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I am most comfortable with the head-on break because that’s how I play 8-ball, and your logic is my point exactly, though Idk how often I pot the 1 ball from head on 🤷🏻‍♂️😅

Awesome! Good luck!! Thanks for the feedback! If you see me, holler! 🤙🏼

😂😂😂😂 I BARELY squeaked this out!

Awesome! Yes, this is very true 😬

Re-watching this, my 9-ball game is so incredibly weak… I should’ve been able to beat a constant Montgomery scenario before it got this far out of hand but 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

We played fairly tight through 8-ball, smooth sailing…. By game 10, the train had de-railed, and was tumbling down the cliffside …….. Thanks for watching!!

@@drewvonporte it was definitely good entertainment. Thanks

This is so very true 💎💎💎 Don’t overthink it 🧠🧠🧠

Do you?……………… Do you “gotta” love it?……………….. 🫠

^ this is good information dude. Not something I was thinking about during that shot!!

Lol if the watcher leaves without saying anything…… you grabbed the wrong guy to watch it!!!! 😂😂😂😂

@@drewvonporte Absolutely. I would have serious trust issues if the person watching says "it was close" or "I don't know".

I prefer 8-ball so kinda lame if we don’t get to play it, or only play 1-2 racks because 9-ball got chosen, but same, I take the break and let their fate decide! 😒 Yeah, you can’t leave the money ball hanging!! 2 points lol APA 9-ball is such a strange game 🥴 Thanks for the feedback man, cheers!! 👊🏼

That would be a fun format. I agree, I hate the closed break 🙄… I watch a lot of Ultimate Pool, and slop counts there for Chris Melling, so it makes me feel less dirty these days playing slop in 8-ball but 🤷🏻‍♂️ I know it’s kinda jank… This format is my favorite League play that I’ve come across, but your idea would be perfect 🤌🏼🤌🏼 Thanks for chiming in!! 🤙🏼👊🏼

First time in regionals?! 5 for 6?! Nice!! That is awesome dude! I’ve gotten 2nd place in regionals (we called it “Cities”) a few times and damn that hurts… next time! I said it on there man. 5-0 was NOT a good description of how our 8-ball match went 😮‍💨😮‍💨 Thanks man! I’ll be looking forward to my next match with him 👊🏼

Sorry, Master’s is team format. 3 play per match (like the screenshot I showed at the end), but you can have 4 on your team.

@@drewvonporte yeah I thought I wasn't going to perform well cause so many people and so many eyes on me but wasn't an issue at all. I doubt I could replicate that kind of success in Vegas though.

@@Darkslide2AR-FE man, that same concept happens in Vegas too though! 2’s and 3’s play lights out, 2 inning games, and all the 7’s choke, WATCH!! Happy for you to at least walk away from cities proud man 🤜🏼🤛🏼

I thought so! I am 99% sure I hit 7 first, but still. Hilarious that I had someone watch the shot and he decided to plead the fifth 😂😂 James dude 😂

Well welcome back to the game, Keith! I’m sure it feels like a long lost friend to be back to making 8-balls 👊🏼 Thanks for chiming in and welcome to the channel!

@@drewvonporte It iis weird because I was pretty good back in the day. I know alot of what I should do, but can't do it any more. Working on that.. LOL

@@keithnechetsky2067 oh Keith, that can be incredibly frustrating I bet!!!! Ol’ muscle memory should bring it back in time man 💪🏼🧠

I like that rule of thumb!!! Finally someone who agrees that the head ball break is solid 💪🏼💪🏼….. but hot damn does that 8-ball fly outta there with the 2nd ball break 😳 Thanks for your alliance!! 😅

I look at the 8 ball and the two balls next to it. If there is a gap, then I'll do a second ball break unless my opponent is on the hill. The last thing I need would be to make an 8OB and scratch to lose the match.

Idk, no one was that close and be a damn shame losing ball in hand to a table roll! I wasn’t gonna take it 🤷🏻‍♂️ Thanks man!!! Looking forward to it!!! 👊🏼👊🏼

Ryu I ❤️ You These are great points and THANK YOU for pointing out better safeties for my 9-ball game!!! I need to work on this before the big dance!!! Thanks man!!!! 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

Double hit without a doubt, but can't call that without a watcher, no one would ever own up to that, esp some dude trying to ride the 9 every other shot

​@@drewvonporteHow many times have I not made the best decisions during my own games😂😂😂? We are always smarter watching🤣 You'll do great in Vegas. 2 of the biggest surprises I experienced in Vegas last year was: 1. New tables have slick cloth, and English did NOT grab off the rail. That inside English that you played from the 2 to the 3 @29:00 may not work as well as you think. 2, New diamond tables were lightning fast.

Oh my worddddd they’e about to have a blast!!! Hopefully they’re learning quick! That’s a recipe for a DEEP RUN!! Let me know your team name!

Awesome man!!! Let’s go!!!

When will you be in Vegas? Drew

I KNOW! Can you believe it !? Check again at 21:56, he grazed the 13 on the way to the rail, he’s good! Thanks a lot man!!

​​​@@drewvonporte My vision must be worse than I thought, I completely missed that somehow! Regardless, you still got the game so all good there. Really good match too, he stepped it up pretty good on the 9 ball segment! I need get in some 9 ball sometime, I'm sure my skills are starting to lag there. I'm in a small area and most of my fellow players are the gambling type; 9 ball isn't a game they care much to play. The way your opponent was winning those games has a lot to do with that. On the plus side, most of them have wallets that are bigger than their skill set...and even that's not usually the case anymore when it's time to go home

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Oh yeah?? 8-ball? 9-ball? Masters??

@@drewvonporte 8-Ball

@@swellslots4540 nice! Are you new to the game and Leagues in general?? Hopefully there’s something useful (or at least entertaining!) here on my channel 🤙🏼

Amazon doesn’t deliver to the UK?! 🤯

@@drewvonporte Yeah it does. However the local sites don't have it and while the com does ship to EU shipping cost and customs add up. But lets' see, I may get it anyway.

I agree! Is that why the brits hold the cue ball so well in their 8-ball matches?!?!? WOOL?! 😂😂😂😂 (and the tiny cue ball) Yes, sorry, I’ve addressed my “tangent” vocabulary several times in the comments 🤦🏻‍♂️ it won’t happen again. I was egregiously misusing the term 😅

Iphone 🤌🏼

@@drewvonporte nice, the video quality is great!

@@adamgranatella thanks man! It’s been a work in progress 🫠 I’ve never done anything like this before 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@drewvonporte keep it up, everything looks good, great graphics, especially the position lines.

This is great feedback! Personally, I don’t feel like my mechanics are strong enough to teach that sort of stuff here… at least not yet! That being said, I’m seeing what you mean in my stroke and it’s something I’m going to look into 👀 I’m sure Alex and Mike’s stroke isn’t perfect yet either, as they are 4’s and still evolving their stroke each week, but that’s a good look! Regarding the pause, I was always taught the pause wasn’t always a requirement. Some players have a big pause (Neils, Melling), while some barely pause. I’ve personally gone back and forth with how much of a pause I use… Most of all, thanks for this valuable feedback !💎

@@drewvonporte I'd like to address something that you said, that you don't "always" have to have a pause. That advice is difinitively wrong. It is true that there are some shots that are so easy that you can have a poor stroke and still get away with it but if you want to get good your stroke should be the same for every single shot, it should be reflex and you should never never deviate from it. The pause, and I absolutely will guarantee this, will 100% improve your aim as well as your control of spin and weight. The length of the pause is not important, it could be a Tenth of a Second or a Second or Two. The point is to pause. I'll spare you the phsiological explanation but just practice it and you absolutly will notice a differance in your %success. If you're playing APA and coaching, remind your players to pause as part of your advice. I understand the idiotic nature of the handicap structure of APA and to some degree it is prudent to not advance too much but that said, every single player who wants to get good should make this habit an integral part of EVERY stroke. To cement this idea I will challenge you to find a video clip of any successful player, pool, snooker, 3-cushion billiards, whatever you like and see if you can find one player that is reasonably successful that doesn't pause on their stroke. All good players do it, Why do you suppose that is? It is because it works. With all due respect whomever told you that you don't 'always" have to do that is an idiot. As I said, your stroke should be the same every single time no matter what shot you are taking.

Ah the 314 man ❤️ That cue ALSO changed my life! I don’t seem to notice the ping and thunk, idk why, on my Revo 🤷🏻‍♂️ Maybe I’m used to it! Not familiar with Tiger??

That’s awesome! I’ll check it out!! Thanks for the feedback STICKROD!!! 👊🏼👊🏼

I used to feel like that about 9-ball, but I’ve kind of changed my perception of the game a little. Once you get past 5-ball in a run, the pressure is on, and you almost *have* to get out (or switch to a safety game). THAT is the game. So if someone fails at that, the loss should come! Almost as though: the game isn’t about running 9 balls, its about running the last 3 or 4. But- that’s just how I try to view it! The patters in 8-ball are more interesting to me.

I agree. If rail first for the 10 WAS an option, I feel like i may have taken it there, idk. Hard to say from this angle, and I wasn’t playing smart/good in the first few racks so I’m completely untrustworthy there ha! 😅😅

Haha Rob wasn’t playing that slow here, I was just really getting in my own head and making it worse. Like I said in the video, like, I’ll start to rush my own shot… like when you aggressively pass someone in the grocery store with your shopping cart…. And it totally starts intruding on focus and your normal play. It’s amateur stuff, stuff I need to overcome if I’m ever gonna get that challenge match against Fedor 😂

…. But also, no thanks 😂😂😂. Another thought about your situation: I sometimes will say, have some respect for your team! They want to shoot their match and be home before midnight! He better be playing last at least, so most of the team can go home first 😂😂😂

I can appreciate that!

It’s a lot of fun. The expansion is DEF harder, though the original pack is no slouch

Crazy talk!! 😂

It’s tough to play safe that far away, especially with her 1-ball hanging in the side!….. but I feel you! The shot was BAD juju from the jump! It wasn’t until I set it up myself and looked at how thin it was and how far it was that I was like “………!” Thanks for the sub! I’m curious, do you watch pool matches at all too? Or just in it for the interesting position situations?? I’ll be doing both but I’m trying to get a feel!

@@drewvonporte yeah it's a tough shot. I do watch pool matches too and I watch videos like this one because I'm interested in the game and I want to get better and learn more. Also I'm curious how others play certain shots

@@zanethind awesome! Welcome in 👊🏼

@@drewvonporte thanks

…. You’re not…. THE Zane… are you?!…

@@drewvonporte no lol I'm not the singer

I’d love to!! Thanks for this feedback!!

I can’t tell you how much I just wanted to delete this footage… I wasn’t sure how “entertaining” it is to see terrible pool 😂 but I don’t wanna just delete my losses! It’s only fair I show the bad nights too! …… I also waited like 2-3 weeks to do this one to let the wound heal 🤕 thanks for the feedback!

@@drewvonporte Glad you shared it with some humor in the end! The entertaining part comes from your commentary, which along with the full length gameplay is relaxing to watch. And concerning the education part if I want to watch 'perfect' pool there are enough top notch tournaments streams out there, for me actually seeing and having critical discussed also 'less optimal' gameplay get's me better understand the better choices.

That’s fair! It started getting pretty dicey after that 😳 Thanks for the input!!

They don’t call it “sharking” because of their pool skill! 😂😂 Haha that’s fine man, that’s why I asked your input! I think most of us in any organized league play expect a certain standard/respect… but not everyone does clearly! Thanks for your input!

I deserved the 7-ball mistake immediately after 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️. No he’s a really good shot, was a little taken aback by how we started… after that 8-ball rack I was like “Oh Sh**!” Thanks man! I’m very happy with the quality of this video and aiming to keep it at this level 💪🏼

This is great! I’m glad you’re finding something useful! I don’t use a TON of spin, but when I do (and it’s relevant) and I show it on the channel, I will typically mention it, and I like to use a BROWN line and a BROWN arrow showing which way the spin is affecting it off the rail. This is good conceptually why the spin is doing what it’s doing, if you ask me, and is more important than, say, EXACTLY how many “tips” left or right or whatever. You tell me what you think!! To see what I mean maybe a little clearer, I’d check out my latest video on Position Play, where I show that line. Sometimes I’ll show a cue ball, but personally I find it a little disorienting showing the cue ball strike point unless the camera is directly over the poolplayer’s shoulder. Thanks for joining and do keep up with feedback so I can offer anything I can here!! 🤙🏼🤙🏼

It is, yes! I addressed this in another comment, but maybe I should pin one at the top :/ For whatever reason, I've always just called the cue ball's path the "tangent line". I learned a lot later in my pool life that the tangent line is very specific and a fixed line. Since people are actually gonna watch this (lol 7k! I can't believe it!), I need to tighten things up. I don't want to confuse people... My apologies!!! Thank you for your feedback, and I absolutely welcome comments like this!

@@drewvonporte no worries! you're doing an amazing job! When you're editing the videos you could add the tangent line in a different color maybe? that way people who don't understand what it is can visually see it.

@@imanoobtuber awesome thanks !!! Personally, I don’t “like” the tangent line itself. I feel like it’s not common for the cue ball to take the path of the tangent line, as it usually requires stun or pounding at shots, idk. Sometimes I get worried I’ve gone a little too Bob Ross with all the colors and lines, so I’m hesitant to add another for posterity? Idk. BUT- I will address it when it’s important!! Thanks again for feedback! I’m still figuring out a lot 🤙🏼🤙🏼👊🏼

@@drewvonporte totally understand the first paragraph. for new players though they do need to understand it as when you add follow or draw you need a point of reference first. Lots of new players in my league have zero idea of what it is and become bewildered when their draw or force follow shots didn't get the cue ball where they wanted it to go. Then you explain the tangent line and voila, it starts to click for them.

I’m going to start thinking more about this and the tangent line. Really

I can appreciate that, being that you have no context on his behavior apart from this 😅... Thanks for chiming in !!

It comes and goes Lem! I don't have time to practice a ton, especially since I mess with making these videos with a lot of my spare time! Thanks a lot man, I do feel like I'm playing better than I ever have before though, albeit not Fargo 700 like some of my subscribers :(

I had a match last night (it is on tape ! Coming eventually!), where I was down like a mofo, and had to find a way back and mentally bring it together (several beers in 😅)... This game is insanely mental. Which is why "pool hustling" is such a thing! They play the mental game way more than the pool game.....

LMAO I just went back to listen 🤦🏻‍♂️.... jfc....

Exactly.

It is, yes! I addressed this in another comment, but maybe I should pin one at the top :/ For whatever reason, I've always just called the cue ball's path the "tangent line". I learned a lot later in my pool life that the tangent line is very specific and a fixed line. Since people are actually gonna watch this (lol 7k! I can't believe it!), I need to tighten things up, because that's just sloppy. I don't want to confuse people... My apologies!!! Thank you for this feedback, it's important, and I absolutely welcome comments like this!

I always tell my players to get really good at potting before you start to really unwind position play. From experience, I can assure you this game becomes INCREDIBLY frustrating when you know what you need to do, but you just miss more than you want to..... but yes! Let's get creative!! Thanks for coming in ! I've got some cool stuff coming 💪🏼👊🏼