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I've been thinking about this for a bit. Giant Flies are actually a little creepy so I was thinking maybe crows or something like that. After a while looking around I'm currently thinking I'll go with these very very cheap toy flies. www.amazon.co.uk/Plastic-Simulation-Realistic-Halloween-Outdoor/dp/B0BRPSRMYF they're still flies but as toy flies they're not too creepy. If I wanted I could stick them on bases with paper clips to hold them up and decide if I want to paint them or not.

@@optimalgamestate haha great idea, I think I might actually have some in my old childhood things... Beats £7 for 4 official flies. I was thinking about bats but they already have representation in the game.

There's also a non-zero chance we might see an update to the Skaven rules for the new Skaventide box. As far as I'm aware there's nothing new in there (just new models) so they don't have to, but usually new Warcry rules is a good way to encourage sales, so there's alway hope!

Very interesting, I've only recently ended up deep reading the Aliens RPG books from Free League Publishing, so I'm definitely on a Bug Hunt vibe.

@@optimalgamestate I've only skim read Bug Hunt so far, but it appears to work in a similar way to Five Parsecs. The 'crew creation' and advancement / equipping appears to have been trimmed back, but the AI for the enemy has been expanded. So instead of your crew of 6-ish oddballs fighting a similar number of oddballs, your group of 3 officers lead an ever-changing selection of squads against masses of aliens. It looks to me like you average 7-15 people under your command, but of those, only 3 are 'PCs' that develop game-to-game. The rest are NPC squaddies or specialists that get swapped out each time you play.

100% It does make sense to buy into the new edition if everyone you play with is moving to it, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a better game. My current AoS goal is to finish up my Slaves to Darkness army and for my Brother to finish up his Stormcast army. Playing the out of the box written rules that we already have, so 3rd edition, will work fine for a fun game.

I've seen Rogue Warriors appearing on amazon a few times. Have you had a chance to play it or at least read through the rules? any idea what it's like? Right now the other skirmish game that has my attention is BLKOUT but no distributors outside of the US yet which limits the fun.

Lee, from Tabletop Skirmish Games channel has a number of how to play videos up. The game is pretty simple and focuses on a narrative approach to game play. In addition to the basic rules, there’s campaign modules available. Strangely, the biggest problem I have with the game is the terrain. I’m not an historical gamer, so all the terrain I have is either sci-fi or fantasy themed. To really get the most out of the experience it would help to have terrain pieces appropriate for the WWII, or Vietnam eras. Or maybe Afghanistan/Iraq. A big part of the game involves selecting and equipping you team. Movement is probably the most critical element. Shooting is not super deadly because the game is supposed to feel more like a cinematic combat than a real simulation. Melee combat, on the other hand, is fairly brutal. There’s no option to disengage so every contest is to the death.

It's a weird one, I've heard the rumour about Underworlds getting dropped for a few years now, often from people I'd usually trust. I do quite like the Rivals deck change they made, but you're right the key part of Underworlds is the amazing line of models they've been producing. I suspect at least parts of the model line are selling well so the game is a 'success' even if attendance at tournaments isn't great for GWs 'ultimate competitive game'. It's a perfect example for what I'm talking about in this video, if you have a few Underworlds warbands you like, get them all together in a box with their decks prebuilt and you'll have a great ready to play no matter what GW might do in the future.

@@optimalgamestate exactly what I have sitting on my shelf at home. My favorites of the past few years just for game nights etc packed away as it's own little competitive meta

That's a very narrow definition of Cancelled you are working with there. TV shows get cancelled all the time, it doesn't mean they were never made. It's a perfectly normal term for the expected ongoing support of a product or offering to be stopped.

Hey friend. I'm delighted to hear you're still loving Imperial Assault. Hopefully you got far enough into the video to see me showing off my own collection and where I talked about how the game was still being produced but didn't have new product. In relation to the use of 'cancelled', I do feel the usage of cancelled in this context is appropriate. FFG stopped development of the game, but kept it in production. I appreciate that the term 'cancelled' has got caught up in the 'culture wars' , but that's not this channel. I would suggest giving a quick google search for any of the games I talk about in this video and 'cancelled', you'll find lots of people using that same phrasing. That said, since you did go to the effort of posting it's obviously something you feel strongly about. So I've updated the cover and title to use 'discontinued' instead of 'cancelled' (the animated intro remains as it would require a re-upload). I hope you have a great day and keep playing Imperial Assault!

@@gernorton7166 Yeah, I've never heard anyone call it anything else. 😅

@@optimalgamestate Fair enough. I understand other people use the term, and that's precicely my point. It has nothing to do with imperial assault, I just took it as an example, I just think this kind of thumbnail is very misleading, is all. I thought it was about lost games that never existe, prototypes, or something I appreciate the change, and sorry if I came out as aggressive, it wasn't the intent. I'm just tiresome to see so many "GAME IS DEAD" "OH STAR WARS ARMADA IS NOW CANCELLED" "OH, X-WING IS DONE FOR, NO ONE IS GOING TO PLAY IT EVER AGAIN", and stuff like that Just like the Warcry drama when "WARCRY IS OVER because they DELETED the original bespoke 1.0 warbands from AOS 4" and stuff like that.

For a game to continue being played it needs to either have a ton of replayability or organized play support. Kill organized play, you will lose the vast majority of the player-base. If you have a set box and that's it or limited expansions like LCGs it's basically impossible to have prize support. People don't want to admit any of this but you rarely see weekly meetups for card games that are no longer in production. You may see a small tournament at a big tabletop convention or some tabletop sim play but that's likely it.

It seems like it would, but it's hard to know as they haven't released the 'compendium' warscrolls yet. At some point in the new few weeks GW will release a free pdf online which will have rules for all the units across all the factions. These will stay legal until that army gets a new battletome which for the Stormcast is likely to be soon.

I think that Brood Terror was a leak, so hopefully they actually have a proper release with more units like the Nightrunners, Stormvermin, and Plague Monks. It would be criminal if the Skaven refresh after all this time only was the models in this box!

Oh that's a good point. I had missed it, but today's videos do show that the spearhead rules only have 4 warscrolls for each army so there are lots of extra models. I guess this does mean if you ONLY wanted to play spearhead then there is some extra cost / potential resale.

2. might be a little bit harsh, plenty of people enjoy AoS as their primary wargame and seem to be having a good time. 3rd edition was generally considered pretty good and well balanced, certainly when compared to 40k.

@@optimalgamestate oh most definitely, 40k is likely even worse. In my experience, people enjoying it just have never played anything else, like people still playing Monopoly while every single other boardgame being better, or have spent such an insane amount of money on the crazy overpriced stuff that they just have to like it now. But sure, people can enjoy whatever they like.

Na AOS is a very good game and much more inovativ and respectfull than 40K. Thumb down.

@@Nicolas-yd2mw 40k is absolute shite too, you're absolutely right you that regard. The worst thing to compare a game to. They're both godawful and trumped by absolutely every other game on the market without real exceptions. But you do you. Everyone likes something terrible.

It's the Elven Woods kit from Archon Studios archon-studio.com/shop/products/dungeons-lasers/the-elven-woods it's a Polish company that's been doing some great stuff for D&D that works great for Warcry. They also do the Kazumi temple which is arguably one of the best starting terrain kits for Warcry archon-studio.com/shop/products/rampart/kazumi-temple

@@optimalgamestate That's awesome! Thank you!

What I've been doing is making a card for for the additional weapons by themselves. So ill note the operative has in the abilities and for the extra weapon card I'll enable the Weapon One option maybe moving it around a bit as needed.

If I may... Everyone knows you go 3rd party, unless something is unavailable, but discounts and numbers are region/shop dependent, so it makes sense to refer to RRP in CZcams videos/discussion. I also have to disagree on the 'expense' aspect - the prices in the 'modern era' are astronomical, relative to when I, for example, bought the original adeptus titanicus, Man O' War, Ork & Squat Warlords, Blood Bowl, etc with my pocket money, while at primary school. I also had a spell back in 6th/7th and had no qualms forking out for Battleforces and Combat Patrols, which today, would be on par with the 'much lauded', recently de-availablised GSC box (yes, the situation is worth inventing a word for). Until production volumes increase, they seem content knowing that, of all the wider audience now interested in the products, there will always be (at least) just enough who can afford to pay a chunk more, before folding, to sell the limited supply available and keep investors happy.

Keep those lists fluffy and fun until you need to break out the big guns at a competitive event. Forewarned is forearmed!

How so? What are the advantages of 5 parsecs?

@@optimalgamestate totally agnostic at any scale, built to be entirely solo, but can include others. Focuses on narrative story, each crew member is unique. Buy in is very low, and ruleset is unlikely to be swapped or pulled.

Interesting! I'll check it out, thanks 😄

You absolutely cannot infiltrate anything into buildings that are not 100% inside your deployment zone. So no, you can’t do this in the middle of your board.

Might not be able to deploy them in the structure but as long as you deploy them in base contact with a building at the end of the first turn they can garrison it at the end of their movement phase activation

You're right about the objective and treasure missions being a bit tricky. In the Frostgrave / Stargrave systems Joseph A McCullough uses a 'target point ' for some missions. So if an enemy fighter isn't able to immediately attack a player fighter, then they move towards the 'target point'. For objective missions we could make the objectives points of interest, then add a clause that they won't leave an objective, and that they'll only move towards objectives the AI doesn't already control. You could do similar with Treasure but add the clause that when carrying treasure they will move away from the player fighters. One way or another, it's gonna be pretty dumb XD a good play will have clever plays that we can't really predict with a generic AI. We can adjust for this by giving the AI more points (like I've done with Vermintide). As for future plans, more immediately I do want to get a second Vermintide mission out, but that probably won't get a video. I do have the Ulfenkarn (Cursed City) campaign for Warcry which I've started writing up (there's a Patreon post for it) but I haven't fully developed out yet. I would like that to have AI driven scenarios with the Cursed city villians in set battles. That could be fun. This week I'm probably just going to do the monthly review and work out what to do next!

Yeah it's a weird one. I ended up making it an exception as I wanted the movement and range rounding to be relatively consistent.

You gotta share if you do this. I really like messing around with hex games (UW, Fireteam, Bladeborne, etc) and have always thought to get Heroscape pieces but never pulled the trigger.

@@shorelessskies Honestly, dont. The reason being is that the old heroscape tiles are beginning to deteriorate, and those that tell you that they aren't, are trying to sell you their tiles that are rotting. This isnt even remotely hyperbole. They have become brittle, and even with kid gloves handling tiles are now beginning to shatter. So if you buy heroscape tiles, but the new stuff coming out soon so they will at least last two more decades. Because the old stuff is literally falling apart, and is effectively worthless with this countdown to their imminent self destruction.