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The Last Unsolved Problem of Climbing Ropes
Why is Cut Resistance of Climbing Ropes still an unsolved problem?
Science, Testing Methods and upcoming new technologies.
New Mammut Core Protect Ropes:
www.mammut.com/int/en/products/2010-04600
www.mammut.com/int/en/products/2010-04590
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00:00 Intro
02:00 History
05:05 Kernmantle Technology
07:54 Cutting the Rope under different Tensions
10:58 Dyneema / Aramid in Ropes
12:51 Testing Methods
16:01 Study on Microscopic Cut Patterns
18:06 Granite Edge Test
28:31 Belaying affect on Cut Resistance
32:31 Sharp Carabiner Test
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References:
Cut resistance of climbing ropes - A comparative analysis of existing measurement methods and a simulated accident - www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1350630723008609
Michele Caminati's rope shears as he falls off Elder Statesman (HXS 7a) @teamBMCTV - czcams.com/video/K9Wzx-9JzsI/video.html
Old Climbing footage from Movie: "Encordades" - catalanfilms.cat/ca/produccions/encordades
Making Nylon @ Carleton University - czcams.com/video/b70Uirik82I/video.html
Glacier Training footage from @walterrossini - czcams.com/video/TkMDUGqiB4A/video.html
Cut Resistance of Ropes: Part 2 | EDELRID Knowledge Base by @edelrid - czcams.com/video/IL2r_f2g4Sw/video.html
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Camera & Assistance:
Jakub Novák, Marcos Torroba, Samuel Tuor
Animations:
Marcos Torroba, Ben
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Komentáře

  • @z1522
    @z1522 Před 12 hodinami

    Excellent thorough video, with only the dyslexic mispronunciation of "Eder-lid" repeated, for viewer amusement. Know a climber who survived very near severing of a rope, in a barely factor 1 penduluming fall across a rough granite bulge, where he was left hanging from just two of the core bundles. No acute edges, just rock texture under the loaded rope, shredded the sheath and nearly all the core. Sliding the rope along any rough grit under tension is a recipe for disaster; double rope techniques might provide more insurance, where the second rope doesn't get the initial wear, and could be weighted in a different section of the climb where the abrasion isn't a factor. Awareness of how and when such rapid abrasion can occur ultimately is the most critical factor. It is easy to imagine edge situations like the tests here, where climbers are just not thinking about such potential for rope failure, especially in trad cragging and alpine settings. Placing protection with an eye to keeping a running rope away from such edges could be as important as just placing solid gear, if not more so. Taking a clear 30-foot fall might be far safer than a 10 foot fall over an edge.

  • @danilom3166
    @danilom3166 Před 12 hodinami

    26:32 Brains in action! What an amazing video! Go Mammut!

  • @kevinwelsh7490
    @kevinwelsh7490 Před 13 hodinami

    1964 - 2024 is 60 years not 80! I was born in 1964

  • @kevinwelsh7490
    @kevinwelsh7490 Před 13 hodinami

    did that guy survive the fall?????

  • @fucksusan420
    @fucksusan420 Před 14 hodinami

    100% wouldnt be buying that garbage anymore

  • @wienerwoods
    @wienerwoods Před 14 hodinami

    I'm no expert, but I belonged to a climbing gym for a while. I seem to remember that the #1 rule is that you NEVER let go of the tail end of the rope on-belay. Never. You don't allow any slack in it either, and you hold it in such a manner that you can immediatly lock your belay device using downward pressure. Am I missing something here? Are there climbers who think Grigris are fool-proof hands free belay devices? Are they marketed as such? If so, that's terrifying

  • @davidpintaric5014
    @davidpintaric5014 Před 16 hodinami

    What about falling on slabs? Also isn't it batter to belay this way to produce soft catches? Have a little (max 1 arm) of slack + jump (right timing) and at the same time tube slide

  • @andycloquet
    @andycloquet Před 17 hodinami

    Is some of the energy in cutting over an edge in part due to pressure/heat building up on the fabric as it rubs the edge?

  • @zumlog
    @zumlog Před 21 hodinou

    A month ago I almost died in a 6 meter fall. My partner panicked. He pressed the gri gri with both hands. I basically lost one finger and the strength in my hand. Im done climbing... choose your climbing partner carefully.

  • @thomasbahr2806
    @thomasbahr2806 Před dnem

    The Mammut core protect rope is just a great innovation. So it deserves the name "Eierlegende" because its another step into the direction of getting the full package.

  • @danynaranjo3675
    @danynaranjo3675 Před dnem

    My shool did went to a climbing center and it was sooooo fuuuunnnn. Even if I did not have a experience partner

  • @roqclimber
    @roqclimber Před dnem

    I remember a lot of guys were climbing on Goldline back in 69/70. My first rope was a Perlon kernmantle rope in 1970.

  • @thecarbondatingshow

    "Slackrope"

  • @Tubluer
    @Tubluer Před dnem

    It's pretty obvious it should be called Ropey McRopeface.

  • @jtwp1770
    @jtwp1770 Před dnem

    this thing .. u mean a hacksaw ...

  • @TremereTT
    @TremereTT Před dnem

    the segway to the sponsor was so smoooth

  • @Boankofa
    @Boankofa Před dnem

    God that girl is horrible

  • @PvtChuff
    @PvtChuff Před dnem

    rope meets another rope. 'are you a rope?' he asks. other rope says ' no, i am afraid knot' .

  • @qwerty277
    @qwerty277 Před dnem

    Steve, the safety snake. Larry, the load lizard. Evan, the elevator. Industrial access.

  • @TheMagnificco
    @TheMagnificco Před 2 dny

    The BEND KNEE method also works when NOT SEEING the climber for me, because I instinctively/automatically go for a jump when a sudden drag on the rope occurs. I guess this should be the case for most climbers.

  • @avoirdupois1
    @avoirdupois1 Před 2 dny

    This was scary and also reassuring. Thanks for the great deep dive into abrasion resistance and rope dynamics!

  • @user-cz8cc2lz6u
    @user-cz8cc2lz6u Před 2 dny

    Thank you for your exceptionally comprehensive and professional work Ben, please keep it up!

  • @TiagoTiagoT
    @TiagoTiagoT Před 2 dny

    What if the inner sheath was braided with nitinol wire?

  • @TiagoTiagoT
    @TiagoTiagoT Před 2 dny

    Wrapping it in a material similar to what's used in lightweight stab-proof vests won't help?

  • @yyams
    @yyams Před 2 dny

    Ropey McRopeface.

  • @RobertFord-hx5gt
    @RobertFord-hx5gt Před 2 dny

    So… I lived hanging from a grigri over a decade with zero problems. Maybe stupid people just avoid dangerous sports.

  • @DieegoLpzz
    @DieegoLpzz Před 2 dny

    Idk why watching the rope rub against that edge made me so uncomfortable

  • @BryanSpringborn
    @BryanSpringborn Před 2 dny

    Better to have rope cost more or become unusable, definitely better than dead.

  • @jacobmcvicker9815
    @jacobmcvicker9815 Před 2 dny

    Armie Hammer- cause it’ll whip you and then drop you

  • @Simon_Rafferty
    @Simon_Rafferty Před 2 dny

    Very interesting video (to an Engineer, not a Climber!). Thank you for taking the time to make it.

  • @itsallspent
    @itsallspent Před 2 dny

    I knew nothing about rope other from the Hobbit that every one needs one on a journey. Very informative video .

  • @matthewlueder2656
    @matthewlueder2656 Před 2 dny

    Informative video. The best possible marketing for a rope. I would definitely pay extra for this.

  • @anonymoose1855
    @anonymoose1855 Před 2 dny

    1:39 Did I just watch someone die?

    • @I_Am_Your_Problem
      @I_Am_Your_Problem Před 17 hodinami

      Right... that is the only possible outcome. Clowns think everything is so effing fragile.

  • @antoniomontana4143
    @antoniomontana4143 Před 2 dny

    I would name that rope ‘Ben,’ because it provides a sense of security, much like your videos do! 🌟

  • @sloikalamos
    @sloikalamos Před 2 dny

    Tech-wise, what makes this rope different than Mammut protect? Seems similar

  • @jangrewe
    @jangrewe Před 2 dny

    Unbelieveable that somebody who's day job is designing and working with ropes can't pronounce "sheath" properly.

  • @GerinoMorn
    @GerinoMorn Před 2 dny

    I did think of polyaramide oversized sheath when presented with the problem, though I was thinking about including a (experimentaly found) number of hardened steel wires of short length, in that inner sheath weave, like maybe just a few wires in any given section, of whatever thickness gives best results (if any) vs increased weight and stiffness. I guess using titanium (or more realistically, some sort of advanced alloy) would be lighter. The idea being that the wires do not provide any strain strength, they would be there to be "sacrificial rollers" for the core strains inside - they might be cut in few mm or maybe a 1cm of motion, but that will all add up. Plus maybe even some heat dissipation benefits...

  • @alejandrososa646
    @alejandrososa646 Před 3 dny

    Well, as a Rope Access technician that uses only 11mm, that 10.2mm result really makes me feel a little bit safer for sure! Amazing video, dude!

  • @HeresJonnie
    @HeresJonnie Před 3 dny

    Where can I find the video about catching low lead falls?

  • @matriculatethefootball

    They need a cool name for that rope. Something like "A-Core." When can I buy me some A-core rope?

  • @pittmanfh
    @pittmanfh Před 3 dny

    Anti-gravity clothing could make this exercise obsolete. Imagine that.

  • @monsterlynx2473
    @monsterlynx2473 Před 3 dny

    If you use tazlov for top rope solo your gunna want to put it in the smaller loop it helps with better positioning.

  • @d34db33f
    @d34db33f Před 3 dny

    why not just weave some sort of lightweight metal or aluminum into the threads? shield them with some sort of alloy covering?

  • @kyoshooptima
    @kyoshooptima Před 3 dny

    Rope name " Slinky" because it is strong, stretches and returns. 😁

  • @gabrielalarcon-caine1146

    I call my rope Yosemite Samson - without the braids I would be dead!

  • @gabrielalarcon-caine1146

    I call my rope Yosemite Samson - without the braids I would be dead!

  • @catherinecadieux8066

    I'd be interested about the test on double ropes which are widely used for multipitch in Europe. For example 2xbeal cobra. Will the load division alleviate the problem?

  • @mrfawkes9110
    @mrfawkes9110 Před 3 dny

    Nylon isn't the first synthetic fiber, not even close. Rayon was invented in 1894 and first put into mass production in 1899, acrylonitrile rubber fiber was invented in 1930 and Nylon was invented in 1931. Nylon was however the first to find commercial success.

  • @johnprice4893
    @johnprice4893 Před 3 dny

    what about a steal or a carbon kevlar single strand core? as a back up against the cut scenario?

  • @dc443
    @dc443 Před 3 dny

    I hope it gets answered later in the video somehow but they showed it twice already, the guy in red falling down and his rope getting cut on the rock. Is he dead now? I'm really concerned about him.

    • @dc443
      @dc443 Před 3 dny

      I found him in a google search: I quote: Wild Country sponsored athlete Michele Caminati hit the ground after attempting to repeat Elder Statesman (HXS 7a) at Curbar on Tuesday 28 March 2017. As he fell, the single 10mm rope he was using completely sheared while it viciously scraped down the arete. Michele sustained a broken wrist and broken heel bone in the fall and stayed in hospital to recover from his injuries.