Delonghi Magnifica Esam 4200 In Depth - Best Cheap Bean to Cup / Automatic Espresso Machine?
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- This is my unboxing, setup and detailed review of the DeLonghi Magnifica Esam 4200 bean to cup coffee machine, or Automatic espresso machine.
There are lots of newer low cost machines on the market, but I reckon this one is still one of the best cheap options, and I show & explain why in this video. For me this is one of the most underrated machines on the market, it's not perfect and I demonstrate why this is the case, but these imperfections I think are more than acceptable for the cost, and can be worked around as I explain in the video.
Product links:
DeLonghi Magnifica Esam 4200 from Amazon UK: amzn.to/3rS1NJR
DeLonghi Magnifica Esam 4200 from DeLonghi UK: tidd.ly/48TOa2b
Blog Reviews:
Delonghi Magnifica Esam 4200 Review(UK) coffeeblog.co.uk/delonghi-mag...
Best Delonghi Machines (UK) coffeeblog.co.uk/best-delongh...
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Timecodes:
Intro: 0:00
Unboxing: 1:15
Setup: 1:50
Demo: 5:56
Conclusion: 25:35
Outro: 34:06
Tatty Bye: 34:40
#DeLonghi #beantocup #espressomachine
This is my 2nd Keurig coffee maker of this model. czcams.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf The first worked fine for more than 2 years, and I could still get a decent cup of coffee out of it if I fiddled with it when I decided to replace it. The problem I had with my first unit was this: When attempting to brew a cup of coffee, the unit would either keep brewing until the coffee was undrinkable or it would not run long enough and the coffee produced was way too strong. I cleaned the unit as best I could but it did not help. So in the end it was just too much trouble to get a good cup of coffee out of it, so I decided to replace it with a new one, which has been working great since I unpacked it.
Thanks for that... tons of info. on the subject of my b2c machine that I've never seen anywhere else. Very helpful! cheers 😊
I've had one of these for years, and it was already several years old when I got it used. Still going strong and reasonably consistent once you have it dialled in to your preference.
Hi David, I'm glad that this machine works for you :-)
The technique of turning the steam wand on to cool the machine when both ligths are blinking is a game changer! I can't tell you the amount of times I've missed the train for work because I was waiting for the machine to reset after accidentally switching to steam before pulling my shot!
Hello Kev, came across your blog when looking for an independent coffee machine reviewer and really pleased to find this video too! Great work, love your style and will be recommending your expertise to friends!
Thank you for the very kind words :-)
Extremely useful. Thorough and clearly explained. Thank you.
I'm glad you found my post helpful :-)
Just got one for Christmas so video really helps so thank you Kev and a Happy Christmas to you
Happy Christmas to you too Gordon :-)
Cheers
Kev
Fantastic informative video, thank you. I've learnt so much that isn't in the instruction book
Thanks Matthew :-)
Thanks Kev. I bought this after seeing your review and have watched it again several times whilst learning how to use it. Great easy to watch video ☕👏👍
Thanks Alsion 👍😀
Same here mate, thanks a lot!
I've had mine 13 years and never knew the coffee temperature was adjustable. Press and hold the descale button on mine to activate, ground coffee button to adjust. Also, when selecting double shot, my machine runs its grinder for approximately twice as long as for single shot (I've timed it over 10 shots per size). I guess machines like this are only as good as the setup at the factory. Thanks for the video.
came here to get some tips on the milk frothing, wanted some tips on how to get the proper consistency cause its always to thick for me 😔 wished for an image to see inside the cup to see the angle and everything .
But did not know about milk steaming so its something new that I learned and will try.
Thank for the explanations, been having this coffee espresso for years also, still works good❤️
Thanks for this. Much better than reading the manual :)
Can I ask, for an Americano, what's the difference between the (Expresso + Water) you show and just increasing the volume of water going through the brew by turning the "coffee quantity selection" knob dial to say half-way?
This is the best video I've seen on this coffee machine.
I learnt so much and in particular the fact that a double shot "isn't a double shot", was really valuable. Setting the client to "3" also worked for me. I'm sure it was in the description in the manual but I was unaware of the fact that you could change the heat of the brew and I had mine set far too low so again, thank you for that. I will put this out on my Twitter feed.
Superb and I love this machine and have been using mine for close on 8 years with no problems added to which the support from DeLonghi is 2nd to none.
Best wishes and Merry Christmas
Thanks Rich,
Have a very Happy Christmas too,
Cheers
Kev
+1 for reading the manual. 👍 Thank you.
Haha, cheers Marco
Love your reviews. Nice details and perfect conclusions. Would be really interested in a review of the Jura D6. Jura is one of the top brands in the Netherlands, with a really good track record over the past +- 20 years, but couldn't find a review on your channel. Would be really interested in your opinion! Cheers
Thanks for your feedback Donald, I will of course have a look at the Jura D6 When I get the chance.
Cheers
Kev
Hey! Would love to see a video around getting the best out of the magnifica s smart. I’ve recently switched to it from the Philips 5400, which I guess is probably a bit of a downgrade, but the Philips just didn’t make drinks hot enough for my liking 😂 I drink lattes and on the Philips everything was done for me at the touch of a button with preprogrammed settings etc, now with the magnifica s smart I’m trying to understand how to get the best from it but could use a little guidance. I’ve watched a fair few of your videos/read some of the blogs.
Before I have bought DeLonghi Primadonna Class,
I have been using this machine for years and before I have bought this Magnifica, I did a deep research.
In my opinion,
this is the best cheap been to cup coffee machine by a respected brand.
And the fact,
that it's in production for let's say fourteen years,
speak for itself.
Yes, my new Primadonna Class is better (obviously).
But for this price,
you won't be disappointed.
Thanks for your message.
Cheers
Kev
Tx a lot❤ is there a new version of Esam 4200?
Hi Kev, so for this machine, do you recommend a grind setting of 3? I'll be using medium roast if that's a concern. Thanks
Great video. I’ve just got one of these units. But with the americano option why wouldn’t you just turn the dial fully to the right to increase the volume rather than pulling a small shot and topping up,with water?
Hi Kev, would love to see you review the Baratza Sette 30, especially as it's considered entry level in line with the smart grinder Pro.
Cheers Simon, yeah I keep meaning to get my hands on this grinder and review it, will do. Cheers, Kev.
I have just come across your videos. I have had this bean-to-cup coffee machine over the last year or so. This may be a stupid question, but when you made your americano at the end you did the shots of coffee then you added the additional water via the wand. Being lazy I have set my two shot program to fill my mug (with space for a dash of milk). I am guessing using this lazy technique I am overextracting the coffee and getting a poor result?
Hey Kev! Brilliant review. I can't decide between the Magnifica, Magnifica S and the Magnifica S Smart - when will you be reviewing the Magnifica S Smart? Thank you
Ta for the kind words, I'll review the S smart very soon, but there's very little difference between the S and the S Smart, it's mainly that the S Smart has the cool panarello wand that the Dedica EC685 has. Cheers, Kev.
Coffee Ordered also From Nicaragua and also Ethiopian. Great discounts-looking forward to receiving.
Let me know what you think Rich,
Cheers
Kev
@@Coffee_Kev excellent coffee. Many thanks
Could you recommend a non-bitter bean? My wife got espresso beans from an old Lady who was roasting them (nonpackaged ) in the sticks in Brazil a few years back! Nearly like chocolate they were so nice!
Hi is there anyway to get double the amount of coffee with the double shot then ?
This is the machine I have after selling my gaggia classic and grinder. I'm more than happy with the results, near as dammit the same as a dedicated espresso machine with no mess and faff. If you want to play home batista then go for all separate units but I prefer my automatic 👌🏻
Yeah I think it's each to their own, to many people a bean to cup/automatic espresso machine like this produces coffee they're very happy with with a great amount of convenience.
I have the Magnifica and I have decaf (for health reasons) and hubby has full strength. I grind in a separate grinder (hubby's beans have pride of place in the auto grinder area) and I usually add 9g of ground coffee. I'm worried if I add more the machine will poop itself as it specifically states in the flip up lid of the "add your own grinds" section says strictly one scoop. So are you saying the auto grind is usually about 10g and "double" is 12g. My coffees aren't as dark as hubby's. So realistically I could increase my decaf amount to 12g? Happy days.
Hey! This machine seems to not be available anymore at decent price, do you know any other machine with very precise selection for water and coffee? Thanks for the vid
Why do you change the grind to 3 from factory settings 6?
Hello. Does this have an only hot water option ?
Great machine, i have mine almost 5 years, had only one problem with front panel electronic, changed it for 30 euros (there are parts everywhere for this model) and im making coffes 5-10 times a day every day.
If you want good coffee you must buy good one, from my experience best coffe is Lavazza CREM coffee, or every coffe that have CREAM in name.....
Hi Kev, It seems strange to me that delonghi seem to be still manufacturing this. Do you have a comparison between this, the S and the S Smart versions? They all seem to be about the same price points but newer versions. I'm looking to buy one but can't make my mind up.
Hi Martin, yeah there's a tendency among coffee machine manufacturers to add to the range rather than to replace, especially when they have a machine that has done well. I will do a comparison video, but in a nutshell the newer ones are a bit smaller, a tad quieter, buttons are programmable in terms of volume by pressing and holding, and the S Smart has the decent panarello wand that the dedica e6c85 has. Cheers, Kev.
Any chance of a short video using other settings of strength and volume to explain what drinks to use them for? I'm really struggling to get settings for a strong latte, and a medium americana with milk :(
I will add it to my ever growing list of videos to do :-)
Hi Kev, I've had this machine around a year now and found this the best / in depth review about the coffee machine. I do have one question for you though regarding the water adjustment and extraction of the espresso shot. Why did you come to the conclusion that changing the amount of water, means adjusting the amount of water used during the brewing process? Personally, I don't believe this is true. I think the machine adjusts the amount of water depending on the strength level you chose with the right knob. Then the only control we really have is over the grind level. Obviously a full strength shot made with less water will taste stronger than a single shot mixed with a full cup of water. If you try the different water settings on the left, you will notice that even when brewing a full cup of coffee, the initial 5 seconds or so is the espresso shot been delivered and after that it is mainly water. Also, with this bean to cup machine it seems impossible to deliver an espresso shot that is delivered in 15 seconds. Maybe it's because I am not using freshly roasted / high quality beans. But I have tried a lot of beans from the Lavazza range.
I ordered this yesterday and it arrived this morning. Very nearly sent it back as it nearly ended out the window. Followed the setup instructions to the letter and it failed to function. Tried later and for some reason it worked. I love it although not yet figure out how in hell to froth the milk. I can bring it to temperature but it just doesn't want to froth. I get a little foam on the top like someone has spat in my coffee and that's it.
Still love it though, I know I'm not going to master it too quickly and when I do - going to celebrate with a flat white and a cappuccino then practice learning how to draw pictures.
Sounds like a plan Zeb,
Enjoy :-)
Cheers
Kev
I had my Magnifica for 2 years and have learned a few things watching this video, thanks.
I'm glad I could help!
Hi Kev, thank you so much for this video, it's my birthday present from my husband and I was nearly throwing it away, it's working now thanks to your video. I mean not my husband, the machine. This video has to be on Delonghi website! Much easier to understand than their printed instructions.
Hi Yuri,
Thanks for your message, I'm so glad you got sorted and my post helped you achieve that!
Glad you didn't throw your husband away too!! :-0,
Such lovely feedback, I really appreciate it.
Cheers
Kev
So does the left dial just add water?
Instead of hitting the double shot button and getting a weaker strength, would the workaround be to hit the single shot twice? Or is there a time limit you need to wait between pours?
Hi Marc, yeah that's the workaround, but unlike with the Gaggia machines which make a double shot when you press the shot button twice, with the DeLonghi machines you'll need to press the shot button, wait for the shot to finish, then press it again. Cheers, Kev.
We have one of these for my team of maintenance guys in the south of France. I can't find the service menu details to get to the cup count, which I think will be significant! Any chance you could point me in the right direction please?
Bizzare user name! where did that come from?
Kevin plz would you tell me Yr preference of this machine and the Magnifica s bcoz I don't know the differences! I want to buy one today on Prime day!
Sorry for the delay Wendy. Magnifica S is the newer updated version, it's a bit slimmer, bigger water tank, and looks a bit more modern, that's about it really. For more comparisons see: coffeeblog.co.uk/best-delonghi-coffee-machines/
Hi Kev, Thank you for posting the video. I've got a 4200.s and I think somehow I've lost the heat setting as the shot is cooler than it used to be... I've tried following your instruction to 'turn the machine off and then use press and hold the one shot button' to put it into set up mode' but when I power off and press the button, nothing happens! What am I doing wrong? Any advice?
I trial and errored with mine, when the machine is turned off press and hold the rinse/descale button. I think it may be down to a slightly different version of the controller board.
@@Kieran-Hodgson Thanks Kieren, yes, holding the rinse/descale button does it. Being anble to do any thing when the systems is officially powered down is kinda worrying. Makes the point that the only way to be sure a device is safe is to unplug it from the wall. Alas the brew temp was already set to high. I m really more interested in the main water temp as I find the coffee cooler than I'd like/remember. My machine is quite old now 10+ years. I descale to schedule. I'm left wondering if its time to replace the heating elements? They are available as spares. The steam wand works ok though so its a bit of a mystery. Do you know the serve temp of a regular expresso - I can compare with mine. Mayb it is simply working to spec and it is what it is?
@@emsspark-bowedstrings4281 mine has come out on the cooler side since I got it, I think it's just the way the machine is designed sadly. I'm looking to upgrade so a much higher end machine as soon as money allows.
Hi Kev do I have to change the grind setting when it’s grinding?
Hi Greg, yeah you should always have the grinder running while you change the grind, certainly when making it finer anyway, in theory making it more coarse while not running wouldn't cause a problem, cheers, Kev
Hello Kev. I have one like this for some years. Bought it secondhand and are actually happy with it, BUT - after some time, the machine turn off automatically, and we again have to wait for the start up procedure.
Is it possible to turn off this feature?
Hi Johnny, It's an EU thing, and as far as I know you can't turn it off, If I ever find out you can I will update the post.
Ta
When it's turned off at the front but not the back, you can hold the economy button down till you see the bottom lights come up and press the steam button till all are lit up.Dont forget to press the economy button to confirm the selection after! I think it will stay on for about 3 hours?😉
Awesome !!! ... so much better than a capsule machine & all the expensive non-organic waste they produce...
Thanks Douglas :-), yeah using freshly ground coffee beans I do think is a much better solution for the environment than capsules.
Haven't noticed the channel name change before. Its better- more personal.
Thanks :-)
what kind of coffee does it make and would you recommend it for purchase?
Hi, unfortunately the 4200 is now discontinued,
please see my blog post on similar Delonghi machines:
coffeeblog.co.uk/delonghi-magnifica-esam-4200-review/
Cheers
Kev
Would you always tend to get a better coffee with a manual like the dedica etc?
I would say definitely yes!, The more control you have yourself to created a coffee to your taste and style then you are always going to get better coffee. Of course it also depends on the quality of the beans you are using too :-)
@@Coffee_Kev thanks for responding im gonna get a dedica
@@Coffee_Kev Hi Kev i've got a dedica and dose control pro coming tomorrow along with a bottomless portafilter
Thanks Kev! We had use of this machine when on holiday recently. Coffee was reasonable (given that we only had supermarket beans) but the thing that was annoying was how long you had to wait after steaming milk before you could pull another shot - very annoying when I arrived for breakfast just as hubby had finished making his morning latte!
ummm I guess you missed that being covered in the video then.
@@prestonian1066 Duh! Don’t know how I failed to register that that was the same problem we had. Rewatched and found it - many thanks. 🙂
I bought one of these and I just could not get on with it. That lack of being a double shot but not adding double coffee annoyed me. To be honest I was the problem. I just don't like espresso coffee. I did try a number of speciality coffees but that probably made things worse. The coffee you like is what you are brought up with. In my younger days, people had a percolator on the stovetop. I think you can still get them. Some people had a course grind and boiled it. That could give a good taste. Are we using too many different methods to make coffee? I will stick to my Sage Precision but that takes a bit of dialling in too.
Cheers Robert. Yeah espresso isn't for everyone, but that's the great thing about all the different methods which produce slightly different results, we can all find one that works for us.
Great video. Though it genuinely looks like his right hand fell off or he lost total function of it during the conclusion from 25:36 onwards
I hate it when that happens! ;-).
Hahaha, I came to the comments to say the same thing 🤣
Of course, if you want to record your preferred settings for when others mess it up, you can just put a dab of paint or - in case the boss has a cleaning fetish - scratch a mark into the fascia. (But not, I suspect, if it's a loan machine for review purposes😂)
Haha, tipex would do it 👍😆
LOL, permanent marker on mine 😁
I love this machine, but I'll admit I'm not particularly fond of the steam wand.
Better than a kuerig kcup machine though, thats for sure.
Why everyone is so happy and im not? I bought this machine today after my Melitta break down, and im 100 % was happy with it and now im sad with delonghi. Because coffee is not strong enough. I used 4 beans from 5 on melitta and here i put the strongest beans and its weak like wee.....i cant believe it😢😢😢😢
hello , why changing the grind settings WHILE the grinding process ?
Hi :-), simply because if you grind finer while the burrs aren't spinning, it's possible (in theory, at least) to take burrs out of alignment due to bits of bean getting stuck in between the burrs.
@@Coffee_Kev waouh , alright , you're officially my favourite youtuber mate thank you so much for your content you're the best 😊❤️❤️
@@malekbaouindi4 haha thanks, very kind of you 🙂, Ta, Kev.
What's a good bean to cup for under 500
Hi Nick,
Have a read of my post :coffeeblog.co.uk/10-best-coffee-machines-under-500/
It might give you an idea of what you are looking for :-)
Cheers
Kev
He sounds like one of Phonejacker's characters
I am! 😆
👍👍👍💪💪💪👏👏👏
Mate that steamer put me right off this product way too long process
Its not for everyone!
Bitte deutsch
Ive probably owned this machine for 3 years and its been repaired under warranty once. Overall I would never recommend this. It leaks relentlessly. Even after being repaired. The descaling cycle timesout after a period making you start again. The steamer is extremely under-powered. Your grounds get everywhere within the internals of the machine. They never all land in the grounds basket. Ive also had issues with the grinder especially with darker beans. This was my first bean to cup machine and its made never want to buy a delonghi again. A truly abysmal machine please buy something else.
Don't buy this model. I had this machine for 5 years and had to send it back for repair three times. Folks get the Delonghi Cafe Corso ESAM 2800 machine, I've had it six years and still going strong .
It could be that you were unlucky, to be fair, I know many people who've had the 4200 for years without issue. Cheers.
@@Coffee_Kev what happens is the burr grinder wears out so you have to set it finer and finer over time
Interesting, I've had one for about 5 years now without issue. I also had use of one at my old work going through about a kilogram of beans a day. It was still going ok after atleast a year of use.