10 Years Ago, LoL Fans Predicted 2023
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- I opened the original League of Legends time capsule, which chronicalled what the game looked like 10 years ago, and predicted what it would look like in 2023.
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Original Post: www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege...
Predictive Front Page 1: i.imgur.com/VqpXB32.png
Predictive Front Page 2: i.imgur.com/k1tosIi.jpeg
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:22 - Past
10:22 - Future - Hry
The fact you made a league of legends video WHILE touching grass is an absurd flex
league player touching grass ? XDDDD good joke, thats a green screen bud
Went down to comment this
I mean, he doesn't play anymore
This man is in front of a green screen 😂
@@dubtroll you can see the grass moving as he moves his feet
Poster of the original time capsule here, super cool video and I still get so happy when people bring that post up. I had some of my best gaming memories playing League in that era so I always get such a nice nostalgia bomb when I see that old post and the comments on it!
Thank you for making the post, really interesting as ex-league player.
Do you still play league now? What games are you playing currently?
@@z3roshark I still play league occasionally but quit ranked a few seasons ago, I mainly just play ARAM and follow the pro scene. I had a lot more time 10 years ago so I don’t really play many games these days but I loved Baldur Gate 3 and the only other games I play are Chess and OSRS. Glad you enjoyed the post! :)
@@EthanSierra48whats your chess rating?😊
Your post brought back so many memories of League from back then, I honestly forgot about. Crazy how we thought more game modes and maps would just keep coming and yet 10 years later, all we got is ARAM and SR. Forever wishing they would bring back twisted treeline
this is where I'm at. I play TFT and ARAMs with friends. I have all the time in the world now (disabled) but competitive league makes me incredibly anxious these days. still watch pro games on occasion! as far as MOBAs I play pokemon unite since I can play from bed. lol. @@EthanSierra48
To me, Gbay himself is a time capsule. Whenever, I watch these videos, it just brings out so many great memories. 😁
If anyone ever calls me a time capsule, I think I will start crying
i thought the same reading the video title
Same. It's the closest I can get to having those days back.
Honestly. His runescape video on why pvp is so exciting is my absolute favorite.
the nicest way to say someone fell off lol
6:26 I think it's also worth remembering that competitive league did get broadcast on TV during 2020 because all the traditional sports leagues were unable to play due to covid.
Just hijacking to add onto this; I don't know about other places, but at least here in Denmark I know that CS is regularly broadcast on tv, with local casters and such. I don't know if League gets the same treatment though, since I imagine a big part of CS being popular enough to broadcast is because of the success of Astralis
@@T0NI_ Same for Spain
@@T0NI_I know that in Poland LEC is being brodcast on TV
@@T0NI_Denmark has some great players across the decades and maybe that’s the point.
Lots of those players played through source or 1.6, CS:GO, and will continue being there for fans in CS2.
That said, Sweden
surely takes the ‘CS success’ title of all time and it’s popularity there reflects it.
My time in poland, the every-day person was familiar with one of Pashabiceps, Byali, Neo, Taz or Snax, even if they had never heard of Counter-Strike.
Can always count on our boy to break out an interesting retrospective. Most look back on meta and champion history, but Gbay is here to show us the history of the community mentality, an equally interesting part of the game history that I'm glad he's covering in a fun way.
I feel it's worth mentioning, I remember seeing a parody champion spotlight of the Raptor camp as a playable character and the predicted move det of the Raptors are very similar to Nafiri's
It hurts to see 3s still gone. TT and dominion were the only things keeping me playing the game consistently. When they removed them i just fell off the game and only come back for alternate game modes now.
Same. Ever since 3s got removed I've basically stopped playing, and I'd been playing since late season 2/early season 3.
The reason being that when I was younger I had so much free time that I didn't mind a wasted game now and then due to playing with randoms, but as my time got more limited I began only wanting to play with friends to reduce the likelihood of trolls/flaming/pointless games. The only way I could do that consistently was in 3s, so I became dedicated 3s player for a long time, so when 3s went so did I.
There’s a new arena mode you should try it fast games
I literally quit the game when TT was removed. TT was the only thing keeping me playing after all those years, because it was my favorite gamemode. I hated the game for years, but TT was worth playing, and then killing it, just made the game pointless to play. I played a lot of dominion too, but didn't get to experience it for long since I started in the beginning of s3, I was so sad when it left.
Arena fuckin sucks they shouldve just brought back dominion or ascension with slight changes
I was a huge fan of hide and seek. Me and my friends still play it on summoners rift, but its just not the same without dominion.
4:15 Something to note is that the meta probably would have changed, but Riot did everything they could to enforce that meta, which is why it still exists today. What's interesting though is really early on they wanted the game to be 2-1-2 (which was common at the time) and the jungle was just something laners would take between waves, but whenever they tried to make jungle unviable, the people that did enjoy jungling would complain. This was the only time Riot allowed a meta change and they haven't allowed it since.
Riot has been pushing you to play some Mages in the bot lane but y'all refuse to fuckin do it.
Meanwhile we have Pantheon and Sett as supports along with basically a dozen mages whos sole function is waveclearing, relegated to Support because they have zero lane pressure OR scaling compared to bruisers and assassins that now centralize midlane.
Karthus is a Jungler, Syndra is a Bot carry, and Heimer is a support now, because mage items are so utterly awful
I remember a lane swap or the funneling strat was a new way to play the game. Heck even support item in lane. Sucks that those strats were gutted with top lane turrets take less damage early, and support item takes less gold with increasing minion cs.
So stupid to gut all those strats
Wasn't the case for Dota. Icefrog absolutely made sure that the Jungler role will never come back ever again and it's for the better. Besides the rich support is somewhat similar in playstyle compared to League's jungler role anyway. You're just very active on roaming but don't neglect your responsibilities as a support.
@@Nazuiko They keep trying to force champions with high base damage solo laners into the botlane and its so cancer. These champs basically play the same as in solo lanes but with a bit less gold. The adc is then left alone for the rest of the game.
In all fairness, having a standarized meta like this is really good for soloQ, where it's harder to coordinate strategies. This way, everyone knows more or less what their role will be. And Riot has made some efforts trying to diversify the kinds of champions that are played in each role, tryign to make mages viable in the bot lane while making champs like darius or talon viable in the jungle, or even creating champs designed to fill specific niches such as Kindred for an adc jungler.
Man I still consider Diana and Zac new champions, can't believe it's been exactly 11 years ago when I first played league, what a time..
I still remember talking and hyping the release of Agri with friends, lmao
Zac and Diana have both been reworked two times.
@@CausticTitan only mini-reworks. Diana is literally the same except R became a new ultimate. Zac was eventually reverted to release.
@@Kepitano zac q is different after all reworks - his old old Q was a skillshot that had two parallel hitboxes (kind of like one thick one) that his arms stretched onto and slowed on hit, that's all it did, diana E was moved to R and then added the explosion at the end, while had R was moved to her E
Just being a bit pedantic. :)
im still getting used to the new caster minion animation
Not gonna lie, I really miss the twisted treeline 3v3. I enjoyed a lot the map and the gameplay, wich was way different than the regular 5v5. Also, I had a group of friends and we were often 6 people together, so we played 3v3 customs games, man what a joy.
Some of my funniest moments with league was on twisted treeline with my friends
On pros not being as popular anymore- I believe it's because as you allude to, streamers WERE pros back then. It was largely the same thing for a while. Over time casual solo queue streamers got more popular and people started to care about them instead. These days, pro play and solo queue are very separate entities. It didnt feel like that back then.
yeah, it doesn't help either that back then pros were the best of the best, now days they dont even play soloq since the get dunked on my random diamond players.
@@Kurto. Yeah. I think the skillset has separated now. As you say they were the best at solo queue back then. Now they arent, or just don't care as much. It's like pro is a different game to solo queue now.
@@smackheadsgyro i feel like it was kind of inevitable for this to happen. both soloq and pro players are playing and improving to be the best they can be, and to get to the top on soloq requires individual play, whereas pro play is all team play. its only natural as players approach the pinnacle of this that top soloq players wouldn't be the greatest team players for a pro team and top pros not the greatest individual players for soloq
In the west maybe. Theyre even more popular now in the east.
Funny thing about league in tv. In Poland it is actually broadcasted on polish channel Polsat Games and it started in 2018. We have official polish league championship called Ultraliga thanks to that. Maybe its not a highest level that we see at LCS but we have it.
Never knew the Ultraliga was being broadcasted on live TV. Seems quite cool tbh
Edit: For one moment I imagined the EMEA Masters being broadcasted on TV like a sort of Eurocup, it would be awesome
In latinamerica ESPN 3 does Broadcast LoL (and many others eSports)
This is so cool to see what’s changed from 10 years ago, but it’s sort of sad to see how game modes and teams have been lost over the years.
Can't believe people thought there was going to be more maps 💀 (I'm people)
This needs to be required viewing for all Devs at Riot Games. This is a treasure trove of honesty and desire of what the players want and how the community made the game so good. A thought: Tribunal and Summoner Showcase coming back.
You really think developers would take inspiration from their competitors?
Just look at all the drama with developers harassing the people behind Baldur's Gate 3 and their massive success.
Laughable that developers working in the same field can try and make fun or point out how "bad" some elements to a game is whilst the company they work for are a bunch of jokers who doesn't know what a "good game" is.
@@ZeroiusProductionwhat competitors are you talking about? The comments is talking about listening to the community. Is the community the competition?
@@ZeroiusProduction what are you on about?
@@ZeroiusProduction you can't compare Baldur's Gate 3 to League
@@VENGENCE150 Then lemme rephrase.
If y'all think Riot actually listens to their community the game woulda been in a better state then it is, people would get punished by all their in game action far worse then it is atm.
When you can troll a game, go afk and not get punished and harass people for weeks and Riot decides to not intervene and not straight up permanently ban them? that's an issue in itself.
I think League today is not in as bad a place as many make it out to be. It's just no surprise with how big the game has gotten that we've lost the magic of the grassroots, and having a game this big you're bound to not make everyone happy. There's a lot of things that Riot does that makes me feel optimistic about my casual love and care for the game, but a lot of other things they do which make me extremely concerned about its future. I guess only time will tell - I'm just terrified of a Blizzard 2.0 situation.
game is poorly balanced because they try to make pro play exciting and all social aspects of league got removed. its bad
It's just that the game lost its original magic, but didn't gain anything, it just remained stale, and nowadays in the online world staying in the same spot and walking backwards are almost synonyms...
nah is bad, is just not balanced at all, can someone tell me how does Hecarim keep escaping nerfs?? and not only him, there is also Kindred,Evelynn,Kha'Zix and many more and this is only on the role I play.. is just disgusting and what do we get? ADC and Support buffs and nothing else... very nice
It probably wouldn't be the same but the days when there was public chat rooms was really fun
i hope this hiving ces pit crashes and burns i mean leauge is a decent game by itself just such a shame you have to share it with 9 disgusting animals every game
Massive props to the guy who made the predictions, a very accurate and creative post
actually the meta once changed during s8 , when storm razor appeared and ie was reworked , adcs took a major hit and became useless to the point of having having bruisers and mages coming bot lane from daruis , renek ,vladimir and mordkaiser to ziggs , cass and heimerdinger
never forget the funnel meta
I wish that the AP and bruiser botlanes hadn't been so abandoned, those diferent play styles were pretty fun and unique, although the killing of ADCs was way overboard
the only reason you dont see more Ziggs, Veigar, Heimer, Seraphine, Swain, Karthus, Aurelion, etc bot laners is because players are cowards that are overly obsessed with picking ranged auto attackers in bot lane.
@@geroni211 I hit diamond playing only syndra adc u can do it if u just full mute every noob that has something to say . I love it when my top/jg go 0/11 and blame me for not being able to carry as a the only winning lane cause apparently i'd be able to if i was a "real adc".
@@Siegram999how do you know that if you’re already muted them all? Fk them
Shit i started playing League when i was 10 in 2012. Now im 21 and this video was like a bombardment of nostalgia. Great video!!!
Same started in 2001 i was 10 now im 45 how time flies 😂
wassuuup :D
Same bro 😂
same man I'm turning 21 next October.
I started back in the very end of season 5 when I was 12, now I'm 21 as well. damn :'D I have so much nostalgia whenever I watch old league stuff so I can't even imagine what kind of overwhelming feelings it must create for u guys
3:17 oooo that hurts man. If only we had been able to keep some of those old maps, but oh well.
Holy cow, Zac is 10 years old! I still consider him a newish champion. 2013 was when I started getting into competitive LoL and helped me start my school esports club. This time capsule video sure brings back a lot of memories from that time.
That reminds me I need to try out the 2v2v2v2 mode.
I'm curious to see what LoL will look like in 10 more years (looking forward to that video if LoL is still around)
yes?
Now were going to have a 2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2
Wow. I haven't played league since 2015 and watching this vid rly takes me back ❤ grinding duo que with friends and binging ur road to plat/diamond series were a huge part of my teenage years. Glad to see you're still here :)
playing league after school, watching Gbay and Stonewall and other great guids and gameplays, watching LCS after dinner, and then staying up late to Summoning Insight for the drama and updates from across the different leagues.....all building up to the big regional tournaments and international majors,then watching all the highlight movies and montages of the best moments and the great casting. This is an era i will always miss and will probably never find that feeling again
Oh hell yeah i used to watch stonewall too
Your videos about league back in the day are always my favorite because we both feel so similar about the game. I also just relate to you so hard still from that irelia rework video all those years ago because i too am far too sentimental over these old crusty things we can count the polygons on, and changing what we love is scary.
I still wish i could go back though, i just miss the old style and look of the game, the old feel and lore...its like watching someone you love lose their mind and slowly forget everything that's made you love them.
I still can't believe I've played this game well over 10 years. It's crazy to think about how much not only the game has changed but also me and my life.
Same. I hope someday we will get league classic or something tho. Im tired of the fortnite skins and anime characters
Gbay99 ... we need more content like this from you. You have a gift for taking facts/data and weaving a really compelling story (you've done this numerous times). Here I am sitting through a 20 minute video and I'm wishing it were longer.
I believe Gambig Gaming still existed all the way until Russia invaded Ukraine, which led to the CIS league being terminated
I gotta say it's weird to think of league of legends teams being disbanded as a consequence of war
Also, Schalke sold their LEC spot BECAUSE they got relegated from the Bundesliga and needed the money. It's also weird to think of a league of legends team being disbanded because of the outcome of a football competition
whenever gbay uploads, my week is made
what a great way to start my monday. sick video!
After watching like 3 of your documentaries i ve just noticed you record them outside which is such an original touch
Such an interesting video, well done Gbay!
I LOVED Dominion. I used it as a way to learn a champion I had never played before, in a low stakes PVP setting. Plus the game was generally fun imo
I really hoped arena would be like that but all of the teams were on the same big new map. I wonder if they ever released their queue algorithms/systems because people really did play dominion, ascension, and TT more than anything else, even when queue times were bad (they still are in a lot of ranked divisions and servers.) It's kinda gross that theyd say that nobody played them, and new players might not get to experience the better fruits of someone's creation just because of management changes and cost cutting.
I think the main issue is that it pulled people from regular and ranked games making those queue times worse.
When not enough people are playing the regular mode then you get rid of other modes.
I hardly played the standard map until the others were completely removed.
I don't know why, but the background of this video looks so beautiful, it's like I am watching a HDR promo
Your videos are amazing Gbay. I actually remember seeing these two posts back then when i was browsing the league subreddit several times a day. You made me very nostalgic. Thank you, and all the best!
I love how this video brought me back to your channel after these yearssss
Man I was around when this capsule was made, and quit about 2 years later. What a throwback omg, thank you for this! I remember your name from way back when
This was actually really fun, and almost quite bittersweet. I don't play league anymore, but back in 2013 it was the only game I played, and was obsessed with. Thanks for the wonderful vid ❤
You always know how to hit me in the feels Gbay, I'm happy you bring us back to that old days, remind us that despite all the toxicity, we did all have the time of our lives and met some wonderful people and were part of an awesome community
Cool to see you evolve your content over the years gbay 👍 can’t wait to see more
Gbay I'm so glad you've kept at this. You've always been so fun to listen to, even when my interest in LoL has diminshed a bit!
I started playing League earlier this year right before Aurelian Sol got his big rework so this is very enlightening to see how things were so long ago
Gbay, I've been really digging the vibes of these last few videos. Great content as always!
I have been playing LoL all my life, since 2009. It's always been the same game in my memory, but looking at this old footage is so weird, it looks like something from the 90s. Thank you for the video!
Started December 2013, and while Im not nearly as invested in the game as I used to but I still like it, a look back like this was so cool! Thank you for making this video, really interesting stuff
I was big into LoL in 2013 - Not so much these days. This is extremely interesting. Good stuff!
Same. Moved on around se5. I have good memories about league tbf. I even remember this post (probably commented on it).
It was a different community back then
love the recent videos, keep them coming!!
Also, love the nature backdrop for this style of video :)
Thanks gbay x
hearing evil geniuses name come back up feels so nostalgic to me, my uncle is the one who got me into pc gaming. i used to go to his house now and then and he would set up a second computer where i would play wow and stuff and he would play either wow or quake with his boys. my uncle and his guys where kinda that early pro scene where you either were a pro team like EG or just a good group of friends who couldnt afford to play pro like that since there was no money in it back then. they used to play against EG and stuff I remember.
I've found quite a few random tournament matches in Fox Sports the past few months during the weekend (I'm from Argentina).
That being said, I rarely even turn on my TV.
Giants still exists but they're now in the spanish ERL Superliga.
Great video! You're videos are always very interesting and I wouldn't even have thought of this time capsule
Cool video ! At 14:12 it's actually a funny meme because Jean Dujardin is a french actor and there was a famous video of a french man winning cosplay event (at MSI I believe), not being able to speak english and keep repeating "i'm french" in the interview while being dressed as Renekton.
This bring back so much memories!
The way you describe the pro scene in its earlier days versus now is remarkably close to how I feel. I can't quite put my finger on what's wrong, but it's so hard to feel invested in the players and teams like I used to in the earlier seasons, and it bums me out.
I guess because as gamer we know that the players make the team. I mean teams still have tradition, staffs and orgs back up with their distinctive mottos, banners and names but really the biggest thing that keeps the fan around in traditional sports is the association with places they represent (cities/states), that is their identity while in LoL teams it just doesnt exist
it's because back then it was more personal, the pros were not PR machines, and were not required to have a stoic personality on the stage, Xpeke laughing, joking, even trolling the cast, Cyanide being well Cyanide, Ocelote being kind this bad guy Froggen only knowing how to play Anivia,Demon king who became so dominant teams banned his champions and RIOT nerfed whatever he played pretty much, there were always stories similar to even recently in DOTA 2 we had Liquid who became pretty much cult classic players in one night, the casters there also joke more and keep the relaxed atmosphere where even at the biggest tournament of the year one of their casters goes and trash talks random fans, gives them free stuff and so on. League of Legends pro scene died when they made it corporate. High production value is good and should be something to strive for, but you can't make it feel corporate or you'll lose the magic. That and LoL pro scene has stagnated to same champions every year,same build paths in every game, same bans and so on, you can't innovate. like early on we had sudden Riven mid picks because she "countered" Leblanc and could go toe to toe with Kassadins, Kha'ziks could go mid and go full on assassin and get ahead, Zed was a thing, when has that been a thing in proplay? tanks were actual tanks and not just statsticks that if given chance would run down people all by themselves, we had Twisted fate being picked as a counter to certain strategies and more.. now it's.. the same 3-5 champions in every role every single game.
@@quanleanh6548 TBH I'd say it's because of the focus on players instead of teams. I mean, it wasn't all that uncommon for players to change teams and/or regions between seasons, and there's nothing for a player to get attached to. When the team comps can just be shuffled around, the teams themselves are limited to only like 7 in each region at most, and how obvious that each team was just a money grab by an organization who wasn't emotionally invested in the scene, it's pretty easy to see why people just slid off of having 'their' team.
We see the player shuffling happen all the time in more physical teams but people still get attached to 'their' teams, even if they don't live anywhere close to where they're based off of.
Fun fact! Giants still plays in the Spanish ERL, and are also one of the better teams in EMEA Valorant!
Gbay i remember this thread! Talk about a blast from the past! Thanks for the video!
2:15 I think the most wild bit of that info is the timing of champion releases in the old days vs now.
The first two or three years of league they released a new champion almost every 2 weeks but in the past 10 years they've released ~52 total.
If there's something about Gbay it's that strange melancholy he always seems to acknowledge even if through nostalgia glasses. It's an awfully strange feeling I get as I keep on getting older. I was 16 when LoL was new and now that it's been a decade, at the age of 26, I'm finding something awfully nostalgic about league of legends in general. I think Gbay would get what I'm trying to say
This was a really cool video. It´s interesting to see how the community was back in the day and how people thought the game would be today. Thank you for this
Ty for this amazing travel back in time! I started playing LoL when Zac was released which is crazy to see that this dude is already that old. I think that those predictions were pretty spot on.
Great video, Gbay. It’s fun reminiscing bout the old days of league :)
I would love to hear you talk about conference realignment. I've been listening to so much talk about it
Hey Gbay99........ I just want to say thankyou for making this type of content. I know its been a rough road with League but every time, you deliver. Thanks man.
Love you Gbay! CZcams has been a lot brighter since there's been more of your content! I also really liked the podcast you did with Thorin I hope you do more of them in the future!
This video is a fantastic idea! I’m a huge fan of your documentary style vids but honestly all of your content is very entertaining!
New Gbay, let's go~
I started playing League in 2013, right after Lucian released, iirc. I got into it because of the Dunkey videos back then, had tons of fun with my friends buying each other mystery skins and just playing whatever the hell we felt like. Damn, I miss those days.
This was really cool Gbay, one of the most original league vids i've seen in a while. Thank you for taking me back :)
What a refreshing video! Felt both nostalgic AND hopeful.
Another banger, gg gbay
That Schalke pronounication hit differently
Never did i expect to hear the Bundesliga be mentioned on this channel haha. Much respect, Gbay!
@@davidcouto1697 My friend, were you not here when he did his football manager spell taking over Kaiserslautern? What a fun little series.
Yeah the Gabaslibia definitely hit different back in the day 😅
Timestamp?
@@RawBerserker nah, had no clue. I'll definitely have to check it out then. Preciate the insight
Great video as always. I kinda miss those early days. It was a simpler time and back then and i had waay more friends to play with.
gbay is back!! finally!!
I remember reading this post when it came out holy shit it's been 10 years?
No it was me.
I absolutely love the setting you chose to film in.
I loved this video!!! It reminded me why I love working in this space and how humble the beginnings were. There are plenty of things that have grown since then but I also think there's so much we can take from those grassroots days to improve the current state of the community.
It's crazy to me that I remember them making these time capsules 10 years ago. I've long since moved on from LoL but this was a nostalgia blast for sure.
The new items and whatnot back in 2018 (or whenever I quit) was what drove me away. Too many new items, new broken mechanics, and complete reworks (essentially champion deletions). And Ninja Tabis got renamed! 😢
@@saturnalia91 I still play today and absolutely still call the armor boots ninja tabis, the new "rocket" belt protobelt and the new gauntlet frostfire. I refuse to give in
@@Law-_ I hopped on recently and my entire team went “wtf is a pink ward???” Immediately made me feel old af lmao. Guess people actually call them red/control wards now
@@Law-_ I might recall this incorrectly, but wasn't Iceborn Gauntlet the original name before it was replaced by Frostfire Gauntlet?
i would have predicted 90% of the community would have been imprisoned
this was awesome, thanks gbay
thanks so much for making this video
I miss Dominion.... And 3v3. Riot has made both good and bad changes (e.g. Item sets, 1 ban per person,...) but also some bad. I miss the days when legacy skins were GONE and not obtainable through a hextech chest. And the days were the OG teams were still around. I miss CLG T_T
I think if Riot would be focusing more on Casual play. Meaning redo Rune System and Item System making the Map more immersive it would get a huge boost in Player numbers
Thing is, MOBAs and League itself are old news and once you start spiraling downwards it's hard, almost impossible to grow back into a juggernaut as there will always be other games that will be more updated, polished and well new. Next time we get something new and exciting in MOBA market, it will most likely either be DOTA 3, LoL2, or something completely new that plays very different to League or Dota like Heroes of the storm tried to but ultimately failed due to Blizzards incompetence. While we wait on the next MOBA to revitalize the genre the games will drop off, players will go to greener pastures and that is normal. As i said, other games will come, things better or differently and innovate, but if you try to innovate on your existing IP you run the risk always of alienating your core player base (kind of like League has done for quite awhile) and while alienating your audience you might not grasp new players attention because the game is indeed 10+ years old, new players will feel they are too late, that they missed the train so to speak. Similar thing happens in fighting games al the time, kind of why they make new ones and not just DLCs for the older games, because older games at some point wont see any rise in player base and their players will get older, stop playing or want to play other stuff, but by making new games they keep it "fresh" and they can innovate on gameplay, make changes and more without making their core audience feel like they have no game to return to.
@@FaceFish9 Sadly Riot declared that it is to much work to reprogram League on a new Code. So only hope might be a Dota3 but it had to be easier to play and get in since the difficulty is a threshold why it doesn't has an even bigger Comunity than League
@@einfachdaniel3659 Funnily i don't think it's the "difficulty" that is the problem, it's just that Valve never really helped with learning it, things like warding, high ground, low ground, night/day cycles, pulling camps at certain times to stack them up for your carry, or pulling a wave of minions into the jungle to kill a camp and get killed so the enemy wont get exp, denying minions/towers gold by last hitting your own, are all things that should be taught by the game (atleast they should have a proper tutorial for them)
That and the fact that League simply came first into the media which just meant it took all the old Dota players who were not sure if they liked Dota 2 from it back in the day and it grew up, sure it being more casual friendly helps, but Dota 2 as a game is much better for the difficulty, and to those who watch the games Dota 2 has much more to offer if you know what the pros are doing. Sadly both games are in the gutter cause of different things.
Dota having a identity crisis of a meta for months/years now and Valve not updating it nearly as fast as they should and League meta stagnating from season 3 onwards and the community welcoming it, so now if Riot even tries to touch lets say a role like ADC to make them more self sufficient but less pain in the ass in the late game community cries immediately. if tanks are playable in the meta, guessed it, "tank meta op boohoo", oh supports can actually do something other than hope for their team to not have brain rot? must be a bad game... It's not that the game itself is horrible or the current "mythic item" idea is horrible for new players but if you've played even for a year, you know it gets boring. And thats the state League is now... people are just simply too addicted to it admit it.
6:20 i think it's interesting that while i havent seen league on TV here in australia (not much of a tv watcher so if they have i wouldnt know) the finals for either OPL or for Worlds was broadcasted at several cinemas around my state at one point. really blew my mind that my local Hoyts was showing league on the bigscreen lmao
awesome. I remember viewing that post and thinking how funny it was back then but I'm so happy to come back to it today
I want to add that I sometimes get champ ideas in my head and ages ago I was thinking if they'd add a champ who has a ton of ad but in result sacrifices ad. Years later they added arguably one of the best designed adcs, Jhin.
I've definitely predicted some other champ properties as well but can't name any rn. Not saying I take a lot of credit for it tho, these ideas are pretty vague
Sacrifices AS***
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I had the same thought about Singed not fulfulling the "my weapon is a shield" archtype and how while he's tanky, he doesn't tank for the team. Give or take half to a full month later Braum appeared.
I'm pretty sure I even posted a "I called it post" in the now non-existing League of Legends Forums
I still find saying "no one played 3v3 or Dominion" as Riot's reason for removing as a massive gut punch from Riot.
The reason neither were played as much as the actual main mode of the game is because they weren't giving either the forementioned modes any actual attention, and by the time one guy did (which is when we saw balance changes for Dominion), it was already too late. As for 3v3, no one, and I mean, NO ONE, liked the new map for it, it was way too small, even for 3v3.
Yea its so sad, I was a core dominion player and for the few of us, they could've just left the mode available without doing a thing and we still would've played it everyday. We even had our own honor code where we don't pick certain op champs or your own teammates flame you for it. I guess now I understand how the 5 aurelion sol enjoyers feel.
Yeah, 100% this. Not to mention, both modes had around 5% of the players playing them at the time of their deletion which is a small number but is significant when you consider the popularity of LoL at the time of deletion. Considering they already weren't supporting those modes, it has always struck me as odd to remove them and alienate hundreds of thousands of players for no reason. I bet you in the current state of the game with declining interest and players, Riot probably wishes they didn't Thanos snap 10% of what they had at their peak.
Dominion getting trashed was really depressing and frustrating LMAO.
Especially after the Dominions community held an event where they had Dominions players go against Summoner's Rift players and at the same approximate elo, Dominions players outperformed SR players in both maps. LMAOOOO
The Dominions community was also really nice
Dude I remember watching you years ago when I used to play league, glad to see you making unique content like this
I wonder how many members of Gambit gaming are in Ukraine now.
I think the game shrinking in size on viewership across the board is proof enough that the game was more fun back then since the devs were listening more and once they stopped listening to the community and started thinking about esports ONLY there was an avalanche of bad choices that made the game substantially less fun
I could see why esports would be lucrative, but i dont see why they avoided the inherent problem of basing their game around it.
The only thing more stale than playing a boring game is watching someone play one, no matter how captivating the commentary or gameplay is. The short bursts of action can be so decisive and clustered that theyre really all there is to the game apart from farming, warding, and holding your own. The less the product has to do with your enjoyment, or your defying the odds, or your development of expertise, the less likely it is that people will feel personally captivated enough to spend money on the free product. It seems more tied into distant, egotistical personalities, community moderation a la stepping on heads to keep people from stepping on toes, and third-party companies with their own gains in mind, than it is to what usually gets people to appreciate a game as a sport. It's a common folly amongst developers and companies today, but perhaps it's the only profit in sight when things are economically belly-up.
A bigger problem is the balance around pro play which would be fine except they don’t allow voice communication. That means sre are playing a game balanced around voice communication with no ability to do it
"across the board" ok buddy
Wow, I remember this reddit post. It's crazy just how close to reality it was.
Great video, Gbay! Glad to see activity from you in the lol community once again, was always a fan of your old content.
This is a great retrospective. League is here to stay, even if it's not as popular as it once was. I look forward to watching another one of these videos in another decade. I'm having a nostalgia overload, and it's bittersweet.
It was me who predicted it.
cool story bro, tell it again
another great video thanks gbay
Another banger, thanks for the nostalgia boost Gbay
Loved the video! It is nice to go back down the memory lane.
Wow, I remember reading this exact post back then. Can't believe it's been 10 years already. Thanks Gbay
Another gbay video, another like from me.
Thanks for the content and the creative approach to this video
Oh, GBay...Having stopped playing LoL 3 years ago, I stopped seeing your videos pop up, so this makes me very happy to see sneak in.
Bro I love ur story telling so much it is amazing u truly inspire me
You make my absolute favorite content on CZcams. Keep up the good work man ❤
I remember this post! Replay system also became a meme due to being delayed for so long. My favorite team back then was EG (formerly CLG.EU) mainly for Froggen Anivia. I miss Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar, and I totally forgot how great Joe Miller+Deman commentary was.
keep up the content bro. You are very entertaining
I hate watching videos over 5-10 minutes, but your videos are exception. I've watched Khan and forgot the other one, and this one. I wasn't disappointed at all. I came here to thank you for your precious time, that you took away from your life to make us happy and satisfied. Good job and keep it up! Thanks :) ♥
Keep doing you Gbay, it's workin.