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No problemo!

Thank you, the recording is from Jane Coop: czcams.com/video/EucEx7hYV3U/video.htmlsi=BOhxVOut4Wl-jrRk

Well I think definitely is not a good word to use for this composition here ;)

That's so cool! I can relate, such a gem... Thank you for the kind words

3-D intelligence is a perfect descriptor for Brahms!

Thank you!

You nailed it!

My pleasure!

Looks hard 😁

Hahaha good one!

Have you listened enough Brahms music? Because you cant simply say something like that about a composer as great as Brahms just because you don't like him, this coming from a person who is not exactly a big fan of Brahms, but I cannot deny his genius.

@@cebolla4680 you cannot deny his genius because you don't think for yourself and just listen to the words of others and agree with them by default. Brahms is a genius in the eyes of the modern artist, in the eyes of a cultist, in the eyes of someone so ridiculously ignorant to music, that they refuse to accept the fact that music in fact can be poorly composed. Brahms's only contribution to music is making the standards for success ever lower. His pieces are completely incoherent garbage. He writes like an amateur, though maybe not like an amateur of the modern day, who are somehow worse than him. The only thing upholding brahms's genius is a century of dogma. Any competent musician can see past his showmanship and vanity. His pieces have no form, his pieces are filled with contrapunctal errors, his pieces are not music. Just random, occasionally musical noise.

@lolbruh1170 First of all, its so ridiculous to insult anyone when discussing about a composer in a CZcams video. And then, no, I think that because, unlike you, I have spent time listening and analyzing his music. His first symphony isn't called "Beethoven's 10th" by nothing. Go and listen his 2nd piano concerto, his clarinet sonatas, his intermezzos (for example op76 no4, or op117 no 2). Its undeniable that he was a master of orchestration, and was able to compose music of huge complexity.

@@cebolla4680 I know his first symphony isn't called "Beethoven's 10th" for nothing. Because it's also completely incompetently composed, just like Beethoven's symphonies. Maybe go listen to some mozart quartet or scriabin's 5th symphony. I know full well of Brahms's "music"(noise). He cannot compose for the life of him. Honestly, the "beethoven's 10th" probably isn't very accurate considering that brahms somehow is so many leaps and bounds worse than that guy. Anyways, instead of receiving your opinion of whether or not brahms is a good composer from someone equally incompetent like Schönberg, use your own ears, be repulsed, and form your own negative opinion of him. The "complexity" in his "music" is literally just adding excessice voices in his counterpoint and excessively thickening every chord to make it as incoherent as possible. His form is completely incoherent, he has only once or twice even composed a semi coherent phrase, letalone a piece of music. He is complete trash.

what u think of my music

Thank you very much for the kind words, also congratulations on your acceptance to the conservatory!

@@TimondeNood thanks!

Love when the counterpoint enthusiast is awful and completely ignorant at counterpoint

Oh yes, good that you spotted it, I even did it wrong on the score example afterwards! Also, thank you for the kind words!

@@TimondeNoodThat’s when I spotted the small mistake; when the score example was played I immediately thought ‘this doesn’t sound like a dominant seven chord, something’s wrong’. Still an amazing video of course, I’m subscribing!

Thank you, yes I didn't notice it even while editing... probably I had already too much on my mind and wasn't paying close attention anymore while rechecking the complete video! Thank you for the sub, more content and compositions soon!

Hi Pedro, Op.118 no 2 is really one of my big favourites. However, this guy already did quite a good analysis, go check it: czcams.com/video/u0JL85m-r8w/video.html Regarding the others op 118 no 3 and op 117 no 2, I think we have a similar taste cause these pieces are always in the back of my head :D. So some day probably they will be featured on this channel. For the moment being, I have 4 analysis videos and a lot of compositions to finish, so you won't see them upcoming months. Thank you for the kinds words!

Wonderful!

What? I use the capitals because I don't distinguish between major and minor tonalities in my analysis...

@@TimondeNood starts piece "Amin: . . . "

I meant in the roman numerals ofc, the minor or major character is indeed indicated by those boxes or when the harmony modulates.

Hi Yingjie Su! So this is the opening sonatina from the cantata. The G minor theme actually is more or less present in another part of the full cantata: czcams.com/video/snqxsCFY48U/video.html If you go to this performance at 8:05 we hear the motive, with similar rhythm, C - D-flat - B-flat - E - E - F. If you transpose this a whole step up, you get D - E-flat - C - F# - F# - G, this is almost the same ;)

@@TimondeNood thank you so much! You know this piece so well, the analysis was very helpful!

Thank you, I try to do the best I can :)

This is only an interpretation and a bit an entertaining one as you might have noticed. As you can see in the subsequent (full) analysis video, I actually say that I prefer to call it the Devil's theme, there is no absolute reason for this, just personal taste. Also the tritone (devils interval) is quite important in this piece, that's why perhaps people started to call it a Diabolic suggestion. Also an analysis is always subjective, so I get that you have problems with it, I have too ;)

Indeed, but @laurentboukobzapianiste‬ delivered well!

@@TimondeNood Agree, great performance.

Thank you, I do this in some of my recent videos, for example: czcams.com/video/6xRFCqGYCLw/video.htmlsi=dP1TCOMhcodSCOmR Thanks for pointing out!

This would double the length of the video. It’s not clear that would make it more accessible.

It's not a necessity to replay every single fragment. I'm now editing a new video about one of Ravel's works and it's just way better to replay some fragments for the listener.

Rondo and ternary form can be close together depending on how the rondo sections are arranged. Here is why most people would call this a rondo: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._11_(Mozart)

To how much of his music have you listened? I cannot say I like everything he wrote, but some pieces are truly amazing and I think a lot of people who listen to classical would agree. Sometimes you must be willing to listen without expectations or prejudices.

Is it?

@@TimondeNood It sounds thst.

Just a quick suggestion. Add chapters to your videos. It helps if I want to rewatch a part

@@itspedroteixeira Thank you very much for the kind words and the tip on the Chapters, I've now added them ;)

I noticed this upon editing part two of the analysis and mention it there ;)

Nothing I think, just arbitrary counting. I wanted to show how omnipresent the theme is.

@@TimondeNood Children of the beast, embrace To scorn and hate the human race Consume the light that hugs the earth And aid the womb in giving birth To a group that will appear And guide you through this final year The dark armies then will come When the Sum is 41...

Have you listened to the whole analysis? Prokofiev does not think in terms of classical chords in this work. It would be pointless to force the course of the composition in a functional harmony scheme

@@TimondeNoodit’s not even that dissonant. Every note group he is using is a modal subset of a common scale close to the diatonic. A tonal map, however that fits in European classical training, would be very useful to anyone who knows chords.

I disagree. Eventhough you clearly have the chord subsets, the progressions do not follow conventional classical patterns. I see no point in naming each chord here, it just makes the analysis cluttered and moreover it distracts the student from the actual important underlying ideas

And that's OK I think, it is kind of meant to be so, no? And ofcourse, everybody can have their own musical preferences. I get that a lot of people won't like this, but I truly adore it. Also, music and art in general does not always need to portay elegance and beauty.

You think so? I thought that The Engulfed Cathedral was more well known?

Prokofiev was two in one btw… both chess player and classical composer 😆

Morphologically yes, functionally no. American and european analysis label this chord differently. Take a look at this video: czcams.com/users/shortsdz8RxGKzxQk?si=nzX0wqJ1lubTfkmL

@@TimondeNood thanks, yes that makes sense. I watched a similar video on music theory but it was on an American channel

Glad it helped!

No it's really not that 😅

Simple and beautiful ;)

Indeed, similar contours in the opening bars

Yeah. But Medtner has of course more original harmonies and the structure is kinda more complex, well because Medtner was using more the philosophy - More is more.

Lol, I hope you don't believe that yourself. Perhaps you should think twice before passing judgment based on one composition by Sibelius. IMO the framework of a composition determines whether you should use a lot or little material. So no, more is not necessarily more.

It's actually me playing ! (not even kidding)...I also do analysis of different pieces (including the 32 Beethoven Piano Sonatas one movement at a time). Please feel free to check out my CZcams channel. Thank you very much for your comment. glad you enjoyed my performance.

Me too !!

Here it is: czcams.com/video/6xRFCqGYCLw/video.htmlsi=6__Wnx5nRWFTsv2y

As you will see in the analysis, this will be of little use. This work is at the limits of "classical" tonality.

Thank you very much Timon.. I love how you draw during my performance. Super well done video... Can't wait for the analysis.

@@laurentboukobzapianiste Only see your comment now Laurent. I thought this would help the listener to visually understand the central idea of the Devil's theme, I'll upload the full analysis tomorrow!

@@TimondeNood No problem at all. I am glad your video received so many views in such a short time ! That's insanely great...I am so happy... Thank you.. May I as you for a small request though : At the beginning of the video you wrote PF: Laurent Boukobza, which now I understand means Piano Forte... but it's usually easier for people to read Laurent Boukobza, Pianist, or Piano. : Laurent Boukobza. Do you think you may be able to change this ? I realized by the comment that for someone it was not obvious as they actually asked. Thank you Timon.. Can't wait for the analysis ! Thank you again for asking me (are you going to share your royalties of this videos with me ? (LOL!)...?

Actually pf means performance, I cannot change it anymore in the next upload because it is already sceduled with an automatic upload. But don't worry, in the upcoming video I am explaining and referring to your performance so people will definitively know. Also I don't earn any royalties with this video's as I am not a youtube partner! 😁

You're welcome Peter!

Yeah, that's something you need to practise without pedal first!

Well it depends ofc 😅

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