the only possible way to defend this movie is to try to misinterpret it
How dare the BARBIE movie not be allowed to peddle 4th wave feminist propaganda, sexuality and genitals, trans identity, patriarchy scare and anti-traditional family dogma to little girls without criticism...
... There, I fixed it for you, lol XD
@@RDeathmark That's what I'm seeing as well, the copium levels are through the roof.
To all those who think Barbie is misandrist, I would like to say this: Barbieland is supposed to be a reverse of our own world, where women have all the power and men are, as stated in the video, "just-eye candy". This is said in the movie (well, in reverse. Where the real world is the opposite of Barbieland but it's the same sentiment), and makes sense when considering the ending, where one of the Kens is allowed to be a judge of a lower court which the narrator then describes as progress.
So what does the whole Ken-instituting-the-Patriarchy plot mean in this context? Well, this arc seems to mimic a theorized matriarchy, an idea which has gained traction among a very small number of so-called "feminists". The type of actual misandrists whom people on the right (or maybe far-right, idk and it doesn't really matter) will assume you're talking about when you say "feminist". For those know, this group believes that women are superior to men and therefore should rule men. I hope you do not confuse them with the feminists that actually desire equality, and that you understand I am not confusing them either.
The Kens use the adoration of the women around them to soothe their fragile egos, which supposedly makes them happy. The speed at which they are turned against each other (and the method used to do so) should prove that these are not people who are truly happy, and that they build meaning atop a house of cards built upon the opposite sex's independence.
And at the end the house of cards crumbles. Ken (the Ryan Gosling one) reveals that he never actually cared about power, but that he just wanted to feel recognized and that he has purpose (which is an interesting parallel to the mother but I digress). This is a problem in our society perhaps even more prevalent than sexism, and the movie accurately portrays that as fueling misandry. Though from my experience, the same can be said about misogynists as well.
Barbie has a different solution to the problem: Self actualization. Meaning can, and should, be derived from things other than the relation one has to the opposite sex. Building one's identity beyond the label of "man" or "women" (and the relation you have to the other) is a much more stable way of finding meaning in the world.
tl;dr Greta Gerwig uses the plot and setting of Barbie (2023) to prove that power dynamics between sexes is fueled by a feeling of purposelessness, and that the healthier way of solving that lack of meaning is self-actualization, and not being at the top of aforementioned power-dynamics.
P.S. If Barbie (2023) is supposed to take place in the real world, where are the homeless people? It's literally Los Angeles. The Worldbuilding and Magic system are not particularly logical or consistent, but they're not trying to be. They exist to serve the plot and the message(s) of the movie, and do a good job of that. Solid 7/10, but I would def rate it higher if I cared about Barbie as a brand.
edit: LA not San Fran. Thanks for the correction.
So glad someone is able to recognize the difference between feminism and misandry.
Oh my God, thank you for actually explaining that 😭! It pains me to see people confuse modern-day toxic feminists/false feminists with the true feminists that genuinely care for female equality ☹️.
Lol, people who agree with the movies feminism are twisting themselves in knots all reading whatever different things they agree with into the movie
If the movie was really “feminist” (misandrist) wouldn’t the kens have been punished in the end? If you actually pay attention to the movie it makes fun of women just as much as it makes fun of men.
Just to nitpick, it takes place in LA, not SF
Somebody should do a Drinker parody channel where they do his thing to old classic movies like Aliens. Could easily highlight the grift this way.
I'm surprised none's done that yet.
I'm considering making a Twitter Account called "Classic/Famous/Popular Media that would've been called woke if made today" or something like that just to take the piss outta him and other idiots like him.
@@carolinemcgovern4488I would probably watch that. I usually find parody channels insteresting
So this 'wamen' with no prior training is just better with a mech suit then everyone
And survives fighting this Apex predator where trained marines failed
The levels of woke are staggering.
Don't forget Tolkien is woke too
"I am no man"
Who else is woke, Princess Leia? Shrek?
We will examine this and more on the new channel
Pedanticly Sober
@@neutronstarpilot4393 lol read this comment as being serious until the last line ;) Indeed, sir, indeed.
It boggles my mind that CD's video has 2.2 mil views and around 150k likes, which means at the very least 200k people watched that video and came with an agreement. It's honestly scary.
Groupthink is a hell of a drug.
A lot of flies are attracted to shit. Remember that.
I recently unsubscribed his channel. It's really easy to get sucked into misogyny masquerading as "realism". At the time I subscribed to his channel, I was looking for more nuanced narratives on gender politics in media, a commentary that goes beyond the conventional power dynamics between the sexes. Took me a while to figure that this channel offered anything but that and the views are far from balanced, hammering down on anything remotely against men in general. He was subtle at hiding his real agenda at first but seems to be losing his touch now. CD and his like-minded friends are exactly the kind of realism police one should keep away from.
@@bhavatirao9350this exactly, only reason i even slightly agreed with the barbie movie review was because i just hadn’t watched it to form my own opinions, even then i’ve been on and off watching his channel for a while and definitely new it was “anti-woke” something i hated about his criticisms
it’s honestly quite funny how quickly i did a 180 after a friend watched the movie and told me about how much fun it was
@@bhavatirao9350 You touched on something there: "hammering down on anything remotely against men in general". That's the problem with men like him, and really the conservative mindset: the binary thinking. The idea that if something promotes something, it must be ATTACKING its opposite. For someone to win, someone else HAS to lose - it's just nature, right? Emotion-based zero-sum binary reactions make people unable to realize when they're *not* being attacked. People like TCD are mentally and emotionally unprepared for a complex world so they'll simplify it by any means necessary.
You know how your voice gets all changed after you breathe helium? Well Drinker's voice is like that, but instead of helium he's taking massive lung-hauls of his own farts.
very good comment
That explains why I can’t stand the sound of his voice I guess…
@@carson5090 He seems to have a sort of valley girl vocal fry going on which just makes him sound even more grating
There's actually an interesting consideration in movies like Barbie putting their adult in-jokes in the trailer. Children might not recognise the reference, but parents are more likely to and critically they're the ones buying the tickets.
There's a theory in child media studies (I think Nodelman's Hidden Adult is the source though Rose's The Case of Peter Pan and the Impossibility of Children's Fiction might predate it) that argues that while we tend to talk about media as being 'for kids' we actually make it for adults. The media ends up serving what adults want to show their children or presenting what they want their children to like/be, because adult sboth make the media and pay for it.
So I could see an argument that the movie trailers aren't a good way to gague a movie, but I think it's the opposite of what the Drinker contends, rather than tricking you into thinking its child friendly, the trailers are much more likely to try to trick you into thinking a film is more adult oriented and sophisticated than it is (emphasising the cleverer lines, the familiar actors and the jokes for adults). It's one of the reasons that the movie was a little hard to pin down because 'Do you ever think about death?' might be an instigating incident for a complex plot deconstructing utopia (which it turns out to be) or it might be a throwaway line put in to use in the trailer to convince parents that the movie has more of a point.
What it's very unlikely to do is hide a complex theme in a movie and not tell you because:
1) In general parents tend to be more paranoid than their children in looking for themes. I remember my Dad used to pause films and quiz my little brother on the scene we'd just watched to see if he'd picked up implications he needed to understand future scenes. The only way around this would be to have a REALLY good understanding of youth culture and I honestly don't think that's possible in a blockbuster because those cultures tend to be fragmented by region and change really fast (a structural limit imposed by the way we separate out school years and generally corall kids into them).
Even then adults tend to be hypervigiliant around kids movies, so putting in anything they don't understand immediately is a risk (as Critical Drinker proves, with his paranoid reading of Ken).
2) The adults are the only demographic who can actually cost you money. If a kid is hurt by a movie (nightmares, visceral lack of enjoyment, representation they find offensive) they're not actually able to do anyting about it. They don't tend to have the sort of instituational accesses they'd need to protest you meaningfully, I don't think they can raise lawsuits in most places without an adult and their reviews aren't likely to be taken as seriously as an adults. Meanwhile adults can at least demand their money back and at worst create videos accusing you of being a cult or threaten your workers.
So basically hiding a theme from an adult while making it visible to a child is really hard, adult film makers aren't good at it and it's an actively dangerous thing to do as a company. But pretending you have an adult theme when you don't (not that Barbie is doing this either) is a good way to court an extra audience of adults who have money and the ability to drive (legally) to cinemas.
Very interesting, thank you for sharing!
Phenomenal analysis in this comment. Kudos.
I really enjoyed reading this, and you made some interesting and well-thought-out points about the industry.
A thoughtful youtube response. It's like finding a unicorn! XD
Yeah I can vouch that I got slapped on the arse in front of a restaurant full of people when I was working as a waitress. I was carrying a tray of dirty plates too so I didn’t get the opportunity to smack the guy back.
Really sorry to hear that happened to you :/
(and that people like this disbelieve the reality that this stuff happens)
The best part is that he opens by claiming trailers tricked him and cannot see that failing to see what trailers were telling him proves how ill-equipped he is for a movie critique.
Isn't Kubrick like 'film school 101'?
I would rather watch Barbie three times in a row with my kids (despite not interested in the movie), then showing them 2 minutes of CD. The first would maybe not my thing, but there’s a possibility my kids would have a blast, while the second one would probably count as plain child abuse…
I am sure will kids will really get an education about men beating other men off. I mean beaching other men off as said in the movie.🤣
And your self-validating egotistical strategy for navigating the variety of thoughts and philosophy of the world, by creating an echo chamber of validation and then proceeding to force it onto your children.. is cringe and weak AF
I mean yeah. I’d rather my kids had watched Barbie three times as children than grow up to be stupid.
Why would you show them 2 minutes of CD after watching Barbie 3 times?
He's bad enough but his fans and defenders are even worse.
This really makes my day, watching someone tear apart Critical Drinker’s bad takes, you earned a subscriber
I wish more people weren't afraid to call out Drinker for his BS takes.
Bad takes* are opinions we dont like
@@yanicktodman6771this isn’t an argument you think it is
Tear apart? bahahahaha that was a good one!!
@@ianwalpole1201 I mean, it’s really not that difficult. He often has bad takes have you seen his across the spider verse?
I think the critical drinker doesn’t think he’s Kenough
The barbie land is how Mattel sold barbie and ken. Ken was never advertised he was always sold as the toy you get with barbie. Barbie was the thing girls wanted. Of course barbie world would be run by barbie. In the film ending they ended the previous reign of barbie land after seeing what they did with ken.
It is sad seeing the way these people interpret media. They can never appreciate anything beyond surface level because they lack the tools to understand it.
Easier to be anti-intellectual that to start grinding those mind gears
Feminist theory need to be taught in schools, clearly.
It's not even surface level criticism. The likes of Critical Drinker offer something even shallower. It's glancing in the direction of the movie and seeing what little of it through a turd coloured filter. Woke spotters are barely interested in the thing they are complaining about, and are just using it as a means to hastily get back to complaining about progressivism or diversity. The scant and inaccurate movie criticism is just there to reassure the viewer that the reactionary crap they are absorbing is legit film analysis.
@@nozero1 This. Also if a movie IS very much about progressiveism and the like, but its not popular, or kind of hard to read, these chuds know none of their audience is gonna be in that wheelbarrow to think that deeply about it. As someone put it 'they need soimeone to tell them the movie is bad before considering why its bad'
You're right the published author only has a surface-level understanding of Storytelling and structure and themes and messages, he wishes he had your big brain with your critical thinking tools
Fantastic analysis. Unfortunately, there are a lot of dishonest grifters like The Critical Drinker. Hopefully he keeps exposing himself the way he has, and more men see that.
I read the comment section here and if I knew nothing about this movie, or the Drinker or anything related to it, I would want to do anything and everything to avoid becoming like people here. This is 2013 Tumblr levels of circlejerkness and intellectualism from 'nuh-UH'-ness that is actually painful to expose oneself to.
Lets say we make Drinker the Trump of the story. It makes you people the Clinton campaign. You are so detestable that people will take literally anything over you, and you will do anything to avoid the conclusion that you are the problem. 'Men' see you all the time, they just wish they didnt have to.
I used to like his content, but after a while one starts seeing through it. So, yeah I think he will lose more of his audience if he keeps doing bad faith arguments.
This turned out to be a grift off Drinker's status on YT, as many channels I've accidentally come across tend to do. Constantly saying "I think and he doesn't" doesn't win over actual thinking people.
@@thehermitman822 sure dude.
@@AgentMoray What bad faith arguments are you referring to?
I really enjoy your critical drinker take downs, Awesome video!💯❤
Thank you for this brilliant review!
At least there are fun memes and cool fanarts of Barbie and Oppenheimer being best buddies together.
😂❤
Maybe because it's because I'm not terminally online. But I struggle to understand how a Barbie movie became a battleground for the soul of humanity.
You need to be very online to understand the current kulturkampf. Its very stupid.
Its just the internet at its finest.
because it can be very profitable to turn *everything* into a battleground for the soul of humanity. But *especially* anything for which women and girls are the primary or even secondary audience.
Simply put, the internet is a cesspool of stupidity where literally anything can become controversial.
The movie hates on men and women are upset that it's being called out, it's kinda weird considering how many constantly say they "just want equality"
"Is the Critical Drinker just a hack?"
YES
These people are unironically a danger to the art industry.
Truly. They turn nitpicking into media criticism and ruin media literacy.
Yeah they are, and they use their so called movie criticisms to push a dangerous agenda and to promote their sub par comic books, novels, and movies.
Nah. The funny thing has been watching these clowns lose their minds over Barbie's colossal success.
artists arent creating art because its an easy route to take. they always have been under unfair scrutiny by pissheads like the critical drinker. but its part of the job.
@@robbieshand6139because of Oppenheimer
Why can't all these rightoids get it into their heads that this film WAS NOT MEANT FOR KIDS?! Ben Shapiro, Shadiversity, Critical Drinker all complain about this "kid's movie" being full of politics when the movie isn't meant for kids! It's meant for older women nostalgic for the times they were young & played with Barbie dolls!
facts
Blame Hollywood. They've been trying to make things so mass market apealing and commercialized that there cant be any little I{ for people to enjoy. Everyones gotta stick there head in everyone elses business. You can see that in how once this movie had a hit weekend Mattle dropped an announcement for a dozen films based on their products with talk of a Barbie sequel.
Because the advertising was pretty vague at best and suggested that kids were definitely part of the target audience?
@@legogenius1667 and yet the age rating of the movie is pg-13
@@legogenius1667 And the average moviegoer could be forgiven for missing the pg-13 rating. But people like ben WHOSE JOB IT IS TO TALK ABOUT THIS and have a certain amount of accuracy when doing so should be held to a slightly higher standard, such as... checking the fucking rating?!
i mean him calling ken "barbies boyfriend" just proves he didnt even watch the movie lmao
Why? He was Barbie's boyfriend
@@that1chickinFL no, he isnt, that is literally the entire point of his character arc
I couldn’t make it through more than a minute of his video before clicking off. Feel like he was completely off base here. Glad you took the time to articulate why.
Glad you are making this
Can't wait for all the troll comments from people who didn't even watch the video
Thank you for this!
I used to like his channel a long time ago, glad you're calling the drinker out, wish someone would have a while ago
Critical Drinker: *makes an incredibly biased review of Barbie*
Pillar of Garbage: "Allow me to introduce myself to fix this misconception."
Garbage, not biased. OK champ lmao
You misspelled "based".
@@legogenius1667Good one 😉
People can have the opinions they want. No one is really in the right here, because there is no wrong to put that right into perspective.
@@adammarch9604Except that Drinker's "opinions" are based on arguments that are objectively wrong.
He can have his opinion, but we all have every right to call him fucking stupid for it when he can't back it up with any actual logic.
5:46, I think a better point to be made by the drinker is not only that the movie flips our real-world gender norms to make men the marginalized community (which was very well done); but that it also portrays this flip as a good thing. Its portrayed as a good thing by the movie that the Kens are subservient to Barbie because the main character who we are supposed to be rooting for wants that thing to happen and its a celebration when it does happen. Not only this but it is portrayed as better when the Barbies are purely in charge. I think this is what makes so many men angry at the movie.
I agree with tearing down the patriarchy, I agree with the portrayal of our real world and sympathize with the women in this movie up to the point where Kens are made to yet again be forced into the shadows of barbies. I think the parallels the movie made were phenomenal, the storytelling was good, humour was amazing, and from what Ive heard from women in my life, it really struck a chord with a lot of them. But I think we shouldn’t have to tear one group down to build another group up, no matter what issue you are trying to address and even if it is parodying other movies which do the same thing
The difference is that in a story you can portray extreme ideas without causing actual harm, whereas trying to impose the same changes to society would have actual consequences; that's why it's fine to do it in a movie and show the issues, so that we can learn from them and think of a better way.
Still, if it wasn't a Barbie movie then yeah, ending with real equality would be as good or better (I have yet to see the movie so I can't say for sure).
@@SIZModig I suppose youre right there, just kinda wish it ended a different way but i do hope you see the movie, its a worth while watch!
But does the president Barbie directly call out to the audience that things can’t and shouldn’t return to the way it was. That ultimately they learn from this and the narrator says that Ken’s will one day hold as much power as women do in our world?
@@jbkeown1 That narrator line is sarcasm. Theyre indicating that women dont have as much power as men and thats what will happen to the Kens (therefore the barbies will always be on top). And president Barbie was gonna let things go back to the way they were with Kens at the bottom of the hierarchy. Its only after the Kens ask that she gives a lower level government position to the Kens, she even rolls her eyes at giving them a higher position in the future
You have an exceedingly unwarranted amount of self-importance if you think TCD sent anybody after you.
Good thing that’s not what I claimed then, isn’t it!
@@PillarofGarbage But you did?
11:12 "sick their goons on you"
Do you think we're stupid or something?
The issue of power is interesting within the context of Barbieland. Sometimes the Barbies and Kens function like representations of real world men and women but other times they seem like an entity unto themselves. In the latter case, Barbieland has genders but those genders are Barbie and Ken rather than women and men. I think the film works better when it leans on the latter and uses them as a less direct metaphor but it raises narrative questions:
The Barbies are clearly dominant and their lives more central to the world but did the Barbies have any say in the structure of their society? Was President Barbie elected or, like Ken's love for Barbie, is it just an innate fact of her existence with no beginning? Can Physicist Barbie decide to do something else?
All questions I’d have liked to see more information about!
I really hope they make a second Barbie to answer these questions 🙏.
Very good point. I read a comment saying that rather than analyzing feminism through Barbie, the movie works better if you apply feminism to Barbie, a society all on its own. And I tend to agree.
One thing I loved about the movie is that barbieland is a representation of the way Barbies get played with in a kid's imagination. So yes president barbie "has" to be president, because when your aunt buys her for you that's what it says her role is on the box. Maybe president barbie goes on one-off adventures where she has to help your avengers action figures for a day, but the Barbies have prescribed roles because as a kid you are learning from these toys to navigate what different professions and roles mean. It mirrors how gender roles get "given" to us all in a million small ways. I think people like TCD who didn't connect with the movie just don't have the experience of the vivid interior lives that little girls (or other kids) have when playing with this kind of toy that simulates a child's /idea/ of adult roles
@@goldenwaver-themagicalspir9618I would absolutely watch that, if it's even a fraction as good as this one was.
I have my criticisms regarding these type of movies, most often I wished they delved deeper into the feminist/gender studies and even address some of the color blindness, but I still think it’s a modern classic and I’m glad to see it doing well.
I can’t stand drinker’s analysis. Of course he’ll have more bad faith criticism for this than something like sound of freedom that he recommends. That’s the only thing I hate about discussing this movie is that any good faith criticism (mines wanting the film to delve deeper) gets completely over shadowed by people like him and Shapiro.
It truly goes to show that even the more traditionally feminine-styled movies that he and his peers keep signaling Hollywood need to return to instead of characters like Captain Marvel don’t matter. The issue will always be modern women speaking up for themselves and making content that broadly resonates with them.
Can’t wait for the video. 2 more hours!
"Oppenheimer was not political in the slightest, it was about a bomb that explodes and people and that, yeah......."
>Film takes place during WWII where it's not just a fight against the nazis, but also a breakdown of human selfishness and how depraved humanity can really be.
Double standard my ass.
Mind you, Drinker loves Sound of Freedom, not cuz of "politiks" but because it does not include (Say it with me now).......
*T H E M E S S A G E*
@@fawful7457 It's almost as if Critical Drinker doesn't mind heavy-handed messaging in films as long as he personally agrees with the message.
@@jamesmaxwell1940 HIS MESSAGE, right.
As for whether I think he's unironically a bigot or not, I think he is not one and is some royal faux-intellectual that always has to go into autistic detail about culture war stuff UNRELATED to the material he's talking about.
Blud has some serious grandiosity complex.
@@jamesmaxwell1940 And what kind of name is "Critical Drinker"
That's the most Frank Miller/Garth Ennis shit I've heard in a long time.
What’s wrong with color blindness
Why am I not surprised that Tory doesn't like it?
I think his name is Will
@@barnaby4232you don’t know what Tory means do you lol
@Jellybob69 I do but the guy is Scottish so I don't think that makes much sense
@@barnaby4232okay so you don’t know what he means? He’s calling him a tory (conservative), not saying his name is Tory and I don’t get your point about him being Scottish? Scottish people can be tories, unfortunately.
Though Drinker is a royal family supporting conservative. He is one phony fuck of a Scot.
He's 100% a Tory voter and pro-Boris
yeah I can’t believe how much support the CD’s video has
The role of Ken in the Barbie movie is kinda funny how deep people are looking into it. If you look at the history of Barbie and Ken dolls, you'll see that the scary boogeyman people are pissing their pants over has been there longer than they've been alive. 😂
*slurred Critical Drinker noises in the distance*
The sheer number of these reactionary, aesthetically and philosophically illiterate 'reviewers' and the amount of influence they have is astounding. So many of these people just miss the most basic stuff in movies/TV and it keeps happening. To be so wrong for so long and so mediocre is just peak well, cishetwhiterightwinger. yeesh
@@ChuckNorrisFake The answer is that such a movie does not exist.
@ChuckNorrisFake one question back at you. Are you saying that "Barbie" portrays every woman in the movie as the "worst 1%" or are you trying to use it as a "see no movie portrays women like that but Barbie portrays men like that"? I need to know so to better explain why OP is right and you're misunderstanding just like Critical Drinker.
@@VainVanitas I should correct myself. No movie intentionally portrays either gender as the worst 1% of society and leaves it at that. There are plenty of movies where the protagonist/antagonist may be the only male/female and thus be representing the best/worst of society for that gender. But that would be entirely missing the point.
I haven't seen the Barbie movie yet, but I would guess if it was caricaturing either gender as cartoonishly evil or cartoonishly heroic, it's probably aiming to make a more nuanced point. This is just based on the reputation of those involved and the company that staked its future on this film being successful. Especially after the troubles Budweiser is going through and the difficulties Disney faces, I don't think Mattel is interested in courting much controversy when they're relying on this film to secure their future.
@@ChuckNorrisFake ok let's start this. Since you gave someone else a more indepth reason for why you think it's bad I'll use that comment to explain why you're misunderstanding. Spoilers ahead for others.
1) "all Kens are jerks 99% of the movie". The movie starts with the Kens being kind (at least to the Barbies) and just trying to get their attention (and hoping for their affection). Not being jerks, but definitely not being who they are for their own sakes (which I will get more into later). Then, when Ken, not being a jerk, but trying to show up another Ken, goes with Barbie to the real world he views a world that is opposite of his own where women are the "lesser" gender and he wants to change that around because he wants Barbie's love, attention, and a horse. That turning Barbieland around leads to the Kens acting out this idea of masculinity that Ken even says later on he didn't like. The other Kens just follow along. Alan hates it the whole time and even helps out the Barbies because he, too, does not like this idea of masculinity.
2) the sexual harassment in the real world. That kind of interaction is, unfortunately, commonplace for women in the real world. Yes, it is mildly exaggerated in that usually the men are more subtle with the physical harassment so they are less likely to be caught, but it happens much more than I think you realize. It also starts to show that the real world wasn't this cool place where women are respected because of Barbie like the Barbies thought.
3) the board of directors are childish men. This is most definitely a jab at Mattel and the idea that a toy being marketed and meant for young girls is run by not a single woman (besides a ghost on the 14th floor). They are also a red herring of a villain, since the true villain is the Patriarchy that holds both women and men to a standard that gods against who they are. Yes, the joke goes on a little too long, but it's less about them being that way because they're men and more about them being that way because toy company.
4) "every man is bad. Every woman is good." I, again, bring up Alan. He never followed the introduction of Patriarchy in Barbieland and helped to end it. He was an ally to the women. And the Kens were not bad, they were confused (again, will get into that later). As for the women, Barbie gave up. She wasn't going to fight back, she was just going to accept things as they were. And the other Barbies did the same. I wouldn't say accepting the issues and ignoring them until someone goes on a rant about thwir problems is *good*. I'd say it's just kinda average. Stereotypical, even.
5) "we're only fighting because we don't know who we are". That's literally the point of the movie. The Kens are fighting because they don't know who they are without the Barbies. They don't know who they are with Patriarchy either. They're just following these stereotypes because that's what they're told is masculine. They just do Beach because that's what Mattel made them for. But Ken likes horses. He needs to move forward and learn who he is without Barbie, just like their heart to heart in her bedroom said. He learns that he is "Kenough" and to be his own person. Not Barbie and Ken. But just Ken. And Barbie learns the same thing. She's stereotypical Barbie. She can be anything, but in a way she's nothing. So, she chooses to be who she wants to be and moves to the real world to figure that out. She's Barbie. He's Ken. They don't know who they are without someone telling them and they're working on fixing that.
You also mentioned the lack of subtlety, but seeing as so many people are having issues with the obvious, I think that was the right call...
@@ChuckNorrisFake Without even seeing the film, it sounds like you missed the point. I'll probably see the film later and maybe it really is all on the nose and it's exactly how you paint it.
However, I imagine there's a bigger point being made. For one, Kens are not real men just like Barbies are not real women. If all the crude remarks/actions all happen in the span of 3 minutes instead of spread throughout the duration of the film, then it's more like setting the stage rather than being the main point.
As for the Mattel BoD, I would guess the point is more about men being in charge of a product that supposedly promotes female empowerment. Maybe there's some meta commentary considering how incompetently Mattel has been run in the last decade.
As for the "we're only fighting because we don't know who we are," I can't see how that is condescension. Kens were literally created to be accessories to Barbie.
Drinker doesn't see the irony in his Channel's name
Quality work!
I once had a character that was the embodiment of Toxic Masculinity, he drank Jack Daniel's. Interesting, isn't it?
Hey! I drink that stuff! 🥃
@@celiacresswell6909 Don't worry, it's necessary but not sufficient. XD
Could you tell me about this character, in what way did they embody toxic masculinity?
@@ianwalpole1201 Only expressing anger and lust, constantly competitive with other men, treated women as only for sex, acting like a self destructive jerk. Need to be as masculine as possible. And completely miserable.
@@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm Why is that "toxic masculinity"? there are women with that type of behavior as well?
The Critical Drinker truly is Dave Bautista’s character from Glass Onion
Men are peripheral in Barbie because when girls play with Barbies, Ken is usually peripheral. So much of Barbieland isn’t created by the writers of the movie at all but is rather determined by the product and how the product is played with IRL. In fact, I think the writers have imposed very little story or their own ideas into the movie and instead have simply very intuitively and cleverly discovered and unearthed the story that already exists within the world of Barbie, within how Barbies are played with, and even within how some girls become disenchanted with Barbie. Example: when Ken wants to, pre-real world, come over to Barbie’s place one night, neither of them even know what for or why he would do that; that moment is informed by the innocence that little girls would bring to that moment. When America starts playing with Barbie while stressed and disenchanted, then that becomes mirrored in Barbieland like a parallel universe. Any “feminist” or “misandrist” “messaging” doesn’t actually necessarily come from the filmmakers (though it may happen to coincide with the filmmakers’ values) but instead simply come from the product line, from how its marketed, and from how the toys are played with and experienced IRL.
This movie is perfect litmus for finding out if someone has gendered biases
I've heard some women are taking their dates to see Barbie just to know their opinion surrounding gender.
@@holly.5440those men better reevaluate whether they want to stay in a relationship when you’re being tested by a significant other via your response to a movie.
And I’m not a right wing white male btw. Just a very annoyed woman.
@@abandonallhope.1040 Says you. I like this idea.
@@nerag7459 I broke up with a man because he had an opinion about the Barbie movie I didn’t like
12:30 The director of this movie said in interviews that she wanted the negative and valid views on Barbie to be expressed by "a really smart character", that's the role of the daughter Sasha. So yeah, it's the movie intention for the audience to empathize with the daughter.
"But with that scene in particular, my awareness of Barbie as a thing in the world completely corresponded with me knowing the arguments against Barbie. I didn’t think there was any way to do this without giving that real estate and having well-articulated, correct arguments from a really smart character given to Barbie against Barbie. Also, I grew up with a mom who was kind of against Barbie, so that’s how I knew all that. If you don’t give voice to that, then you’re nowheresville."
I think you formulated yourself really well in this video
Appreciated the callback to your older video on drinker at the end 😂
When I seen the title of Drinkers video I decided to watch it for a laugh. I honestly thought he was going to burst into tears during this "review" He contradicts himself two minutes into the video. He mentions the marketing duping people then complains about the doll smashing moment which literally one of the first thing shown in the very first teaser. He also complains and says the film's mean spirited and yet him and his pals are constantly going after certain people whether be Brie Larson, Kathleen Kennedy and Snow White actress Rachel Zegler has become a new target for them recently. The hypocrisy is astounding. You couldn't make it up.
I agree that Drinker's review is bad but like "He also complains and says the film's mean spirited and yet him and his pals are constantly going after certain people whether be Brie Larson, Kathleen Kennedy and Snow White actress Rachel Zegler has become a new target for them recently."? Like, yeah his complaints about the film being mean spirited aren't valid, but not because they make fun of Brie Larson and Kathleen Kennedy? Also, I've never heard them make fun of RZ, just the movie as a whole.
@@jeremyusreevu237They've definitely been targeting RZ specifically in recent days.
I haven't seen the movie, so I won't take a side on who is right or wrong in their critiques, but I did watch Drinker's review, this review, and then multiple reviews of this review which tried to discuss the points made by both sides.
From what I've seen it seems like both Drinker and Pillar make some valid arguments and both have some real stretches in their logic/conclusions. There seems to be a debate about whether this movie is satire or not and whether or not that satire is intentional. That leads me to conclude that multiple interpretations are completely reasonable, and I wish the debate was presented as "here is why I have this interpretation" rather than "this person is lying or stupid because they interpret it differently".
As I said in the premiere chat, Drinker should be lucky he didn't see Nimona too. A movie like that and Barbie in the span of less than a month? He'd go insane.
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Good point! @PillarofGarbage should have a look at Nimona as well, it's a great movie that still has story-telling flaws (in it's world building and some plot holes) and thus makes for some fruitful analysis.
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@@SIZModig The setting is a cyberpunk with knights and lasers. What issues with worldbuilding do you have. its supposed to be silly.
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It specifically really annoys me how he keeps saying it "tricked" kids, the movie is PG 13. I was shocked to see younger kids in the movie theatre when I watched it with friends!
edit: i’m so tired of the replies i keep getting saying this is meant for kids. It’s not, your four year old won’t understand it, nor will your eight year old. This movie is meant for teenagers and up. That’s my point. If you want barbie media specially with a child demographic, there are a bunch of movies to show them.
....And the fact that you saw kids in there even though it was PG-13 is evidence that many people thought it was meant for kids, no?
@@legogenius1667that’s the fault of the parents lol
@@legogenius1667 So was every Marvel movie ever.
@@legogenius1667Parents bring their kids everywhere. Sometimes because nobody is at the house. The movie is not "for kids" in the sense that Paw Patrol is for kids. Sure a kid could watch but it's mainly for older folk like teenager to adults. Again PG-13.
@@legogenius1667 I saw kids in the movie theater when I went to see Scream 6. Some parents really don't care what their child watches. And Barbie doesn't have any sex scenes and no real acts of violence so taking kids to see it isn't going to traumatize them. At worst most of the jokes and commentary is just going to go over their heads.
Also Ken's are disposable with no job or home because if you look at the Barbie Toy line, there is one type of Ken which is Barbie's boyfriend and that's it. Whereas you can buy all types of different barbies.
I've seen a Barbie Dreamhouse, but never a Ken's. No wonder they're homeless.
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Great video! 👏👏
The real problem is that Critical drinker isn't actually reviewing movies. His actual work is Hating the "woke." In his first year or so he actually reviewed movies, but didn't get many views, he then realized Hating on "wokeness" got views. I watched his videos steadily stop being actual reviews and start being longer and longer Hate-tirades against anything not explicitly conservative. Drinkers "movie review" is a thin façade for the Hate.
But I don't think he actually cares one way or the other, he's only in this for the money his views bring. He doesn't care if you side with his Hate, or Hate his videos, Hate is Hate and views are views; if you watch he gets paid.
This also sort of works when you have a series of actually bad or mediocre projects to slam, because most people will uncritically accept a reason for why something is bad, so long as it sounds intuitive. But once you start hitting something that lots of people think is good, you get push back.
My point is, you can think something is bad, and be wrong about WHY it's bad. Which is why roasting bad movies and shows is so EASY. People like doing it, it's 'fun', and it's rarely critically examined.
@@Bustermachine It's really telling when he pulls up She-Hulk, Captain Marvel and Ghostbusters 2016 as this film's progenitors, all of which are projects that have been deemed by consensus to be mediocre and forgettable, but have little commonality with Barbie outside of being female-led projects. Pivotally, he doesn't bring up any of the actual films that inspired Gerwig while making this film that it clearly has more in common with, because that would require actually thinking about the film and its messages, and would expose his review for the shameless misinformed grift that it is
Damn, was the Drinker even watching the same Barbie movie?? Or even the same trailers??? As always, I appreciate your content 👏
It was crazy how many people formed a negative opinion on the movie AFTER his review came out. They didn’t and aren’t even going to watch the movie.
I honestly can’t believe this guy thinks he looks cool wearing sunglasses indoors all the time
They seemed to model themselves after Andrew Tate, who they idolize downright to having that ridiculous goatee.
Reminds me of Jim Jones who used to wear sunglasses all the time... Which help cover up his constant drug use reflected in his eyes and would lie to people that his real gaze would vaporize them like lasers.
I get the feeling CD, Andrew Tate and all these alt-right "alpha male" guys want to imitate that asinine belief especially with Tate believing in Sex magic.
Usually people who wear sunglasses inside are using them as a sort of way to hide in someway, it’s like a warm blanket. He’s a pu$$y.
I don't want to generalize, because there's tons of good reasons for why you wouldn't fully show your face on CZcams and lots of creator are nothing but disembodied voices with some silly picture as an avatar . . .
But there's also a legitimate line of thought that stuff like this is used to create a power imbalance in social situations. Or in the case of youtube, parasocial situations. When you deny somebody the ability to see your eyes you're creating an informational deficit in your favor in a social interaction. It's a form of dominance display. The eyes may not be truly 'windows to the soul' but they do provide a lot of information that one party is openly giving and the other is actively denying.
This can be harmless, like I said, there's reasons to remain anonymous on youtube. But there's also evidence that showing your face, but not your eyes, is different from not showing your face at all. So I think it's very situational.
@@Bustermachine you are definitely thinking to deep on why he wears sunglasses in doors. Is just part of the character he plays during his reviews. And its so ridiculous how many people try to make a joke about him drinking in a very serious way, when he's just an average person just like the rest of us.
almost like they lack any sense of self awareness lol
Though I agree with much of what you say, the trailers really did hide a lot of. I thought it was going to be a romcom about accepting aging with classic cinema references.
But did you ever think it was for children? No.
@@beejls it's Barbie, of course I thought it was a family movie meant for children.
@@Wol333 because you never turn on your computer cell phone or TV? The ads for it make it clear it's not. They talk about death, for one.
I'm so happy that original and unique movies like Barbie, Oppenheimer, MI7, John Wick 4, and Spiderverse are dominating the box office. The artists aren't limited with their creativity and there's a clear passion shown in these projects. Personally, Barbie wasn't my favorite, had a few flaws and isn't my preference, but I'm glad it's become a cultural phenomenon
You have 3 sequel movies in your list of 5 "original and unique" movies.
You're analysis is bang-on, its great to see movies being made with passion once more (whether I enjoy them or not), but I had to point out there is very little "original" here.
3 sequels, a biography, and a (pre-existing) product movie hoping to launch another CU.
None of the movies you referenced were original at all… and all were soulless.
I’m sorry you’re a lost soul.
Pillar of Garbage sees the positivity at everything so he naturally opposes Critical Drinker who sees exclusively negativity at everything.
'You really duped all of us into thinking Barbie was just gonna be an easy-going, lighthearted family comedy!'
I know right, Drinker? We thought it'd be that and then it was a really interesting story about growing up and the way gender norms hurt people! ...oh wait, you meant they 'tricked you into watching feminist propaganda', don't you?
The story wasn't interesting and it actually speaks in favor of gender roles of you actually pay attention.
Lbh alot of you will never say anything bad about it because the internet has made it to were anyone being critical is seen as a bigot.
@@improbablyyourdad8458) and anyone criticizing Daily Wire is just "triggered"
Your video lives up to your channel name. No false advertising. 😢
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@@PillarofGarbagelol, and? You went "it's not family friendly. It's just made for families" or sum such shit to dunk on CD.
@@codyopperman5930 12 Age Rating
It exists for a reason
@@CMGThePerson ok. Go back to that point in the video and tell me Pillar didn't mental gymnastics his way into a different definition to say the same thing as CD, but also call him wrong
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I don’t think that CD’s review is Kenough