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There is another drum that is (or was) constructed like that - the Slingerland Festival. It was steel and chromed, rolled and welded and riveted. The bearing edge on the Festival was folded over, so double in thickness. The INDe drums are very cool.

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The snare sounds different with each kick too

Great tutorial

Thanks for this video

I wonder if that's an accident that I was 999th who liked your AMAZING video? 😁 Anyway, I can support this whole thought of tuning higher than usual, mainly big(ger) toms and floors ( the smaller too actually ). I have an experience from a big stage where I got to sit behind Eric Singer's kit in 2022 when KISS were here in Budapest ( Hungary ). I checked his entire ( very large ) kit and was SHOCKET by how high EVERYTHING sounded and was actually tuned. Toms + floors were 6",8",10",12",13",14",15",16" and 18". ( 6"-10" and 14" and 15" were concert toms ). I spoke to him next day and told him how surprised I was and his reply was:" yeah, and I want them tuned even higher" 😄 The interesting part is, they did NOT sound any higher in the PA.. My thought of this is he had them tuned so high so that all the lower ones still produce some audible tonality plus it makes the smaller ones stand out even if still not sounding as if from different kit. Now even the 12" and 13" rack toms still sounded pretty 'rock natural' = no unnaturally high pitch spotter. I know this doesn't have anything to do with your micking idea, but I still hope this experience helps to support it.

Btw, the snare also changed in pitch , so it must be some sort of metapsychic influence from shorter bass drum shell :)

Name it “Bernie”🥁🔥

Great video! How do you crank it all the way to 400? I can go as far as 300 and it feels like the head is about to crack lol

I was always thinking about the rods adjacent to the snarebeds. they always have a lower pitch for sure and thats fine

Awesome informative video and your presentation style is very enjoyable. New subscriber!

HELLO JOEL! I have a 1971 Yamaha Stage Birch Blue! I switched out the Ludwigs with 26" open fronts to the 22" Yamaha Bass & all Toms! The 22" Bass is incredibly fast and punchy! 🎶

HELLO JOEL! Superb video, excellent picture quality and sound! Wonderful comparison of the two! I bought my first Ludwig Supraphonic 400 brand new in 1971 from Manny's Music in Manhattan! I still have it and believe it or not I am still using the original snares with the patent number on it! I only had to replace the top rim and the muffler in all those years! REMO Vintage X batter, REMO reso! As far as the low medium and high tuning I really loved the tone of the low tuning however my wrists prefer to play on a highly tuned skin, it just gives me an easier time doing my doubles, paradiddles, quick rolls etc!

Sounds incredible

Awesome sound, Joel. Are you burying the beater or rebounding?

Joel, are you burying the beater or playing off the head?

This is all well and good, but you’ve missed a very key talking point here that trumps all other factors entirely: EVERYONE knows that oysters and pearls are louder than flat black. (Mic drop)

Been thinking of making a P3 just by cutting a worn out bass drum batter and actually mounting two heads instead of one for that effect . I am also one that likes to poke holes in the top part of my bass drum batter mainly at 11 and 1 o'clock seems to effect the dig on my beater on my 24" kick

Thanks for the snare side head 400Hz tip! This is going to help me be more consistent in tuning.

I've been saying this for years, the same idea applies to live drumming when you want your toms to sound louder than your cymbals tuning them higher goes a long way. The same idea applies to a closed-head kick drum

your imitation of a tom at the end is basically what you hear in a sound check 😂

Thank you this is super educational! I learned a lot especially considering shortening my 2006 Pearl Export drum set- from 22X18 to 14" so thanks! BTW do you think this has the same effect with all wood types?

Fantastic video as always! I just purchased an 8x14 Mapex pre-Orion line snare from the 80s with what looks to be an extended snare bed. I’ve never used one and I’ve been intimidated but this was extremely helpful. Thanks brother!

This 👏 is 👏FIRE👏 Drum truth team!!!!!!!!!!

I was curious about history of plastic! czcams.com/video/9GMbRG9CZJw/video.html interesting! .. great content as usual!

Great video! Thank you! Greetings from Norway.

I like the way you use to teach tips and tricks about drums ! i suscribe right now to your chanel great job dude thank you so much (y)

I am enjoying every second of this channel. Pretty cool stuff 😎👌🏽

I find you get more usable frequencies out of the 14" depth bass drum compared to the 18" depth. I had my 18" star classic birch cut to 14.5" ( extra .5 just to be slightly different which I decided to do on the way down to a drum shop). When I got it back and played it, it was very commanding and more punchy right off the bat............ no regrets having it done!

Dude tar very much for taking the time to explain every aspect on setting up a snare drum right down to tweeking the snare wires

Oh also...What mic is that that you are using?

Unbeatable snare drum except maybe the Super Supra 6.5 with nickel hardware . I have both of these . I also really like my 15x 5 Black Galaxy a whole lot too.

thanks man! awesome video and I appreciate the way it's laid out. I'm a producer, not a drummer. So I bought a set purely to learn how to tune them and this video is very down my alley. instead of "Do this or that" you actually just show how different things manipulate the sound of a snare and what adjustments to make to get a sound. extremely helpful for learning what to listen for in a snare.

Well done

I might be cutting down my bass drum!

00:26. You got me

I have a 24" Ludwig bass drum with 4 spurs

I just bought a mint condition 1978 Premier Elite kit with a 22X14 kick. For the life of me I just cannot get a deep, beefy sound out of it. It’s in round and the edges are good. No matter how low I tune both heads, the drum just doesn’t have much balls. Toms sound great, though. But the bass drum is bumming me out.

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I see what you did on the namedrop there....

The 14" sounded more like I want it after mixing. But it's quite isolated. Would the less bottom end be a missing in a whole mix situation?

Sounds much better

Really great info. Adding the snare mic seems a game changer . Just to have a bit more control of the snare sound / volume.

So if shell is not vibrating, the energy from the head is not dissipated. Material of the shell only affects the sound in term of density and mass -> thin metal drum and thick wood having same mass produce same sound. Whether it is welded metal shell, spun or cast; solid wood, or plies, or block does not matter?

excellent video. Noticeable difference, 14" sounds more full/deeper

I am a long time fan of INDe drums. I currently own an Aluminum shell Wayfarer kit and a 6.5” Aluminum snare that matches beautifully with the kit. The bass, rack and floor Tom of the Wayfarer aluminum weighs less than 25 lbs total ! It sounds magnificent too

I’ve always preferred the 14” depth and you’ve surely proved it here. 👍